INDIGO PARK Leaves Much to be Desired
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Indigo Park is the newest Mascot Horror sensation! After mostly being blessed with creations from the Euphoric Brothers, and Poppy/Banban clones in the last year, a new face comes onto the block to potentially shake things up a bit. With the perception being unanimously positive so far, Indigo Park in on track to being the latest indie horror hit! But, I still don't think it's without its faults, and in a lot of aspects, I believe this game to be a little underwhelming. So, is Indigo Park deserving of its praise? Well, lets open the gates, and find out.
#indigopark - Ігри
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Also, I would appreciate if you all watch the video first before commenting. You may find I actually agree with you more than you may think at first glance! This isn't meant to be a solely negative video, and is meant to offer criticism that comes from a genuine love and drive to see where this will go in the future. Just keep an open mind while watching, the thumbnail and title aren't a full representation of my conclusive thoughts!
Daggz you a nerd like theft king
It’s sad to think that people shoot down any criticism in any media just because of a few rotten eggs.
*cough* Theft King *cough*
But you actually had valid points that glossed over me when I played the game the first time.
I think for UniqueGeese’s first project that’s not garden of banban.
He knocked it out of the park and then some. Watching his videos on his own game he clearly not only loves this game but also the huge community that he’s already built with just one chapter.
At least you actually make good points, unlike Theft King.
@@Black072-do6qz and you just proved his point
You can turn off the flashlight, by the way
I actually do like Indigo Park because the guy who made it was very genuine. Not making a merch button or having too much of a “gimmick” for the game.
Edit: I trust your criticism of this game over TheftKing.
Omg i TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THEFTKING
Theftking makes ign look trust worthy.
I’m honestly not really sure if I like theftking much anymore. I liked when he made good videos calling out mobgames’s worst decisions, but now he’s just playing and going through the same game he rightfully criticized every fault in? Idk how or why he switched sides so soon
How is theft king even alive still, everytime i hear about him is cause of a controversy
"Omg they are copying poppy playtime"
- someone who is using a recolor of a poppy playtime asset as their (v tuber?) Model
Why is everyone dogging on this guy because he's critiquing a game with a good developer? Sometimes criticism can help to improve a product, and someone being nice doesn't mean they can'y make flawed things.
I will give these people the benefit of the doubt, we live in a day and age where every other UA-camr is making a "this is the worst thing ever" videos on something. Everything now adays has to be an extreme on one end or the other.
given that they're all here before it being physically possible to complete the video. something tells me they didn't watch it
The dev said he wants to hear everyone's criticism on this and he does admit he would need to redo a lot of areas of the first chapter but wants to wait for any further developments to happen when he gets the fundraising to end and pay the taxes it
Ik this is a very hot take, but yeah, I was expecting this to be…
🤢🤢🤢
Like theft king’s one
It really shouldn't be a problem considering the fact the game that started the whole mascot horror genre is because of criticisms from an older game, like this whole genre exist because of criticism
I'm pretty sure that the dev has said that chapter 1 is the best time and place to criticize the game, I feel that that you were pretty fair with your criticisms. I believe that he genuinely wants this game to be the best that it can be and constructive criticisms like yours can help him achieve this.
Yea isn’t that why mason did a chapter system so that they know where to improve in the chapters?
Yes!! This!!
Yes. He has said that chapter 1 is more of an example of what they can and wish to do. He reads, sees, and watches as much content about his game as he can, positive or not, so that he can improve the best he can.
I also think he said in the future chapter 1 will be remade in some aspects especially the Mollie chase scene
.....and then there's theft king
Daggz: Uses genuine criticism to explain his point and still has love for the project.
Theft King: is not oRiGnAl so it’s BaD
Edit: Wow I started a storm
So true
People still watch Theft King..?
I watched his video since it was the only one that criticised the game which I was looking for since I agree with the criticisms despite it being amazing, and this is after unfollowing theft for his crap, I still hate him but it's unfair to say he never gave constructive criticism when he went through what could be changed and improved or pointing out flaws or missed stuff and then saying he did like it still
Some people: OmG! HaTeR!!
Daggz: has actual Valid points
I hate theft king
Gotta love when people see just the thumbnail and assume it's purely negative.
All games need criticism. Positive or negative.
I agree, I like this game. I hope it grows into something actually good.
Plus didn't the dev say that he wanted feedback? Including criticism to make the game better?
imo theft king poisoned the well a bit (kinda being unfair in his vid then a bit of an annoyance on twitter)
I'm with you. It's got a ton of potential, and I hope UniqueGeese uses that for improvement on future chapters.
i was concerned but then I remember he isnt a Shitty reviewer
Something to note about the player's hand animations, they were done by UniqueGeese himself, and he plans to have them redone for chapter one and future chapters
Thats good! Shows that he's willing to grow and improve as he gets better! After all BATIM's models gradually got better as updates released too
@@gummywormee41 That is also something he's acknowledged, that he plans on going back and refreshing older chapters as new ones release
it's pretty good to hear, a thing i didn't like about the hand animations and the action animations have the camera still (besides the part with Llyod) and that makes the character look like a robot and not a human, i hope he and his 3D animator fix this problem with all the others that daggz pointed out.
17:49
Does that mean the oldest version of rambley is public domain in this universe?
Well the registered trademark of the name "Rambley's Wranglers" have canonically expired yesterday...so...
SHITTY RAMBLEY HORROR MOVIE! LESGO!
omg a video that doesn't absolutely glaze the game but also wants to give constructive criticism instead of tearing it down‼️‼️
The last part goes to theft King that for some reason his opinion is brain cells lose
COUGHCOUGHTHEFTKING
Is "glaze" a positive or negative term? I dont know if ive seen it used in a context like this so i assume it means something other than to coat in frosting?
@@jc_art_it means brainlessly praising something from what I can tell from how most people use the term
hmmm reminds me of another certain creator hmmm
The gameplay really doesn’t do this project justice. I really hope they take the criticisms and improve the game for the next chapter. Because I genuinely adore the charm of Rambley and the dev’s passion. I’m glad to see it get positive reviews, but I want to see the team do better for the game in the future.
Sure Indigo Park does leave a lot to be desired, but Rambley exists so its an instant 10/10
oh my god. i just realized. rambley is roxanne wolf for gay people _(as in like dude gay as in gay for dudes, curse the ambiguity of the english language)_
I hope this game gets better, but this is good for a first game by the creator🙏🏾
@@novameowww dude Roxane is Roxane for gay people
@@Purpleking415 you know what i meant
@@novameowww I dont
Ngl with enough time, indigo park has the potential to be the best or at least one of the best mascot horror games out there. The creator is actively listening to criticism and is probably going to improve as a result. Watching this game grow is going to be the best experience ever and I’m so down with it
Indeed. I can't wait to see what the creator will come up with next.
Also, why did you block me on Twitter?
I think it’s because you support urbanspooks in some way, which i personally not only dislike the creator but also it’s fans since pretty all of them are just downright bad people from experience. But really it’s nothing personal at all and i don’t really hate you at all, i just don’t want people that support him to interact with me. That’s all
@@jamiel6198
Well, you could've just muted me rather than outright blocking me because I'm a fan of someone who isn't as popular in the analog horror community as other creators.
Blocking me for something as minor as QRTing Chezzkids because I called out the fact that several people used to call Urbanspook a pedophile despite having no actual proof seems rather immature.
While I like The Painter because of its concept, I'm not blind to his flaws and criticisms that others have of him.
I just think that he gets way too much shit thrown his way, and that doesn't sit right with me, honestly.
@@SwaggyG_2102i didn’t really block you because of that, i just blocked you because you are a urban supporter in some way since i seen you reply to urban’s tweets beforr. That’s it, didn’t even know you did say that, and tbh it’s not really a big deal. I did unblock you tho, since you not like a super annoying urban fan that i pretty much seen from anyone else soo yeah.
The fact that the creator is not only open to the community, but also actively looking to improve with said communities critisms, gives it a much better chance of being amazing than any of the other mascot horrors, as everyone else is so focused on preserving their lore and sense of 'mystery', that they do not ever reach out or open up to the community, leading to very little growth, and most of the growth is not where it matters. Listening to feedback, and actually taking criticism and advice is really really important in the game making process, and is one of the big reasons people originally released games in several parts, or in earlier development stages, but rarely do the creators actually take advantage of the feedback, instead just sticking to their idea and dont let the community that loves their work, help.
2024 seems to be the turning point for mascot horror in general. It's as if someone flipped the switch and made mascot horror games slightly more enjoyable.
People are working out the kinks that make a game bad
Now people know what is not liked and wanted
Like, look at Ban-Ban 7 fixing some previous issues
I Really hope those Content Farmers cease to exist
Now THIS is how you give constructive critisism whilst reviewing a free indie game demo
8:46 - Holding a flashlight like that is actually pretty common for those who have police/military training since it informs other people that what they're holding isn't a gun. It also makes it easier to explore things with some advantages:
Control: Holding a flashlight with an overhand grip provides better control over the light's direction and movement. This grip allows easy adjustments of the angle and position of the flashlight as needed.
Tactical Advantage: The overhand grip allows quick transition from using the flashlight to other tools or weapons if necessary. It provides a more natural and fluid motion for switching between different tools in high-stress situations.
Safety: Holding the flashlight with an overhand grip can help prevent accidental drops or loss of the light source. The grip offers a more secure hold on the flashlight, reducing the risk of it slipping from the hand.
Comfort: The overhand grip is often more comfortable for extended periods of flashlight use. It can reduce strain on the wrist and forearm compared to other grips, making it easier for officers to hold the flashlight for long periods
Yo, aren't you that loser weeb that defends and supports bigots and transphobes?
Came down to comment the same!
people really need to understand that not all criticism is bad
Certainly but sometimes it comes off as bad even though it’s there for the product to get better.
The Sonic fanatics certainly didn't learn that. I don't want the same for this game, All criticism should be taken well
@@derple8524 one can hope
I'm seeing more people talking about the people complaining that actual complaints shut up and talk about the damn video
@@danielbarnes1241 how when half the comments i've seen are complaints stfu
There's certainly a sect of people only there for the nicely-animated raccoon, lol.
One of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us, one of us.
Yeah I'll admit, I came for the raccoon boi, stayed for the urban exploration vibes... and the raccoon boi.
so me
ME LOL!!!!!
Literally all of us
i didn't even know this game was mascot horror. i didn't even know it was a game. one day everyone started drawing raccoon ass and i was like "okay so that's this week's sexyman"
edit: please stop being pieces of garbage in this comments thread, you lot. be nice.
Right there with you
I didn’t even know it was its _own_ game, at first I thought it was just some new Poppy Playtime chapter thing because it’s so generic mascot horror that I couldn’t be bothered to care.
w h a t did I just read
THEYRE DRAWING RAMBLY RECTUM???? 😮😢
@@gummywormee41Yes, and us furries have been for quite a bit at this point.
32:15 UniqueGeese was asked on why the blood and he said it was there to say that these are not regular animatronics
Spring lock suits type moment
@@lucastheunfunnyguy Genetically engineered Mascots, more like
@@skelebrowhovian6817 that to
a fair point, after all a similar thing happened in poppy playtime and i think its good to let people know early "no this isn't gonna be a fucking fnaf thing"
I'mjsut curious what the fuck these things ARE. they aren't merely normal mascots, especially since thre less cartoony and more like actual animals. As well as why they're at the park and what hapapend with them to fuck up the park.
@@sarafontanini7051 I'm guessing some sciencey experiment,.salem something something evil
The rocks falling isn't nitpicking whatsoever. I absolutely love this chapter and the state of the game so far, however the map changing with a fade transition and a single mp3 to indicate the rocks falling behind you was insanely jarring in my blind playthrough. I seriously looked around wondering what had just happened.
Mason has literally said he wants to hear critiques like this. As someone who really loved this game, I appreciate the way you approached this, and I think it will honestly be really helpful to the Indigo Park team.
14:41 The fact that the Indigo Park statue being a reference to an icon in Disney park being stationed in front of bathrooms was totally hilarious.
Yes! We need better public bathrooms lmao!
Side note: Now that you mention it, it is pretty odd for a statue to be stationed in front of bathrooms instead of the best attraction.
Molly actually appears directly behind you during the train sequence, like close enough you could touch her, for like a solid 10 seconds, but since you’re looking forward the whole time you never notice
I wasn't that guy, and went into it knowing that there was gonna be spooky, and was paranoid. I looked all around me during the train ride and nearly pissed myself when I saw her right behind a wall like arms reach from me.
I think the lack of detail is something that will be fixed with the kickstarter and such, once they get funding they will be able to hire more artists to work on assets to fill the locales out more. The lack of gameplay is a more pressing criticism though since they could've had that in Chap 1. I hope they avoid adding the obligatory 'mascot horror gimmick' but the puzzles should be more involved yeah.
I appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts on this game, despite some being very harsh, I like seeing people give constructive feedback to see this proof of concept (at least that’s what I see chapter one as) to grow further from the support it’s been given. It’s inspiring to see that anyone can really follow their dreams, it just takes hard work, passion, and support. Uh, ye:] idk lmao
I haven't watched the video yet but I do agree that Indigo Park leaves much to be desired. With that said, it's very clear that the creator put a lot of love and passion into the game and I'm sure that with time it'll be something really great. Even if I wasn't a big fan of chapter 1, I'm looking forward to what's next.
Yapper
@@Black072-do6qz Thanks for your input Black072-do6qz. Real insightful.
Yea it’s def meant to be a first romp! And the addition of rambley and the clear love of parks like Disney def makes it feel unique! I can’t wait to see how they can improve later!
I was about to make just about this exact comment because it perfectly sums it up. There is clearly an effort here, so I really hope it doesn't sputter out.
This is a very fair critique of the game. I actually find the world building in the game really good, but I agree, it is let down by some questionable design choices. Given UniqueGeese is still new to game development though, I'm fairly confident that the next chapter will be a lot better (not that that invalidates your criticism)
I'd argue that it's still scary if the animatronics are more humanised and able to talk, it's really immersive and fresh. The idea of a friendly and caring animatronic suddenly turning aggressive towards the protagonist is tragic and disturbing.
Characters like Glamrock Freddy, Eclipse and Roxy are popular for a reason.
plus having an actual character is way more interesting than jsut BAH SCARY MONSTER
its why I was so impressed by Mommy Longlegs in Poppy Playtime
@@sarafontanini7051 The sentient gum had a personality? I'm not sure how I missed that when I played
I really love this video! It’s respectful and gives criticism in hopes of seeing it grow and live up to its potential: something UniqueGeese himself has said he wants!
I have to say that I really agree with a lot of points as well now that I’m fully thinking of them again. With this chapter being funded out of pocket, I hope the overwhelming support of the kickstarter allows for the environment to be more fleshed out as well and have more engaging tasks.
Great video! This is definitely the type of videos that made me sub to you in the first place :)
I hate how much I want to love the game, but there are just way too many unresolved issues
I honestly want the same for the game, I haven't even realized how bland most of the areas looked. Hoped those get improved the way a theme park should
I mean yeah, but first it's the guy's first game, and the voice actors are A tier, and it's just a passion project that's completely free at some point you have to go "damn that was pretty great for a FREE, first time project, with effort, heart, and passion put into it." (did i mention free yet?)
@@otakusenpai9977no hate but u can still not enjoy the chapter for its unresolved issues despite it being free and a first time project
@@mr_me0wme0w yeah but you know the term “you get what you pay for?”
@@otakusenpai9977 wtf does have to do with liking smth?
I think it's great the game is getting it's share of praise and criticism for what it does right and wrong, especially in terms of gameplay. Since it does leave a lot to be desired. Which it being an introduction shouldn't excuse the gameplay, since it should help draw a player in.
i’m glad to see people are finally getting around to giving ACTUAL criticism to this game now. the people going “b-but rambley!” everytime someone says something negative or even neutral has seriously been getting on my nerves lol. i tried giving this game a play myself since it was free before i decided to form a concrete opinion on it and i agree with you, the game is a bit lackluster outside of its (to be honest) spectacular mascot. i understand *why* the game may be lacking in most of its departments, but that doesn’t mean it’s immune to criticism either. i care because i know the game can be better and that it’s not “””just bad”””
facts
B-but rambly
They should try doing a “Bethesda” and and little random shit to do all over the map. Aka follow the rule of “thow shall get distracted by random shit on every adventure/outing”
I am so glad we got our one (and only) Shipwrecked 64 mention on the Daggz youtube channel 👍
My greatest critique Is probable the lack of personality in the other characters mainly since they were very hyped up as characters, like Lloyd doesnt even looks like himself
I do believe that's part of the plot. Clearly something is up with these....uh... I'm not sure what they are but it's clearly something shady.
@@FubukiTheIcyKing yeah but I still feal that they could have had some personality plus It felt weird when rambley had 0 reaction to beheading his Best friend
@@carlosmorenoseguel7726 I hope that they're expanded on in later games/chapters - the AI and biological variants seem set apart from each other. Their designs, too are INCREDIBLY well done and look like something you'd actually find in an amusement park artstyle.
I actually really enjoyed this game. The first chapter of this game is mainly to set up the world and lore of the game and to tease more to come and discover. I can’t wait to see what else Indigo Park has to offer.
Indigo Park is, like Poppy playtime, a game that shows a lot of promise.
Rambley the raccoon is undoubtedly the game's saving grace. He has a lot of personality and charisma. I feel like if it weren't for him, the game would be pretty… Meh. That is, neutral, neither good nor bad.
From there on out, Indigo Park has potential.
THIS.
Daggz really brought out the guns at Theft King 💀💀💀
I no longer feel crazy for having mized feelings on this game
Don't, if you passionate about a project, but have some views about that's not so positive. You don't hate, it's something you want to see the project improve on. Both positive and negative energy can co-exist. And as for Thief King. I know people are dogpiling him for his take on the game, but after watching the video twice people are just hating. He does make some valid points about the game and a lot hate him just from a consiversy from a year ago smh. everyone hating didn't watch the video since he already states he liked it and thinks it can be improved with some technical upgrades, better prop designs, and more engaging gameplay. If you have opinions about this game express them so the developer can see and improve.
Mollie got really nice furry art treatment
I’m glad to have found this video, it feels like a breath of fresh air almost. I can appreciate the admiration and support fans have for upcoming game designs, because it truly is wonderful seeing indie projects thrive. However it bothers me how quickly fans latch onto mascot horror characters and treat the game as perfect. Truth is there’s no such thing as a perfect game, especially this early on in development. So it’s nice having a video that points out both the strengths and weaknesses of the game without rose tinted lenses or bias. I agree that the way Rambley was introduced as a 2D animation is stellar and the absolute strength of this games marketing, also a well needed spin on this oversaturated game genre. Mascot horror has lost favor in my eyes for a while, but the amount of dedication that is being placed into this game gives me some level of hope. I just hope that the creators take into account that they need to find ways to stand on their own without relying solely on previous successful mascot horror tropes, and will take supportive criticism into consideration rather then overlooking flaws
This right here, I agree whole heartily about your comment and wish this game didn't get so much attention that criticism isn't allowed. But if I learned anything from being a Sonic fan is to change things "We have to become the change we want to see" and I'll stand by that sediment with this game. As a theme park themed game it has potential with fun gameplay opportunities
It’s a new game and it has a lot of potential. Y’all can’t expect a lot from a new game, especially from someone who doesn’t have that much experience in game developing. They made the remake of banban and it was much better than the original, but it wasn’t very optimized but that’s to be expected from a game that someone only made in a week.
FACTS
how are you supposed to get better if no one gives feedback on how to get better?
he isnbt shaming the game, he is giving points on what can be improved
@@_doglo No one said this comment was about the video.
@@okami7837 mb brain wasnt braining when reading the comment.
i thought it was one of those ;video bad cuz insult new game wrong; comments, its actually a pretty valid point.
The thing about it for me is how much geese was hyping this game up from the beginning. "The new face of horror" my booty cheeks.
Crow Country is a pretty good example of a horror game set in a theme park. The way it implemented the puzzles into its world is something that Indigo park could take notes on.
It's not the best. But there's a lot of love in it and it makes me happy.
And the dev is great cus he’s taking the criticism the game is getting to heart so that he can do what he can to make it better, there are quite a few people who can’t handle even friendly criticism and just automatically think their project is being insulted, like the creator of Yandere Simulator, he is exactly how I just described those kinds of people and worse.
13:43 Funny thing, Geese was already looking into doing that, he literally played the same game you used the footage for as an example of a game he could use as inspiration (RE 7) on stream lmao
you know what I want more of in mascot horror spcifically? encounters with the antagonists that don't jsut end quicly and with the antagonist dying at the end. Like I want us to have more than one real encounter, for the antagonist to do more than jsut chase us once and die.
(also we need more horror games with combat and not jsut running and hiding)
"pancreases" or "pancreata". enjoy!
(pancreas doesnt even end in -us.... it wouldnt have an -i plural.........)
Unlike most of the comments section I actually watched the vid, there are some genuine constructive criticisms here... but I think a lot of the issues are more due to how small this first romp into the genre is, and how inexperienced the dev is. I think there is a ton of potential with indigo park, it feels less like mascot horror and a lot more closer to portal... the credits music doesn't help with that either I guess
In a way yeah, could classify this as a portallike game
I appreciate the fact you're not dickriding your youtube friend and instead decided to actually critique the game as it should be
There is a 99% chance this video makes the second chapter better cause the dev is so genuine and cool
Yeah, I agree. As somebody who's been a fan of UniqueGeese for a while before the game dev stuff, he's super genuine and clearly likes what he does. I do really
hope that criticism like this makes the game better, because I personally thought it was already pretty great.
Good criticism. Let’s hope they improve. I honestly love this game, but definitely has some issues like lack of puzzles and can be glitchy.
Tbh i do agree that the gameplay and even the monster designs/animations (didn’t finish yet) leave much to be desired, but you can def see the passion and love in this game. I think the chapter system would help mason take all the constructive criticism needed to know where to improve the game in the future, esp since it’s his first really big project!
Considering that’s it’s free and has zero adds popping up every second. I rate this game overwhelming.
I’d like to think the blood and gore is there specifically so LankyBox sees it
lloyd gives me the scared lion vibes from the wizard of oz
Tbh indigo park kinda reminds me of bendy and or poppy’s first chapter. It’s simplistic but has a lot of potential
(Also your criticism is valid, constructive critics helps devs a lot especially early ones)
As someone who makes artistic works, I can say in confidence that criticism is necessary to grow. It is not rude to give feedback on someone's project. I like Indigo Park, but it does have problems that I want it to improve on, but it can't improve if we don't critique it.
Having the main character be an urban explorer is a great idea.
Indigo park should do a thing Batim did when theres a new chapter also update the old chapter to make what came before become better.
Nothing could prepare to see Garn47 in this video, oh my god actual jumpscare man LMAO
If there's any criticism that I agree with, it's the notion that this game's a pretty cookie cutter Mascot Horror.
Abandoned place, **the gimmick** to this game, the unnatural feeling that there's a lot more wrong to the place, a crescendo chase sequence, the gameplay being mostly walking with roadblock puzzles.
I guess really the only thing I can say for the future is, don't be afraid to surprise me/us? Or as they always say, "subvert expectations". I get that's not really as helpful but idk...
I do wanna say too btw, I think the addition of Rambly makes this so much better regardless of how many tropes it reuses. The addition of a very talkative character is very welcomed and I think they're a really endearing character to have tag along.
i agree with a lot of this! another criticism i have is that the mascots seem kind of lackluster. we don’t know much about what they are, but they’re not particularly scary to me as it stands. especially Finley-the posters make him seem HUGE and i think a giant mascot like that in water would be extra terrifying.
i am super excited to see where this game goes tho! the story is very intriguing and i can’t wait for chapter 2 (or the revamp of chapter 1, whatever UniqueGeese decides!)
This deserves a like.
I'm sure the people roasting you for giving constructive criticism of the game, are the same people that want to see chapter 2 become more polished.
Ever since the game's release, the support and funding for the next body of work has been exponential.
If UniqueGeese didn't have the fundings to avoid the problems in chapter 1, he sure as hell does now!
There's genuine love being put into this game, and I wanna see it, and Rambley more in the future!
For a free project, I actually got into it WAY more than I did. Especially after dealing with crap like Garten of Banban...
I would say the issue is less the character animation, but rather how sluggish the player camera feels. It reminds me a lot of how walking around as Glamrock Freddy felt. It's fine there as you're not interacting with anything, just walking and looking around, but when you're interacting with stuff, I'd much rather a 1 to 1 camera movement. No matter what I adjusted sensitivity wise, I could never get the camera feeling just right and it always felt either just a little too sensitive, or not sensitive enough. So yeah, that definitely needs work
The main thing that annoys me about this game is the fact that the designs are so good. I understand the logic behind it: If the premise is supposed to be "ooooooh this innocuous children's property is actually 2 spooky 4 me!!1!" then the normal designs for the characters make sense, they fit as children's mascots far better than something like Ban-Ban.
Part of it is the physical versions of the characters that are encountered in game are straight out of one of those stupid Disney parody horror movies. It also reminds me of "WE CAN'T JUST KILL THAT THING, IT'S A BEAST VERSION OF OUR MASCOT"
I understand "the whole premise and subgenre of the game sucks" is in no way a usable criticism, but I feel like it is necessary to bring up. The internet has had a weird obsession over the years with "children's media but scary", Mascot horror only being one part of it. In the few instances where it does really work, like with Angel Hare, I feel like it mostly works because of its subtlety. It's not trying to be a flashy monster movie like Indigo Park is trying to be. Heck, the Abandoned By Disney series of stories, probably a direct inspiration on this game, manages to nail the concept better even with the monsters running around because the underlying concept behind it is interesting.
I’m used to seeing very synical reviews of games, but this video was not that. It was a genuine critique that was offering ideas that would improve the final product. I appreciate that you show your care for the well being of this game.
I think the main thing that makes this game not really scary are the killer mascots, Lloyd and Mollie just have such slow and janky animations that when they try to scare you, it just ends up looking a bit weird, especially the run cycle that Mollie has, along with her flying animation she does right before she gets decapitated by the door, I absolutely love this game and the idea of having an AI companion, but it definitely needs work on both animations and along with the atmosphere
Because there are popular faces attached to this game the people who support this game are mostly fans of said creators.
If this game came out of nowhere with no fan base attached this game would be called a copy of any other "Modern" mascot horror games
well, this game can be turned into something actually memorable.
not a copy paste game like the others, but currently it kinda is so hope they put passion in the game
a part of me doesn't like how true that is but there's still potential
unfortunately it is true
wayy better than banban, but thats kinda what i was expecting
Unique geese said himself that once every chapter was out he would redo chapter one. Also the game is free, a passion project, made by a guy with little experience and still came out great. I hope chapter 2 leaves a better impression on you :D
I think chapter one is basically just a tutorial and introduction, thats probably why it doesnt have much good puzzles and stuff, plus, they cant make a 2 hour long chapter one for introducing Rambley, the critter cuff, the animatronics, a chase scene, then EVEN MORE puzzles and mechanics to escape the robots and stuff.
Personally I enjoyed the game, but I will admit it has some flaws, but I am excited to see where the game will go as a whole. :D
Honestly same (opposite chain)
Honestly different
Dishonestly different
Different honestly
Same honestly
I think Chapter one personally is something i'd treat more as a proof of concept then anything else, something that shows 'hey, were serious about this project. If you give us a chance, we can give you so much more."
Nothing is perfect
Even a game like this
So its nice to see this man addressing the problems in this game
8:33 - I mean, I can see a situation where you would probably hold a flashlight like this since *usually* your thumb is on the switch to turn it on and off. What if it's one of those flashlights with the switch on the back, where you would usually unscrew to put the batteries in? It could also potentially be a bit quicker to swap the batteries holding it like that, or because the beam shines farther because the flashlight is held higher up.
Still... not many people would hold a flashlight like that, especially when the switch is near the front, looks uncomfortable for long periods of time.
Now THIS is constructive criticism that the devs can learn from. Much better than the bs coming from Theft King. I also agree with a lot of your points.
I have a low horror tolerance, so this game scared the heck out of me
17:42
i remember hearing Rambley say something about being registered and then said it was expired, implying that they're in the public domain.
I genuinely hate that we've gotten to a point where criticism is inherently seen as hatred, or a wish for something to fail, or worst of all criticism of the artist himself instead of the product. It unfortunately is pretty natural, considering how much of the "critic genre" of UA-cam is just contrarian bashing with almost no care for improvement, and how the opposite extreme is just mindless bandwagoning praise without being able to allow any negativity at all... but nothing is perfect, just like there's always potential to be found in something bad.
I am very glad to see a fairly reasonable take on Indigo Park though. I didn't understand why the entire internet was going nutso-butso for a Mascot Horror demo that to me was "fine" but didn't punch me in the face with a hook that set it above the sea of mascot horror games out there. Turns out it was much more the praise for the artist than the art, which is the "toxic positive" inverse of "if you hate the art then you must hate the artist" - assuming if you love the artist you MUST love the art. That isn't true at all. Be constructive with your criticism, but be honest, and recognize that a creator is not his creation, and he will go on to hopefully make more even better creations in the future.
Sorry for the rant, it's just an issue I've noticed a lot in fandom, that you're not able to love the artist and think the art is bad, or hate the artist while appreciating something he made on its own merits. Both are normal human responses, and shouldn't be shamed and dogpiled.
oh hey its that funne raccoon game i know nothing about yippeeee
That phone operator sounded oddly familiar 🤔
I have a huge love for indigo park, and I have some criticism that I don’t really admit, if there is one thing I think should be improved in later installments, it’s the way our character interacts with these mascots, considering they were fans of the mascots as a child. But you can’t make a great game without some criticism, but I know that this game is something very special.
It is a walking simulator but it is a walking simulator with heart.
"Do y'all have any fun here?"
"We have a heart"
Woah the timing! I just finished playing the first chapter and i thought it was alright, tho needed a little more work. Will probably edit this after watching the video! ^^
Edit: Yep, the video has same thoughts and criticisms as i did! Great video! ^^
Rambley is so cute tbh.
Thank you for the input "sigma male anti female"
@@Daggz Your welcome, "Daggz".
i'm a big fan of the 'decaying AI that's overly positive but also very naive' character type.
@@DaggzWoag a sigma male
I'm just glad it hasn't been called a cashgrab *cough theft king cough*
It’s kinda funny that he called it a cash grab even though the game is free and currently only has one official piece of merchandise which is the makeship plush, and that isn’t even gonna be around forever so it’s not like it’s being mass produced like the bootleg ones that have been around long before the game even came out.
Am I the only that noticed that the founder from the founder and rambley statue seemed to move. Like I clearly saw the founder's head looking like it follows you
garten of banban 8, poppy playtime chapter 4, indigo park chapter 2. I see a pattern
hint: no hint i’ll just tell you divide by 2
Eh? I don't get it
@@supersmashseandx1991 BanBan has twice as many entries as Poppy, who has twice as many entries as Indigo
420 joke ahaha funny
@@FrogiceG it's 421
@@psychosplatterstudios619 oh that's funny
27:28 GEMINI HOME ENTERTAINMENT MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!! WHERE THE HELL IS NEPTUNE!!!!!!!🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️
At this rate, probably consumed by the Iris or something.. Haven't watched it in a while.
I was avoiding this video after being soured by what I heard about the Theft King bid, but you make some excellent points-some of which, like adding more decor, Mason has acknowledged on a stream. Hope he sees this video!
I wish there was more scary in this game.
It feel empty in certain areas
Everyone understands that this is their first game and they’re a passionate developer. But all that does is give a context and a justification (of sorts) for their mistakes- it does not excuse them. So let’s be fair with its faults.
exactly, even when the developer himself says he wants the criticism. Fandoms aka fanatics never change
I hope some of the people commenting here watch the whole video, especially the end. It’s clear that Daggz admires the dev tremendously. He is critical out of the goodness of his heart because he holds the team to a high standard. Two things can exist at once: you can see the issues a game has and the promise it holds simultaneously.
I can already see half the people commenting clearly didn't sit through it
Yeah, same thing happened with Thief King where I'm pretty sure 99% of the comments is dogging on him yet when I seen the video all the way he made a lot of go points and was somewhat entertaining. except for the Minecraft youtuber comment, that could have stayed out the video
you know something's up when the highlight of your big chase is HOW AMAZING THE CHASE THEME IS OH MY GOD I LOVE IT
I feel like Indigo Park's horror does not work on multiple levels.
1. It's a genuinely fun park with some blood splatters and trashed rooms. The only way the Rambley train is scary is when it assaults my ears with a glitched speaker. Curse Lennart Poettering and his shitty pulseaudio
2. Linear spaces kill tension if you have more than 2 braincells because they mean you just have to hold shift + W and run to where the game directs you
3. Most of the lore is barebones and more time is spent on funny shout-outs to Playtime with Percy, Bendy and the Ink Machine, Fnaf, and fucking DSAF than anything of substance. Even though Indigo Park has a gaslit AGI as a tour guide and seemingly biological and feral mascots roam the area. This kind of tech is usually waved away as being transmigrated into the ink dimension, magic living metal, or absolutely nothing in the case of Poppy Playtime. And I am very annoyed when we just have to roll along, because if you want a character-driven horror, you better have an environment and context for them and an answer to how and why their tormentors thought it was a good idea to put a giant lion on stage with the only thing between it and a mauled child being a cheap plastic cuff that plays Rebecca Black's Friday to ward Lloyd off.
4. Rambley, Lionmaker, Finnley and Mollie the Macaw are very good mascots with many E621 results and good VAs who seem to be the winners of the indie media surge. And Rambley is always there to lighten the mood.
5. As a result, I am at a complete detachment from my character. I don't feel like some scared urbexer, I feel like I'm in Freeman's Mind and it's just the lack of crowbars and my feelings toward Mollie that keep me from going to town on the nearest living creature, like how I fried Catnap and turned Mommy Long Legs into a liveleak video at the playtime OSHA lawsuit factory.
6. The final chase is incredibly geriatric and it's usually not a good sign when I feel bad for the monster and want to hug it and end up traumatized not because of the chase but because of its tragic death at the hands of the fnaf security door.
the amount of love and care XD is just a normal raccoon
9:49 I could see glamrock Freddy as bubbly and friendly, but how are the others bubbly and friendly? Monty and angry and aggressive, roxy is mocking and self-absorbed (and insecure), and chica is a ditz and hungry.
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I think Chica suppose to be a kind and outgoing person, her dialogues asking if we want candy and she wants to call for our parents, she also wants people to be healty and happy.
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I agree and wouldn't say Roxy and Monty fit in the bubbly and friendly, but Roxy was suppose to be cool and show kids to be proud of themselfs and how losing isn't that bad, while still having a competitive sense.
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While Monty is a "goofy idiot" with dialogues like you can hide but you can't hide, probably suppose to be a calm person, playing golf and interacting with guests(and no, I don't believe the theory he destroyed Bonnie, at max he was controled by Vanny to do it)
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I really feel like the 3 where only like that because of a mixture of a bad staff, and the virus(the attentents included, yes, both of them) I really feel all of the bad traits were way small before it happened, I just feel bad for what happened for everyone(at least Roxy seems to be able to get agood ending later?)
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Another problem would probably be the bad writting security breach had, I barely need to say it, the amount of videos, posts, concepts, rewrites and more about this game is too much
@@ViniciusDiasissy okay.
@@maazfarhantheepicgamer311 .....what?
13:33 THAT ELBOW!!!
Your right a true amusement park is usually full of themselves super fancy but they always caught my eyes as a kid weather I was in silver doller city or six flags or kentucky kingdom or Disney land
My brain dying when he didn’t stop to collect the golden Rambly 20:48