How could anyone diss Chandler? He never cheated on Monica. He didn't had a one night stand with her. He did everything to make her happy. And the one man who has a big fear of commitment, married Monica. So tell me why is Chandler being diss?
Yea but thats actually not funny. Especially monica untied the g string with her mouth. What the heck is that? if chandler did it to a stripper i bet everyone would hate on him. And phoebe was a terrible friend for causing so many problems. But rarely is it talked about cz all ppl wanna do is hate on rachel and ross while in fact rachel never caused problems to her friends or spilled their secrets.
@@sahariissa How is it phoebe's fault when monica is the one who has so many secrets? "We're supposed to be honest with each other" she said that to chandler but she's the one who's not honest with him
@@mynameiswoman she was trying on things she couldn’t afford when she had one job. She was being a bad friend. She SHOULD have gotten that ring back otherwise I for one would never forgive her. A real friend wouldn’t have gotten distracted. Also chandler was the one who said she was dying. He did more in getting the ring back than she did
@@mynameiswoman what is there to misunderstand in that scene? Phoebe was supposed to stay there to make sure no one bought the ring. She got distracted and someone else bought the ring. The fact that she helped get it back doesn't erase the fact that she let it be sold to another person in the first place.
This video forgot the scene where phoebe was with David and she accidentally referred to him as Mike and then said that Monica refers to chandler as Richard all the time😂😂😂
Phoebe was clearly low key jealous of the fact that her two friends were in a healthy relationship and ended up marrying each other and getting serious really fast while she nor Rachel weren’t
Or talk with your partner and tell them if she spills a secret, she’s probably making it sound a lot worse than it is, that way you can hear the clarification without overreacting first by looking at the bright side 😂
That feels like Phoebe helping with the speech by doing that, honestly. Testing relationships brings this out of them. Remember when Rachel was moving out? Not that she knew exactly what he'd say, she just knew he'd say something sweet
@@bonniestar4707It's a bit a both. Having an unstable childhood does that. She's testing, and it's because when you're not in a toxic relationship, you're a bit or more toxic.
They had Phoebe either making sexual innuendo about Chandler in front of Monica or demeaning his masculinity or trying to make Monica and Chandler feel insecure about their relationship in some way. Even after their engagement when they were all going to the Plaza Phoebe didn't want to get ready until she forced her song onto Monica with lyrics saying when she first met Chandler she thought he was gay.... not to mention how hard she shipped Ross & Rachel's kiss overshadowing Mondler. I love Lisa and her great acting but the writers really did her a disservice having her be portrayed as that kind of "friend".
Finally a sensible fan. Phoebe was one of the worst but people always chose to see the kooky side of her that had a painful past. Phoebe is proof that having pain doesn't make you a good person.
@@diamond852 see Phoebe was good but we must understand that her past has made her a bit weird and prejudiced. The fact that she gave birth to her brother's children or forgived her father shows she was strong. While Ursula her twin sister in the same circumstances turned out to be a psychopath. But Phoebe was weird. her way of life created certain issues in her. She shipped roschel more because she understood toxic relationship more as compared to healthy one. She did not try to break Mondler. She was not sure thay this kind of healthy relationship van exist plus I feel she was also trying to check how strong would Chandler be - since he had commitment issues. She did create rift but this proved them to be stronger in their relationship than roschel, these incidents would have been enough for them to drift apart but not to Mondler. And she did try to mend things. She told Chandler jn Vegas to go back to Monica. Which means she was weird not mean, she did not understand it, but she supported it after realising tht they were meant to be
That's right! Thank you! And if she was jealous, than the way she acts just proves that Rachel, despite her flaws and occasional pettiness, is a better friend to Mondler. Even though she makes fun of Chandler sometimes, honestly they all kind of do at one point or another, which makes me sad, she remained supportive even though when the two got engaged, she said that she was jealous of them finding love. She did get jealous, but she did not lash out. Phoebe did it just because. You're absolutely correct about the way the writers portrayed her in the later seasons. Not so much funny anymore as just petty and cruel.
Thank you!!! Finally someone who understands 😂 I found her funny but when chandler and Monica got together she was too much always bringing him down and it bugged me cuz it happened often.
Ofc his constant objectification of women is good, right? he just had Monica so he became better but if he stayed bachelor he will continue with that mentality
@@jvc.4655 The only thing that makes women madder than being objectified is when they reach the age they're no longer considered attractive and don't get objectified lmao
Look, I love all these six characters to pieces. But in moments like these, I cannot help but wonder if Phoebe is just being her usual self, or if she's being deliberately mean spirited towards Chandler, of all people. Sure, Chandler's pretty sarcastic and acerbic when he wants to be, but never hurtful/harmful towards his friends, in my opinion. But this? This is just pure meanness at worst and pettiness at best. I especially find it hard to forgive her starting up this whole 'Don, Monica's soulmate' thing. Ugh! The woman is married, for goodness's sake! Love Lisa, to be sure, love Phoebe (most of the time), but what can I say? I love Mondler more.
yeah, in truth that was bad desicion making from the writters. Chandler is easily the most loved character of friends with joey, so its hard not to hate her when she does that and also she being one of the weakest
@@fernandoreimpell2818For whatever reason, Phoebe really started becoming unlikable as the show went on. Starting around Season 5, she became a lot meaner. She constantly made snarky comments and would insult every character, most notably Ross and Chandler. That is not who Phoebe was at all in the earlier seasons. Seriously, did a new set of writers come in during that time? Or did the current writers just randomly forget what made Phoebe such a great character in the early seasons?
@@superjackster0165there WAS a writer’s strike for awhile, if I remember correctly. That’s when the writing changed, and it was more forced comedy. Joey got child-like, phoebe got mean, and Monica got loud. I stopped watching for a couple of years bc it just wasn’t that funny anymore. But then later, when Rachel had her baby, the writing started getting good again.
Honestly this video kinda shows the flaws in Phoebe and Monica. Monica is a major hypocrite; she keeps so many secrets from Chandler, yet gets mad at him if he gets upset over it or keeps a secret from her. And Phoebe is just outright an ass to Chandler and some of the other friends besides Joey. I feel like Chandler and Rachel were the only good friends of the 6, but only if we exclude Rachel’s relationship with Ross where both of them were equally horrible to each other.
I remember the time when monica found out that chandler lied to her about her bad massages and said "We're supposed to be honest with each other" but she's the one who has a lot of secrets. Smh
At the risk of getting killed by her fans, this is one of the reasons why I dislike Phoebe. She basically has no filter or restrain : she just says or does whatever she wants to, not caring about the consequences and when there are consequences, she doesn’t even consider that she’s responsible or is like « whatever, I’ll just act like this isn’t my fault » and barely cares for those she might have offended. Sometimes, she could be really rude, disrespectful and insensitive towards others, even people she would call her friends. I know she’s very popular but I really have a hard time seeing her as a good person : I often felt like people would overlook her flaws because she was goofy and had a sad past
Starting around Season 5, she became a lot meaner. She constantly made snarky comments and would insult every character, most notably Ross and Chandler. That is not who Phoebe was at all in the earlier seasons. Seriously, did a new set of writers come in during that time? Or did the current writers just randomly forget what made Phoebe such a great character in the early seasons?
At the risk of being eaten alive by Mondler shippers, I think Chandler and Monica’s relationship is toxic but Phoebe trying to cause trouble between them played a major role in my disliking of her, she treated them unacceptably…but fairly, I had a hard time seeing ALL six characters as good people especially Rachel and Phoebe, I dislike those 2 and I like the rest but they’re definitely the type of people I never want to have in my life
Phoebe turned awful around Season 5 lmao. Her and Chandler have such a uniquely great friendship in Season 3 where they often team up on subplots together. Then from about Season 6 they really, really push her and Joey as closer friends and have Phoebe start being extremely condescending, nasty and random, particularly towards Chandler and somewhat Ross. I'm up to the Vegas episode and Phoebe's at it already. It really is around Season 6 it becomes a little nonstop that she turns nasty and patronising, acting like she's the mainstay of the group despite actually being the one everyone knows could 'lift right out'. 'Now you're just my annoying friend Chandler'. 'Wow, I owe Rachel 20 bucks' 'It's only Chandler' Monica: 'If I can meet a great guy, so can you' Phoebe (blatantly in the face of Monica rightfully calling Chandler a great guy): 'Yeah we both can. And we both will!' Chandler is a better man than Phoebe could dream of. And yet ironically? She did meet a guy about as close to later seasons Chandler as you can get, in David. And she passed him up for Mike the wang? And that's not discounting Paul Rudd's unsurpassable charisma that allowed Mike to stay as long as he did but Mike as a character was no way on David's level and yet Phoebe has the audacity to act like she has any kind of say in what does or doesn't make a good relationship, what does or doesn't make a good man? Insanity! >Invites herself onto Monica and Chandler's anniversary trip then forces them to allow her to come, invites everyone else onto their trip then tells Chandler about Richard. That's not excusing Chandler of freaking out over less than nothing but Phoebe was the catalyst and began to do this constantly in between Monica and Chandler in the later seasons. It's a shame because Lisa Kudrow is actually hysterical, one of the most consistently hilarious actors in the show (And I think she was one of the ones that pushed Phoebe towards becoming nastier and angrier in the later episodes) but it is what it is. It's just one case of flanderisation that pops up as the show goes on.
Ikr? I mean I LOVE and adore Phoebe but my god ...she becomes so irritating from time to time. Chandler is easily one of the best characters out of all 6 and she would just act like he's this nobody?
@@areeanachowdhury9070 Yeah and I can't lie, the whole 'Monica was looking for Joey subplot' is one of the worst in the show in my opinion lmao. I despise when they pit the friends against each other. Joey smiles immediately upon hearing this but what about poor Chandler. He spent most of the show being in Joey's shadow with women then only a couple of times does he actually prove himself as a romantic partner over Joey, like with Kathy, Monica (Joey always makes jokey passes at her) or the Dutch girl and this just throws that right out the window. It's a really spiteful joke to Chandler in my opinion and another instance of Phoebe running her mouth against their relationship, which she was just nonstop for. I mean, at the end, Phoebe doesn't even apologise and actually just runs a hypothetical by them of what Joey and Monica as a couple would have actually been like. I mean, what the hell? Like I said in my opening post, they really up the whole 'Phoebe thinks the world of Joey more than the rest of the group and defends him incessantly no matter what scenario' which you didn't really have before about Season 5 or 6.
@@user-nv2wt4hi8t ifkr? I mean ofc it's just a show, but I hate how some people just don't realize why that whole thing bothered Chandler so much. The man was FULL of insecurities and always thought of as "less than" so obviously he was extremely upset about that. Phoebe was GREAT at times but you just dont treat your friends like that Remember this line " I'm so glad Chandler and monica got together..for him, she can do better though"
@@areeanachowdhury9070 Spot on! My thoughts exactly. The worst part to me is, when you re-watch, from Seasons 1-3 Phoebe and Chandler were two of the closest friends. They worked together, they broke up with their partners together, she consoled him when Janice broke up with him. Loads of stuff! Then you get to Season 4 and it kind of disappears. Then by Seasons 5-6 you start to see them push Joey and Phoebe as two of the closest, quirkiest friends and forget about Chandler and Phoebe being particularly close (beyond the engagement ring and a few other things) and instead have Phoebe either go straight for Chandler with derisive comments or target Monica and Chandler despite them being by far, in my opinion, the healthiest, sweetest relationship. It's really odd! Yeah Chandler is, in my opinion, the example of the absolute best character development. In seasons 1-4 he's pretty irreverent, a bit self sabotaging/self deprecating in his humor, very, very frightened of commitment. But as the show goes on and you get to around Seasons 7-10 (maybe even a bit earlier?) the guy absolutely takes control as possibly the most mature, most caring and most responsible member of the group. As the friends begin to become caricatures of themselves, Chandler bizarrely goes the opposite way for the most part to me (not always, e.g. the interview with the jokes and stuff like that) and becomes extremely dependable, so it's odd that they write most of the characters to view him as someone who's not quite there in terms of being respected or funny or attractive. Is what it is but it's not great upon re-watch.
Pheobe was a sweet heart in the beginning. First season pheobe was my favourite, she was kind and funny. But in the later seasons her funny-ness became cruel. She always insulted Chandler, also she created so many rifts between Chandler and Monica. Her character never developed it went way down the hill. She would ship toxic love like Rachel and Ross 's but belitte Mondler everytime. She became so toxic. Chandler is the only guy who turned out to be good and best when it comes to relationship. He's the best boyfriend and husband in the tv history. As a fan of chandler and Mondler, I really hated her in later seasons.
Phoebe was annoying, bossy, self-absorbed and consistently stirred up trouble among the friends but people love her because she was kooky and had a difficult past. And we wonder what's wrong with the world.
I agree, you like her as a character, but as a person you wouldn't wanna have her in your life. Kinda like Micheal Scott (saying this before my fellow office fans come and kill me )
Really chandler ?? it’s her behaviour towards Ross that me dislike her a bit the evolution argument she was just so mean to him she even got him questioning himself and phoebe thought it was fun but I didn’t it was just pure callous
I've always wanted to know Lisa Kudrow's thoughts on the way Phoebe was changed. When you rewatch or binge watch the show, it's such a big and obvious change, a 180 almost (post triplets). Anyone know if the cast, creators or writers have ever been asked about it? Has noone dared ask because they are afraid of seeming critical? The cast was pretty powerful, so if I should guess, Lisa agreed to the change, sadly. I definitely didn't find Phoebe's sudden pettiness, meanness, and occasional self-pity funny.
I think towards the end of the series they exaggerated every characters flaws and made them less nuanced. Joey became overly stupid, Phoebe petty, Monica became too OTT, Chandler became too feminine and meek, Ross became too whiny and Rachel became to irritable
@@williamevans3327 Yeah but for the others, most of the times, they exaggerated traits they already had. They didn't outright change them, the way they did with Phoebe. The first seasons she was the opposite of petty and self-pitying. She was the generous hippie girl who was cleansing Ross's aura and just had a different take on things. She was honest and direct, but not in a hurtful way.
@@monmothma3358 YES!! Exactly!! Thank you, I've never heard anyone else mention this before. They totally changed her character, and definitely not for the better.
@@lizzy-wx4rx Glad you see it too! I heard a lot of people comment on the change, so that's definitely not just you and me. Just never heard anyone from the show talk about it. Take when Paolo made a pass at Phoebe in season... 2? She brought milk and cookies to soothe the blow when she had to tell Rachel. Later seasons Phoebe never would have been that mindful of one of the other Friends' feelings.
@@monmothma3358 Perhaps if we see it in a realistic point of view, it makes sense, there are ppl irl that change for the worse. Sadly, they chose the most transparent and humble character to do that. However, I think they didn't change her with this thought in mind, they were just trying to make her "funnier" with darker humor.
It probably does not make sense to Phoebe that a relationship can be as easy, as the one between Monica and Chandler. Even when she meets Mike there is a lot of back and forth and complications, and thats the greatest sense of normal she has ever had
Fair, she did like 6 big lies worthy of breaking up, I think Chandler is really only at fault for one relationship ending issue (when he kissed another girl and monica opened the presents.) and that one was admitted and forgiven. She goes to see Richard like 4 times in secret, which for me is a "bye bye Monica" moment.
Those weren't lies, they're secrets that would've just made Chandler insecure about their relationship. Monica was sparing him b/c those things were all superficial and didn't take away from how much she loved him. Phoebe as her best friend should've kept her mouth closed.
@@kyleellis9177 she didn't saw richard on purpose. she saw him on the street and as a respect she just had a meal with him. that's all, what's wrong with that?
I hate how Phoebe went from the nicest of the three female leads to being more mean and nasty, and treats Ross and Chandler horribly in later seasons. What happened to the old Phoebe who was so kind and sweet?
I often got the impression that Phoebe kind of hated Chandler. He was a normal kind of guy and she is the crazy woman used to go with weirdos. I think she also was very jealous of the normalcy of Monica and Chandler as a couple, something she never had portrayed to her by her parents growing up and something she never pursued herself, until Mike. In fact, by marrying Mike, the most Chandler-like sort of person she ever was with, she got what she actually craved and was jealous of - a normal, "vanilla" relationship like Monica's and Chandler's. And she is mean to Monica many times too, like the rest of the group, teasing her ways while also enjoying free food and hospitality in her apartment all the time. Phoebe is actually the most boring, artificial and often hypocritical of the friends, acting like she has so many principles and constantly acting against that whenever it suited her. She used the group of friends to appear like the quirky and eccentric "special" one because the rest of them were regular people with regular lives not trying to look anything different.
interesting how phoebe always made jokes about or belittled monica and chandlers relationship, but she was such a supporter of ross and rachels toxic mess. gotta wonder if thats just how they ended up writing it or if it was an intentional choice for whatever reason.
Exactly!! Like why is she a die hard supporter of Ross and Rachel, but she absolutely despises Monica and Chandler? It’s infuriating how the show never answered that question
Phoebe is always trying to break up Monica and Chandler. I hate that she doesn't support them and wants to destroy their relationship. I never understand what she has against them being together. They're a wonderful couple, but she's too big of an ass to see it😠😡
There's a fan theory that Phoebe did all these things to sabotage Chandler and Monica because she was in love with him. Obvs not true but it's interesting to think about when watching these clips
i doubt it because if that was the case i’m sure she would have lashed out her hatred towards monica for stealing chandler. even before they started dating, phoebe seemed to enjoy making fun of chandler. so maybe after monica _did_ start dating chandler, phoebe thought he wasn’t good enough for monica or something? maybe that’s why she was looking to sabotage their relationship
I mean she forced herself to be on a trip when obviously it's Mondler's anniversary then invite Ross and Rachel over. If she did that with me and my gf, man I will remove her out of our lives.
Even if Phoebe was the one to tell those secrets, why aren't people questioning Monica's choices on those decisions??? She did things and knew Chandler wouldn't be alr wit it and still did it, like even if Phoebe could of ruined the relationship at least in a way she told him. If Phoebe is getting hate for saying secrets Monica should be for the same reason for having those secrets in the first place.
I don't think he liked his birthday. Chandler's character arch is i believe that he got scarred by his family with some specific events. Thanksgiving, birthday and I think Christmas.
Well, there was an episode where they played a flashback for like 5 seconds of Chandler's birthday with stupid joey crying while saying "and now, Chandler" lol it was funny and stupid but, nonetheless, the closest thing we got to seeing an episode of it being Chandler's birthday!
Yea the no:1 almost broke them apart if it wasn't for Joey's beautiful speech 🤧😖 And also the engagement ring disaster and when she told Chandler and David that Monica always say Richard's name that one was kind of Monica's fault but still!
@@Szobiz so what are you saying? What's your opinion? Yes i love this show and i don't hate the character Pheobe , I'm just commenting something about this video that i can understand about ....why do you have to call me delusional? you don't even know me 🤷🏻♀️ well i bet you're so perfect and flawless huh??
Speaking of no:1, it makes no sense how Phoebe could possibly know what Monica was really thinking that night anyway. She wasn't even in London with the gang because she was pregnant. This absurdity was never even pointed out, especially since Chandler naively believed her without even asking how she would know that. And Phoebe only claimed Monica says Richard's name to cover up her own mistake of calling David "Mike" by accident, not because she was trying to break up Monica and Chandler again. That's why it's not listed here
It’s so obvious that Phoebe hated Monica and Chandler’s relationship and secretly tried to break it up. Like I legitimately want to know the explanation for that. What did they both do to piss her off so much?
Matthew Perry looks the most aged among them today...despite him being the 2nd youngest.. And Courteney simply had to destroy her beautiful.. gorgeous face with surgery!!! So sad to see one of the best TV couples in such a tragic state!
his death has hit me the hardest as it was so unexpected even though i never met him he was a big part of making me laugh the most im so sorry this happened to a beautiful soul sleep tight and R.I.P matthew the whole world is absolutely devastated beyond words💔💔💔 we really have lost an icon
Phoebe's disrespect towards Chandler was always unacceptable. And it's crazy how they kept her all thoses years in the friends group even when she clearly hated Chandler, Ross and always thought about herself in the first place. She only tolerated Joey because she was attracted to him
Monica enjoyed stripper on her bachelor party, went for a bite with ex after getting married, went back to Richard for consolement after Chandler told her he didnt want to have babies and flirted with stranger in front of her fiance. Great partner.
hey so firstly she simply didnt want to ruin her anniversary ..... cz she knew chandler wont like it .... she herself said that she'll tell chandler post anniversary. but naaah phoebe has to get in, do shit and then act oblivious . lastly i would never like a friend who breaks the girl code and sleeps with my ex(go watch that episode where rachel gets her first paycheck as a waitress)
Am I the only one surprised (not to say "chocked") to realize how Monica treats Chandler like shit sometimes, while he always cares of her so much? I mean I already had thought that at some points when watching the show but this video kind of makes it clear.
I always thought the perfect line for Chandler when Phoebe said I didn't know you were going to be here, and Chandler would say " We're always here" in his Chandler Bing anxious voice
Why was Phoebe always against Monica and Chandler getting together which are the healthiest couple in the show but always pushed for Ross and Rachel to get together who in my opinion shouldn't have gotten back together at the end
Or how horrible Monica was as a partner. Why does she keep so many secrets from Chandler? She had a bachelorette party and lunch with her ex and didn't tell him.
I always hated Phoebe because she could get away with so much since she was the "crazy" character, everyone just forgave her like saying "oh that's just how she is". She ruined so much stuff.
Chandler was always too good for Monica… he didn’t realize that because oh, well, she was a pretty lady into him. He has a lot of low self esteem, which kept him in place… but it’s not just that, he’s got morals, loyalty and just a one of a kind man. Can’t find another man like chandler, she’s not loyal, probably would have even cheated if she had the chance. I never could stand the woman in this show, or the guys expect for chandler.
Forgive the text or any poorly expressed speech, I'm from Brazil and I'm using Google Translate, I'm a huge fan of the series, a huge fan of Chandler. You know what's worse? TOTALLY free. It's not because Chandler treated her badly, it's not because Monica treated her badly. NOBODY treated her badly (maybe Ross sometimes, but more due to differences in belief and thought, but always maintaining respect). It seems like a need to want to be the center of attention in the most pathetic way a person is determined to do. There are two Phoebe's in the series, from Season 1 to a not very specific moment in Season 5; the really funny Phoebe, the one who really helps with positive advice, the one who is willing to do everything FOR THE GOOD of her friends, who didn't need to attract attention in a flashy way from others. And the other, A character who needed to humiliate, despise, who already forced himself to be "funny", who needed to pose challenges in a healthy relationship as we had this displeasure in seeing (not the video itself, but the moments in the series specifically) , and the most notable thing is that when she definitely started to be like this from Season 6 onwards, everyone looked at her after another "funny" moment of hers and thought "no, leave it alone, it's Phoebe, she has to have this moment ". How can a character regress like that? I don't know, I just think it was unnecessary because Phoebe was an excellent character in the first seasons. I appreciate Mike for having the patience and managing to pull off this pathetic return that was Phoebe for several Seasons, he revived that Phoebe from the beginning of the series, added to the maturity of the life that she SHOULD have had but preferred to waste time with nonsense. But what leaves me most amazed despite these moments, was that Chandler, Mônica, Joey, Rachel and Ross were ALWAYS there with her, never retorting or anything, like showing "you mistreated us several times, you didn't make the slightest effort to help us take away from bad or embarrassing moments, but we won't repay you with the same coin, because the moment you actually stop wasting time acting like a toxic idiot, we'll be there with you", like, honoring the main theme of the series.
Monica gets mad at Chandler for not being "truthful" w/her about her massages, yet every one of these scenarios is her hiding the truth or lying.. thats why Phoebe did it, she's checking Monica & it is grand.
Ok, Friends is an excelent TV Show but this video shows us how the writters were lazy at times. They just needed a device (Phoebe, the quirky person of the group) to create a temporary drama between Monica and Chandler that would be solved at the end of the episode, and they dit it at least 5 times. The one who suffers from this is, of course, Phoebe who becomes so nasty Season 6 onwards. I like Phoebe as much I like all the other five, but there are some lines that she delivers that are straight up just insulting and "that's what makes it funny" the writters thought back them, again a lazy and honestly horrible way to work on her character
Pheobe had the most glaring and radical change as a character. As others in the comment have said all the other friends changed but the they just their characteristics ratcheted up to 1000 but Pheobe drastically changed. She became selfish, petty and sometimes outright cruel. She went from being the kindest of the group to the meanest.
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I think it is so sad that Chandler is so often dissed in FRIENDS he is really sweet with Monica and really tries and he is such a sweetheart 🥺
Ikr and he's often the target of everyone's jokes
He’s quite sarcastic as well. But yeah, he’s the nicest, giving and most stable character of all of them.
Really? He always makes fun of everyone with his sarcasm. Still nice and the best character though.
How could anyone diss Chandler? He never cheated on Monica. He didn't had a one night stand with her. He did everything to make her happy. And the one man who has a big fear of commitment, married Monica. So tell me why is Chandler being diss?
And meanwhile Monica treats him as a sure thing and just makes fun of him
I never realised how many times phoebe let out Monica's secrets in front of chandler she has a very big mouth 😂
Childish Phoebe... 😝
Yea but thats actually not funny. Especially monica untied the g string with her mouth. What the heck is that? if chandler did it to a stripper i bet everyone would hate on him. And phoebe was a terrible friend for causing so many problems. But rarely is it talked about cz all ppl wanna do is hate on rachel and ross while in fact rachel never caused problems to her friends or spilled their secrets.
@@sahariissa sitcoms tend to exaggerate tragedy for comedy. that’s the entire show really
She doesn’t care. She’s flaky 😂
@@sahariissa How is it phoebe's fault when monica is the one who has so many secrets? "We're supposed to be honest with each other" she said that to chandler but she's the one who's not honest with him
Yeah and she almost ruined Chandler's proposal by letting some other guy buy the engagement ring Chandler picked.
No she didn't. U misunderstood that scene. She was distracted but she also helped him get it back by claiming she was dying.
@@mynameiswoman she was trying on things she couldn’t afford when she had one job. She was being a bad friend. She SHOULD have gotten that ring back otherwise I for one would never forgive her. A real friend wouldn’t have gotten distracted. Also chandler was the one who said she was dying. He did more in getting the ring back than she did
@@lunarialoonatic she did get the ring back because if she hadn’t claimed that she was dying he would have never given it back to him
@@lunarialoonatic no she said she was dying and Chandler agreed
@@mynameiswoman what is there to misunderstand in that scene? Phoebe was supposed to stay there to make sure no one bought the ring. She got distracted and someone else bought the ring. The fact that she helped get it back doesn't erase the fact that she let it be sold to another person in the first place.
This video forgot the scene where phoebe was with David and she accidentally referred to him as Mike and then said that Monica refers to chandler as Richard all the time😂😂😂
I was gonna say that 🤣🤣
😝😝 That's Phoebe... We all love her.
Lol
Omg, I forgot about that. In real life that would soooo end a relationship.
Which episode is that?
Sad that she was almost never supportive of Chandler & Monica: the best (and healthiest) couple in the show
ikr! and she was the biggest shipper of Rosachel , whom are very toxic
@@xxnoranxx184 Exactly
Phoebe was clearly low key jealous of the fact that her two friends were in a healthy relationship and ended up marrying each other and getting serious really fast while she nor Rachel weren’t
@@darrenhenderson3 I'd say that Mike and Phoebe was pretty damn happy
@@darrenhenderson3 Phoebe's character always humiliate Chandler. That's how show show is written.
Note to self, Don’t share secrets with Phoebe.
Or talk with your partner and tell them if she spills a secret, she’s probably making it sound a lot worse than it is, that way you can hear the clarification without overreacting first by looking at the bright side 😂
Or Chandler cause he also is bad with keeping secrets and even openly admits to telling secrets to get people to like him.
Phoebe creates the rift and Joey fixes it
That feels like Phoebe helping with the speech by doing that, honestly. Testing relationships brings this out of them. Remember when Rachel was moving out? Not that she knew exactly what he'd say, she just knew he'd say something sweet
Phoebe messing with Mondler just proved that there relationship is stronger than ever!
Maybe Phoebe was jealous of their healthy romantic relationship and wanted to stir up trouble. Ross and Rachel wasn't healthy so she didn't do that.
@@bonniestar4707It's a bit a both. Having an unstable childhood does that. She's testing, and it's because when you're not in a toxic relationship, you're a bit or more toxic.
Chandler's jaw sticking out expression when he's saying he isn't mad at Monica is so accurate for the anger and jealousy he's feeling
Okay, the amount of patience they had for Phoebe is outstanding
Absolutely. At times I wonder why they even let phoebe into the group to begin with. It's a tv show but that doesn't mean I can't wonder
Patience
@@SexyBarny69 The show's titled ''FRIENDS'' so maybe it's not that difficult to figure out how they have ''patience'' for Phoebe.
Out of all the couples on that show, Monica and Chandler are the best couples.
They had Phoebe either making sexual innuendo about Chandler in front of Monica or demeaning his masculinity or trying to make Monica and Chandler feel insecure about their relationship in some way. Even after their engagement when they were all going to the Plaza Phoebe didn't want to get ready until she forced her song onto Monica with lyrics saying when she first met Chandler she thought he was gay.... not to mention how hard she shipped Ross & Rachel's kiss overshadowing Mondler. I love Lisa and her great acting but the writers really did her a disservice having her be portrayed as that kind of "friend".
Finally a sensible fan. Phoebe was one of the worst but people always chose to see the kooky side of her that had a painful past. Phoebe is proof that having pain doesn't make you a good person.
@@diamond852 see Phoebe was good but we must understand that her past has made her a bit weird and prejudiced. The fact that she gave birth to her brother's children or forgived her father shows she was strong. While Ursula her twin sister in the same circumstances turned out to be a psychopath. But Phoebe was weird. her way of life created certain issues in her. She shipped roschel more because she understood toxic relationship more as compared to healthy one. She did not try to break Mondler. She was not sure thay this kind of healthy relationship van exist plus I feel she was also trying to check how strong would Chandler be - since he had commitment issues. She did create rift but this proved them to be stronger in their relationship than roschel, these incidents would have been enough for them to drift apart but not to Mondler. And she did try to mend things. She told Chandler jn Vegas to go back to Monica. Which means she was weird not mean, she did not understand it, but she supported it after realising tht they were meant to be
@@diamond852 Word
That's right! Thank you! And if she was jealous, than the way she acts just proves that Rachel, despite her flaws and occasional pettiness, is a better friend to Mondler. Even though she makes fun of Chandler sometimes, honestly they all kind of do at one point or another, which makes me sad, she remained supportive even though when the two got engaged, she said that she was jealous of them finding love. She did get jealous, but she did not lash out. Phoebe did it just because. You're absolutely correct about the way the writers portrayed her in the later seasons. Not so much funny anymore as just petty and cruel.
Thank you!!! Finally someone who understands 😂 I found her funny but when chandler and Monica got together she was too much always bringing him down and it bugged me cuz it happened often.
YES 👏🏽
I like Phoebe but sometimes she can be a real pain in the butt. The way she keeps hassling Chandler makes me sad.
Monicas fault not Phoebe
@@jaysonwitting4671 What?
@@FatimaSorianoOfficial gossiping to phoebe behind chandlers back, what for a relationship
Honestly, Chandler's the only one in the group who isnt fucked up. He just has childhood trauma.
Yes he was! Huh?
Ofc his constant objectification of women is good, right? he just had Monica so he became better but if he stayed bachelor he will continue with that mentality
@@jvc.4655the others are worse so....
@@jvc.4655 The only thing that makes women madder than being objectified is when they reach the age they're no longer considered attractive and don't get objectified lmao
@@jvc.4655 You have issues
In some way I believe that Phoebe is doing this on purpose.
Me too
take that to therapy
Absolutely. Her character absolutely knew what she was doing. "See you're doing it again. I don't have feelings for chandler anymore"
I agree
That last two were egregious. The only one you can really say she messed up on was where she mentioned Richard and Monica’s lunch
Look, I love all these six characters to pieces. But in moments like these, I cannot help but wonder if Phoebe is just being her usual self, or if she's being deliberately mean spirited towards Chandler, of all people. Sure, Chandler's pretty sarcastic and acerbic when he wants to be, but never hurtful/harmful towards his friends, in my opinion. But this? This is just pure meanness at worst and pettiness at best. I especially find it hard to forgive her starting up this whole 'Don, Monica's soulmate' thing. Ugh! The woman is married, for goodness's sake!
Love Lisa, to be sure, love Phoebe (most of the time), but what can I say? I love Mondler more.
Theres a part of Chandler Phoebe doesnt like. You can tell by her face whenhe makes jokes.
yeah, in truth that was bad desicion making from the writters. Chandler is easily the most loved character of friends with joey, so its hard not to hate her when she does that and also she being one of the weakest
@@fernandoreimpell2818For whatever reason, Phoebe really started becoming unlikable as the show went on. Starting around Season 5, she became a lot meaner. She constantly made snarky comments and would insult every character, most notably Ross and Chandler. That is not who Phoebe was at all in the earlier seasons. Seriously, did a new set of writers come in during that time? Or did the current writers just randomly forget what made Phoebe such a great character in the early seasons?
@@superjackster0165there WAS a writer’s strike for awhile, if I remember correctly. That’s when the writing changed, and it was more forced comedy. Joey got child-like, phoebe got mean, and Monica got loud. I stopped watching for a couple of years bc it just wasn’t that funny anymore. But then later, when Rachel had her baby, the writing started getting good again.
Honestly this video kinda shows the flaws in Phoebe and Monica. Monica is a major hypocrite; she keeps so many secrets from Chandler, yet gets mad at him if he gets upset over it or keeps a secret from her. And Phoebe is just outright an ass to Chandler and some of the other friends besides Joey. I feel like Chandler and Rachel were the only good friends of the 6, but only if we exclude Rachel’s relationship with Ross where both of them were equally horrible to each other.
I remember the time when monica found out that chandler lied to her about her bad massages and said "We're supposed to be honest with each other" but she's the one who has a lot of secrets. Smh
He wanted her to be happy not upset but whatever "Proves your point"
At the risk of getting killed by her fans, this is one of the reasons why I dislike Phoebe.
She basically has no filter or restrain : she just says or does whatever she wants to, not caring about the consequences and when there are consequences, she doesn’t even consider that she’s responsible or is like « whatever, I’ll just act like this isn’t my fault » and barely cares for those she might have offended. Sometimes, she could be really rude, disrespectful and insensitive towards others, even people she would call her friends.
I know she’s very popular but I really have a hard time seeing her as a good person : I often felt like people would overlook her flaws because she was goofy and had a sad past
Starting around Season 5, she became a lot meaner. She constantly made snarky comments and would insult every character, most notably Ross and Chandler. That is not who Phoebe was at all in the earlier seasons. Seriously, did a new set of writers come in during that time? Or did the current writers just randomly forget what made Phoebe such a great character in the early seasons?
At the risk of being eaten alive by Mondler shippers, I think Chandler and Monica’s relationship is toxic but Phoebe trying to cause trouble between them played a major role in my disliking of her, she treated them unacceptably…but fairly, I had a hard time seeing ALL six characters as good people especially Rachel and Phoebe, I dislike those 2 and I like the rest but they’re definitely the type of people I never want to have in my life
@@foozalmirabi9589can you tell me why you find their relationship toxic? Genuinely curious.
Agreed.
@@foozalmirabi9589 HOW is Chandler and Monicas' relationship toxic?
Keep in mind Phoebe shipped Ross and Rachel hard and they WERE toxic.
Monica did all the things secretly but stopped Chandler from doing the same. Chandler was more loyal.
True
Phoebe turned awful around Season 5 lmao. Her and Chandler have such a uniquely great friendship in Season 3 where they often team up on subplots together. Then from about Season 6 they really, really push her and Joey as closer friends and have Phoebe start being extremely condescending, nasty and random, particularly towards Chandler and somewhat Ross. I'm up to the Vegas episode and Phoebe's at it already. It really is around Season 6 it becomes a little nonstop that she turns nasty and patronising, acting like she's the mainstay of the group despite actually being the one everyone knows could 'lift right out'.
'Now you're just my annoying friend Chandler'.
'Wow, I owe Rachel 20 bucks'
'It's only Chandler'
Monica: 'If I can meet a great guy, so can you'
Phoebe (blatantly in the face of Monica rightfully calling Chandler a great guy): 'Yeah we both can. And we both will!' Chandler is a better man than Phoebe could dream of. And yet ironically? She did meet a guy about as close to later seasons Chandler as you can get, in David. And she passed him up for Mike the wang? And that's not discounting Paul Rudd's unsurpassable charisma that allowed Mike to stay as long as he did but Mike as a character was no way on David's level and yet Phoebe has the audacity to act like she has any kind of say in what does or doesn't make a good relationship, what does or doesn't make a good man? Insanity!
>Invites herself onto Monica and Chandler's anniversary trip then forces them to allow her to come, invites everyone else onto their trip then tells Chandler about Richard. That's not excusing Chandler of freaking out over less than nothing but Phoebe was the catalyst and began to do this constantly in between Monica and Chandler in the later seasons. It's a shame because Lisa Kudrow is actually hysterical, one of the most consistently hilarious actors in the show (And I think she was one of the ones that pushed Phoebe towards becoming nastier and angrier in the later episodes) but it is what it is. It's just one case of flanderisation that pops up as the show goes on.
Yap, that’s what she got after living with Rachel, mean and bitchness
Ikr? I mean I LOVE and adore Phoebe but my god ...she becomes so irritating from time to time. Chandler is easily one of the best characters out of all 6 and she would just act like he's this nobody?
@@areeanachowdhury9070 Yeah and I can't lie, the whole 'Monica was looking for Joey subplot' is one of the worst in the show in my opinion lmao. I despise when they pit the friends against each other. Joey smiles immediately upon hearing this but what about poor Chandler. He spent most of the show being in Joey's shadow with women then only a couple of times does he actually prove himself as a romantic partner over Joey, like with Kathy, Monica (Joey always makes jokey passes at her) or the Dutch girl and this just throws that right out the window. It's a really spiteful joke to Chandler in my opinion and another instance of Phoebe running her mouth against their relationship, which she was just nonstop for. I mean, at the end, Phoebe doesn't even apologise and actually just runs a hypothetical by them of what Joey and Monica as a couple would have actually been like. I mean, what the hell? Like I said in my opening post, they really up the whole 'Phoebe thinks the world of Joey more than the rest of the group and defends him incessantly no matter what scenario' which you didn't really have before about Season 5 or 6.
@@user-nv2wt4hi8t ifkr? I mean ofc it's just a show,
but I hate how some people just don't realize why that whole thing bothered Chandler so much. The man was FULL of insecurities and always thought of as "less than" so obviously he was extremely upset about that. Phoebe was GREAT at times but you just dont treat your friends like that
Remember this line " I'm so glad Chandler and monica got together..for him, she can do better though"
@@areeanachowdhury9070 Spot on! My thoughts exactly. The worst part to me is, when you re-watch, from Seasons 1-3 Phoebe and Chandler were two of the closest friends. They worked together, they broke up with their partners together, she consoled him when Janice broke up with him. Loads of stuff! Then you get to Season 4 and it kind of disappears. Then by Seasons 5-6 you start to see them push Joey and Phoebe as two of the closest, quirkiest friends and forget about Chandler and Phoebe being particularly close (beyond the engagement ring and a few other things) and instead have Phoebe either go straight for Chandler with derisive comments or target Monica and Chandler despite them being by far, in my opinion, the healthiest, sweetest relationship. It's really odd! Yeah Chandler is, in my opinion, the example of the absolute best character development. In seasons 1-4 he's pretty irreverent, a bit self sabotaging/self deprecating in his humor, very, very frightened of commitment. But as the show goes on and you get to around Seasons 7-10 (maybe even a bit earlier?) the guy absolutely takes control as possibly the most mature, most caring and most responsible member of the group. As the friends begin to become caricatures of themselves, Chandler bizarrely goes the opposite way for the most part to me (not always, e.g. the interview with the jokes and stuff like that) and becomes extremely dependable, so it's odd that they write most of the characters to view him as someone who's not quite there in terms of being respected or funny or attractive. Is what it is but it's not great upon re-watch.
Pheobe was a sweet heart in the beginning. First season pheobe was my favourite, she was kind and funny. But in the later seasons her funny-ness became cruel. She always insulted Chandler, also she created so many rifts between Chandler and Monica. Her character never developed it went way down the hill. She would ship toxic love like Rachel and Ross 's but belitte Mondler everytime. She became so toxic. Chandler is the only guy who turned out to be good and best when it comes to relationship. He's the best boyfriend and husband in the tv history. As a fan of chandler and Mondler, I really hated her in later seasons.
She is great u know nothing
i love her but she always tried messing up their relationship
Yes
Because she had a crush on monica.
@@Jahnavi4464 wtf
@@Jahnavi4464 that’s not even true
Phoebe was annoying, bossy, self-absorbed and consistently stirred up trouble among the friends but people love her because she was kooky and had a difficult past. And we wonder what's wrong with the world.
Phoebe is quirky, big-hearted and loveable for both of those things. But by God she never, ever learned how to read a room...
Ross: we were on a break
Phoebe: ill just mess with Monica and chandler
The problem is that Phoebe never felt guilty, sometimes i just wanna put the chili into her mouth
hah..
Phoebe is the one type of friend that nobody wants to have in their life!
Monica's fault
Except when you're pregnant and dont want others to know
She'll take the fall for you
@@kimayapanash8998yea she's good with Rachel not with Mon.
I agree, you like her as a character, but as a person you wouldn't wanna have her in your life.
Kinda like Micheal Scott (saying this before my fellow office fans come and kill me )
Phoebe gave the impression she low-key had it in for Chandler for some reason.
She even told Richard Monica had a lot of partners.
I hate the way she behaves especially towards Chandler
Really chandler ?? it’s her behaviour towards Ross that me dislike her a bit the evolution argument she was just so mean to him she even got him questioning himself and phoebe thought it was fun but I didn’t it was just pure callous
YES, me too
@@missjemma9978 Agree, towards both of them
Phoebe was jealous of them, that's why she said that stuff. I had female friends like that.
Then, they are not your friends...
Phoebe was never jealous.
Lol phoebe was never jealous you r so dumn
@@loulicious5882 Yes she was jealous
@@hernandez5579 she was definitely jealouss
I've always wanted to know Lisa Kudrow's thoughts on the way Phoebe was changed.
When you rewatch or binge watch the show, it's such a big and obvious change, a 180 almost (post triplets).
Anyone know if the cast, creators or writers have ever been asked about it? Has noone dared ask because they are afraid of seeming critical?
The cast was pretty powerful, so if I should guess, Lisa agreed to the change, sadly. I definitely didn't find Phoebe's sudden pettiness, meanness, and occasional self-pity funny.
I think towards the end of the series they exaggerated every characters flaws and made them less nuanced. Joey became overly stupid, Phoebe petty, Monica became too OTT, Chandler became too feminine and meek, Ross became too whiny and Rachel became to irritable
@@williamevans3327 Yeah but for the others, most of the times, they exaggerated traits they already had. They didn't outright change them, the way they did with Phoebe. The first seasons she was the opposite of petty and self-pitying. She was the generous hippie girl who was cleansing Ross's aura and just had a different take on things. She was honest and direct, but not in a hurtful way.
@@monmothma3358 YES!! Exactly!! Thank you, I've never heard anyone else mention this before. They totally changed her character, and definitely not for the better.
@@lizzy-wx4rx Glad you see it too! I heard a lot of people comment on the change, so that's definitely not just you and me. Just never heard anyone from the show talk about it.
Take when Paolo made a pass at Phoebe in season... 2? She brought milk and cookies to soothe the blow when she had to tell Rachel. Later seasons Phoebe never would have been that mindful of one of the other Friends' feelings.
@@monmothma3358 Perhaps if we see it in a realistic point of view, it makes sense, there are ppl irl that change for the worse. Sadly, they chose the most transparent and humble character to do that. However, I think they didn't change her with this thought in mind, they were just trying to make her "funnier" with darker humor.
It probably does not make sense to Phoebe that a relationship can be as easy, as the one between Monica and Chandler. Even when she meets Mike there is a lot of back and forth and complications, and thats the greatest sense of normal she has ever had
Yah mad at phoebe but why is Monica always lying to chandler?
Exactly
Fair, she did like 6 big lies worthy of breaking up, I think Chandler is really only at fault for one relationship ending issue (when he kissed another girl and monica opened the presents.) and that one was admitted and forgiven.
She goes to see Richard like 4 times in secret, which for me is a "bye bye Monica" moment.
Those weren't lies, they're secrets that would've just made Chandler insecure about their relationship. Monica was sparing him b/c those things were all superficial and didn't take away from how much she loved him. Phoebe as her best friend should've kept her mouth closed.
@@kyleellis9177 she didn't saw richard on purpose. she saw him on the street and as a respect she just had a meal with him. that's all, what's wrong with that?
Right??
I hate how Phoebe went from the nicest of the three female leads to being more mean and nasty, and treats Ross and Chandler horribly in later seasons. What happened to the old Phoebe who was so kind and sweet?
Ikr!!! Like did something happen offscreen, that we’re not aware of, that just made Phoebe have this deep hatred towards Ross and Chandler
@@superjackster0165 Something like what happening offscreen? You're thinking way too much into this.
I often got the impression that Phoebe kind of hated Chandler. He was a normal kind of guy and she is the crazy woman used to go with weirdos. I think she also was very jealous of the normalcy of Monica and Chandler as a couple, something she never had portrayed to her by her parents growing up and something she never pursued herself, until Mike. In fact, by marrying Mike, the most Chandler-like sort of person she ever was with, she got what she actually craved and was jealous of - a normal, "vanilla" relationship like Monica's and Chandler's. And she is mean to Monica many times too, like the rest of the group, teasing her ways while also enjoying free food and hospitality in her apartment all the time. Phoebe is actually the most boring, artificial and often hypocritical of the friends, acting like she has so many principles and constantly acting against that whenever it suited her. She used the group of friends to appear like the quirky and eccentric "special" one because the rest of them were regular people with regular lives not trying to look anything different.
Phoebe is one of the " Woke " people right now
I am missing Chandler so much.He was such a gentleman 😔😔
If this was a drama, I feel like Phoebe definitely would have gotten smacked a few times because of her big mouth.
interesting how phoebe always made jokes about or belittled monica and chandlers relationship, but she was such a supporter of ross and rachels toxic mess. gotta wonder if thats just how they ended up writing it or if it was an intentional choice for whatever reason.
Exactly!! Like why is she a die hard supporter of Ross and Rachel, but she absolutely despises Monica and Chandler? It’s infuriating how the show never answered that question
@@superjackster0165probably she envied Monica and Chandler's healthy stable relationship so she stirred up trouble.
“You told him about the Richard thing” is probably the best 🤣🤣🤣
Phoebe is always trying to break up Monica and Chandler. I hate that she doesn't support them and wants to destroy their relationship. I never understand what she has against them being together. They're a wonderful couple, but she's too big of an ass to see it😠😡
Jealousy.
There's a fan theory that Phoebe did all these things to sabotage Chandler and Monica because she was in love with him. Obvs not true but it's interesting to think about when watching these clips
i doubt it because if that was the case i’m sure she would have lashed out her hatred towards monica for stealing chandler. even before they started dating, phoebe seemed to enjoy making fun of chandler. so maybe after monica _did_ start dating chandler, phoebe thought he wasn’t good enough for monica or something? maybe that’s why she was looking to sabotage their relationship
True but Phoebe is also kinda scatter-brained
@@nicole.24 I don’t think she ever really wanted them to end their relationship
I heard a theory she did it because she loved HER.
She saw his bank account during wedding planning and wanted him for herself, knowing how easy he'd be to control via love (cause of all his issues)
I mean she forced herself to be on a trip when obviously it's Mondler's anniversary then invite Ross and Rachel over. If she did that with me and my gf, man I will remove her out of our lives.
You are the queen of everything is such an underrated line!
Love this. have watched Friends so many times, never caught this as a series of events
Please somebody tell me what is wrong with sun-dried tomatoes. ..
Nothing. They just went out of fashion with foodies at that point.
Pheobe was the worst friend out of the 6, no contest. She was funny but definitely not a good friend.
I think she was fine but changed.Espacially after season 3?ı guess
Even if Phoebe was the one to tell those secrets, why aren't people questioning Monica's choices on those decisions??? She did things and knew Chandler wouldn't be alr wit it and still did it, like even if Phoebe could of ruined the relationship at least in a way she told him. If Phoebe is getting hate for saying secrets Monica should be for the same reason for having those secrets in the first place.
At of all the people on Friends, Chandler never had a birthday party. That so 😥
I don't think he liked his birthday. Chandler's character arch is i believe that he got scarred by his family with some specific events. Thanksgiving, birthday and I think Christmas.
Well, there was an episode where they played a flashback for like 5 seconds of Chandler's birthday with stupid joey crying while saying "and now, Chandler" lol it was funny and stupid but, nonetheless, the closest thing we got to seeing an episode of it being Chandler's birthday!
Yeah Rach had about 7 🤣
Lmao 😂😂😂😝😝😝👌👌👌
Did Ross ever have one?
And they resolved all of these and grew together!
Phoebe needs to learn how to keep her mouth shut! 😂😝👌
It was always phoebe creating conflicts 😀
Yea the no:1 almost broke them apart if it wasn't for Joey's beautiful speech 🤧😖
And also the engagement ring disaster and when she told Chandler and David that Monica always say Richard's name that one was kind of Monica's fault but still!
tha one? kind of?
you are delusional
@@Szobiz so what are you saying? What's your opinion? Yes i love this show and i don't hate the character Pheobe , I'm just commenting something about this video that i can understand about ....why do you have to call me delusional? you don't even know me 🤷🏻♀️ well i bet you're so perfect and flawless huh??
Speaking of no:1, it makes no sense how Phoebe could possibly know what Monica was really thinking that night anyway. She wasn't even in London with the gang because she was pregnant. This absurdity was never even pointed out, especially since Chandler naively believed her without even asking how she would know that. And Phoebe only claimed Monica says Richard's name to cover up her own mistake of calling David "Mike" by accident, not because she was trying to break up Monica and Chandler again. That's why it's not listed here
Later in seasons little things like these and sudden changes in characters behaviour really pissed me off tbh
The show was supposed to end after season 8 but the network kept renewing them so they had to find dumb storylines to keep it going.
It’s so obvious that Phoebe hated Monica and Chandler’s relationship and secretly tried to break it up. Like I legitimately want to know the explanation for that. What did they both do to piss her off so much?
so obvious? she would say it openly in their faces, genius
they didn't do anything, she rly thinks their relationship is great, for chandler.
Maybe she was jealous because she wanted Chandler for herself.
@@nancytrowbridge3085 such an analysis🤦
She was jealous of their healthy romantic relationship and wanted to stir up trouble with them.
So either Phoebe has the biggest mouth or she’s literally trying to sabotage their relationship on purpose.
Probably the latter
Matthew Perry looks the most aged among them today...despite him being the 2nd youngest..
And Courteney simply had to destroy her beautiful.. gorgeous face with surgery!!!
So sad to see one of the best TV couples in such a tragic state!
his death has hit me the hardest as it was so unexpected even though i never met him he was a big part of making me laugh the most im so sorry this happened to a beautiful soul sleep tight and R.I.P matthew the whole world is absolutely devastated beyond words💔💔💔 we really have lost an icon
Ik, for some reason, his death hit me hard too. Robin Williams too.
Phoebe's disrespect towards Chandler was always unacceptable. And it's crazy how they kept her all thoses years in the friends group even when she clearly hated Chandler, Ross and always thought about herself in the first place. She only tolerated Joey because she was attracted to him
Bro chill
Pheobe is the worst friend. I hate her
It’s not almost she did it, and she shows she doesn’t care not even remorse about how Chandler feels
Monica enjoyed stripper on her bachelor party, went for a bite with ex after getting married, went back to Richard for consolement after Chandler told her he didnt want to have babies and flirted with stranger in front of her fiance. Great partner.
Monica shouldn't be eating with her ex and then hiding it from her husband nor hiding secrets from Chandler
Relax miemi
hey so firstly she simply didnt want to ruin her anniversary ..... cz she knew chandler wont like it .... she herself said that she'll tell chandler post anniversary. but naaah phoebe has to get in, do shit and then act oblivious . lastly i would never like a friend who breaks the girl code and sleeps with my ex(go watch that episode where rachel gets her first paycheck as a waitress)
"You are the queen of everything"
"Thanks, so are you"
😂
Am I the only one surprised (not to say "chocked") to realize how Monica treats Chandler like shit sometimes, while he always cares of her so much? I mean I already had thought that at some points when watching the show but this video kind of makes it clear.
I always thought the perfect line for Chandler when Phoebe said I didn't know you were going to be here, and Chandler would say " We're always here" in his Chandler Bing anxious voice
Chandler always tried to make Monics happy. But Phoebe somehow she ruined it
monica did all those things to herself.
Phoebe was not letting go of losing one of her back ups to Monica.
Oh that's a good point!
Phoebe's lack of sensitivity is unbelievable 🤦♀️
I’ve been saying for years that Phoebe was the WORST friend.
Why was Phoebe always against Monica and Chandler getting together which are the healthiest couple in the show but always pushed for Ross and Rachel to get together who in my opinion shouldn't have gotten back together at the end
Better question: Why did Monica have so many secrets and keep things from her partner/husband?
Finally!! Thank God someone else noticed this and how horrible Phoebe was as friend
Or how horrible Monica was as a partner. Why does she keep so many secrets from Chandler? She had a bachelorette party and lunch with her ex and didn't tell him.
Phoebe needs to think before she speaks
Phoebe always treated chandler poorly
I always hated Phoebe because she could get away with so much since she was the "crazy" character, everyone just forgave her like saying "oh that's just how she is". She ruined so much stuff.
OF COURSE, number 1 HAD to be that scene. That was terrible, terrible, terrible of her.
Sometimes I wonder why they're friends with her.
Phoebe always ruins things 🤦♀️
Yeah but pheobe also helped with the proposal so it's okay
Imagine Joey getting married, how will the bachelorette look like then? 😂
Moral of the story is dont tell phoebe your secrets haha
But what she said was true only 😏 Why Monica was even lying to Chandler?
That last look "What" from phoebe?? 😀 So cute...
Chandler was always too good for Monica… he didn’t realize that because oh, well, she was a pretty lady into him. He has a lot of low self esteem, which kept him in place… but it’s not just that, he’s got morals, loyalty and just a one of a kind man. Can’t find another man like chandler, she’s not loyal, probably would have even cheated if she had the chance. I never could stand the woman in this show, or the guys expect for chandler.
There’s a deleted scene from “The One Where the stripper cries” where Monica called a stripper cause she was lonely when Chandler was in Tulsa 😡
Love her 😂❤
Only number 2 feels really kind of mean-spirited. The rest just feels like Phoebe being scatterbrained and a bit too honest.
'Somebody stop me' the mask reference.
Hated Phoebe at this moments...
Forgive the text or any poorly expressed speech, I'm from Brazil and I'm using Google Translate, I'm a huge fan of the series, a huge fan of Chandler. You know what's worse? TOTALLY free. It's not because Chandler treated her badly, it's not because Monica treated her badly. NOBODY treated her badly (maybe Ross sometimes, but more due to differences in belief and thought, but always maintaining respect). It seems like a need to want to be the center of attention in the most pathetic way a person is determined to do. There are two Phoebe's in the series, from Season 1 to a not very specific moment in Season 5; the really funny Phoebe, the one who really helps with positive advice, the one who is willing to do everything FOR THE GOOD of her friends, who didn't need to attract attention in a flashy way from others. And the other, A character who needed to humiliate, despise, who already forced himself to be "funny", who needed to pose challenges in a healthy relationship as we had this displeasure in seeing (not the video itself, but the moments in the series specifically) , and the most notable thing is that when she definitely started to be like this from Season 6 onwards, everyone looked at her after another "funny" moment of hers and thought "no, leave it alone, it's Phoebe, she has to have this moment ". How can a character regress like that? I don't know, I just think it was unnecessary because Phoebe was an excellent character in the first seasons. I appreciate Mike for having the patience and managing to pull off this pathetic return that was Phoebe for several Seasons, he revived that Phoebe from the beginning of the series, added to the maturity of the life that she SHOULD have had but preferred to waste time with nonsense. But what leaves me most amazed despite these moments, was that Chandler, Mônica, Joey, Rachel and Ross were ALWAYS there with her, never retorting or anything, like showing "you mistreated us several times, you didn't make the slightest effort to help us take away from bad or embarrassing moments, but we won't repay you with the same coin, because the moment you actually stop wasting time acting like a toxic idiot, we'll be there with you", like, honoring the main theme of the series.
Phoebe is Not a good friends
Monica gets mad at Chandler for not being "truthful" w/her about her massages, yet every one of these scenarios is her hiding the truth or lying.. thats why Phoebe did it, she's checking Monica & it is grand.
Ok, Friends is an excelent TV Show but this video shows us how the writters were lazy at times. They just needed a device (Phoebe, the quirky person of the group) to create a temporary drama between Monica and Chandler that would be solved at the end of the episode, and they dit it at least 5 times. The one who suffers from this is, of course, Phoebe who becomes so nasty Season 6 onwards. I like Phoebe as much I like all the other five, but there are some lines that she delivers that are straight up just insulting and "that's what makes it funny" the writters thought back them, again a lazy and honestly horrible way to work on her character
If I remember correctly, they had a writer’s strike; it WAS lazy writing.
If you want to get a divorce or want to feel miserable call up your friend Phoebus she'll make it happen!
Toxic friend she is!
Having phoebe as friend is same as having an enemy.
Pheobe had the most glaring and radical change as a character. As others in the comment have said all the other friends changed but the they just their characteristics ratcheted up to 1000 but Pheobe drastically changed. She became selfish, petty and sometimes outright cruel. She went from being the kindest of the group to the meanest.
"Simons, go with Simons"
"London 1"
she’s the worst friend
She does resolve things in vegas by finding chandler to talk to him.. but yeah she sabotages a lot.
I love the way phoebe says ohh no 😂 i always say it that way because her
This is why Phoebe is 100% my least favorite character out of the 6
Why did writers always give pheobe those kinda dialogues😢