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  • @Ron742_
    @Ron742_ 21 день тому +178

    "we noticed illari rose to a 2% pick rate after the last buff. We thought that was a little too high. In order to have her where we want her, she will be nerfed and back down under 2% pick rate." -Devs

  • @TheYoyo369
    @TheYoyo369 22 дні тому +191

    illari feels like the genii of the support role… Just build your Ult as fast as possible and then whiff or 5k 😂

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +12

      Also gets nerfed for reason

    • @jhester23
      @jhester23 21 день тому +9

      Accurate

    • @vitow9181
      @vitow9181 14 днів тому

      @@brkctrl genji is nerfed?

    • @breaknet
      @breaknet 13 днів тому

      @@vitow9181 nerf genji is a meme for a reason

  • @vinny_s
    @vinny_s 22 дні тому +160

    Man, Illari's gameplay loop felt so smooth and so fun after the buffs in season 9
    I have no idea why they'd nerf it because it didn't make her good-similarly to the Symm buffs they took away in the span of 0.25 seconds. Like who are these nerfs catering for? Cause those two weren't an issue in plat/diamond.

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому +64

      Cause they dont know what the hell they're doing, Lifeweaver buffs are the perfect example of why. Just buffing random ish in the kit in hoping that it works seems to be their gameplan atp.

    • @vinny_s
      @vinny_s 22 дні тому +13

      ​@JustAnotherTwink At this point they wanna fill out the patch notes to make it seem like they're being proactive
      (I like your name btw)

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому

      @@vinny_s I wouldn't put it past them in this day and age lol (Thank you I like your cat but I think he has something to say)

    • @GoldenDeer_
      @GoldenDeer_ 22 дні тому +6

      @@JustAnotherTwinkfr. I said the buffs they were talking about better not be anything with healing numbers….and here we are. I say they should nerf heals to 70, make them charge faster, and make it if you charge to 50-60/70 then it blasts to allies so he has pseudo aoe. Then make it so the change from primary and secondary is faster, and make it so doing damage makes you charge heal faster. Then nerf tree ult cost

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому +5

      @@GoldenDeer_ I mean anything is better than what they have now, they’ve buffed him a million times and it’s still not working. But he’s new, and they’re stubborn so he prob won’t be getting any sort of rework until way in the future, ntm the fact that they have about 2-3 other, older characters that they’re going to “rework” first. I mean they can barely even make a game mode anymore, just 5 different ways to capture the same point. Blizzard lost it a whiiiile ago but like I genuinely don’t understand how a dev team can get buffs and nerfs this wrong.

  • @Liam-mv9zi
    @Liam-mv9zi 22 дні тому +160

    I still remember when they changed how long you have to charge to one shot with Widowmaker… that was years ago I think and I STILL do the old timing sometimes. Muscle memory is stronk 😅

    • @anettelma123
      @anettelma123 22 дні тому

      I assume now you have to wait longer? how much longer +-? just curious

    • @ELITE_AG
      @ELITE_AG 22 дні тому +1

      @@anettelma123 its barely noticeable

    • @heartcoma
      @heartcoma 22 дні тому +4

      @@ELITE_AG Actually it's more of a 3 tap now than a 2 tap, it feels annoying.

    • @Liam-mv9zi
      @Liam-mv9zi 22 дні тому +3

      @@anettelma123 It’s only a fraction of a second, if I had to guess probably .2-ish?? Enough though that if I’m heavily pressured I’ll revert to the old timing because it was just faster

    • @andrewright4370
      @andrewright4370 21 день тому +4

      @@anettelma123 - Scoped full charge from 0.75s to 0.9s. thats a lot!

  • @adamsteiff98
    @adamsteiff98 21 день тому +40

    The Illari fire rate nerf hit WAY harder than anyone thought.
    Her damage potential was already dwindling after the HP buffs.
    And now they go after her damage again without appropriately adjusting her Utility value.
    Damage is her only real value.
    She isn’t baptize who can pump out damage and mass burst and aoe healing simultaneously and save your entire team with one button.
    She isn’t Moira who can also mass burst heal and live practically forever.

    • @lufka3267
      @lufka3267 19 днів тому

      She is support. Not dps

    • @adamsteiff98
      @adamsteiff98 14 днів тому +4

      @@lufka3267 yes, but she’s a support with no support capabilities. All other supports provide healing/ some other support.
      Damage boost, discord orb, speed boost, anti heal, mass cleanse, Baptiste lamp, life grip.
      Her support besides healing is supposed to be damage. But they nerfed that away.
      If Baptiste can do more damage and healing with multiple forms of burst aoe healing and arguably the best support ability with lamp.
      They can easily do more for Illari.

  • @heartcoma
    @heartcoma 21 день тому +30

    Them making her damage based and then her primary being nerfed because anyone who falls to a support with a bruised ego complains too much.

    • @barbariangamin5136
      @barbariangamin5136 13 днів тому +1

      But they buff kiri lmao what rocks are they smoking

  • @name-tx5qu
    @name-tx5qu 22 дні тому +40

    I have no clue why the devs keep giving illari a buff but then nerfing her when they’ve had no issue reverting buffs before

    • @haku4841
      @haku4841 22 дні тому

      They 1/3rd reverted the buff and trust me the healing buff is more impactful in lower ranks as now you heal 345 per charge vs 315 that 30health clutches up so much it’s still interesting that they chose to semi revert I’d say it’s like a net neutral or very slight buff if you heal alot on illari and don’t play her like pure dps

    • @plsno2905
      @plsno2905 21 день тому +2

      ​@@haku4841 But the healing can't even be sustained for a long time... You can barely heal effectively, and most of the time it's spent on a tank. Not saying she's a shit character now, I'm saying the nerf to her shots was so unnecessary. Could've just buffed the healing and left it at that.

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +1

      @@haku4841why would you play illari to heal? There are better healers for that. She has no utility and getting kills is her only job in the game.

    • @breaknet
      @breaknet 13 днів тому

      @@haku4841if you heal a lot you are not supposed to play illari? She has no utility, her damage is all she has. Other supports either provide more reliable healing or more utility

  • @sideeswipe
    @sideeswipe 21 день тому +18

    The healing buff wasn’t enough to offset the damage nerf they should’ve buffed it back to 120 HPS and then made the resource gauge last longer

    • @chkensammich
      @chkensammich 21 день тому +6

      Right if you're going to sacrifice her dmg charge for heals at least make it a real buff and not 10hps LMAOOO

  • @just_matt3937
    @just_matt3937 21 день тому +32

    Blizzard: The support role is enjoyable? We can't have that 😈

  • @marinary1326
    @marinary1326 21 день тому +8

    It took nobody any time to get used to the rhythm of her shooting with the s9 buffs, it was just right... she's the support that they made to get dps players to play support, did it work too well?

  • @e.b.9702
    @e.b.9702 21 день тому +7

    This hero can't catch a break... I was just getting used to her fire-rate. But i am definitely dropping her now, there is no way i will play her in this state and in this meta.

  • @GarnetDust24
    @GarnetDust24 19 днів тому +3

    Why is the cooldown for a damaged pylon the same as a destroyed one? Doesn’t make sense.

    • @crowquet56
      @crowquet56 18 днів тому

      Yeah that's so weird to me, I feel like it needs to be halved if you take your pylon down before it's fully destroyed

  • @JustAnotherTwink
    @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому +27

    "Just pick one and adjust other numbers" make this man a dev cause he clearly has more of a clue how game balance works than the actual dev team.

  • @kdnmore
    @kdnmore 21 день тому +2

    The Illari nerf feels pretty bad to play with. The old tempo felt so smooth and responsive, now it feels like I'm waiting for my shots

  • @mikejowan3340
    @mikejowan3340 22 дні тому +4

    She already got a nerf in season 9 by the fact that she doesnt prok the dps passive and her healing is reduced by it, why I get they would want to up her healing numbers but I dont get why they would lower her dps when thats the only reason you'd pick her

  • @iFINNIX
    @iFINNIX 21 день тому +2

    I wish they would have just lowered her damage ever so slightly than messing with fire rates

  • @isaiah5833
    @isaiah5833 22 дні тому +6

    I hate it, I hate it so damn much, I HATE IT!!!

  • @TheSwiftDJ105
    @TheSwiftDJ105 21 день тому +2

    +range on the healing would be super nice, maybe as a compensation 5% or so increase on ult cost. or just... revert this change lol

    • @kalilimba9347
      @kalilimba9347 20 днів тому +1

      Increase range, but decrease healing the further from the target you are?

  • @-L1K-
    @-L1K- 21 день тому +1

    I agree man, I dunno why they keep messing with her. She was fun again last season but now they made her less fun again. Someone at Team 4 hates her. They are so damn clueless on what makes Illari fun and effective.

  • @bobbillblue
    @bobbillblue 21 день тому

    I think if they gave illaris beam a HoT effect, like moira, even if it was kinda weak/short, would be way better then just buffing her raw healling output, cause it would make it so she can deal with chip dmg better and would give her more time to deal dmg, also holding her beam for a long time is really frustrating cause you most likely will lose healling since no one stands still to get healled(whtch the HoT would help aleviate, cause you could just heal in short bursts then let the HoT do the rest). But i might be completely wrong here, im kinda new to the game, just saying how i feel.

  • @babiebubbless8438
    @babiebubbless8438 22 дні тому +11

    why'd they nerf her primary anyway?

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому +9

      Cause they dont know what the hell they're doing, Lifeweaver buffs are the perfect example of why. Just buffing random ish in the kit in hoping that it works seems to be their gameplan atp.

    • @vinny_s
      @vinny_s 22 дні тому

      They just have ballots during the season patches and pick a random bitch to nerf to make it seem like they know what they are doing because they have no idea who to nerf/buff (It has to be because how can a group of people be this dumb???)

    • @Merui021
      @Merui021 22 дні тому +1

      I think it's because they're making her healing stronger. Give her more heals but take away some of her damage. Illari is such a damage-centric support though so welp >>

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому +10

      @@Merui021 that’s the main issue lmao, they keep making characters and then changing things abt them that are completely counterintuitive to the way THEY made the character. Like the saying goes, to be a fly on the wall when it happened, except I think I might’ve gotten sexually assaulted if I was a fly on blizzards walls :(

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +2

      @@Merui021which is funny because they made the dps passive to lower overall healing in the game. At this point I think AI can do a better job than these devs. They lack any common sense.

  • @kio2960
    @kio2960 21 день тому +2

    She needed a buff not a NERF. WHAT ARE THESE "DEVS"???

  • @REllEZ_
    @REllEZ_ 21 день тому

    I think a cool little tech would be nice. Maybe she recovers one full shot after reload

  • @prateek9386
    @prateek9386 21 день тому +1

    This nerf is kinda pointless idk why they nerfed her even though she wasn't anywhere to be seen in the game bruh

  • @sentral1219
    @sentral1219 22 дні тому

    They should make her heal / sec 510 instead of 115 since it design to be “No You Will Not DIE!!!” Beam (ngl that would be kinda broken :P )

  • @d00mnoodle62
    @d00mnoodle62 21 день тому +1

    One of my least favorite changes ever, i LOVE illari, one of my absolute favorite characters in any game ever, i just wanna have her be good :(

  • @Jamie-rr1mt
    @Jamie-rr1mt 21 день тому

    stuff like this just makes me sad

  • @cliad
    @cliad 21 день тому +2

    Did she need this nerf? It kinda feels like she hasn't been a strong pick for a while anyway. I haven't played Illari much at all after her release nor I have seen her being played often, so the question is genuine.

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +1

      They just wanted a random hero to touch for the patch

  • @ZyZyZzzZ
    @ZyZyZzzZ 22 дні тому +6

    mL7: they are supports not healers.
    OW been trying to tell mL7: they are actually healers not supports.

  • @kokirilink
    @kokirilink 19 днів тому

    🎶 I don’t want to support my tank 🎶

  • @Snakestube
    @Snakestube 9 днів тому

    I think this character sucks. Her ultimate should be able to go through shields Again because there are too many ways to counter it. her bounce cool down should be on four seconds. Lastly, If they don’t want to change her tempo her damage should be set at 80 per shot. Her temp should go back to .2

  • @sugaaluver
    @sugaaluver 18 днів тому

    I noticed that she is definitely a top pick in metal ranks, you'll probably have at least one in a match

    • @breaknet
      @breaknet 13 днів тому

      No she isn’t

  • @RudeXII
    @RudeXII 22 дні тому +4

    I mean its pretty obvious blizzard has no clue what theyre doing

  • @wesleyzealand2795
    @wesleyzealand2795 21 день тому

    Lol it only refused the minimum charge, at least that's how I read the patch notes and what I noticed, pls correct me if your certain

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому

      It takes longer for that meter to get to full so you have to wait longer between shots if you want full damage. That with the increased hp everyone has made illari useless.

  • @yuri_8368
    @yuri_8368 21 день тому

    The changes for illari are useless, is "like" they reverted the rate fire of her gun

  • @Waffl3B1T
    @Waffl3B1T 22 дні тому +1

    Yeah she did >.

  • @anettelma123
    @anettelma123 22 дні тому +1

    its shame, imo its strong nerf!

  • @TankMAIN877
    @TankMAIN877 22 дні тому +1

    Yeh i switched to life weaver Illari sucks now.

  • @jirou6228
    @jirou6228 21 день тому +1

    Blizzard make me a 1000hrs+ sp main to become a tank and dps main lol 😂 what with them nerft sp left and right ? Illari and sp in general is so unfun in this meta now

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому

      Tanks are suffering too

    • @Chazza-01
      @Chazza-01 20 днів тому

      One character gets nerfed and now you can't play support? Lmao Just play DPS solely if you wanted to DPS. Picking support to just do damage all the time is a little sus.

  • @finnnnnnlol3650
    @finnnnnnlol3650 22 дні тому +19

    MAKE SYM A SUPPORT

    • @fightorflight2279
      @fightorflight2279 22 дні тому +2

      That's what I've been wanting for a while

    • @xoxi306
      @xoxi306 22 дні тому +1

      hell no

    • @JustAnotherTwink
      @JustAnotherTwink 22 дні тому

      Speaking to my soul

    • @craigwolfe249
      @craigwolfe249 21 день тому

      That's why they made illari after a experimental that made sym heal

    • @finnnnnnlol3650
      @finnnnnnlol3650 21 день тому +1

      @@craigwolfe249 healing turrets were an awful idea. I would prefer changing her beam to a lock-on healing beam whose healing increases over time.

  • @user-eo4it2rn1f
    @user-eo4it2rn1f 22 дні тому +2

    wait doesnt her change just make the time u can fire again a bit slower. no one charges it for 0.25 and fire anyways. it doesnt say the charge time is slower no? i am still haunted by the mercy changes. before it was so smooth, the ga are 1.5 plus 1 second if u ga the whole thing, a lot skill expression. now they fix it a bit but it still doesnt feel as smooth and why backward ga is nerf, im still confuse. the s3 mercy healing changes felt so good, everyone expect it to be nerf like half but the dev jsut remove it completely. :( maybe they can also make a change, u can dmg boost and heal but at 40% of the effectiveness like the april fools, could be fun

    • @larry8437
      @larry8437 22 дні тому +6

      the charge time is added to the time to begin charging, so overall fire rate it slower. as a support that primarily creates value by being a pocket cassidy, it was just an unnecessary nerf.

    • @user-eo4it2rn1f
      @user-eo4it2rn1f 21 день тому +2

      @@larry8437 ohhh the moment u can fire is when it starts charging

    • @larry8437
      @larry8437 21 день тому +3

      @@user-eo4it2rn1f Yeah, basically it was a damage potential nerf to a character that only works because of damage viability.

    • @user-eo4it2rn1f
      @user-eo4it2rn1f 21 день тому +2

      @@larry8437 just played ow2, it feels so much slower. before it was smooth as butter but now the butter is in the freezer

    • @larry8437
      @larry8437 21 день тому +1

      @@user-eo4it2rn1f Yeah, i miss that smooth, almost music beat feeling too. Illari and venture still give me that feeling tho.

  • @fractalelf7760
    @fractalelf7760 22 дні тому +6

    For Gods sake she works when her turret is stronger, put the turret back where it was when she was introduced…

    • @imperialdra-mon5907
      @imperialdra-mon5907 22 дні тому

      that's the worst idea ever I play illari 90% of the time on supportt and the pilon was opppppppp

    • @1DanteadamS1
      @1DanteadamS1 22 дні тому +1

      Not enough autopiloting, make her whole character an aimbotting ai that makes the player spectate.

    • @fractalelf7760
      @fractalelf7760 22 дні тому +3

      @@1DanteadamS1 That would be Moira.

    • @kpkazan
      @kpkazan 21 день тому

      How many more years is it gonna take for people to stop saying Moira has autoaim lol

  • @nadirbn5199
    @nadirbn5199 22 дні тому +3

    Why the video on 2x

  • @bear-qe7ep
    @bear-qe7ep 20 днів тому

    Too many balls in this video tbh

  • @craigwolfe249
    @craigwolfe249 22 дні тому +2

    I actually think she's better overall, i been playing her loads since launch and i feel the healing buff means you can heal a tank properly now, i used to have to change if there wasn't enough healer but feel she's able to do proper heals

    • @sinye2047
      @sinye2047 22 дні тому +11

      you literally just heal 30hp more than before.... and thats just one pulse of the pylon, if the tank will die bc of this 30hp in 3s, he will die with ana+bap spaming on him

    • @fuwameanssoft
      @fuwameanssoft 22 дні тому +7

      Illari works best when there is another Support that can handle the majority of the tank heals, letting her do damage with her primary fire. If you play Illari with a Lucio or Mercy, yeah, you’re gonna struggle to keep the tank alive lol

    • @chkensammich
      @chkensammich 21 день тому

      ​@@sinye204710hp
      It's 105 -> 115
      It's a net nerf

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +2

      Then why not just play the other supports? Who can heal better and has utility. Illari’s only utility is dealing damage. They are taking that away.

  • @Zell8158
    @Zell8158 21 день тому

    Forget all of this we need to keep venture FOR the love of GOD

  • @paniniloaf9126
    @paniniloaf9126 21 день тому

    I like how he placebo'd himself into thinking the charge-rate changed, it's very confusing wording but it was her spam-firerate that got nerfed, the charge rate is the same

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому +2

      It takes longer for the meter to get full

  • @MrJay1026
    @MrJay1026 22 дні тому

    Her charge rate didn't change at all, the fire rate did meaning how fast she can shoot immediately again at the lowest charge. It feels different because of that fire rate increase making it slightly longer to wait for the full charge is all. She does the same amout of damage per shot as before like this overall was a buff to her since only bad players were firing her gun asap instead of charging it.

    • @chkensammich
      @chkensammich 21 день тому

      Uhhh sometimes you just need a 30-40dmg shot to finish someone off
      This IS an overall damage nerf

    • @brkctrl
      @brkctrl 21 день тому

      Time to kill is a thing. The time to kill increased, doesn’t matter if they have same damage. People escape with low no more often now.

  • @elpapisaint
    @elpapisaint 22 дні тому +1

    So she's back to being balanced

    • @imperialdra-mon5907
      @imperialdra-mon5907 22 дні тому +13

      bronze comment

    • @larry8437
      @larry8437 22 дні тому +12

      so we're in copper.

    • @sinye2047
      @sinye2047 22 дні тому +6

      the same kind of ppl yell sup diff and blame illari in his team

    • @kpkazan
      @kpkazan 21 день тому +1

      Implies she was OP to begin with which she hasn't been strong for ages

  • @robinhedlundkarlsson5184
    @robinhedlundkarlsson5184 22 дні тому

    Nerfed for a reason!

    • @strangeways043
      @strangeways043 22 дні тому +20

      bait used to be believable

    • @kpkazan
      @kpkazan 21 день тому +1

      Same reason they do those really meaningful Lifeweaver changes 😂