I would like to see a comment section added to the in-sim marketplace. I’m interested in reading the comments from people who buy an add-on (specifically aircraft) and give it a one star while a vast majority of people give it a four or five star rating. Even when I was flying on the Xbox, I stayed clear of the offerings from certain developers, although I did buy a couple of 777s from the Captain due to there not being much offerings of airliners at the time. Lessons learned though. Edit: After much thought, I think the marketplace should be somewhat similar to an eBay marketplace where if you’re going to give a seller a one star, you should give them a chance to fix the issue before you give them a negative review. However, given the backlog for updates to products already released, this might not be a good idea. I was looking at some add on airports and doing some math to see how many consumers were marking a product either a one or two star rating. The overall numbers were still low compared to four or five star ratings. The ones that stood out to me were airports that were rather large in file size (one had a 10 gigabyte file size), so I wonder if the simmers who are experiencing problems are on the Series S (for instance) or an older PC that has a hard time keeping up graphically with those airports. It doesn’t justify the two or one star ratings, but if it is a hardware limitation, then the simmer needs to be honest about that in a review comment.
Shane, total agreement with this assessment. Bottom line is that MScenery just doesn't cut it. To be fair, many of their flight models were early additions to the MS2020. My problem with them is that they never seem to improve their offerings. Thanks for this!
… after I bought two planes from them (MScenery), one accidentally because I got it mixed up with the MiG 15 from Bear Simulation, I'm just going to name the company „MISERY“ !
Fun video. I'm impressed at how much detail even the lowest rated planes have. Those cockpits looked way better than I expected. Thanks for the showcase.
Hit right on target! I don't even know why Microsoft allows MScenery products on their page. To this day, they do not have any single products worth to buy.
Absolutely Zenon..But people buy them..think Shane hit the nail on the head when he says geared towards an arcade flyer using an Xbox controller with the Skyhawk.
Hi Shane, great video like always. Is great to see someone that can evaluate a product that is not very good and say it honestly but still be respectfull to the people that created that product.
WoW Aus Flight Simmer takes dedication to take the hit for the community. Given they have to be approved The EuroFighter is a shocker.. But the Capt Sim really isnt a plane. I would like to see a Zero Stars level to properly reflect the rubbish standard of some of these.
Thanks for the info Shane. I don’t personally mind that they are on the store, however I don’t think MS scenery should be able to get away with saying “highly detailed model”. It should be completely transparent and I agree with you, that inclusion of a comments section in the store could help with that.
@@AusFlightSimmer it absolutely will, if you’re streaming on Sunday I’ll try and fly along. I’ve not been able to get on the Sim for a bit and am looking forward to a flight with everyone.
That YF-23 isnt even anything like the real world one. the real world one had no forward control surfaces (like the angle up ones in ms scenery one. it also had different shape vericle stabilisers
@@tedm123 Then it should have been released as the NATF-23, not the YF-23. The Naval version only exists as drawings and concepts, while the YF-23 actually flew; even if only 2 prototypes.
@@tedm123I’m pretty sure it’s worse than that, the external model seems to just be a botch job of what started life as an F-35 model, seeing as the nose and wing angles seem similar and it has none of the smooth profiling of the real life YF-23. Long and short, the model is utter low quality cash grab garbage…
For some reason, they modeled the proposed/never built Naval variant of the F-23. The exterior is actually not bad and looks like the drawings I've seen. The cockpit is hilariously bad. Gotta love the Russian ejection seat! (which they also used in their Typhoon!) This is heartbreaking, because I'm a huge fanboy of the F-23. I'd love to fly the Air Force and Naval versions in MSFS, but this is so poorly executed that I can't consider it.
Ok, there were a few aircraft’s on the list I was considering buying but then I came across MScenery. I think myself and others are going to stay far away from them. There were some planes on this list that I was looking at but thanks to you, your video helped me
Great idea AFS! Probably save lots of potential buyers the disappointment at wasting their hard earned $$.$$ on them so its a nice little service you made for this video!!! Wwhat a huge task it would be to weed out all of msfs2020's flops though!!! Great job!! Thanks and Cheers mate!!
It’s funny how they all are military aircraft. Just hope the real world models are better, LOL! I enjoyed the video. I personally do not fly military aircraft. I have no interest in them. But it’s great having these reviewed for those enthusiasts who enjoy these type of aircraft. Good job sir.
I respect your views, but owning a flight simulator, who wouldn't want to fly the F 16 Viper? I feel like a test pilot every time I get in it. Yes, the bush strips in PNG are fun in something like the Cessna 208, but zipping along at 600 knots and trying basic aerobatics gets the blood going, even if I haven't mastered the weapons or my landings. The downside is the added expenses of a different platform and the module itself, which are considerable. Cheers and happy flying!
Not gonna lie, I'm really surprised the Bredok 737 didn't make this list. I can only imagine how much of a dumpster fire these "aircraft" must be if they're worse.
Bredok has a target market. MSFS are eyed by civil airliner simmer and newbies alike. That's why there is a huge bias against low quality military planes than airliners. At least with Bredok737MAX, you can fool a lot of close friends and families, claiming that it is "close to the real thing" just like some of local yappy streamers.
As a long time if not lifelong simmer, I am appalled by the quality of some of the products on the MSFS store. It's unbelievable that no first party review takes place before putting it up there. I swear you could find much much better addons for FS9/X FOR FREE. Thankfully a lor of those look like trash even externally so you can spot the trashfires from far away.
I thought that a MS release like the trimotor Ford or Junker was going to make the list. I have bought a sound set that didn't work and some and a few other things that were not necessary when I started out. Learned that if it isnt listed it isnt modeled or included. Never expect anything to be included.
Did you even bother to look inside the C-130? The entire cargo area is modeled and there IS a (rather lousy) cockpit with a pilot and copilot. When i was new in the sim, I bought the C-130 without looking at its low rating. It is pretty crummy, but i think your review of it was far from complete. You didn't even look inside.
@@AusFlightSimmer Okay, so I've just watched the vid again and..., err... ... NO! You Don't! You didn't SHOW the inside. What you did do, was a fly-by, quite quickly, from OUTSIDE, at an est. distance of about 25 feet. Also, while I admit, you do mention the modelled cargo area, you do, then followed this up with a statement that, there are no photographs from the cockpit, "... as there is NO cockpit on this one.". After this, you then go on to say, "... there's no virtual cockpit..." and that it's basically just, "... a C130 flying shell" (insinuating it's completely empty) and compare it to, "a remote controlled aircraft". So what does the cargo area look like? Also, What is the view like from the 'Non-Virtual' cockpit?
@@AusFlightSimmer No sweat, but really it's @rcj4046 that asked the question. I just thought he made a fair point. Anyway, I can only assume y'd had a bad day, when you replied to him (we all have 'em), 'cause normally you always seem pretty chilled. ✈🛬
Things you missed: That YF-23 doesn't even look remotely close to the real YF-23, the front wheel on the A-10 is too big and the rear wheels are too small. Captain Sim didn't learn from MS Flight that releasing payware aircraft without cockpits is not going to make pilots happy. I am surprised they had the balls to do that.
MSScenery pushes out 2-3 airplanes or helicoptors every single week. While I would have more sympathy with a new developer just starting out learning to model planes, MSScenery isn't trying to get any better. They are literally doing 2 aircraft a week, where other developers take months or years to develop an aircraft. Producing something of quality isn't a concern. The developer isn't interested in getting better at their craft, they are just overwhelming the market each week to catch people who are unaware. That takes Microsoft resources to test and list 2 aircraft a week. I think that since this developer is not interested in getting better, and they are mass producing these aircraft, using up valuable resources, they should be banned from the marketplace.
Im genuinely questioning microsoft on why they havent even touched MSCENERY yet, if they want to have MSFS the most realistic they should remove them with their terrible made and copied aircraft (as in aircraft thats already been in the game before they made their trash version) And dont give refunds to the people dumb enough to buy them and not look at the reviews first
@UA-camIsSeriouslyFcked refunds returned should be a thing. I get the whole "buyer beware" and "read reviews", however, you can't blanket everyone being dumb for purchasing a product. What if some wanted to try the craft? What about kids who just blindly buy aircraft to have a full hanger? Again, can't just blanket everyone.
@@Koalateatimes that's the thing, sh**ty Microsoft refunds only give you a 2 week window to fully guarantee a refund, anything other than that it's just a small chance after the two weeks, or wait next year if you refunded too many things (which is bs because I only refunded 3 things and now I have to wait until December this year) And I was just messing around with the no refund business, but people should look at the reviews or wait until the reviews reach a certain amount before buying anything like MSCENERY's BS examples of aircraft
These wouldn't be so bad if they were only a couple of dollars. But the developers want unreasonable amounts of money for what little they're providing.
I bought the MScenery A4, and it was enough to convince me never to buy another one of their products. Very few of the buttons in the cockpit are interactive, but worst of all was the airspeed gauge didn't work correctly. I would guess this is a multiplier issue? This is pretty basic stuff though, and I'd expect that to at least work correctly. They produce a large number of aircraft in a very short period, so I would guess they have some basic flight models and add a rudementary 3D model and release it within a week. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they used freeware avaiable for FSX or P3D and modded them.
I don't know what did Captain Sim looked for with its external model C-130 (apart, of course, of earning money in a easier way), when thery were going to publish a totally new C-130 edition.. this time with an excellent inner cabin and a flyable cockpit with preset cameras, panel, system closing to (but not in fact) a professional model and offered no discount AT ALL to the ones who purchased their earlier incomplete version! CS offers a good quality, indeed. However we cannot believe everything they say for they have shown they have a ""biz are biz" philosophy behind all the wonders of their advertisement.
just confirmed mu suspicions that ms scenery is bad (i made that mistake once a year ago i bought the yak-9) NEVER AGAIN haha. thank you for wasting like $60 for this video. your the best msfs youtuber :)
The YF-23 from MScenery is NOT an YF-23. Its external shape corresponds to a naval version proposed by Northrop Grumman for the US Navy as a Stealth advanced fighter in late '90s to replace the F-14. Obviously, it never flew... The real YF-23 Black Widow II had a totally different tail profile (a large flattened butterfly tail), and a completely different stealth fixed exhaust system. It also did not had a canard profile. Besides... What the heck does a Zvedza-type ejection seat do in a supposedly American fighter??
That YF-23 is not even YF-23. You need to add that it is a ficitional model. You can Google Northrop-Grumman, McDonnell-Douglas YF-23 Black Widow. As 1990s kid, YF-23 is not some weird designation, that can be easily misappropriated like that.
They seriously dont give a damn anymore, if microsoft wants to keep realism in this simulator they should remove MSCENERY and any other copied aircraft from different companies (e.g. Bredok3D F-22 and Eurofighter)
I don't get how there is still no moderation within the marketplace, MSCenery stuff would not even be good as freewares. I truly feel bad for people who thought they were buying an aircraft they are passionate about and ended up with a flying .jpeg. Microsoft is basically allowing ripoffs IMO
Many of these aircraft are available as free mods for DCS at WAY higher (sometimes full fidelity) quality. I’m shocked Microsoft even allows this sorta crap on the store.
I don’t know why he’s allowed to put aircraft on this game, I would never think about buying from him and it’s actually annoying seeing all his aircraft on the marketplace when your going through it.
@@TheInvisibleOrange26 Sorry, but I can't agree with your assessment that everything from 3.9 stars shouldn't be allowed to be bought. Remember that a score of 3 stars IS, in reality, the AVERAGE overall score on the market, assuming there's no '0-star' option. This drops to 2.5 stars if you.can award 0-stars. Therefore, the real range available is only from 1 to 5 , which means at a score of 3 (2.5) stars it's really deemed to actually be an ACCEPTABLE item to buy. So by all means, kicking anything at 2 stars or less, is a realistic goal.
I would say it would be better for MSCENERY to be removed, now i changed my mind. Its better for them to stay, so they can be clowned on and see how much people were dumb enough to buy their add-ons
Agreed there makeing money from unsuspecting gamers while putting low effort! Meanwhile Cowan sim and many others make extremely good models recently got the R66 Turbine best helicopter in MSFS hands down!!
While ever people keep buying **** like this then the developers will keep on producing them. Support the Good Developers & avoid the *****y ones. Thankfully "Places" exist to try these things out & then enable you to make the decision to buy which Ive done when the add-ons are on sale that I use regularly. The CS & others are just after yr money & dont care about the quality.. Support the good developers out there & U dont need every plane out there. I only fly the 748F anyway..
That’s not the YF 23 ACE combat had the YF 23 they need to take it down and look at that game this is so bad I almost bought it and had to do a double take on the plane I will pass
Why are you talking about the aircraft? The problem is the wholesome itself. It's garbage full of bugs. It's untrustworthy and it takes app so much room and it's expensive as all hell have spent $200 just on the game alone. And then not to mention all the planes that I've bought with. No return that I went VR when high-end on it. Thinking that maybe that was the issue. It's just a bad SIM. It's horrible. I have played Microsoft simulator since 1982. When I compiled the first one. II have played every single one in this by far is the worst.
Anything by Mscenery. Not sure why the C130 is rated so low. Its exactly what CS said it was....a visual model. I think people give it poor reviews because its not what they want and because it comes from CS. If I put a 3D box on the marketplace and market it as a 3D box....are people going to poorly review it for being a 3D box? Yep, that's the FS community.
I would like to see a comment section added to the in-sim marketplace. I’m interested in reading the comments from people who buy an add-on (specifically aircraft) and give it a one star while a vast majority of people give it a four or five star rating. Even when I was flying on the Xbox, I stayed clear of the offerings from certain developers, although I did buy a couple of 777s from the Captain due to there not being much offerings of airliners at the time. Lessons learned though.
Edit: After much thought, I think the marketplace should be somewhat similar to an eBay marketplace where if you’re going to give a seller a one star, you should give them a chance to fix the issue before you give them a negative review. However, given the backlog for updates to products already released, this might not be a good idea. I was looking at some add on airports and doing some math to see how many consumers were marking a product either a one or two star rating. The overall numbers were still low compared to four or five star ratings. The ones that stood out to me were airports that were rather large in file size (one had a 10 gigabyte file size), so I wonder if the simmers who are experiencing problems are on the Series S (for instance) or an older PC that has a hard time keeping up graphically with those airports. It doesn’t justify the two or one star ratings, but if it is a hardware limitation, then the simmer needs to be honest about that in a review comment.
Same here
Shane, total agreement with this assessment. Bottom line is that MScenery just doesn't cut it. To be fair, many of their flight models were early additions to the MS2020. My problem with them is that they never seem to improve their offerings. Thanks for this!
Welcome Carl.
They also buy their models off CGTraders
Who remembers when Captain Sim used to make the best ad on ons? That was around back in the FS 2004 days!
I heard he passed away and someone took over
Loved some of their previous aircraft in the older sims.
I had the C-130E and J from Captain Sim when using FS9 they were perfect and complex models to look at and fly.
Hopefully a lot more people see this before wasting there money. Great video
Save your money for BBQ's lol
@@ChaiseTaylor 100% exactly HAHAAH
Glad we could be of assistance. Thanks for watching TPHI -Mrs Aus
… after I bought two planes from them (MScenery), one accidentally because I got it mixed up with the MiG 15 from Bear Simulation, I'm just going to name the company „MISERY“ !
You’re really selling them too me 😂😂. Nice to see something different Shane 👍🏻
Cheers, Welcome Onewez!
Fun video. I'm impressed at how much detail even the lowest rated planes have. Those cockpits looked way better than I expected. Thanks for the showcase.
Glad you spent the time watching. Thanks Andrew
Crazy to think CaptainSim made a revenue of 20k AUD with the C-130....
And that's from the people who rated it. I'd say more people purchased.
Hit right on target! I don't even know why Microsoft allows MScenery products on their page. To this day, they do not have any single products worth to buy.
Cheers, thanks
Thanks for taking the hit Shane, to be honest I'm one who thought if it's in the market place it's OK but obviously quality control is subjective.
Totally Agree!
Absolutely Zenon..But people buy them..think Shane hit the nail on the head when he says geared towards an arcade flyer using an Xbox controller with the Skyhawk.
@@onewez13absolutely, I just bought a cheap cub, can't fly it, from the market place
You would think that it would be like that but as you can see it’s not. Thanks for watching-Mrs Aus
Hi Shane, great video like always. Is great to see someone that can evaluate a product that is not very good and say it honestly but still be respectfull to the people that created that product.
WoW Aus Flight Simmer takes dedication to take the hit for the community. Given they have to be approved The EuroFighter is a shocker.. But the Capt Sim really isnt a plane. I would like to see a Zero Stars level to properly reflect the rubbish standard of some of these.
Good Morning, Happy Weekend Mr VonBraun.
Wish you all the best in your new venture. Hang in there brother, you will make it through.
Thanks for the info Shane. I don’t personally mind that they are on the store, however I don’t think MS scenery should be able to get away with saying “highly detailed model”. It should be completely transparent and I agree with you, that inclusion of a comments section in the store could help with that.
💯. We will see if anything good comes from the comment section. Thanks for watching Inspector -Mrs Aus
Thank you for showing us this video on these worst Aircraft and please keep up these excellent videos you are doing well done 👏 😊😊😊
Bet that was hard work rather you than me, im amazed they get to the market place full stop, cheers shane you deserve a lay down 👍
Thanks Tricky. Cheers
Yes like watching all your awesome videos 😊😊
Thanks Michael. You comments are much appreciated -Mrs Aus
MScenery is an absolute joke 😂!
I learned my lesson about MSscenery aircraft a while back when I bought the A-10. Big mistake! Never again. This developer makes CS look like PMDG.🤮
Thanks for taking one for the team! haha!
You are most Welcome!
Great video mate, thanks for taking the financial risk on behalf of us all and saving us some dollars 😊😊
Hope it helps some simmers out. Cheers Dan.
@@AusFlightSimmer it absolutely will, if you’re streaming on Sunday I’ll try and fly along. I’ve not been able to get on the Sim for a bit and am looking forward to a flight with everyone.
The Boeing 737 Max?
Oh man😂😅
You think it's worse than ms scenery stuff?
@@sebastianthehotsaucedude5473 nooooo
That YF-23 isnt even anything like the real world one. the real world one had no forward control surfaces (like the angle up ones in ms scenery one. it also had different shape vericle stabilisers
Right? It's not even close. There are even easily found cockpit shots of the prototypes out there. Just a joke of a release.
It's the naval version of the YF-23 instead of the standard one.
@@tedm123 Then it should have been released as the NATF-23, not the YF-23. The Naval version only exists as drawings and concepts, while the YF-23 actually flew; even if only 2 prototypes.
@@tedm123I’m pretty sure it’s worse than that, the external model seems to just be a botch job of what started life as an F-35 model, seeing as the nose and wing angles seem similar and it has none of the smooth profiling of the real life YF-23. Long and short, the model is utter low quality cash grab garbage…
For some reason, they modeled the proposed/never built Naval variant of the F-23. The exterior is actually not bad and looks like the drawings I've seen. The cockpit is hilariously bad. Gotta love the Russian ejection seat! (which they also used in their Typhoon!)
This is heartbreaking, because I'm a huge fanboy of the F-23. I'd love to fly the Air Force and Naval versions in MSFS, but this is so poorly executed that I can't consider it.
Ok, there were a few aircraft’s on the list I was considering buying but then I came across MScenery. I think myself and others are going to stay far away from them. There were some planes on this list that I was looking at but thanks to you, your video helped me
Most welcome!
Great vid ya Kent. 😜
Thanks!
Great idea AFS! Probably save lots of potential buyers the disappointment at wasting their hard earned $$.$$ on them so its a nice little service you made for this video!!! Wwhat a huge task it would be to weed out all of msfs2020's flops though!!!
Great job!! Thanks and Cheers mate!!
Welcome Do. cheers
It’s funny how they all are military aircraft. Just hope the real world models are better, LOL! I enjoyed the video. I personally do not fly military aircraft. I have no interest in them. But it’s great having these reviewed for those enthusiasts who enjoy these type of aircraft. Good job sir.
Cheers, thanks Richard!
I respect your views, but owning a flight simulator, who wouldn't want to fly the F 16 Viper? I feel like a test pilot every time I get in it. Yes, the bush strips in PNG are fun in something like the Cessna 208, but zipping along at 600 knots and trying basic aerobatics gets the blood going, even if I haven't mastered the weapons or my landings. The downside is the added expenses of a different platform and the module itself, which are considerable. Cheers and happy flying!
Not gonna lie, I'm really surprised the Bredok 737 didn't make this list. I can only imagine how much of a dumpster fire these "aircraft" must be if they're worse.
Bredok has a target market.
MSFS are eyed by civil airliner simmer and newbies alike. That's why there is a huge bias against low quality military planes than airliners.
At least with Bredok737MAX, you can fool a lot of close friends and families, claiming that it is "close to the real thing" just like some of local yappy streamers.
Nicely done mate
As a long time if not lifelong simmer, I am appalled by the quality of some of the products on the MSFS store. It's unbelievable that no first party review takes place before putting it up there. I swear you could find much much better addons for FS9/X FOR FREE.
Thankfully a lor of those look like trash even externally so you can spot the trashfires from far away.
Great video!
Nice work Shane . So what we can take from this is to stay away from MS Scenery in the SIM . Sounds like you lost the will to live by the end..lol
What is MScenery? Lol. Thanks for watching Al
@@AusFlightSimmer Ment MS Scenery
I thought that a MS release like the trimotor Ford or Junker was going to make the list. I have bought a sound set that didn't work and some and a few other things that were not necessary when I started out. Learned that if it isnt listed it isnt modeled or included. Never expect anything to be included.
I bought the C-130. Not to fly it, but to have it appear at airports. C-130's are everywhere and having this model in the game is quite nice, imo.
That was a good idea for a video, thank you..
Glad you liked it!
Did you even bother to look inside the C-130? The entire cargo area is modeled and there IS a (rather lousy) cockpit with a pilot and copilot. When i was new in the sim, I bought the C-130 without looking at its low rating. It is pretty crummy, but i think your review of it was far from complete. You didn't even look inside.
Hello, you may need to watch the video again. Yes I did show the inside of the C-130, and talked about the cabin being model in the features.
@@AusFlightSimmer Okay, so I've just watched the vid again and..., err...
... NO! You Don't! You didn't SHOW the inside.
What you did do, was a fly-by, quite quickly, from OUTSIDE, at an est. distance of about 25 feet.
Also, while I admit, you do mention the modelled cargo area, you do, then followed this up with a statement that, there are no photographs from the cockpit, "... as there is NO cockpit on this one.".
After this, you then go on to say, "... there's no virtual cockpit..." and that it's basically just, "... a C130 flying shell" (insinuating it's completely empty) and compare it to, "a remote controlled aircraft".
So what does the cargo area look like? Also, What is the view like from the 'Non-Virtual' cockpit?
@@smudge0356 Excuse me, you are correct. I flimed but didn't use it. My apologies.
@@AusFlightSimmer No sweat, but really it's @rcj4046 that asked the question. I just thought he made a fair point.
Anyway, I can only assume y'd had a bad day, when you replied to him (we all have 'em), 'cause normally you always seem pretty chilled. ✈🛬
"Ninety Percent of all the gauges have been animated"... on an aircraft with a glass cockpit that has virtually no gauges.
Yep.
Strange; in MScenery, a frogman is sitting at the controls of the A-10! or Am I seeing wrong?
You should do the top 5 best rated aircraft in the sim market place next
Maybe :)
Am I crazy or is it M-Scenery, not MS-Scenery? Wouldn’t that by MSSCENERY?
You might be correct MMathew.... :)
I feel they are definitely taking advantage of xbox players
As an Xbox flight simmer I can say that Xbox simmers are chop liver compared to the pc simmers
Oof, I was gonna buy that soon lol. Thanks!
C130*
Things you missed: That YF-23 doesn't even look remotely close to the real YF-23, the front wheel on the A-10 is too big and the rear wheels are too small.
Captain Sim didn't learn from MS Flight that releasing payware aircraft without cockpits is not going to make pilots happy. I am surprised they had the balls to do that.
As an Airbus pilot I can tell you the stock A320 is awful.
The roll rate is way too slow for proper handling in rough weather.
Anything from Captain Scam should be on this list!
These were rated the worst for the moment.
How is Captain Sim’s aircraft not on this video?
Lewis, did you watch all of the video?
MSScenery pushes out 2-3 airplanes or helicoptors every single week. While I would have more sympathy with a new developer just starting out learning to model planes, MSScenery isn't trying to get any better. They are literally doing 2 aircraft a week, where other developers take months or years to develop an aircraft. Producing something of quality isn't a concern. The developer isn't interested in getting better at their craft, they are just overwhelming the market each week to catch people who are unaware. That takes Microsoft resources to test and list 2 aircraft a week. I think that since this developer is not interested in getting better, and they are mass producing these aircraft, using up valuable resources, they should be banned from the marketplace.
Im genuinely questioning microsoft on why they havent even touched MSCENERY yet, if they want to have MSFS the most realistic they should remove them with their terrible made and copied aircraft (as in aircraft thats already been in the game before they made their trash version)
And dont give refunds to the people dumb enough to buy them and not look at the reviews first
@UA-camIsSeriouslyFcked refunds returned should be a thing. I get the whole "buyer beware" and "read reviews", however, you can't blanket everyone being dumb for purchasing a product. What if some wanted to try the craft? What about kids who just blindly buy aircraft to have a full hanger? Again, can't just blanket everyone.
@@Koalateatimes that's the thing, sh**ty Microsoft refunds only give you a 2 week window to fully guarantee a refund, anything other than that it's just a small chance after the two weeks, or wait next year if you refunded too many things (which is bs because I only refunded 3 things and now I have to wait until December this year)
And I was just messing around with the no refund business, but people should look at the reviews or wait until the reviews reach a certain amount before buying anything like MSCENERY's BS examples of aircraft
Way to go ms energy! You are doing consistent work. Your committing business self destruction. Change the future and maybe you’ll get more smiles
These wouldn't be so bad if they were only a couple of dollars. But the developers want unreasonable amounts of money for what little they're providing.
Captain sim and Ctrl E love it ;)
I thought illd never see Shane Ctrl E
I bought the MScenery A4, and it was enough to convince me never to buy another one of their products. Very few of the buttons in the cockpit are interactive, but worst of all was the airspeed gauge didn't work correctly. I would guess this is a multiplier issue? This is pretty basic stuff though, and I'd expect that to at least work correctly. They produce a large number of aircraft in a very short period, so I would guess they have some basic flight models and add a rudementary 3D model and release it within a week. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if they used freeware avaiable for FSX or P3D and modded them.
Inibuilds, Aeroplane Heaven, MSCENERY, Captain Sim, Cockspur and DC Designs are all the ones I avoid.
Absolutely terrible developers.
The ending is the BEST
I don't know what did Captain Sim looked for with its external model C-130 (apart, of course, of earning money in a easier way), when thery were going to publish a totally new C-130 edition.. this time with an excellent inner cabin and a flyable cockpit with preset cameras, panel, system closing to (but not in fact) a professional model and offered no discount AT ALL to the ones who purchased their earlier incomplete version!
CS offers a good quality, indeed. However we cannot believe everything they say for they have shown they have a ""biz are biz" philosophy behind all the wonders of their advertisement.
just confirmed mu suspicions that ms scenery is bad (i made that mistake once a year ago i bought the yak-9) NEVER AGAIN haha. thank you for wasting like $60 for this video. your the best msfs youtuber :)
Thanks for the kind words.
The YF-23 from MScenery is NOT an YF-23. Its external shape corresponds to a naval version proposed by Northrop Grumman for the US Navy as a Stealth advanced fighter in late '90s to replace the F-14. Obviously, it never flew... The real YF-23 Black Widow II had a totally different tail profile (a large flattened butterfly tail), and a completely different stealth fixed exhaust system. It also did not had a canard profile. Besides... What the heck does a Zvedza-type ejection seat do in a supposedly American fighter??
The first kitfox was awful. Haven’t figured out how I totally undo it. It always says it needs downloading
That YF-23 is not even YF-23. You need to add that it is a ficitional model.
You can Google Northrop-Grumman, McDonnell-Douglas YF-23 Black Widow. As 1990s kid, YF-23 is not some weird designation, that can be easily misappropriated like that.
They seriously dont give a damn anymore, if microsoft wants to keep realism in this simulator they should remove MSCENERY and any other copied aircraft from different companies (e.g. Bredok3D F-22 and Eurofighter)
Virtualcol E175?
Nope, rated higher on the list than what's in the video.
all the mscenery ar so bad it shod be band
Ello Stu.
Part 2 soon?
Maybe.
thank you! I appreciate it. I do not buy aircraft with poor ratings. I wish flight sim had ratings.
My typo… I meant 21
That YF 23 is not a YF 23. Why would you call it a 23 when its just a fictional aircraft?
I always buy 4 star and above never disappointed
I don't get how there is still no moderation within the marketplace, MSCenery stuff would not even be good as freewares. I truly feel bad for people who thought they were buying an aircraft they are passionate about and ended up with a flying .jpeg. Microsoft is basically allowing ripoffs IMO
Many of these aircraft are available as free mods for DCS at WAY higher (sometimes full fidelity) quality.
I’m shocked Microsoft even allows this sorta crap on the store.
Of course, I wonder (again) What does a Russian ejection seat do into an European fighter like the MScenery Eurofighter???
As a real world Cessna 310 owner, it baffles me that the Milviz (Blackbird) Cessna 310 is so highly rated!? The flight model is terrible.
What makes it miss the mark?
I don’t know why he’s allowed to put aircraft on this game, I would never think about buying from him and it’s actually annoying seeing all his aircraft on the marketplace when your going through it.
787-9
Microsoft owe it to their users to weed out junk like this.
Those planes are worth $2, not $20.
Need some better standards.
Even before watching the video, I'm pretty sure that the worst rated aircraft will be one from msscenery
Ahah where do I start
That YF-23 doesn’t even look remotely like the real YF-23😂 no oversized canards for a start
There's far, far worse than these on the FS Marketplace. Maybe people who like military planes rate lower?
Probably a plane that cannot be rated as it’s on some other market.
Unfortunately I ended up buying two of those planes and I was rather disappointed the c130:and the skyhawk are absolute garbage
I think we all expected them to be a bit better than what they ended up producing. Can’t pick ‘em - Thanks for watching Admiral-Mrs Aus
The YF-23 looks nothing like the YF-23
How are MSScenery getting away with this?
Probably something by MSCenery
Microsoft should keep the standards high on this sim and get this junk out of the marketplace.
Agreed! If gamers are giving it sub 4 stars much less 1.5 it should be removed
@@TheInvisibleOrange26 Sorry, but I can't agree with your assessment that everything from 3.9 stars shouldn't be allowed to be bought.
Remember that a score of 3 stars IS, in reality, the AVERAGE overall score on the market, assuming there's no '0-star' option. This drops to 2.5 stars if you.can award 0-stars.
Therefore, the real range available is only from 1 to 5 , which means at a score of 3 (2.5) stars it's really deemed to actually be an ACCEPTABLE item to buy. So by all means, kicking anything at 2 stars or less, is a realistic goal.
For some reason there's nothing sadder than a bad msfs addon
lol I sense a trend 🤔 cough cough….MSCENERY
All voted by the people who purchased.
MScenery seems to be notorious for poor aircrafts
I would say it would be better for MSCENERY to be removed, now i changed my mind. Its better for them to stay, so they can be clowned on and see how much people were dumb enough to buy their add-ons
Time to ban these low performers from the marketplace. Marketplace should not be flooded with this crab. My Personal thought on this.
Agreed there makeing money from unsuspecting gamers while putting low effort! Meanwhile Cowan sim and many others make extremely good models recently got the R66 Turbine best helicopter in MSFS hands down!!
I cant understand how MSCENERY is allowed to sell their crap in the marketplace
While ever people keep buying **** like this then the developers will keep on producing them. Support the Good Developers & avoid the *****y ones. Thankfully "Places" exist to try these things out & then enable you to make the decision to buy which Ive done when the add-ons are on sale that I use regularly.
The CS & others are just after yr money & dont care about the quality.. Support the good developers out there & U dont need every plane out there. I only fly the 748F anyway..
Planes for xbox players, no hasards they are all
militarians jets or planes...shame to accept that in ms marketplace..
That’s not the YF 23 ACE combat had the YF 23 they need to take it down and look at that game this is so bad I almost bought it and had to do a double take on the plane I will pass
The FSS E-Jets are pretty bad.
Anything by Mscenery
Tbh I wouldn't have expected less then 4/5 aircraft in this list being made by mscenery. Please dont buy that stuff!
Md 80
No that's a good one.
MSCENERY.....enough said. Capt Sim is almost just as bad. I dont buy anything from either. Low cost doesnt mean good deal.
The worst is te CS C130.
Why are you talking about the aircraft? The problem is the wholesome itself. It's garbage full of bugs. It's untrustworthy and it takes app so much room and it's expensive as all hell have spent $200 just on the game alone. And then not to mention all the planes that I've bought with. No return that I went VR when high-end on it. Thinking that maybe that was the issue. It's just a bad SIM. It's horrible. I have played Microsoft simulator since 1982. When I compiled the first one. II have played every single one in this by far is the worst.
Mig 31
Theres no MiG-31 in MSFS
And no im not counting aircraft mods in MSFS
Anything by Mscenery.
Not sure why the C130 is rated so low. Its exactly what CS said it was....a visual model. I think people give it poor reviews because its not what they want and because it comes from CS. If I put a 3D box on the marketplace and market it as a 3D box....are people going to poorly review it for being a 3D box? Yep, that's the FS community.
My sincere condolences to everyone who got suckered into buying one of these trainwrecks. There is freeware for FS2004 that is better than this junk.