Actually Markus is Connor’s predecessor in the rk series and I believe Markus was built for military while Connor was made to be a detective because of Connor is the only leader he either gives up and his programming takes control again if he becomes deviant or he kills himself so cyberlife doesn’t take over his programming.
I always liked the contrast of markus and connor's fighting styles and how markus uses things around him and seems to be less trained in hand to hand combat while connor sticks to his guns and doesn't go for dramatic cool moves, just whatever works best. Amazing scene!
yeah ikr! also really love the physical differences between em, with connor and his blue aesthetic in a detective suit like a real machine, and markus the red one in a kinda revolutionary outfit :D it’s so badass
Well of course it’s never over. Connor has thousands of models. Even if Markus succeeds with his revolution and starts a civil war with the US or hell even an Android uprising. Connor is gonna be the one to hunt down Markus and kill him, and then all other androids will be terminated
@@andys2801 I wonder why Cyber life doesn't just sent out an Army of Connors to finish of Markus's Revolution instead of just sending 1 by 1 Lol I mean I get they want the Deviancy to activate and sending out more might screw that up but honestly fuck it. I would pay to see an Army of Connors lol
@@MistahJay7 because our Connor is a prototype so he in fact does not have that many model the RK900 that come after him in machine ending is the actual production model
I actually prefer the #2 Win/Lose options in general for a simple reason - I like how the failed prompts result in a more dynamic fight, both sides gaining and losing the upper hand and almost coming close to victory a few times each, the tide only turning because of a single missed QTE. I think that's much more fun than the short, easy win you get from a perfect combo. Anti-climatic.
I wished that there is a harder difficulty for this game because the difficulty rn is very easy. The fact that there’s a ton of animations for failed QTE is really wasted as we rarely see it since the game is a easy and leads to very short and anti-climatic fights like you said
The biggest skill, ironically, is knowing what you can afford to fail without going straight to an ending. I especially love Control Conner, Lose #2 in this video, because: Connor was clearly winning the fight the whole time, his only obstacle was the metal sheet. And when the time came to finish Markus off with a stomp... he missed, was countered, and the tables turned instantly. Connor was able to improvise a way out by grabbing a metal pole, but once Markus started swinging wildly, Connor wasn’t able to predict his moves anymore, being beaten by his own perfection.
...In other words, Control Connor Lose #2 is great because Connor is a badass even though he lost the fight. That’s REALLY hard to pull off and can’t be done by just failing all the prompts.
This scene would actually be a cool 2 player bit if you had a second controller. A prompt appears, and whoever lands it first has their character succeed at it, and if neither player does anything, it will simply skip and a new prompt will appear. If it happens too much, a wayward grenade will kill both. And although that’s technically a win for connor, well assume that him dying in any scenario is a loss, regardless of lore.
Yeah it would be a pretty cool concept. I can imagine the gameplay like “A way out” game style. You should search for the gameplay for it on UA-cam cuz it’s really interesting and cool how they did it
Markus is larger than Connor so he has the physical advantage but Connor being a police Android has tons of martial arts directives, effectively making him the best martial artist in the world, that's why
Theyre both prototypes however connor is specifically made for fights while Marcus isn't so yea it would take Marcus more effort to kill connor then it would for Connor to kill Marcus I still love my boy Marcus more tho
It’s probably because Connor is made using lighter/expensive materials to make him more agile and fulfil his job as a deviant hunter. Markus is made using heavier/cheaper materials since his just a nurse
@@theshermantanker7043 size doesn't have anything to do with it, in fact Connor has the advantage because he's smaller. He can move faster and his movements are more precise.
@@Yams-Hams7734 I never said Markus has the advantage in fighting, what I am saying is Markus is considerably stronger and larger than Connor, so it really wouldn't be that hard for him to break both Connor's arms
I also don't understand why they didn't give Connor some sort of gun or weapon incorpored in his body, like a functional machine gun in his hands or a flamethrower coming from his finger or something like laser beams. I know it sounds ridiculous but Connor was not a home android working to deal with children and old people, he was only programmed to solve serious crimes and fight hostile criminals such as the deviants. What was he suppose to do if some terrorist tried to bomb a train station and he was the only available operative? Ask politely the terrorists to go to jail?
@@creeperbell Tl;Dr I don't get why they didn't combine some of Markus' attributes to create the perfect machine I do get that, having had prior experience with robotics I can tell Connor's motors and actuators sacrifice strength for speed, largely hinting that Cyberlife was intending for this model to fight through speed and skill, as kinetic strikes like punches or kicks hit much harder when they're faster as opposed to when more force is applied, plus Connor also likely is a world class black belt in every martial art known to us today. But other than that Connor has absolutely no other attributes geared for combat, and although speed and skill is a massive factor in a fight, if you're too ill equipped, you will still lose. As opposed to this, Markus is one of the only 2 Androids in the entire game with a considerable amount of body mass, with the other being Luther. Since Markus is actually a prototype for Connor, he was also intended for combat too, and we can see that for him Cyberlife opted for a different route, giving him only more basic combat training directives but also significantly much larger and stronger (But slower) motors too. The results from this are obvious: Markus is seen in game to very easily overpower the average Human while Connor strikes quickly and incapacitates before any harm can come to him, but as a result he cannot afford to make any mistakes or it will very likely result in destruction. Markus on the other hand is shown receiving much more debilitating blows before being in danger of getting killed, likely because although he also isn't armoured, his much larger body size and thicker motors prevent damage from reaching vital parts as easily as Connor
@@AdanMorales-wr5ypNah connor's fight if you pick him is way shorter than if you picked Markus. Someone pointed out that Markus takes 32 qte presses vs Connor's 20.
I love when during the fight, Connors Uniform gets dirty, and when you get shot as Markus, he gets bullet wounds either from soldiers or from the fight with Connor when he shoots you with the pistol if your missing quick time events or hitting them when playing as Connor
You deserve way more views and likes because this is the best connor vs markus video i have not seen this content in the others plus you have really hard qtes and you nail them like a boss so yeah
Hes so much more of a badass when hes a machine though. Hes better as a character when u do the deviant route but as a machine the dude is an absolute BEAST
I always prefer Connor. However, one of my favorite scenes is when Markus cuts Connor's throat. Its shocking and cool at the same time. But even then, Connor has the last word. That's more than just badass.
my personal opinion, markus is the best android i mean think about, he was dismantled and broken and dumped into a robot graveyard and then proceeded to put himself back together markus literally refused to die which i think is bad ass. i also like markus fighting style, it’s like a street fighter, brawler, and martial artist all combined i love the way he switches from body slamming and pure raw power to where when he gets in a sticky situation like when he was in the floor and connor was trying to stomp him he dodge and wrapped around him and brought him to the ground but this is just my personal opinion and yes i also know i am about a year late
I absolutely agree how could connor lose after being a better model, having the jump on markus, and has Pistol and still lost also Markus's combat is personally much better
Y'know this is why I bought this game it's just smart in its game design and the storyline is just as good The choices you make can change the entire story which is why you need to think but make it quick
It's amazing right ? I got a ps4 just for this game because my brother's pc couldn't handle the pc version x) Thanks to this game I have my own console xD
There's so much things going on in this fight to point out that makes it the most iconic part in the game. It's why I have found myself coming back to this vid 2 years later to leave another response lol. I like both characters, but I'm more for Markus. I love how in his fighting style he is quick improvise by picking up any objects around him to use as a defense and weapon. Love at how he used the prop in this scene 4:01 to block at 'every' bullet Connor shot out at him. And the way he finishes off defeating Connor is just perfect too. 4:30 It's almost like in response to what Connor says before he dies Markus would reply in his head, 'Yeah, I'll be waiting when we come to meet again.' *walks off coolly* lol Also, not hard for me to imagine why Markus has fighting skills even when being a caretaker before. They also need to know how to 'protect' the one they are taking care of if someone was to hold them hostage or whatever.
I think Markus' fighting prowess is only tangential to his role as a caretaker android because he really isn't one. He was *repurposed* to be a caretaker android, but he wasn't intended to be one originally! Kamski built him as an RK prototype, and when he left Cyberlife due to corporate shenanigans, he'd slapped the home modules on Markus and given him to Carl as a caretaker android so Cyberlife can't get their mitts on him. Of course, the nurse android being able to act as a bodyguard is a huge plus, but in this specific case it's more like a side effect of... basically being a sleeper agent for spreading deviancy.
Markus has like that professional boxer fighting style Conner has the soldier in army fighting style Kara has the not a fighter more of a lover but if you mess with Kara prepare to have a bad time
Connor and Markus almost encourage you to jump into fights due to their skills, strength, and the adrenaline. With Kara you mostly avoid the fights because you aren't as strong and you have Alice to lose. That is why I loved her story the most.
7:51 The music here, a reprise of Connor’s original theme. Even if he has died he is the same Connor The one that saved that girl The one that discovered Ortiz’s assassin The one that captured Rupert He who saved Hank in the TV station That’s him The scourge of deviants, who shake when hearing his name Model RK800 His name is Connor The android sent by cyberlife
I like how this video shows more outcomes than the ones with more views. However, there are still some outcomes not shown here. Here's all of the possible fight / QTE outcomes: Markus Win : Markus kills Connor with a pipe. (Only one win outcome for "Control Markus") Markus Lose # 1: Connor steps on Markus, then shoots him. (Do nothing right from the start) Markus Lose # 2 : Connor does a leg sweep on Markus, then shoots him 3 times. (Lose at the part where Markus tries to drag Connor on the ground) Markus Lose # 3 : Connor breaks Markus's arm then brings him to the barricade to break his neck (Lose at the punching sequence before the barricade) Markus Lose # 4 : Connor breaks both of Markus's arms, breaks his neck, then picks up a gun nearby to finish him. (Lose at the barricade part at the very end) Connor Win # 1 : Connor kicks Markus to the ground then shoots him 2 times. (Do QTE perfectly right from the start) Connor Win # 2 : Connor breaks both of Markus's arms, breaks his neck, then picks up a gun nearby to finish him. (Miss a few buttons, but still win) Connor Lose # 1 : Markus kills Connor with the metal shield. (Do nothing) Connor Lose # 2 : Markus kill Connor with a pipe. (Lose at the barricade part at the very end) You put "all outcomes" in your title, so this was what I was expecting.
I'm in the process of playing through (and recording) those and the leg sweep from Connor and the execution were absolutely brutal, at least for me. I'd say more than the neck slice from the shield as Markus.
I like how Connor fights defensively while Markus fights more offensively. Shows that Connor is a well trained machine but Markus was only a servant machine with brute force fighting style
markus may be bulky and be extremely strong but connors style is so fucking brutal in both endings he practically breaks markus bones in the 2nd one and the 1 he just does not give markus a break and is even more brutal the 2nd one was a quick and swift death but the first connor is just rubbing it in that markus aint got shit
Since Markus is an old android, they probably use heavier/cheaper materials to make him unlike Connor that’s a more modern ver. that uses lighter/stronger/expensive material. So by this we can see that Connor is more “flexible” and somewhat faster than Markus. But Markus can hit harder due to his weight and strength
@@dopsgaming8796 keep in mind he has what seems like a fighting style programmed into him specifically to beat deviants he's stated multiple times he was made to hunt deviants and judging from how Connor moved he knew what he was doing and he knew weak points in Markus his flexibility allows him to do very disgusting and brutal things Markus is probably heavier yes but he is probably very acrobatic to say as he wall jumps climbs etc.
imagine an expansion where the androids won the war and connor is still a machine and in the expansion connor infiltrates detroit to take down the androids
*IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND YOU MARKUS* and why do I find the ending at 4:11 so funny lmao like connor just got knocked out (EDIT : just now realized connor looked like the joker lol
Solo Mon although you were kinda right on the part where Markus vs rk900 would be cool cuz there both different types of androids completely so I’d say I have the same interest in both of the battles
@@anactualamateur8618 no rk900 would absolutely annihilate connor after all connor is rk800 the prototype version of rk900, rk900 is more high tech than connor meaning he would win easily so I would see connor and markus vs rk900 in a 2v1 that would be more fair
superbryan005 true. I didn’t think of it from that angle of a 2v1. And I’ve just looked this up: the rk900 is faster,stronger and more resilient while also being equipped with the latest technology. So really I do agree that Connor wouldn’t have much of a chance but I would still like to see there decisions
the androids are designed to recreate pain reflexes (for example being punched in connor's thirium pomp), even though they don't feel it (getting shot in the arm and not even flinching) connor might sound in pain in these scenes, because he was hit in his vital biocomponents (heart, and throat), which are responsible for his voice
I'm 3 years late but you're totally incorrect. Markus isn't tougher or stronger, Connor is. He's the most advanced model of Cyberlife. He's way stronger and can withstand more hits, Markus was part of a secret Cyberlife program, sure, but he's nowhere near Connor's level, he's way more advanced. Plus he built himself up from spare parts from a junkyard, Connor is definitely stronger.
When I saw the beginning of the fight I went "how are they going to do a fight against two playable characters?" And I was horrified at the "control Markus or control conner" Choice.
Personally, I think that the ending, in which Connor dies trying to defeat Marcus, looks more correct within the framework of the plot, as if it should be so. Moreover, only in this case Connor's last words sound. All other endings of this fight seem to be unfinished.
That’s true, however Markus is a self taught fighter so he uses anything in his surrounding to his advantage. Connor fighting style is abit more rigid and sticking to the protocol and may not anticipate what Markus might do. Like using a random object for a shield. That’s why I think they’re kinda evenly matched but it’s just my opinion
@@dopsgaming8796 I mean, can't Connor do statistics and analyze his enviroment as well? Fighting Styles are important but so does having information, he can basicly predict every single move that Markus can do, or what he can take.
If I remember correctly both of them are RK models but marcus is ptototype designed by kamski,unlike connor.But marcus is more free.More leader type.More deviant,just like kamski wanted.So in fighting 1 vs 1 connor wins.But in diplomacy and team battle markus wins.
Markus would have not just been a nurse but also a Bodyguard There isn’t anybody watching Carl other then his Son So Markus would have been likely programmed to fight
I like that this game does something that other games fail to do Actually using the gun efficiently. It doesn't make it so you just shoot once and BAM! You have to go through a lot of quick time events, but it's still not just willy nilly with a pistol and missing every shot. Then again androids are supposed to be perfect though sooooooo...
Feel bad for anyone who wanted to but couldn't deviate and ended up having to fight to the death liking both characters. I know I would have chosen Markus in a situation like this, but it's interesting to see that Connor's theme is so cool it will always make him look like the hero. Also some of the deaths, like the one where Connor almost gets beheaded by a sheild, are brutal.
I like how Connor chooses to just fist fight Markus, when his gun literally falls a few inches away from him. Easily could’ve gotten rid of Markus by grabbing his gun and shooting him. Also, for some reason, hearing Connors groans of pain makes me sad. He sounds so innocent, even though he’s a killing machine. 😭
I used to think marcus was not supposed to be able to fight connor at all, connor is supposed to be a fighter and marcus is a caretaker.... But probably after he became deviant he downloaded all kinds of fighting techniques from the internet, its not like he has to practice for a long time before getting any good at it.... He could learn anything within a minute, probably
I love that little difference when controlling Markus and losing (second version) Connor doesn't shoot Markus in the head, but when controlling Connor and winning, Connor choose to make final shot in the head
Bryan Dechart (actor playing Connor) NEVER met Jesse Williams (Markus) or Valorie Curry (Kara) on set. I wonder how this was made? Side note, Dechart DID film with Minka Kelly (North)
Connor: Programmed to be a detective with moderate combat skills.
Markus: *NURSE*
Markus literally started from the bottom ;)
You might have missed a tiny bit of detail about Marcus if you think he's not programmed to fight.
Actually Markus is Connor’s predecessor in the rk series and I believe Markus was built for military while Connor was made to be a detective because of Connor is the only leader he either gives up and his programming takes control again if he becomes deviant or he kills himself so cyberlife doesn’t take over his programming.
But Markus isnt just a nurse, hes an RK200, whereas Connor is an RK800
And the RK series are basically the op ones
I find I prefer Connor’s fighting style-precise, quick, efficient. He looks lighter than Markus, too, who seems slower and more of a brawler.
Yup.Connor is designed to fight deviants while Markus isn’t a fighter,so his fighting style is abit “improvised” I think
Dops Gaming I want to know why Markus can fight (or lead a revolution for that matter) at all, given his original purpose as a nurse/caretaker, lol.
@@Mayakran well since he is the only android in the house probably to protect carl
i think markus fighting cool for beating up the swat,cops and the miltary or the devient hunter himself by the way markus is my faviorited
And sorry for the bad spelling as well
Honestly, if you really wanted to make a side win, pick the side you want to lose and just don't do anything. You can't mess up.
This is what i did
but that's like baby mode, i like the risk, its more immersive
It's not even that difficult to press buttons 😐
@@kingzingo1784 yeah, but you have to focus at least. because sometime even just missed a button, it can be fatal
This is the best solution. I always pick Connor and I let Markus kill him. Besides music is perfect.
I always liked the contrast of markus and connor's fighting styles and how markus uses things around him and seems to be less trained in hand to hand combat while connor sticks to his guns and doesn't go for dramatic cool moves, just whatever works best. Amazing scene!
yeah ikr! also really love the physical differences between em, with connor and his blue aesthetic in a detective suit like a real machine, and markus the red one in a kinda revolutionary outfit :D it’s so badass
I mean he still does dramatic cool moves in fighting by accident 🤣 in one ending he shoots like t guys throws the other gun and just does cool shit
Well, here Connor is a machine and Markus is a deviant, so it makes sense
@@tim.prasad03not true Connor can become deviant
@@AdanMorales-wr5yp My guy, I said Connor is a machine here. I didn't say he can't become deviant.
"It not over Markus.... It will Never be over"
Villain terminator Connor is easily my favourite in the game
Well of course it’s never over. Connor has thousands of models. Even if Markus succeeds with his revolution and starts a civil war with the US or hell even an Android uprising. Connor is gonna be the one to hunt down Markus and kill him, and then all other androids will be terminated
@@andys2801 I wonder why Cyber life doesn't just sent out an Army of Connors to finish of Markus's Revolution instead of just sending 1 by 1 Lol I mean I get they want the Deviancy to activate and sending out more might screw that up but honestly fuck it. I would pay to see an Army of Connors lol
@@MistahJay7 because our Connor is a prototype so he in fact does not have that many model the RK900 that come after him in machine ending is the actual production model
Markus' Revolution Will not be over
Connor was deviant for betraying amanda to stop markus
Me and my brother fighting for the last cookie in the jar
Who are you connor or markus?
@@eyeverse7184 The soldiers getting slaughtered in the background.
@@zuperpiplup13 yes
@@zuperpiplup13 ofc
it will not be over markus it will never over
I actually prefer the #2 Win/Lose options in general for a simple reason - I like how the failed prompts result in a more dynamic fight, both sides gaining and losing the upper hand and almost coming close to victory a few times each, the tide only turning because of a single missed QTE.
I think that's much more fun than the short, easy win you get from a perfect combo. Anti-climatic.
I wished that there is a harder difficulty for this game because the difficulty rn is very easy. The fact that there’s a ton of animations for failed QTE is really wasted as we rarely see it since the game is a easy and leads to very short and anti-climatic fights like you said
The biggest skill, ironically, is knowing what you can afford to fail without going straight to an ending.
I especially love Control Conner, Lose #2 in this video, because:
Connor was clearly winning the fight the whole time, his only obstacle was the metal sheet. And when the time came to finish Markus off with a stomp... he missed, was countered, and the tables turned instantly.
Connor was able to improvise a way out by grabbing a metal pole, but once Markus started swinging wildly, Connor wasn’t able to predict his moves anymore, being beaten by his own perfection.
...In other words, Control Connor Lose #2 is great because Connor is a badass even though he lost the fight. That’s REALLY hard to pull off and can’t be done by just failing all the prompts.
Facts, missing a few QTE prompts in certain fights makes this game feel more cinematic
That's the point.So you can lose 60% of your qte but still win.It was always one of the best thing in Heavy Rain
When Conner breaks Marcus's neck I feel a shiver up my spine.
Same
I wonder how that even works, they are robots
@@harbour2118probably brakes some efficient cords
Wasn't it his cheek? Like he broke the part of skull which holds the eye in humans.
4:00 markus becomes Captain America in Civil War who smashed Tony’s armour with his shield
That shield doesn't belong to you. You don't deserve it. Cyberlife made that shield!
@@WontSmith with their bear hands
Get this man a shield
and a RPG
That was freaking brutal. >.
I purposely lose some qte to make the fight even and more exciting
Same
Same, actually it could change the end of the fight sometimes
Me 2 im glad im the only one
Same
Whenever a fight is one sided it isn’t exciting. Need some tension to get people interested
This scene would actually be a cool 2 player bit if you had a second controller. A prompt appears, and whoever lands it first has their character succeed at it, and if neither player does anything, it will simply skip and a new prompt will appear. If it happens too much, a wayward grenade will kill both. And although that’s technically a win for connor, well assume that him dying in any scenario is a loss, regardless of lore.
Yeah it would be a pretty cool concept. I can imagine the gameplay like “A way out” game style. You should search for the gameplay for it on UA-cam cuz it’s really interesting and cool how they did it
Yeaehh
Thats just a way out's final boss lmao
0:11 the way he disarmed Connor was badass. That dropkick was no joke
Bret Hart gave it an 8/10 I hear lmao
No one's talking about how the soilders don't shoot Connor and Markus but shoot everyone else and just leave them so they could fight? 😂
Exactly!
If I was one of the soldiers I wouldn’t shoot them either. I would of pay to see that fight.
@@masterpringle9434 period
Probably didn't want to hit Connor
It’s because they knew that Connor was an RK, and they thought since Connor was designed for deviant hunting, they wouldn’t need to care about him
Don't know if this means anything, but it took Markus 32 button prompts to kill Connor. Whereas it only took Connor 20 button prompts to kill Markus.
Markus is larger than Connor so he has the physical advantage but Connor being a police Android has tons of martial arts directives, effectively making him the best martial artist in the world, that's why
I think it’s because Connor is build to kill deviants like Markus whereby Markus is just a normal robot
found it hard to belive that markus could win at all.
Connor is the newer model, faster and designed to take down deviants. Markus is more like a brute, not designed to take down androids
Theyre both prototypes however connor is specifically made for fights while Marcus isn't so yea it would take Marcus more effort to kill connor then it would for Connor to kill Marcus
I still love my boy Marcus more tho
Atleast the soldiers let them 1v1
Professional have standards
@@dopsgaming8796 Be polite, Be efficient, and one more
@@josephg1125 have a plan to kill everyone you meet
@@josephg1125 have a plan to kill everyone you meet
@@josephg1125 have a plan to kill everyone you meet
speed, agility, strategy:
Connor > Markus
strenght, durability, aggressiveness:
Markus > Connor
It’s probably because Connor is made using lighter/expensive materials to make him more agile and fulfil his job as a deviant hunter. Markus is made using heavier/cheaper materials since his just a nurse
Accurate.
4:25 He looks like the Joker
Yeah a dying joker
I have just ruined the 69 likes.
Won't Smith Bro stop fucking following me, I see your comments everywhere
Connor is a psycho like Joker ha ha ha.
😂😂😂😂
3:09 The amount of power used to break BOTH arms and a neck of the most powerful android yet... jesus, Markus.
Given that Markus is considerably larger than Connor I really doubt Connor is more powerful lol
@@theshermantanker7043 size doesn't have anything to do with it, in fact Connor has the advantage because he's smaller. He can move faster and his movements are more precise.
Markus's fighting style seems very stiff and heavy. Whilst Connor's is...like what many other people say, well timed, fast, precise and supple.
@@Yams-Hams7734 I never said Markus has the advantage in fighting, what I am saying is Markus is considerably stronger and larger than Connor, so it really wouldn't be that hard for him to break both Connor's arms
connor's actually taller than Markus
I love Connors fighting style he’s so elegant with it
Connor fights like a stickman who knows Kung Fu, where else Markus fights like an urban Street fighter that's fit.
I find it hilarious that Cyberlife didn't bother armouring Connor given that he's a police Android expected to face violence lmao
I also don't understand why they didn't give Connor some sort of gun or weapon incorpored in his body, like a functional machine gun in his hands or a flamethrower coming from his finger or something like laser beams. I know it sounds ridiculous but Connor was not a home android working to deal with children and old people, he was only programmed to solve serious crimes and fight hostile criminals such as the deviants. What was he suppose to do if some terrorist tried to bomb a train station and he was the only available operative? Ask politely the terrorists to go to jail?
@@kitcloudkicker14 ikr even if it looks stupid he was designed to stop crime so it doesn’t even matter what he looks like
@@creeperbell probably no one wanted an assasin machine
Exactly! I’ve always wondered that too, also he’d be a lot cooler with amour or a weapon too. Not that he isn’t already cool.
@@creeperbell Tl;Dr I don't get why they didn't combine some of Markus' attributes to create the perfect machine
I do get that, having had prior experience with robotics I can tell Connor's motors and actuators sacrifice strength for speed, largely hinting that Cyberlife was intending for this model to fight through speed and skill, as kinetic strikes like punches or kicks hit much harder when they're faster as opposed to when more force is applied, plus Connor also likely is a world class black belt in every martial art known to us today. But other than that Connor has absolutely no other attributes geared for combat, and although speed and skill is a massive factor in a fight, if you're too ill equipped, you will still lose. As opposed to this, Markus is one of the only 2 Androids in the entire game with a considerable amount of body mass, with the other being Luther. Since Markus is actually a prototype for Connor, he was also intended for combat too, and we can see that for him Cyberlife opted for a different route, giving him only more basic combat training directives but also significantly much larger and stronger (But slower) motors too. The results from this are obvious: Markus is seen in game to very easily overpower the average Human while Connor strikes quickly and incapacitates before any harm can come to him, but as a result he cannot afford to make any mistakes or it will very likely result in destruction. Markus on the other hand is shown receiving much more debilitating blows before being in danger of getting killed, likely because although he also isn't armoured, his much larger body size and thicker motors prevent damage from reaching vital parts as easily as Connor
2:20: I love how the military is just watching
Gotta make it fair😂
Like an audience
It's Connor vs Markus. You'd be watching too.
"I bet on the deviant"
"What the hell George? I bet on the RK800"
They gave Markus cooler finishers, but in control Connor and winning, wow. Connor absolutely destroys Markus.
Conners finisher in Markus’ second death was too cold
Nah they are equal in combat
@@AdanMorales-wr5ypno Connor is definitely the better fighter
@@Dark-ht6zoMarkus can win so no he’s not 😂😂
@@AdanMorales-wr5ypNah connor's fight if you pick him is way shorter than if you picked Markus. Someone pointed out that Markus takes 32 qte presses vs Connor's 20.
I love when during the fight, Connors Uniform gets dirty, and when you get shot as Markus, he gets bullet wounds either from soldiers or from the fight with Connor when he shoots you with the pistol if your missing quick time events or hitting them when playing as Connor
Connor and North shooting each other is such a dope ending for both of them
You deserve way more views and likes because this is the best connor vs markus video i have not seen this content in the others plus you have really hard qtes and you nail them like a boss so yeah
6:54
And here, Cyberlife has won.
Cyberlife needs to be destroyed.
Sorry Markus! I love Connor more. Eh what I say? I never had this scene because my Connor is a deviant.
Mine too. He's such a endearing baby deviant.
Deviant? Suppress the target! Move!
Hes so much more of a badass when hes a machine though. Hes better as a character when u do the deviant route but as a machine the dude is an absolute BEAST
Well done you.
@@redviper57 I hate Connor machine. Markus needs to win. End of story.
9:11 connors grip is literally so strong the skin on Marcus face begins to break
Damn at 5:32markus dropped as hard as my grades at the end of the year
Gullay
did you know I have a iq of 220 Funny. Laugh.
Whats 2+2
@@kinetosis3839 prove it!
Sayaam uhhhhh 5?
You know I am Joking lol its 4
I always prefer Connor. However, one of my favorite scenes is when Markus cuts Connor's throat.
Its shocking and cool at the same time.
But even then, Connor has the last word. That's more than just badass.
WW1: archduke gets shot
WW2: austrian gets rejected from art school
Android Revolution: son of rich painter doesn’t have enough money to buy coke
meth*
I love the change of OST depending on who you choose
You and your friend fighting for the last pizza slice
5:20
My favorite one is where Connor breaks Markus's arm.
That one is brutal af man
My is whem markus beat the hell out of conner
My favorite one is where MArkus destroys Connor’s neck
My favorite is when Markus finally kills Connor.
I don’t know how but I like it when Markus kills Connor any way....
But I can’t ignore my boi Connor though
Markus say ah!
4:51 5:03 5:11 5:12 5:13 and a oof 5:31
Nah, I think that oof was actually Connor, not gonna lie, both of them have nice reactions
@@adalindenau5035 I've already seen your reply but didn't replied, so yes it was like connor
my personal opinion, markus is the best android i mean think about, he was dismantled and broken and dumped into a robot graveyard and then proceeded to put himself back together markus literally refused to die which i think is bad ass. i also like markus fighting style, it’s like a street fighter, brawler, and martial artist all combined i love the way he switches from body slamming and pure raw power to where when he gets in a sticky situation like when he was in the floor and connor was trying to stomp him he dodge and wrapped around him and brought him to the ground but this is just my personal opinion and yes i also know i am about a year late
I absolutely agree how could connor lose after being a better model, having the jump on markus, and has Pistol and still lost also Markus's combat is personally much better
@@saul7466 because story reasons. Though the outcome should very much be Connor favored, they need to have Markus able to win so your choices matter.
Connor's still better
@@HeyItsQuantum actually no, you're just a dickrider
0:42 connor why you smiling 😂😂😂
10:37 I feel like he regrets it almost
No one is talking about the fact that the theme changes depending on who you pick
Thank you for including all of the cutscenes, great work!
0:34 NAUGHTY CONNOR, VERY NAUGHTY
I can see why Markus reacted to that hit lol
"No balls?"
*Megamind pic*
😂😂😂😂
Markus is so brutal I love it ! When Connor just wants to accomplish his mission, Markus is full of anger.
Because Connor is betraying them all. Of course Markus is angry.
@@ali_8996 no he isnt
markus isnt brutal, his skills and combat isnt advannced enough to take connor down easily so he has to attack more forcefully than his potancial
Y'know this is why I bought this game it's just smart in its game design and the storyline is just as good
The choices you make can change the entire story which is why you need to think but make it quick
It's amazing right ? I got a ps4 just for this game because my brother's pc couldn't handle the pc version x)
Thanks to this game I have my own console xD
1:53 connor my bro
He’s not your "bro"
@@Niko-js8sg shut up "bro"
Markus noooo
Shut up niko.
Niko69 who
There's so much things going on in this fight to point out that makes it the most iconic part in the game. It's why I have found myself coming back to this vid 2 years later to leave another response lol. I like both characters, but I'm more for Markus. I love how in his fighting style he is quick improvise by picking up any objects around him to use as a defense and weapon. Love at how he used the prop in this scene 4:01 to block at 'every' bullet Connor shot out at him. And the way he finishes off defeating Connor is just perfect too. 4:30 It's almost like in response to what Connor says before he dies Markus would reply in his head, 'Yeah, I'll be waiting when we come to meet again.' *walks off coolly* lol
Also, not hard for me to imagine why Markus has fighting skills even when being a caretaker before. They also need to know how to 'protect' the one they are taking care of if someone was to hold them hostage or whatever.
I think Markus' fighting prowess is only tangential to his role as a caretaker android because he really isn't one. He was *repurposed* to be a caretaker android, but he wasn't intended to be one originally!
Kamski built him as an RK prototype, and when he left Cyberlife due to corporate shenanigans, he'd slapped the home modules on Markus and given him to Carl as a caretaker android so Cyberlife can't get their mitts on him. Of course, the nurse android being able to act as a bodyguard is a huge plus, but in this specific case it's more like a side effect of... basically being a sleeper agent for spreading deviancy.
Connor win 2 was my favourite
Agent Carnage mine too
Yes
Markus needs to win. Humans needs to lose.
0:42 you can see Connor smiling lol
Oh damn I thought I’m the only who witness that lol
Pretty sure that's a grimace
@@ali_8996 yeah he also grimaces when bringing drunk Hank to the bathroom, but a lot of people mistake it for a smile.
That's not a smile lol
Because Markus is weak
Markus has like that professional boxer fighting style Conner has the soldier in army fighting style Kara has the not a fighter more of a lover but if you mess with Kara prepare to have a bad time
Connor and Markus almost encourage you to jump into fights due to their skills, strength, and the adrenaline. With Kara you mostly avoid the fights because you aren't as strong and you have Alice to lose. That is why I loved her story the most.
Sans:Hey that my word
When your controller out of batteries
This is what I was looking for !!!
Thank you very much!
Connor: Does everything Amanda tells her
Reward: gets replaced
like bro, this is why you should betray Amanda before she betrays you.
It’s pretty much the fate of every machine
Amanda is a machine too, I'd love if you could find Amanda as Connor or Markus and kill her. She stands no chance against either
That is the ending you get for having no empathy for the androids I guess.
Sucks though.
7:51
The music here, a reprise of Connor’s original theme. Even if he has died he is the same Connor
The one that saved that girl
The one that discovered Ortiz’s assassin
The one that captured Rupert
He who saved Hank in the TV station
That’s him
The scourge of deviants, who shake when hearing his name
Model RK800
His name is Connor
The android sent by cyberlife
I like how this video shows more outcomes than the ones with more views. However, there are still some outcomes not shown here.
Here's all of the possible fight / QTE outcomes:
Markus Win : Markus kills Connor with a pipe. (Only one win outcome for "Control Markus")
Markus Lose # 1: Connor steps on Markus, then shoots him. (Do nothing right from the start)
Markus Lose # 2 : Connor does a leg sweep on Markus, then shoots him 3 times. (Lose at the part where Markus tries to drag Connor on the ground)
Markus Lose # 3 : Connor breaks Markus's arm then brings him to the barricade to break his neck (Lose at the punching sequence before the barricade)
Markus Lose # 4 : Connor breaks both of Markus's arms, breaks his neck, then picks up a gun nearby to finish him. (Lose at the barricade part at the very end)
Connor Win # 1 : Connor kicks Markus to the ground then shoots him 2 times. (Do QTE perfectly right from the start)
Connor Win # 2 : Connor breaks both of Markus's arms, breaks his neck, then picks up a gun nearby to finish him. (Miss a few buttons, but still win)
Connor Lose # 1 : Markus kills Connor with the metal shield. (Do nothing)
Connor Lose # 2 : Markus kill Connor with a pipe. (Lose at the barricade part at the very end)
You put "all outcomes" in your title, so this was what I was expecting.
I'm in the process of playing through (and recording) those and the leg sweep from Connor and the execution were absolutely brutal, at least for me. I'd say more than the neck slice from the shield as Markus.
@@BlazeGamer206 Will you upload it? If I'm not mistaken, no one has uploaded a real all outcomes video for this QTE yet.
@@steadygrowth6494 I'll try to upload all Connor vs Markus confrontations and their outcomes along with the fight scene as well if possible.
Well at least I’m not the only person who found the extra endings
That spin move where connor takes down markus is so badass
Well connor and markus both have john wick mode
I like the part at 5:20 to 5:23.
4:00 Captain Detroit
All deaths 0:51 2:00 3:17 4:15 6:03 7:35 9:10 10:27
seems like it will never be over....
Markus : I can do this all day
@@dopsgaming8796 lmao
"Just getting started!"
@@dopsgaming8796
Man, this is really awesome! Thank you.
4:45 the best fight out of all of them because even though Connor loses he at least puts up a decent fight before losing
There is one more ending if north keeps the detonator for the dirty bomb and gets spared by connor she'll detonate it
If this was a movie and connor remained machine connor wouldve won
4:13 no my boy ;((
I just controlled markus and lost as him so i dont fail my mission and aint betraying my boii connor
Damn, you doomed an entire species over one pretty boi.
I like how Connor fights defensively while Markus fights more offensively.
Shows that Connor is a well trained machine but Markus was only a servant machine with brute force fighting style
I like how Connor lost to 2 sex robot
@@gus-is-sus he didn't lose ! He's just decided not to shoot ! That's all !
I think by sparing North shows how Connor was a deviant all along but just didn't want to believe it
markus may be bulky and be extremely strong but connors style is so fucking brutal in both endings he practically breaks markus bones in the 2nd one and the 1 he just does not give markus a break and is even more brutal the 2nd one was a quick and swift death but the first connor is just rubbing it in that markus aint got shit
Since Markus is an old android, they probably use heavier/cheaper materials to make him unlike Connor that’s a more modern ver. that uses lighter/stronger/expensive material. So by this we can see that Connor is more “flexible” and somewhat faster than Markus. But Markus can hit harder due to his weight and strength
@@dopsgaming8796 keep in mind he has what seems like a fighting style programmed into him specifically to beat deviants he's stated multiple times he was made to hunt deviants and judging from how Connor moved he knew what he was doing and he knew weak points in Markus his flexibility allows him to do very disgusting and brutal things Markus is probably heavier yes but he is probably very acrobatic to say as he wall jumps climbs etc.
imagine an expansion where the androids won the war and connor is still a machine and in the expansion connor infiltrates detroit to take down the androids
Damn that would be cool af man. But usually these kinds of games don’t get any dlc or sequels
*IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIND YOU MARKUS*
and why do I find the ending at 4:11 so funny lmao like connor just got knocked out
(EDIT : just now realized connor looked like the joker lol
Kara [AX400] maybe because he’s beating him like a balloon
Markus: LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE
Connor: Its not over, Markus...
@@WontSmith xD
@@WontSmith it will never be smith
I'm curious to see what would the RK900 would do if he was my in this fight scene.
Solo Mon Markus wouldn’t have much of a chance, i would rather see Connor vs RK900
@@anactualamateur8618 well ya I agree Connor Vs rk900
Solo Mon although you were kinda right on the part where Markus vs rk900 would be cool cuz there both different types of androids completely so I’d say I have the same interest in both of the battles
@@anactualamateur8618 no rk900 would absolutely annihilate connor after all connor is rk800 the prototype version of rk900, rk900 is more high tech than connor meaning he would win easily so I would see connor and markus vs rk900 in a 2v1 that would be more fair
superbryan005 true. I didn’t think of it from that angle of a 2v1. And I’ve just looked this up: the rk900 is faster,stronger and more resilient while also being equipped with the latest technology. So really I do agree that Connor wouldn’t have much of a chance but I would still like to see there decisions
I love how they both do grunding sounds even when they don't feel it
9:06 is very brutal
8:07 connor rly said *UNO REVERSE CARD IN ACTION*
Why dose Connor sound like he’s in pain when he dosen’t feel pain cause he’s a mechine
Detroit become human.
@@itsshrimp91What dose that mean you didn’t answer my question
the androids are designed to recreate pain reflexes (for example being punched in connor's thirium pomp), even though they don't feel it (getting shot in the arm and not even flinching)
connor might sound in pain in these scenes, because he was hit in his vital biocomponents (heart, and throat), which are responsible for his voice
The androids sometimes make ah and oof noises cause the damage is also directed at their sound systems
This scene is much funnier, when you play Mortal Kombat soundtrack to it.
Man markus likes using a sheet of metal or a metal stick. And Conner likes using guns
The dirty bomb ending is the best, I wish Markus had triggered it as soon as Jericho came under attack, so many Deviants would have been saved.
Yup that’s a missed opportunity to add the decision in since the bomb is introduced just before the attack
Markus: I’m tougher and stronger and taller than Connor I can beat him
Connor: Literally beats up Markus
On the Connor win part by the way
I'm 3 years late but you're totally incorrect. Markus isn't tougher or stronger, Connor is. He's the most advanced model of Cyberlife. He's way stronger and can withstand more hits, Markus was part of a secret Cyberlife program, sure, but he's nowhere near Connor's level, he's way more advanced. Plus he built himself up from spare parts from a junkyard, Connor is definitely stronger.
When I saw the beginning of the fight I went "how are they going to do a fight against two playable characters?" And I was horrified at the "control Markus or control conner" Choice.
Personally, I think that the ending, in which Connor dies trying to defeat Marcus, looks more correct within the framework of the plot, as if it should be so. Moreover, only in this case Connor's last words sound. All other endings of this fight seem to be unfinished.
Good job. Thank you
4:09 thank you, david cage
I like how Markus keep parry Connor’s gun with a pipe
What the hell did connor with the hands of markus.
@@zaimvibin4930 He broke the bio compents
They force the arm the extend beyond what it's capable of, which essentially destroys their actuators and paralyses them
4:40 is my personal favorite
Realistically speaking Connor have a huge advantage because he was build for combat while Markus was build more for nursery.
That’s true, however Markus is a self taught fighter so he uses anything in his surrounding to his advantage. Connor fighting style is abit more rigid and sticking to the protocol and may not anticipate what Markus might do. Like using a random object for a shield. That’s why I think they’re kinda evenly matched but it’s just my opinion
@@dopsgaming8796 I mean, can't Connor do statistics and analyze his enviroment as well? Fighting Styles are important but so does having information, he can basicly predict every single move that Markus can do, or what he can take.
If I remember correctly both of them are RK models but marcus is ptototype designed by kamski,unlike connor.But marcus is more free.More leader type.More deviant,just like kamski wanted.So in fighting 1 vs 1 connor wins.But in diplomacy and team battle markus wins.
Markus would have not just been a nurse but also a Bodyguard
There isn’t anybody watching Carl other then his Son
So Markus would have been likely programmed to fight
“Looks like only one of us can succeed”
Me and my sister fighting to see who gets in the shower first
2:00 gives me horrible flashbacks of when my mum did the same thing... lucky I didn’t die
Damn man, hopefully I didn’t leave any permanent effects on your body cuz it’s kinda brutal
Or maybe your mom is trained professional, then I think it’s kinda fine
@@dopsgaming8796 she’s a teacher lol I mean if she acts like that to her students then I’m kinda worried 😂😂😂😂
My Friend: how do you know these moves
Me: 👀
Also me: Detroit become human
Him: wait what
His smile connor is smiling 😂 0:42
Ahhhh watching Connor die hurts more than I realized haha
I like that this game does something that other games fail to do
Actually using the gun efficiently.
It doesn't make it so you just shoot once and BAM! You have to go through a lot of quick time events, but it's still not just willy nilly with a pistol and missing every shot.
Then again androids are supposed to be perfect though sooooooo...
Connor shoots as efficient as he can. When he has the opportunity, he shoots the best way that is given to him.
Feel bad for anyone who wanted to but couldn't deviate and ended up having to fight to the death liking both characters. I know I would have chosen Markus in a situation like this, but it's interesting to see that Connor's theme is so cool it will always make him look like the hero.
Also some of the deaths, like the one where Connor almost gets beheaded by a sheild, are brutal.
I feel like if you wanted to deviate you had tons of opportunities to get the option, heck I had it but for some reason I liked machine Connor more
I like how Connor chooses to just fist fight Markus, when his gun literally falls a few inches away from him. Easily could’ve gotten rid of Markus by grabbing his gun and shooting him.
Also, for some reason, hearing Connors groans of pain makes me sad. He sounds so innocent, even though he’s a killing machine. 😭
I used to think marcus was not supposed to be able to fight connor at all, connor is supposed to be a fighter and marcus is a caretaker.... But probably after he became deviant he downloaded all kinds of fighting techniques from the internet, its not like he has to practice for a long time before getting any good at it.... He could learn anything within a minute, probably
The boys lockeroom:
Exactly 😂
Is he named Connor on purpose? I mean... terminator reference and shit?
Yes.
I love that little difference when controlling Markus and losing (second version) Connor doesn't shoot Markus in the head, but when controlling Connor and winning, Connor choose to make final shot in the head
Bryan Dechart (actor playing Connor) NEVER met Jesse Williams (Markus) or Valorie Curry (Kara) on set. I wonder how this was made?
Side note, Dechart DID film with Minka Kelly (North)