Years ago before Crimson cut their first album, some friends of mine had a band and they rehearsed in the basement of a cafe in Fulham London. I went along to the rehearsals on several occasions and noticed that there was a stack of equipment in the hallway. I asked my friends whose equipment it was and they said it belonged to another band that rehearsed there. I asked what they were called and none of them knew their name, so I took a closer look at the equipment. I eventually found their name stencilled on one of the cases. King Crimson. I thought to myself, with a Mellotron and a name like that, they're never gonna make it. I've just bought tickets for a Crimson gig in Cardiff in October 18 and just hope they're gonna play the same set as the live in Chicago (June 17) double CD and so does my son who's coming with me.
I really is amazing when you look at all of the artists that Fripp was able to bring into King Crimson to make special appearances on those three (3) albums after the first album. Keith Tippet is amazing on these records, especially Catfood. Fripp wanted Tippet as a full time member, but Tippet declined. Artists from the Soft Machine camp appear, too, such as Marc Charig and others. Amazing band that I absolutely love listening to.
@@ericarmstrong6540 growing up in Cleveland Ohio.in the 80s. The drummer of the band i was hooked up with . Well his older brother "Jimmy " moved to San Francisco a few years before. ( a side note . Jimmy was the best guitarist i have ever watched face to face) but Jimmy hooked up with a couple of guys out there and they called themselves Mauer, Juhne , Tippit, Cross. . I had the chance to meet and watch them preform. They were as good as they get. Also Jimmy was always back and forth to Cleveland and San Francisco . But I know of 3 times Alen Holsworth was coming through Ohio and always had Jimmy to open for him. Jimmys band was in SF so he was always scattering around to get some musicians together . And each time they never really had time to practice anything and the shows were always jam up and all jazz improv that could put the finest seasoned musicians in shock. Thank for listening
Agree . Their 80s line up is really amazing , They just have a great atmosphere and sound and the Bruford, Fripp, Belew and Levin line up had a great chemistry .
Good video, except i just thought i'd remind you that Red was not Bruford's last album, in fact, Bruford went on to go and do another four albums with the band. That is unless you got mixed up and meant John Wetton as this was his final album with the band.
Excellent commentary on King Crimson. You have a great record collection. I particularly enjoy The White Album, AKA starless and Bible black. Absolutely essential to any record collection. Thanks for posting your videos.
First of all, Derek, you're more handsome than the Crimson King! Second of all, Court Of The Crimson King was such an eye opener. The psychedelic era of rock was coming to an end. Prog rock was taking over. That album influenced Yes and Genesis. While In The Wake Of Poseidon took things further from their debut, transition was also apparent. Side 1 is similar to the debut but side 2 is its own entity. Lizard makes the transition more apparent. Red was a blueprint for what a "farewell" album should sound like. Discipline brought King Crimson back together, albiet with new people in tow.
2.25 mins.....you got me laughing there Derek! a humble man who is able to laugh and mock himself is a rare commodity today. So much vanity and selfishness in the world and you destroyed it with that simple piece of humour. Great stuff
Agree quite a bit with your assessments of the individual LP's. I'm curious what you think of "Islands". I think it's hugely underrated. I also like "Beat" quite well (at least as much as "Discipline") I think "Discipline", "Beat" & "Three of a perfect Pair" go well together. They play almost like a set (kind of the way Jethro Tull's "Songs From the wood", "Heavy Horses" & "Stormwatch" fit nicely together.) Considering how widely King Crimson's music would change in the course of a couple of LP's. It's amazing how consistently good every one of these first 10 LP's are.
thegalaxybeing Islands is a masterpiece. I saw that lineup and can attest to its brilliance.. but they didn’t do the song Islands.. no pianist or cornet player. It was fare from Lizard Court Wake and Islands and I hadn’t heard Islands so thought it was the Lizard band !!! I was a kid but it made a dramatic impression on me. I’m so happy that you appreciate Islands... critics suck. They use their poison pens yet aren’t in the arena bleeding for all to see, pouring out their hearts. Islands the song is one of the crowning achievements of the great KC repertoire. Perfect peace...
thegalaxybeing I have a cool KC group on FB if you’re interested. It’s called King Crimson: The Early Years: 69-74. Come join us! 😊 We have a good time discussing other prog too, etc.
Robert Fripp is in my top five guitar players, great retrospective of King Crimson. You motivated me to pull out an old box set "The Great Deceiver", live performances 1973-1974 and put it on the ipod. I will be driving around with K.C. cranked for a couple of weeks now. Thanks!!
It's funny how at 5 years old I was very well acquainted with the Chicago Transit Authority album and yet was into my 40's before I ever listened to King Crimson! I agree that the first two releases are a must for anyone that can really "feel" music. According to your video, I have a lot of catching up to do (since I have only listened to the first two albums) and I am looking forward to it! Thank you.
Definitely a KC fan over here. Have you heard THRAK or B'BOOM: Live from Argentina? B'BOOM was an "offical bootleg" recorded during their tour for THRAK in the mid-90s. The song selection is astounding and, sonically, it's a phenomenal recording. Sadly, it has not seen the light of day on vinyl (to my knowledge) yet. Thanks for another good video, Dereck. I enjoyed it. You inspired me to go put on some King Crimson.
Islands is apparently quite underrated - but in that one, Fripp experiments rather with the chamber music instruments. And the result is just as dreamy as the first record more mellow songs. Love it from end to end.
I completely agree with what you said about the album In The Court Of The Crimson King, definitely one of the greatest yet most underrated album out there.
Discipline is easily one of my top three King Crimson albums along with CotCK and Thrak, though I could never pick an order for them. The four CDs in the frame by frame collection are absolutely stunning! What a collection.
I have, "In The Court Of The Crimson king", "In The Wake Of Poseidon", "Lizard", "Lark's Tongues In Aspic", and "Red" in my collection. These are my five favorite King Crimson albums. I never got "Islands" or "Starless And Bible Black", as I never really liked those records. And I never got the later ones starting with their 1981 album "Discipline", because i thought they weren't as good, but also I'm running out of room to add more cds and records in my collection!
I did not think I could like you anymore than I did before but after hearing you speak about my second favorite band ever, I have a higher respect for your musical knowledge now. The last time I saw them play live was at the Beacon in NYC, 1997. Great show of course. I also read in your comments that you met them all except for Fripp. Maybe that was a good thing? Fripp is hard to talk to anyways Derek. What is your favorite studio from Discipline on? I would love to know. Thanks Derek!
thanx alot. im so hyped to get on the crimson wagon. there records are so expensive but i imagine its worth it! m starting by buying the reissue of in the court of. im looking for Red aswell. thats the album that turnd me on to crimson but i have to find it cheaper than 30€ or so... thanx
King Crimson is one of my favorite bands, but hard to collect for. Whenever I find their stuff, it's usually pricey, but I'm slowly getting everything. The Mellotron shines on most of their 70s albums
Man you barely mention Islands ??!!! It’s beautiful too, and totally different... a lot of space, rests. Boz is an excellent singer. The song Islands is so beautiful, it’s beyond description. I saw that lineup, man. Incredible. Mel Collins, Ian Wallace, Boz and Fripp. Otherwise, really enjoyed the video.
dereckvon Well, perhaps give it a fresh listen. 😉 The cornet solo... wow. I’m not wild about the soprano bending notes that high however. As a soprano and pianist myself, that’s not something that I find listenable, after maybe two times. I just skip it. Have for years. :) Live, Boz does some scat singing there.
Arkadi Danielyan Start listening more!? All I do is listen to King Crimson! Whatever. I have a double Bachelor of Music degree in both piano and voice, and do know something about King Crimson. I founded and run a KC group and most of the fans I know love Islands. It’s a matter of opinion. But nobody’s opinion is more valuable than another’s anyway, if it is well informed. I saw the Islands lineup perform their last gig together too and it happens to have been in B’ham Alabama. So I certainly have a right to my opinion. You don’t have to be rude about yours.
@TheMM360 Thanks for commenting and it makes sense that Europe would get it right. I do have all of those other titles but all on cd. I'll show my Fripp solo/collaborations in another video. You can bet I own the Fripp & Eno albums. Thanks again for commenting.
Awesome man! Looking at your other thumbs, I see we both have similar interests! I remember owning LTIA on vinyl but it had a maroon border on the cover. Also, have you ever owned or heard 'The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson'? Great Fripp supervised compilation!
King Crimson Lizard was my introduction to jazz the trumpet on bolero is very reminiscent of Miles Davis Sketches of Spain , Love everything they did in the 80's Discipline being my favourite of that period.
@dereckvon I recommend you some great 70's argentinian bands and solo like: Almendra, Manal, Pescado Rabioso, Invisible, Color Humano, Aquelarre, Polifemo, David Lebón, Luis Alberto Spinetta, Vox Dei, Moris, Etc. Sure you will enjoy all these bands.
Maybe even Seru Giran. Definitely Invisible and all things from el Flaco Spinetta. I remember Pastoral also being interesting. I'm surprised you left off my favorite: Arco Iris.
@AfterFelicidad97 Greetings. I don't think I have any Argentinian vinyl but here are some of the Argentinian artists I have digitally: Kevin Johansen + the Nada, Gustavo Cerati, Bubu, Las Orejas y la Lengua ti name just a few. I love recommendations if you think there is something I should hear.
hello, a nice review- i saw the marvellous debut of king crimson at hyde park july 5th 69 with rolling stones,and elswhere.they were so good and with fripp on his stool,and the mellotron and strobes it was so much of that magical era.that gave way to the mundane 70s,including crimson.im afraid to me, you cant underestimate the role of pete sinfield who gave the ist 3 albums that kind of barouque mysticism, especially on lizard ! on new years day 71 without drink or drugs me and a friend played lizard,the terry riley and the vistas of a kind of surreal archtypal evocation was so present. the later 70s ones are a bit 2 dimensional techno jazz rock for me. id relly urge you to hear jade warrior,if you havent yet, eg. way of the sun,floating world,kites,and waves ,a kind of effortless mythic soundscape that youll enjoy.
Buford never actually left the band. After Red, they went on hiatus, then returned with Discipline, Beat & Three Of A Perfect Pair. Then a second hiatus, which they returned from with the records Vrooom, Thrak, DeconstruKction Of Light and 2003's The Power To Believe. Buford was on all of those records.
To quote Fripp at the time, King Crimson actually "cease[d] to exist" after the release of Red in September, 1974. Fripp, as the band leader, in essence "pulled the plug" on Crimson for reasons that are well documented for those who wish to read more. They were no longer a going concern and Fripp, Wetton, and Bruford went on to other endeavors after Red. Fripp did keep the ghost of Crimson alive with the release of "USA" and "Young Persons Guide to King Crimson" after their demise. The re-emergence of King Crimson in 1981 only happened after the new band, "Discipline", was formed in the spring of 1981 and, after playing together for several "play-in" gigs, everyone in the band agreed that instead of the name "Discipline" the group should be called "King Crimson".
@Blueecm I do and have several titles on cd. I focused this video on showing the vinyl. I got to see King Crimson a few times in the last ten years and met Adrian, Tony, Pat Mastellotto and Trey Gunn. I was within talking distance of Robert Fripp but frankly, it was one of the few times I felt too intimidated to speak.
@dereckvon I can't wait to see your Fripp collection. But you should also teach these kids from the vinyl community about Yes, Van der Graaf and Gentle Giant. Or maybe just make a "prog-rock must have" video. Most people today have no idea about what those guys from the progressive scene were up to in the early 70s.
I took him to mean precisely what he said- that the turmoil in the world will eventually catch up to just about everyone in every society, and leisure time for collecting records and listening to them will likely be thin on the ground. I was simply stating that here in 2018, it is still going in that direction IMHO.
A complete collapse of society does not have to happen for people who are already on the line economically to be negatively affected enough to lose their disposable income (i.e. collecting old records) and much of their spare time (i.e. listening to them) ... I took his reaction to the political climate in the U.S. especially to reflect this. Why don't you ask him precisely what he meant?
Derek, the album after Discipline and before Three of a Perfect Pair was actually called "Beat". It did have the song "Heartbeat" on it though. I am sure you knew that and probably just pronounced it wrong. Just thought I would tell you. Rob/Boston
In my opinion, the ONLY Classic Rock band that actually got BETTER after 1980 was King Crimson. I say that as a huge Crimson fan, who LOVED everything they did before Discipline already. But, when Discipline came out, it cut against the grain of everything else going on at that time. It was like Crimson were saying we really don't care what we're being told. We're following our muse - deal with it. Most of my favorite acts of all time either sold out a bit, burned out a bit, or just quit after about 1979. Not Crimson. It goes against the pattern of what I think of every other trend, post-1979, to say this, but I DO think Discipline (and Beat) are essential. I think Three of a Perfect Pair was a bit of a let-down after that, and they've never quite reached that pinnacle again, since. But, every time they do something new, it's still pretty amazing. A few other acts are kind of like that (Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, for instance), but none are so unwilling to cop out and become lame as King Crimson.
"in the wake" almost had elton john on it. fripp decided "no" at last moment. i have always said kCr are a kind of spring fling; very hard to love for a long time. (but i do). they kept changing up as they moved forward. Red is just about my fave, but closely followed by In the court, Beat, Power to believe. only not entranced by islands (original mix release) and Thrak. i tend to have Bowie "scary Monsters" and Gabriel #3 and #4 alongside Beat, 3 of a perfect pair due to shared musicianship and time of release.
To me In the court of the crimson king is the ultimate rock album and here in Europe is regarded as one of the most important records ever. Anyway: 1) You got the red and the yellow, you're missing the blue: Beat. Similar to Three of a perfect pair, especially the cover. 2) Check out "Giles Giles and Fripp" and the Fripp-Eno albums. 3) Another live album that you may be interested in is Earthbound from 1972 (Island american tour). Nobody likes it but I do. Cheers
I heard "Schizoid Man" on KRAB-FM Seattle when I was 12 and the next day, I was at the Brass Ear at the Tacoma Mall, hoping to find the debut album. They didn't have it, so I bought what was then the new release, Lizard. I didn't like the singing as much as what I'd heard on the radio, but I still thought it was a pretty cool album. Plus I really, really liked the cover art! I always thought "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" must be gourmet "Cat Food"..
Greatest Crimso albums by order of greatness... Starless, Larks, Red, In the Wake, Lizard, Court, discipline, three of...the later albums are great too but; every crimso head should agree...You're not a crimso head if you haven't heard Red; 100 times at least...:)
@Paneeks1960 To be honest my answer would probably change if I sat down and listened anew. But Thrak and Happy With What You Have to be Happy With come to mind right away.
have only few cd's from KC , was introduced to the band with In The Wake Of Poseidon & Discipline records, those first kicks have remain the favorites, especially track Pictures Of The City, ofcourse first album and Red are music-wise maybe better, 2003 Power To Believe is solid stuff
I did an analysis some years ago of the progression of prog and came to the conclusion that Red was the last GREAT prog album before that tent folded.Lucky for us there's a crapload of great music before that swansong album imho
If you like King Crimson you gotta check out this Record. McDonald And Giles! I found a copy in my collection the other day and was blown away. www.discogs.com/McDonald-And-Giles-McDonald-And-Giles/release/1272370
@@dereckvon But no mention ! Just kidding. Famously badly recorded. There's a Japanese guy on de YT with these great KC concert boots. Have you seen Fripp on his wife's channel ? Hilarious...
I don't think Lizard is a hard album to get into at all... I got it immediately and it's one of my absolute favourite Crimson albums. Plus - Bill Bruford played in the 1981-84 and 1995 lineup. Isn't it great that Fripp is reforming the band?
Lizard has awesome instrumentation, but the lyrics can put you off tbh (Except Lady of The Dancing Water, God bless that song, easily the most beautiful and comfy of King Crimson)
the first eight albums (even including earthbound as unofficially the fifth) were my pick. I don't like discipline/beat/3 of a perfect pair phase as much. the double trio is a return to form somewhat, and the latest with mel back and 3 drummers is fantastic, but as yet no new stuff??
Years ago before Crimson cut their first album, some friends of mine had a band and they rehearsed in the basement of a cafe in Fulham London.
I went along to the rehearsals on several occasions and noticed that there was a stack of equipment in the hallway.
I asked my friends whose equipment it was and they said it belonged to another band that rehearsed there.
I asked what they were called and none of them knew their name, so I took a closer look at the equipment.
I eventually found their name stencilled on one of the cases. King Crimson.
I thought to myself, with a Mellotron and a name like that, they're never gonna make it.
I've just bought tickets for a Crimson gig in Cardiff in October 18 and just hope they're gonna play the same set as the live in Chicago (June 17) double CD and so does my son who's coming with me.
Rog5446 Thats quite amazing ;^)
"Fripp's got everybody working with his ass" @ 4:21 was hilarious.
Great job and a great collection.
I really is amazing when you look at all of the artists that Fripp was able to bring into King Crimson to make special appearances on those three (3) albums after the first album. Keith Tippet is amazing on these records, especially Catfood. Fripp wanted Tippet as a full time member, but Tippet declined. Artists from the Soft Machine camp appear, too, such as Marc Charig and others.
Amazing band that I absolutely love listening to.
@@ericarmstrong6540 growing up in Cleveland Ohio.in the 80s. The drummer of the band i was hooked up with . Well his older brother "Jimmy " moved to San Francisco a few years before. ( a side note . Jimmy was the best guitarist i have ever watched face to face) but Jimmy hooked up with a couple of guys out there and they called themselves Mauer, Juhne , Tippit, Cross. . I had the chance to meet and watch them preform. They were as good as they get. Also Jimmy was always back and forth to Cleveland and San Francisco . But I know of 3 times Alen Holsworth was coming through Ohio and always had Jimmy to open for him. Jimmys band was in SF so he was always scattering around to get some musicians together . And each time they never really had time to practice anything and the shows were always jam up and all jazz improv that could put the finest seasoned musicians in shock. Thank for listening
3 of a perfect pair is underrated. Oh jeez I love this band, I could go on for hours. Great video, much appreciated.
Agree . Their 80s line up is really amazing , They just have a great atmosphere and sound and the Bruford, Fripp, Belew and Levin line up had a great chemistry .
I like 3 of a Perfect Pair way more than Discipline tbh
OK, there's no way Three of a perfect pair is better than Discipline, but it's still a damn good album.
Really underrated.
The man Who sold you haha What happened to you in this exact moment just happened to me
I totally agree with what you said about their first album. Quintessential release. One of the greatest work of art of all time in my opinion.
I love Lizard!! Nice commentary. I like your taste! Looking at a few of your videos. Subscribed!
I have just discovered your videos.A very informative and passionate video about my favorite band.Cheers.
As a 23 year old, I just got into King Crimson… i’ve gone all by life without hearing about them; that was until last week. Thanks for a great vid!
Good video, except i just thought i'd remind you that Red was not Bruford's last album, in fact, Bruford went on to go and do another four albums with the band. That is unless you got mixed up and meant John Wetton as this was his final album with the band.
I caught that, too.
Thank yoy so much for your passion and intelligent observations.
coming to this video from 2020. Him talking about politics going down the drain in 2011. If only we knew back then..
I've been on point a long time.
Excellent commentary on King Crimson. You have a great record collection. I particularly enjoy The White Album, AKA starless and Bible black. Absolutely essential to any record collection. Thanks for posting your videos.
He didn't seem to like that one as much. Who doesn't love that thrashy "Great Deceiver ?"
First of all, Derek, you're more handsome than the Crimson King!
Second of all, Court Of The Crimson King was such an eye opener. The psychedelic era of rock was coming to an end. Prog rock was taking over. That album influenced Yes and Genesis. While In The Wake Of Poseidon took things further from their debut, transition was also apparent. Side 1 is similar to the debut but side 2 is its own entity. Lizard makes the transition more apparent. Red was a blueprint for what a "farewell" album should sound like. Discipline brought King Crimson back together, albiet with new people in tow.
2.25 mins.....you got me laughing there Derek! a humble man who is able to laugh and mock himself is a rare commodity today. So much vanity and selfishness in the world and you destroyed it with that simple piece of humour. Great stuff
I am subscribed. I will take you in timely doses as a busy distributor myself. I appreciate your lifetime efforts.
Just found your channel and love it, keep it up man
This came up, i love this run-down so much
Agree quite a bit with your assessments of the individual LP's. I'm curious what you think of "Islands". I think it's hugely underrated. I also like "Beat" quite well (at least as much as "Discipline")
I think "Discipline", "Beat" & "Three of a perfect Pair" go well together. They play almost like a set (kind of the way Jethro Tull's "Songs From the wood", "Heavy Horses" & "Stormwatch" fit nicely together.)
Considering how widely King Crimson's music would change in the course of a couple of LP's. It's amazing how consistently good every one of these first 10 LP's are.
Islands is beautiful. I have it now.
It IS beautiful. I always felt it was unjustly given a bad rap by the critics. Nice to see it appreciated.
thegalaxybeing Islands is a masterpiece. I saw that lineup and can attest to its brilliance.. but they didn’t do the song Islands.. no pianist or cornet player. It was fare from Lizard Court Wake and Islands and I hadn’t heard Islands so thought it was the Lizard band !!! I was a kid but it made a dramatic impression on me.
I’m so happy that you appreciate Islands... critics suck. They use their poison pens yet aren’t in the arena bleeding for all to see, pouring out their hearts. Islands the song is one of the crowning achievements of the great KC repertoire. Perfect peace...
thegalaxybeing I have a cool KC group on FB if you’re interested. It’s called King Crimson: The Early Years: 69-74. Come join us! 😊 We have a good time discussing other prog too, etc.
Robert Fripp is in my top five guitar players, great retrospective of King Crimson. You motivated me to pull out an old box set "The Great Deceiver", live performances 1973-1974 and put it on the ipod. I will be driving around with K.C. cranked for a couple of weeks now. Thanks!!
Watching in 2020, and your words are still relevant!
I just subbed your channel; really enjoy your energy & your personality & everything :)
I love the first two Crimson records. I listen to them all the time. Stunners. Greg Lake is on the second one also.
Discipline
yes, as a pair...i treat them as a double album.
It's funny how at 5 years old I was very well acquainted with the Chicago Transit Authority album and yet was into my 40's before I ever listened to King Crimson! I agree that the first two releases are a must for anyone that can really "feel" music. According to your video, I have a lot of catching up to do (since I have only listened to the first two albums) and I am looking forward to it! Thank you.
Definitely a KC fan over here. Have you heard THRAK or B'BOOM: Live from Argentina? B'BOOM was an "offical bootleg" recorded during their tour for THRAK in the mid-90s. The song selection is astounding and, sonically, it's a phenomenal recording. Sadly, it has not seen the light of day on vinyl (to my knowledge) yet. Thanks for another good video, Dereck. I enjoyed it. You inspired me to go put on some King Crimson.
that court of crimson king cover is just so powerful, nice vid
Islands is apparently quite underrated - but in that one, Fripp experiments rather with the chamber music instruments.
And the result is just as dreamy as the first record more mellow songs. Love it from end to end.
The Night Watch is one of my all time favourite songs.
I have a print of the Rembrandt painting in my living room. Yes, the song is in reference to the painting...
great video!! nicely put!
I completely agree with what you said about the album In The Court Of The Crimson King, definitely one of the greatest yet most underrated album out there.
So many under appreciated masterpieces. Nice
Discipline is easily one of my top three King Crimson albums along with CotCK and Thrak, though I could never pick an order for them.
The four CDs in the frame by frame collection are absolutely stunning! What a collection.
+Jonathan Keeler I dislike what Fripp did to Cadence and Cascade ( re Frame by Frame)
I have, "In The Court Of The Crimson king", "In The Wake Of Poseidon", "Lizard", "Lark's Tongues In Aspic", and "Red" in my collection. These are my five favorite King Crimson albums. I never got "Islands" or "Starless And Bible Black", as I never really liked those records. And I never got the later ones starting with their 1981 album "Discipline", because i thought they weren't as good, but also I'm running out of room to add more cds and records in my collection!
I did not think I could like you anymore than I did before but after hearing you speak about my second favorite band ever, I have a higher respect for your musical knowledge now. The last time I saw them play live was at the Beacon in NYC, 1997. Great show of course. I also read in your comments that you met them all except for Fripp. Maybe that was a good thing? Fripp is hard to talk to anyways Derek. What is your favorite studio from Discipline on? I would love to know. Thanks Derek!
thanx alot. im so hyped to get on the crimson wagon. there records are so expensive but i imagine its worth it! m starting by buying the reissue of in the court of. im looking for Red aswell. thats the album that turnd me on to crimson but i have to find it cheaper than 30€ or so...
thanx
You have excellent taste in music!
Holy shit.... that wall paper is awesome. It's the first thing I noticed on the video.
King Crimson is one of my favorite bands, but hard to collect for. Whenever I find their stuff, it's usually pricey, but I'm slowly getting everything. The Mellotron shines on most of their 70s albums
Those 3 or 4 early Bruford era albums are my jam.
Man you barely mention Islands ??!!! It’s beautiful too, and totally different... a lot of space, rests. Boz is an excellent singer. The song Islands is so beautiful, it’s beyond description. I saw that lineup, man. Incredible. Mel Collins, Ian Wallace, Boz and Fripp.
Otherwise, really enjoyed the video.
Well, I can only speak from my own feelings. Thanks for sharing yours.
dereckvon Well, perhaps give it a fresh listen. 😉 The cornet solo... wow.
I’m not wild about the soprano bending notes that high however. As a soprano and pianist myself, that’s not something that I find listenable, after maybe two times. I just skip it. Have for years. :) Live, Boz does some scat singing there.
Arkadi Danielyan Start listening more!? All I do is listen to King Crimson! Whatever. I have a double Bachelor of Music degree in both piano and voice, and do know something about King Crimson. I founded and run a KC group and most of the fans I know love Islands. It’s a matter of opinion. But nobody’s opinion is more valuable than another’s anyway, if it is well informed. I saw the Islands lineup perform their last gig together too and it happens to have been in B’ham Alabama. So I certainly have a right to my opinion. You don’t have to be rude about yours.
'a lot of space'
Well I suppose then that the cover art was chosen in good taste.
@@tysfalsehood Good call! I have both jackets.
"Once with the oboe and once without it. One-two-three, two-two-three..."
Love the foldout album covers
@TheMM360 Thanks for commenting and it makes sense that Europe would get it right. I do have all of those other titles but all on cd. I'll show my Fripp solo/collaborations in another video. You can bet I own the Fripp & Eno albums. Thanks again for commenting.
Awesome man! Looking at your other thumbs, I see we both have similar interests! I remember owning LTIA on vinyl but it had a maroon border on the cover. Also, have you ever owned or heard 'The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson'? Great Fripp supervised compilation!
King Crimson Lizard was my introduction to jazz the trumpet on bolero is very reminiscent of Miles Davis Sketches of Spain , Love everything they did in the 80's Discipline being my favourite of that period.
I do admire you, man!
lizards has Jon Anderson on one track. Prince Rupert awakes great job john
@dereckvon
I recommend you some great 70's argentinian bands and solo like: Almendra, Manal, Pescado Rabioso, Invisible, Color Humano, Aquelarre, Polifemo, David Lebón, Luis Alberto Spinetta, Vox Dei, Moris, Etc.
Sure you will enjoy all these bands.
Maybe even Seru Giran. Definitely Invisible and all things from el Flaco Spinetta. I remember Pastoral also being interesting. I'm surprised you left off my favorite: Arco Iris.
@AfterFelicidad97 Greetings. I don't think I have any Argentinian vinyl but here are some of the Argentinian artists I have digitally: Kevin Johansen + the Nada, Gustavo Cerati, Bubu, Las Orejas y la Lengua ti name just a few. I love recommendations if you think there is something I should hear.
hello, a nice review- i saw the marvellous debut of king crimson at hyde park july 5th 69 with rolling stones,and elswhere.they were so good and with fripp on his stool,and the mellotron and strobes it was so much of that magical era.that gave way to the mundane 70s,including crimson.im afraid to me, you cant underestimate the role of pete sinfield who gave the ist 3 albums that kind of barouque mysticism, especially on lizard ! on new years day 71 without drink or drugs me and a friend played lizard,the terry riley and the vistas of a kind of surreal archtypal evocation was so present. the later 70s ones are a bit 2 dimensional techno jazz rock for me. id relly urge you to hear jade warrior,if you havent yet, eg. way of the sun,floating world,kites,and waves ,a kind of effortless mythic soundscape that youll enjoy.
Personally I love starless and bible black, very underrated
Buford never actually left the band. After Red, they went on hiatus, then returned with Discipline, Beat & Three Of A Perfect Pair. Then a second hiatus, which they returned from with the records Vrooom, Thrak, DeconstruKction Of Light and 2003's The Power To Believe. Buford was on all of those records.
Bruford didn't play on The ConstrurKction Of Light and The Power To Believe. That was Pat Mastelotto.
Bruford left following Thrak.
To quote Fripp at the time, King Crimson actually "cease[d] to exist" after the release of Red in September, 1974. Fripp, as the band leader, in essence "pulled the plug" on Crimson for reasons that are well documented for those who wish to read more. They were no longer a going concern and Fripp, Wetton, and Bruford went on to other endeavors after Red. Fripp did keep the ghost of Crimson alive with the release of "USA" and "Young Persons Guide to King Crimson" after their demise.
The re-emergence of King Crimson in 1981 only happened after the new band, "Discipline", was formed in the spring of 1981 and, after playing together for several "play-in" gigs, everyone in the band agreed that instead of the name "Discipline" the group should be called "King Crimson".
@Blueecm I do and have several titles on cd. I focused this video on showing the vinyl. I got to see King Crimson a few times in the last ten years and met Adrian, Tony, Pat Mastellotto and Trey Gunn. I was within talking distance of Robert Fripp but frankly, it was one of the few times I felt too intimidated to speak.
From Giles, Giles & Fripp to In The Court to Wake Of is AMAZING❤
@dereckvon I can't wait to see your Fripp collection. But you should also teach these kids from the vinyl community about Yes, Van der Graaf and Gentle Giant. Or maybe just make a "prog-rock must have" video. Most people today have no idea about what those guys from the progressive scene were up to in the early 70s.
@EarlofSuave308 That'll work. Great Deceiver box set. Sweet.
God this aged perfectly but in the worst way. If only we listened
@TheViol8tor I sure do but I take them out to display the covers without glare.
@EoLoVoX Tes, I have Thrak on cd but not B'boom. I think I have a burned copy of it though. Great great band.
Mornnn..diggn back...cafe' almost done steepn
@AfterFelicidad97 Thank you very much!
2018 is going to be an intriguing year, for sure. Echoes some of what you say in the opening minutes of this seven years ago.
DarkeningSkies1 I didnt quite get what he meant, can you explain?
I took him to mean precisely what he said- that the turmoil in the world will eventually catch up to just about everyone in every society, and leisure time for collecting records and listening to them will likely be thin on the ground. I was simply stating that here in 2018, it is still going in that direction IMHO.
DarkeningSkies1 I dont get it, what is this iminant collaps of society?
A complete collapse of society does not have to happen for people who are already on the line economically to be negatively affected enough to lose their disposable income (i.e. collecting old records) and much of their spare time (i.e. listening to them) ... I took his reaction to the political climate in the U.S. especially to reflect this. Why don't you ask him precisely what he meant?
Thanks Dereck, That was great.
Awesome!!!very good review!THANK YOU :)
King Crimson are a wonderful band. Do you like their work from the 1990's on?
Derek, the album after Discipline and before Three of a Perfect Pair was actually called "Beat". It did have the song "Heartbeat" on it though. I am sure you knew that and probably just pronounced it wrong. Just thought I would tell you.
Rob/Boston
I love king crimson
Ah, he looks like you!
In my opinion, the ONLY Classic Rock band that actually got BETTER after 1980 was King Crimson. I say that as a huge Crimson fan, who LOVED everything they did before Discipline already. But, when Discipline came out, it cut against the grain of everything else going on at that time. It was like Crimson were saying we really don't care what we're being told. We're following our muse - deal with it.
Most of my favorite acts of all time either sold out a bit, burned out a bit, or just quit after about 1979. Not Crimson.
It goes against the pattern of what I think of every other trend, post-1979, to say this, but I DO think Discipline (and Beat) are essential.
I think Three of a Perfect Pair was a bit of a let-down after that, and they've never quite reached that pinnacle again, since. But, every time they do something new, it's still pretty amazing.
A few other acts are kind of like that (Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Peter Gabriel, for instance), but none are so unwilling to cop out and become lame as King Crimson.
"in the wake" almost had elton john on it. fripp decided "no" at last moment. i have always said kCr are a kind of spring fling; very hard to love for a long time. (but i do). they kept changing up as they moved forward. Red is just about my fave, but closely followed by In the court, Beat, Power to believe. only not entranced by islands (original mix release) and Thrak. i tend to have Bowie "scary Monsters" and Gabriel #3 and #4 alongside Beat, 3 of a perfect pair due to shared musicianship and time of release.
Strange thing about lizard: the first time i listened to it I loved it. I don't get the hard to listen to part of it
@TheWestWind17 Thank you.
@TheMM360 Check out some of my older videos. But yes, more features are in the works.
@Paneeks1960 Thank you for the clarification. You're absolutely right.
@waegiz37 Yes, the more recent recordings have been very good.
King Crimson is criminaly lacking from my record-collection. A band I'd love to get into!
@GenesisKnights As I said, it took me awhile to crack it but I would agree that Discipline bears closer scrutiny.
To me In the court of the crimson king is the ultimate rock album and here in Europe is regarded as one of the most important records ever.
Anyway:
1) You got the red and the yellow, you're missing the blue: Beat. Similar to Three of a perfect pair, especially the cover.
2) Check out "Giles Giles and Fripp" and the Fripp-Eno albums.
3) Another live album that you may be interested in is Earthbound from 1972 (Island american tour). Nobody likes it but I do.
Cheers
can you make a video about this talking about jethro tull? thanks
I heard "Schizoid Man" on KRAB-FM Seattle when I was 12 and the next day, I was at the Brass Ear at the Tacoma Mall, hoping to find the debut album. They didn't have it, so I bought what was then the new release, Lizard. I didn't like the singing as much as what I'd heard on the radio, but I still thought it was a pretty cool album. Plus I really, really liked the cover art!
I always thought "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" must be gourmet "Cat Food"..
Lizard is (even more than their other works) an acquired taste tbh.
I do believe is their second best before-larks album.
Greatest Crimso albums by order of greatness... Starless, Larks, Red, In the Wake, Lizard, Court, discipline, three of...the later albums are great too but; every crimso head should agree...You're not a crimso head if you haven't heard Red; 100 times at least...:)
@bigstar1000 Thanks Bigstar1000.
@Paneeks1960 To be honest my answer would probably change if I sat down and listened anew. But Thrak and Happy With What You Have to be Happy With come to mind right away.
I dig it.
@milkcrateraider No doubt.
great job, thanks.
I Can't find the 80s Albums on Vinyl anywhere . Or If I manage to find them it's too expensive .
@SublimMedia Good luck!
Love ya man... Cat Food! Groon... Catch those two rarities, ladies and gentlemen...
Detachable penis. No?
Robert fripp the gates of paradise sounds like marching into hell start
The follow-up to 'Discipline' was 'Beat', not 'Heartbeat'. They're easily my favourite two Fripp albums.
have only few cd's from KC , was introduced to the band with In The Wake Of Poseidon & Discipline records, those first kicks have remain the favorites, especially track Pictures Of The City, ofcourse first album and Red are music-wise maybe better, 2003 Power To Believe is solid stuff
I did an analysis some years ago of the progression of prog and came to the conclusion that Red was the last GREAT prog album before that tent folded.Lucky for us there's a crapload of great music before that swansong album imho
Lizard is AMAZING❤
@stephan73 Go for it!
If you like King Crimson you gotta check out this Record. McDonald And Giles! I found a copy in my collection the other day and was blown away. www.discogs.com/McDonald-And-Giles-McDonald-And-Giles/release/1272370
I have the album, have had it for decades.
Jonathan Kosyjana Thanks, Ill check it out. KC is probably my second favorite band.
I reckon Larks' Tongues in Aspic is one of their most artful efforts. My personal favourite. The Discipline album I feel is underrated.
You have argentinian rock Lps?
My greetings from Argentina.
Wot ! No Earthbound ?
On CD.
@@dereckvon But no mention ! Just kidding. Famously badly recorded. There's a Japanese guy on de YT with these great KC concert boots. Have you seen Fripp on his wife's channel ? Hilarious...
I don't think Lizard is a hard album to get into at all... I got it immediately and it's one of my absolute favourite Crimson albums.
Plus - Bill Bruford played in the 1981-84 and 1995 lineup.
Isn't it great that Fripp is reforming the band?
Adam Nicholls one of my favs too, but it took a while for me
Lizard has awesome instrumentation, but the lyrics can put you off tbh (Except Lady of The Dancing Water, God bless that song, easily the most beautiful and comfy of King Crimson)
What is that tape deck in the background?
the first eight albums (even including earthbound as unofficially the fifth) were my pick. I don't like discipline/beat/3 of a perfect pair phase as much. the double trio is a return to form somewhat, and the latest with mel back and 3 drummers is fantastic, but as yet no new stuff??
"Beat" was my favourite , but they were at their best live.
First time ever I heard someone say Beat was their favorite
Agreed , "Beat" best album, and that line up live, Wow!