Growing up in a relatively poor household, The Cosby Show was my escape. I loved seeing people living in a comfortable house, with plenty of food, nice clothes, no major worries. It made me dream of having a better life one day. Lisa Bonet was so stylish. I always wished I could dress like her, look like her, be like her. I watched every episode of The Cosby Show, and every episode of A Different World. She is still so beautiful, so eloquent, so classy.
As far as class, there was an episode when Theo said, "...we're rich" to his parents and Bill said, "your mother works, I work, we are rich, you are BROKE" (lol).
I liked Lisa on the Cosby show she had a certain style that was appealing. I didn't think she really added anything to A Different World..Jasmine Guys' Whitley definitely eclipsed Denise!!
IKR For some reason on ADW, her character was bland and boring along with everyone else. Thank God Debbie came on and spiced it up or it wouldn't have lasted 2 seasons.
He simply wanted better images for our community. Every issue spoken about in this video had to do with the affect she would have in the black public image. I think he cared more about content. He didnt want his TV daughter to be thought of as sexual. He didnt want his tv daughter being a teen mom so he married ger off. I respect his media decisions.
@@veebran7845 but their are people in real life who live like that. every person in the cosby show were living in tv land they told stories from an upper middle class black family meanwhile their are black families that have more in commin with rosanne and george lopez show than the cosby show. yes i will not deny that their arn't black people that lived like the cosbys (upper middle class) but for others thats not the reality
I love both The Cosby Show and Roseanne. Roseanne more just because that show was absolutely hilarious. The Cosby show was great though and still is. No matter what Cosby did in his personal life, that doesn’t change what his show represented and still does. Roseanne on the other hand should have never been fired from her own show. Absolutely ridiculous!!! Roseanne is what made Roseanne so great. As much as I like John Goodman, The Connors feels forced and to me is not nearly as funny as when Roseanne was a part of the show. ABC really needs to let her come back.
Honestly, Denise was one of my favorite characters. I felt like I could relate to her in a way. I was very sad when she didn't appear in the later seasons of A Different World.
Kai Evans she meant dark as emotional 🙄🙄, you know when you have dark thoughts. Nowhere did it say she is dark skinned, dark or emo-type emotions are common in teens.
Fatumata Gumaneh what are they talking about, she was creative and adventurous. Yeah she should have been more professional. Cosby was trying to help her not break her. When you get a pattern of workmanship in youth, it helps you in your adult years. I am not here to knock Cosby for something none of us really know what happened.
@@kelleymariejones6388 Well we know what happened because Cosby himself admitted it. To drugging women for sex.....and about 60 women have said the same thing.
I honestly it’s hard to separate acting from reality. I think both Phylicia n Bill had trouble with that and kinda looked at her like their on own child. They had no right to be disappointed in her “real” life decisions.
Welcome to the mirror show. Hollywood is not some innocent portrayal of how life is. Actors are the best imitators of real life, which is why we shouldn’t ever listen to their advice about politics and life. We are much happier, trust me 😬
Lisa Bonet is beautiful. She’s married to the gorgeous Jason Momoa (khal drago, Aquaman etc) has 3 beautiful kids, she was never fame hungry. I think she was a lost child on the Cosby show.
@@edwardgaines6561 no that's not the reason. What does her race have to do with her beauty? So, you're saying a biracial woman or black woman can't be beautiful? Shame on you.
Glad they never went with that Denise Pregnant storyline. I wouldnt have benefited the show at all. Even for A Diffrent World. Her getting married in Africa to Martin and having a step daughter Olivia was a twist but benefited the show in the best way.
Still, though what about the young women who had got pregnant and were single and not married? They had a story that needed to be told...they needed to feel that people could understand them...young ladies in those days needed that type of champion. As great as the cosby show was..lots of aspect of being black wasnt touch on, but that's what made A different world so special because they went there
@@swaggerjones81 Good Points! Real good points. My person feeling is what made Cosby so great waa it was not your average black sitcom. It was something like we had never seen. I feel the show "Good times" was so black that we needed another look at black family. Denise being pregnant could have worked, but i just feel it wouldnt benefit the quality of the show but to give it drama. Also i feel people overate how "Perfect" they feel the characters were. The kids did some dumb shit lol Vanessa tried to Marry a 30 yr old man at 19 yrs old 😂. Denise went to Africa one summer and came back married.
The show was made to show black people how they too can live a upper middle class life with education and class. It was too inspire the next generation. Not show people a black character acting stupid or acting violent. Sad that some people don't get that. Many black people would not be successful today had it not been for that show, no matter what offset or onset problems it did more good than harm for a generation of black people. Other wise they still would be maids or have simpler jobs with low income. He and the writers wanted you to aim higher and see you can reach a higher potential.
I always thought they should have had Olivia Denise biological child, the whole step thing was unnecessary but I see time would been a major conflict. Although it's TV so it's not like they couldn't just been like other shows and said WHATEVER!.
Cosby was far from a perfect person, but he wanted to create an image of perfection that black people could look up to. Hollywood was and still is full of this imagery of “white perfection” ... why shouldn’t we have role models? Why should we only get to play taxi drivers, secretaries, drug dealers, sports players ... why can’t we have roles that show we have brains, intellect and education too. Cosby the person. Flawed. The Huxtables were and ARE great role models. Hannibal Buress didn’t do us no favors, and that crab in a bucket saying is very much true. Look at tv now and black people are pretty much set decoration for the Kardashians. Where are the doctors, lawyers, scientist, leaders? ...
@Kai Evans rape doesn't happen unless you use the word Nooooo. If you go to a married mans hotel room for a so called job interview you know its a casting couch interview. If you don't you are very naive. Those women went to party hoping for help from him to get a chance at fame. Its not rape unless you say nooooo.
LifeMiscellanious, you speak the truth!! I agree 100%!! I abhor what black images are on our TV screens, nowadays! I wonder.....what if there had been many more black shows like the Cosby Show, that focused more on uplifting us & showing all different facets of black people?? What kind of black images would be out there, nowadays? Also, Bill Cosby's unfortunate choices in his personal life, ultimately have nothing to do with, the image that he strove for blacks, with the Cosby Show.
I love this comment. "crab in a bucket" is a very accurate description. Most people have no idea how important this image was, and by tarnishing Cosby's name, we tarnished the idea of a successful black family in the modern day. And it was so easy for them to accomplish this. Even with the lack of evidence against him, he is rotting in jail while Brett Kavanaugh is a supreme court justice with the same amount of evidence against HIM.
Now that I'm older and have my own family in my late 40s and my extended family has deserted me and thrown me and my father under the bus, I wish God would fix my sisters and mothers Selfish ways..people who are successful are not necessarily kind, compassionate or caring people: I know that from my selfish mean "brothers in law": they enjoy my downfall in Sadistic ways...Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely
@@newsreader4321 Unfortunately given a lot of power to him was the world really wanting to see that tv series and believe they were the ideal family. This is why it is called "acting". It wasn't real and I was deceived, I was a kid, and did not know anything about such stuff because I was a country girl in rural Oklahoma. I was naive.
@Fatonya Mitchell Theo had what would have been a fight, Vanessa had a fight, Rudy was rude to Bud. Cliff had snow balls thrown at him...all that was part of the Cosby show. So to think that a pregnancy, life, giving birth would have cancelled the show, I don't agree. But, we can agree to disagree.
@Fatonya Mitchellwell seeing what Lisa and Carl (cacaroach) and others say of Cosby and the slander he made of black people and so on, I see why deeply he would not want a pregnancy shown...But we can agree to disagree. Having a baby does not set one back, it makes one have to step up...
I understand too, but that's so hypocritical. He was upset with her for getting pregnant and doing a nudie movie, and he was way more worse. Fondering around with all these women.
Joseph Clegg but that was before when knew what type of person Bill Cosby was now that we know about the stuff he did we know it’s hypocritical but people didn’t know back then
@@josephclegg3562 if someone tells you not to put your hand in the fire or you will get burnt does it make any difference if he is a good person or a bad person sometimes one has to think past their own s
As a person who was raised Middle Class, I'm so glad that they chose not to go the pregnancy route. We as Black people have many different experiences that's not normally shown on TV.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW did he? I mean, those people who were influenced to be successful, crediting his show..did they magically lose thier degrees and position in their chosen field? I can't say he ruined everything. Also can't say that raping was part of this video or comment. Hating Bill today doesn't change what his view for that show was..and that he made the right choice for it
@@agonleed3841 it's not the raping that got him in trouble. It's the hypocrisy. That trial would've never happened had Bill never given the pound cake speech. And Hannibal Burress would've never made that joke, that was the catalyst for the entire thing.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW lmao to me, that's all some bullshit. I mean...mad cause what? A man had a vision of black people doing better as a whole. But because he likes to do drugs and fuck a lot..he's not allowed to have input on whether that should be the image? Think about it. Let's say, like i love to...that he never actually raped anyone. That he just had the drugs, loved sex, those girls loved drugs and sex. they lie on him later when their pockets need help...but right now..we're just talkikng about a man who loves sex and does drugs. ok... He OBVIOUSLY didn't have such an image..which is why it's such a surprise to a lot of people. So...people are mad that he expects black people to be able to have their fun, but still take care of their priorities? Do so in such a manner that taking care of your priorities is the image that we have a s a people, while also being able to enjoy life. THAT'S what people are calling him a hypocrite for. Like..he's talking mostly shit about people who allow their fun to guide their life. In a way that it becomes a negative image for them and us as a whole. This man took care of his shit AND enjoyed his life. People are mad that he wanted them to pull up their pants, speak in a manner that shows an educated mind, don't GIVE the white people more fuel to burn us. AND the response was "NIGGA! YOU can't tell me SHIIIIITTT! You out here fucking too!" Ok...now look at this. Bill's gone. he's shitted on. Does that change that he's right that a LOT of our people are just giving fuel to the haters to burn us with?
@@andresuston7692 being tired of hearing something doesn't change any of the situation. I'm tired of being judged simply because i wear certain colors, clothing, and SIMPLY because my skin is black. Doesn't change that it still happens. What I tell people like you...if you're tired of it..you see it as a problem...then how about find the solution? Why are black people always saying "we as black people"? well, that's obvious. ok. So...let's fix it. If we fix it, then you don't hear it anymore. I don't like hearing my wife complain about her back all the time. But I have to make a distinction on whether she's just complaining because...that's just the thing to do when you've worked long hourse OR it's because the epidural they stuck in her that has that affect of pain lasting long after birth. And this is her second child. Sometimes, I feel like she's looking for sympathy, but before I sound ignorant, make myself look like a fool, and make things worse by not helping but instead insulting...I take the time to look at the evidence of the day...of this particualr complaint. Each and every time. Sometimes, I just tell her to shut up or ignore her. But I point out why. A lot of times, she has a legitimate complaint.
As women we can understand that 'dark vibe' she mentioned. We can be walking across the street and just curve in our steps to avoid a strange man in a crowd of strangers like a reek of badness was eminates from them. Or you meet someone who is pleasant and civil and yet there something untrustworthy beneath the mask. Trust that. It will save you.
@@justus9651 Wasn't this show accused of not having the guts to address real issues in the black community like the Rodney King beating and the aftermath that followed, along with police harassment, gangs, drug wars, just to name a few?
@@dolphquick2686 that's an excellent question Dolph. Truth is... I was too young at the time to be conscious of any of the claims you propose now. I have a white buddy and one thing I noticed when I hang around him and his friends is that they watch shows that only proport the reality that they want to see. They address no social issues and act as if they live in this romanticized, country style fairytale land where everyone wears cowboy hats and Boots. It keeps them in their bubbles and distracts them from reality. The Cosby show did the same thing for us. It was Black Excellence at its best and promoted NOTHING but positivity. Now that LGBT is considered minority, they keep mixing thier shit with OURS but there is plenty of white country shows that they don't touch. We could use a straight and narrow strong Black show on TV. That would be nice.
Yes and I am currently watching all the seasons on Amazon Prime. You know it was so funny growing up watching it and now that I am an adult with children of my own I can relate.
It is truly a rarity in our society, from the sixties to the present, to find anything that is genuinely entertaining, wholesome, and positive at the same time. The Cosby show was all that, no question about it.
I'm glad Lisa Bonet did her own thing and not letting people controlling her. If you can do that, then you will be free. I like her and wish her all the best 😊❤
I think the journey worked out for her. She met Lenny, has a beautiful model / actress daughter, then she met Jason and has two more beautiful children. She has a wonderful blended family. I think she's happy being a mom and supporting Jason's career.
Lisa Bonet was an -D actress, her leaving DW, opened the door for real fantastic team of actors/actresses. Bonet came off spoiled. I would have not let her come back after all that.
Ciaobella Amour yes It is also mentioned in this video, because he wants everybody to be Mr./Mrs. perfect, and expected people to take all these dignified rolls in every movie, that's not how being an actor works, and that's why all their careers never went anywhere...
Ciaobella Amour Somewhat But just because she wasn't Mrs. perfect doesn't mean she was the worst human being ever offset ... Cosby wanted them to be 100% and wouldn't accept 85 to 90 on personality
Freddy Calipari moderately, how many of them didn't, raven Simone was just a kid and she luckily got picked up by Disney early, A lot of people who were just featured on that show with just a couple of episodes seem to be more successful such as Merlin Santana, But a lot of the main cast on that show you didn't hear from again, And malcolm Wasn't really consistently on anything that I can remember, Malcolm and Eddie didn't last that long for the exact same reason he wanted that show to be another Cosby show, what the hell could you expect from Eddie Griffin
Terran - I've personally experienced what you are saying in a few relationships... So it has some validity. I don't think it applies here tho, since she was fired for her behavior. If she had *quit* for being out of control, then it would apply. As far as what I have experienced in relation to what I think you may have also experienced... We can't control other people behavior unless there is a legal contract or blackmail involved. Even then, they are no absolute guarantee. People do what they want to do and our expectation of what that should be is irrelevant. We can't change other people into something they are not just because we want them to be that person. They may alter their behavior to appease you while in your presence, but as soon as they are away from you they revert to their natural self. You can't change other people into becoming something they are not. It's hard enough changing our own behavior into something we want to be. Accept them for who they really are and hope they accept you the same. Trying to change one another into what we think each other should be never works out for the positive. In other words... If your bitch is an out of control slut with no accountability to your sacred relationship commitments, then maybe she isn't the right bitch for you. Unless you get off on that. Otherwise get out and network and find someone more compatible to what you expect in a partner. Maybe I'm way off in my assumption about you. But there are others who will read this too, and hopefully it will help them to not waste any time trying to change another, or to just accept others for who they really are. World will be a better place if we all can do that.
@@kentneumann5209 she was not fired because of her behavior. Please don't get caught up in that lie. When all this shit hit the fan five years ago, it was stated that everything on the show was fine... Until she married Lenny Kravitz. Her firing was almost IMMEDIATE. We can't say it was cause of drugs, cause Felecia Rashard was HEAVILY on coke while doing the show. It was Hollywood in the 80's... Everybody was on something. They just couldn't do it once they got to the set. He really fired that girl because she met somebody her age and fell for them and not him.
The reality is Lisa Bonet's black father left her when she was young so she always had issues with black male authority. You know light skin was seen as the best in the 80s so they took so long to let her go because she was the fan favorite. Cosby went waaay beyond what he was supposed to do by giving her her own show while other white executives wouldn't have dealt with her nusance. She did not thrive after Angel Heart unfortunately but this is a lesson for all people, dont bite the hand that feeds you.
Exactly! Cause Bonet was a -D actress to me. They definitely went above & beyond for not a great actress. Jasmine Guy and the team of Different World were far more deserving, they were an excellent team of actors/actresses.
@@showtimesportsmedia6906 he tried to portray black ppl in a different light, and I'm sure he was not the worst exec managing a cast. Before Cosby, who else cared enough to bring a better light to black families everywhere? Lisa had major father-daughter issues, & had an attitude with Cosby It couldn't have been that bad, if she kept going back. Shat, if things were that bad, why didn't she pursue film only? Why did she come back after DW, after her pregnancy, & more!?
Yes, Cosby gave her a shot at stardom, she was not his daughter tho and even if she was he was not supposed to stop her from flying and soaring in her career! I don't think she wanted to remain Denise Huxtable for the the remainder of her career! There's no biting of hands here she was able to eat because of him but respect the woman as well and let her control her own Journey
It’s kinda funny through my TV, I could recognize Lisa Bonet and Cree Summer we’re SPIRIT creatures. Societal limits were NOT going to detain them. They would martyr their acting careers if something didn’t FEEL right. That’s called integrity and I can definitely respect that.
That mindset, just like feminism, does not work for Black people in a White Supremacist society. We have been duped for generations to think that we can say, have and do anything we want and feel "free" like White people. NOPE. Different set of rules for us. Whatever heights you reach and riches you accumulate in life is rightfully yours, you have earned it through your efforts...however, it can be taken away from you by THOSE people in more ways than one should they so desire it AND there will be others who look just like YOU who will be willing participants in your downfall. That is how THOSE people maintain keeping us under their heel.
@@seanedwell That is YOUR assumption. You're in your own twilight zone, because you are projecting your standards and expectations onto others. Just because said black actor/actress gets sexual with said white person on the screen, casted by white director does NOT mean that those black people are doing anything FOR white people, lol. You crack me up! We do not have to tweak how we are acting (on screen or real life) out of fear of what is being projected in society. Cosby's vision for how he wanted blacks to be seen is just that, a vision that was sponsored by his own undying suppressed egoistic desires. Lisa was the undying, transparent opposite of him - going against the grain and countering what society projects onto black-identified people. She was doing things the way she wanted to do them and that was killing his vision. You don't have to agree, but I say living your life honestly and out loud without guilt is a lot better than trying to suck up to society and killing yourself over trying to "prove" yourself worthy of respect from others. The overall outcome of Lisa's future to Bill's is very telling.
All these "supposed to be" 24/7, but really WannaBe Pro Blacks on here. Are y'all working for black owned companies, or spending ya money at those same black owned only companies??? Lisa made millions "working for the white man" as y'all say, while y'all making nickels and dimes....working at white owned/ran companies. 😂😂😂
*That part about struggling to play something you're not cannot be true.* How can you struggle to play an upper middle class teenager because you never were, and then not struggle to play in a rated X roll? That's what actors do, act; they're hypocrites, always playing who/what they are not. She should have listened to Mr Cosby, after she did that Angel Heart movie her career was done. After that, If it were not for Mr Cosby she would not have been on TV at all. If she'd listened to him as the others did she would have gone to college and received a degree. Some people are just ungrateful.
@lockstam I don't think that's what he's saying. I think the point is that it's just a pathetic excuse for her to try to say that she had difficulty with the show because of her role there, if she was able to get naked and have chicken blood poured on her and get disgusting with Mickey Rourke in an x-rated flick... If you can do the second one, it shouldn't be that hard to do the first. The issue of class rarely even came up on the show, she was largely just playing her rebellious, strong-willed self. For it she became financially set for life, or should have been, and just gave everybody hell to show her appreciation. I hear what you're saying about being an actor, but part of being an actor is also showing up on time, knowing your lines, doing what you're under contract and being paid handsomely to do. Please, let's stop with the excuses already.
@@nicvanorton6795 Yeah nic, I'm sure you'd know all about that. But why complain now? You should have complained right after he finished doing your pap smear, bitch.
He just thought her topless pics and sexual movie role would tarnish his bread and butter show. I used to LOVE his stand-up comedy and The Cosby Show. But now everyone knows that he's a dirt bag.
the pregnancy story arc would not have worked on a different world. it would've turned the show into the usual black sitcoms.....and that wasn't what a different world was all about. thank you Bill....thank you Mr. Cosby
@Roy G Biv High achieving African Americans who don't become unwed parents is not a fantasy, it does happen a lot. You can find that across all groups but, African Americans always are made the poster people for what ails society.
@Roy G Biv No, YOU try again. AAs achieve way more than is given credit. Again, you can find positive and negative from any ethnic group. It all depends on who's doing the reporting.
@@nicvanorton6795 Several times a post lets you know they are black. So one guy lets you know that he is white and gets attacked. Where is the fairness in that? By the way, I am white. What does that have to do with it? Not a damn thing more than being black. He was a great comedian with a great show that was loved by many regardless of race.
@@nicvanorton6795 Not in the asking but in the why of asking. No one questioned anyone stating or insinuating they are black. So why did people question him for saying he is white? I agree with Lord Belial " I am putting what you (nkryptchn 02) said down to you saying it's not only black folks that watch and like the show considering it's a show about blacks."
@@sissy20088 It was a foolish statement, that's why I questioned it. Liking a sitcom has nothing to do with color. It's obvious that not only blacks watch it, if only 13% of the population liked the show it wouldn't have made it passed the first season.
As a young adult in the 80’s I loved the Cosby show as well as A Different world. Lisa Bonnet was one of my favorites event cha . She danced to her own drums and I always enjoyed that. I could relate to that. Her character and her way of being “Denise Huxtable” was wonderful. She added depth and color to her character. She was also amazing in Angel Heart.
Exactly! Why did she keep coming back if it was so horrific. After being given DW, why did she ask to come back?! Unless someone does something specifically to you, or you witnessed him doing something, Bonet should never insinuate anything about Cosby.
I dont think he was trying to be evil on that show or even had any attraction to her. It sounds like he based this show on his family so much he thought he could run it like he ran his own family. He also cared a lot about the african American and what we were learning as children at the time. Very judgemental, controlling, ignorant, uppity, caring, and mean. There were a lot of things that appreciated from this show before any of this. Its disappointing but I'll never forget how watching that family made me feel... I wanted that.
I have to agree with Bill on this one. Particularly with the Angel Heart role. She didn’t need to smut herself out for white Hollywood in some trashy ass movie with Mickey Rourke for god sake...of all people. She was black royalty and that all went away after she lowered herself to that role.
@SARA yea he probably dipped out to escape the mother, im not condoning abandoning your child but a lot of the times the mothers are extremely difficult to deal with and even push the father away some times. Ultimately, her not having a father is probably why her and Bill didn't get along, a father is a childs first/most authoritative figure and she missed that growing up. I see it all the time, I can usually tell who did and didnt have a father growing up.
Which is where someone like Bill could’ve done a better job of looking out for her best interest. But if he had “dark energy” in his aura then I can understand Lisa not taking heed to his advice @ Cantkillwills
Every man wants to take care of their children. Unfortunately in a system of white supremacy, there has been an agenda to oppress black men which has lead to the separation of families and black men making desperate unhealthy suicidal choices with their lives in order to cope with the oppression. @ SARA
Dr. Cosby didn't lie about Lisa Bonet's role in Angel ❤️. It wasn't a Positive "breakout" for Lisa, which she has NEVER admitted but her Silence speaks Volumes. I'm glad Dr. Cosby rejected the idea of Denise Huxtable being Pregnant. I Love Lisa Bonet but You don't bite the ✋ that Fed you.
charlene mckinney are you serious if those allegations are true about him drigging woman then thats a billion times worse then what she's done and lisa was a grown woman she can do whatever she wants bill cosby is a hypocrite!!! Thats why good times will always be the better show!!!
Lisa choose to do something that really tanked her career. She is a shadow that does not exist in entertainment. Her rebellion killed her potential. Cosby created two iconic shows the the black community. Cosby had several shows actually and cartoons that are iconic despite what has happened in the news.
That's probably why Denise did such a good job on the Cosby show, she was herself on it. I always loved the episodes when she was on it. She seemed almost like she wasn't even acting. It came so natural for her to play the part of Denise. That's because she was playing a part not much different than she really was in real life. Sometimes those are the best actors to watch. But even with the fall out of her and Bill, she was still one of my favorite on the show.
@@adamsamuel8593 Weed is related to the Basil/Oregano/Mint family CREATED by The Divine. It's the additives and processing that effects it's Natural state!
Nope she never didnt anything major outside bill Cosby and different world. She had bad taste in strips. But you never know, bill Cosby could have black list her.
@@darthonyx2382 I'm still not convinced about "what he was" beyond an influential entertainer whose brand ultimately represented a lifestyle different than certain aspects of his personal life. He wanted the people he worked with, especially children like Bonet was at the time, to represent themselves in a wholesome way. That's not a bad thing no matter what else he did. A crackhead on the corner can say "don't do drugs"...so I should grab a crackpipe because she's a hypocrite?
Kudos to Bill for trying to maintain a picture of family structure in a real world that see just the opposite. I think he just wanted to inspire what he thought was positive; the power of Hollywood already produces images that negatively affect society
@@Bryantthewizz So did many other shows. The only problem is that people think Bill Cosby and his character on the show are the same person. They are not.
I loved the Cosby Show growing up as a teen in the 80s although i must say it wasn't the only show that portrayed middle or upper class African Americans during that era there was also 227 & Amen & before Cosby Show there was The Jeffersons & that was about an upper class African American family in a way.
There’s a lot of people in these comments defending Cosby damn. Lisa was never perfect but she was young and it’s clear Bill was kind of obsessed with her. It’s clear he wanted the women around him to do as he told them and she never did. Good for her. She was always my favorite from the Cosby Show.
Right! giving him a pass for what he did he probably was touching her but maybe he was trying to be a father figure to her but she rebelled because he said no to the wannabe princess
Wow 👀 so that makes her free from al the wrong choices she made huh? Wow. Women are scary now and days cant wait to see where the thoughts of late bloom take us
rainbowbunniie There have been many young actors that knew how to follow the director rules. Lisa seems to be a rebel without a cause. Lisa could not conduct herself with little to no respect on one of Spike Lee films. I would think Mr. Lee wouldn’t tolerated any form of disrespect on his set. What makes Dr. Cosby any different?
Cosby was building a brand. And the character Denise was a part of that brand. He didn't stop her from being an actor and try a new roles. It just didn't fit the brand that he had built. Years later we only know her for the character Denise. So in the end was Cosby really wrong?
I guess you could say that if you overlook the fact that he gave young women drugs to have them fall asleep with their mouths open...... I think he was very wrong.
I can appreciate him wanting to build a brand and secure his legacy. But he could’ve included a morality clause in her contract that would prevent her from doing certain types of feature films until her contract was up or if he was satisfied with her work ethics a renewal. He had no right to be judgmental with her choice of roles. She is after all an actress and he was not her father but a co-worker albeit a powerful one but a fellow employee when you get down to brass tacks.
I highly respect Lisa Bonet bc she was sooo much like my oldest sister. I love her 80s style: her makeup, hair, attitude & her clothes! I admired her honesty & how she takes control of her life. She was the icon for the Black community. She was showing us that nothing is perfect but having the parents will always be there for u, no matter what. Now I can understand why she was fired bc of her being late & being high & time was money! But what I dont like how Bill Cosby had to control his "children" to be perfect as their roles. That is too much pressure to do that! However, surprisingly, her "siblings" admired her & respect her for what Lisa did for her life, not Denise's life.
This show is so important to the culture still to this day. Idk too many people who have let the realities of Cosby’s life stop them from still talking positive about The Cosby Show. This still remains my favorite show and the memories and great feelings the show gave me still remain. This show made me see that a Black Family should be represented through all their skin colors because not every family is the same color, I’m talking more so the children that came from both parents instead of other parents. I loved that the show was very positive and included real life circumstances children and teenagers get into as they’re growing up and finding their way. I was a kid watching this and they definitely helped raise me, to be honest. Also, the entire cast influenced me enough to want to be an actor. Denise’s journey on the show as well as Lisa’s real life journey on the show is still such a big combined story for me and her story actually came at the right time. If it were a show of the late 2000s or the 2010s, her story would’ve probably been blown up EXTREMELY to the point where more controversy would occur and who knows, maybe she’d even come forward and fully discuss her thoughts and feelings. Actors were more hush hush back in the 80s and 90s. Overall, I appreciate every single cast member that joined or appeared on this show. They all had a positive part of my upbringing❤️ especially Raven-Symoné, who I ended up following for the remainder of her career ❤️✊🏾
She was the worst actress on A Different World but I respect that she drew the Cosby Show audience in the initial season. Once she left A Different World, the show was much better.
@@angeljohnson6665 that's a personal preference but the Cosby Show and A Different World definitely had more impact. I can't tell you how many people went to college and aspired to be doctors and lawyers because of those 2 shows.
I remember that Denise actually came off as a real live genuine adolescent trying to find her way, listening to her parents but looking for independence and wanting to follow her own star. I can't say that any of the other Cosby kids made much of an impression. Theo was the stereotypical goofy kid always messing up but never a real problem ever and ever the butt of Bill's one line put downs. That part of the show got predictable and old as hell real fast. Cosby was controlling and judgemental and felt himself the conscious of, and the spokesman for the Black community.
I believe Lisa. One can at times feel or sense others vibes I know I've felt em a couple times in my life from people I've met. Ya just gotta learn to trust your gut feelings.
Bill Cosby created such an epic show. I still watch it to this day. I think full house was inspired by this show. Which is another show I love. I love family shows that deals with real life stuff. And no family show dealt with heavy stuff about family and other things like the Cosby show. It was a masterpiece.
Look I grew up watching this show and love it. But I remember the media frenzy about cosby and lisa bonet troubles. And I love her quote in this video I feel that way too. Shes gifted in that sense and well something tells me he did her dirty and that caused her to rebel on the show just my 2 cents. That's why they always clashed.
In my humble opinion, they Cosby/Bonet are connected on another kind of level, in a Father daughter way that is hard to explain, and tuff to experience. They have an innerstanding. Each knows the other one ain't shit on so many levels but they know it, accept it,and respect each other because of it. None of the other kids got their own show😐 Carl Payne (coach roach) got fired for not cutting his hair. And you never heard nothing about any of the other kids. That's why he would never fire her, created a whole show to give each other space... This is when your child is karma nibbling on your ass so that it feels like a tickle not a bite all at once.
Too nad cosby show will never be on the same level as fresh prince fresh prince was funnier and had serious moments unlike cosby show who played it safe!!!
In my STRONGLY opinion, the Cosby Show always going to be a groundbreaking show in television history! It's just a fact that Bill Cosby is working with Lisa Bonet during that time...and explaining to her "Look!!!! We can do better than this having this conversation instead of working with Robert Deniro next movie Angel Heart!" In that case, things will workout between them in the loving way!👍👍👍❤
Lisa aka Denise was definitely my favorite Cosby kid!! The Cosby Show along with Different World is my top 2 favorite sitcoms. Followed by Martin & Fresh Prince of Belair, & now Empire & Power. The reason I wanted to go to college growing up was because of Different World. Bill Cosby may have had his demons BUT you can't take away is positive impact on the black community!!
You can’t blame her either. Even if she did what he wanted to the letter, it wouldn’t have guaranteed her a successful career and the rest of the cast is living proof. Hollywood is fickle like that.
@@acnelson75 ..lol BS...she F#@$ed Mickey Rourke on camera what good can possibly come of that? OK nothing is truly guaranteed period But a definite path to destruction is biting the hand that feeds you....ask my last dog..oh wait you cant
we really dont know much. We only have the word of a slew of white women who were deliberately and willfully sleeping with a married man, taking drugs and partying with not only Cosby but Hugh Hefner, Harvey Weinstein, etc...
She never even said that tho...it was a fake account that made those tweets. Lisa doesn’t have any social media accounts. Besides Cosby treated her like shit back in the 80s and 90s so any animosity she may have towards him is justified
ctsphang No she didn’t. Her publicist and manager came out and clarified that those comments were not real. Her daughter Zoe was the one who said that she was “disgusted and concerned” and also said her mother “had no prior knowledge and has no comments to make”. Lisa never came out and attacked Cosby if you actually read the article
Lisa Bonet's acting was lame, everyone else were far more believable/great actors/tresses. Even if bonet came from a single parent home, you are an actress, you should be able to portray anything.
@@lonelyenchantress2172 gurllllll both Lauren & Lisa are in a box. Lauren says her dimples are the reason her career hasn't elevated & no one needs to tell us that Lisa is too damn ghetto to be moved ffwd. Think Vivica A Foxx
Benben Ben Her acting on ADW was the worse! As soon as she left that show and they brought Debbie Allen on board as a producer ADW became a real black show!
I always felt that Lisa Bonet wasn’t happy with the Cosby Show. The first season she seem to fit right in, by the second season you could see her mood change, as though she didn’t want to be there. I remember Phylicia Rashad saying in an interview that Lisa Bonet’s Mother who is White only come to the filming on the set maybe twice, while all the other kids parents like Malcolm Jamal’s Parent were very involved on the set, and in their kids career. I felt like Lisa Bonet was going through a rebellion period, like most teens do. Although Bill Cosby outside situation harmed his reputation, I still admirer his work. However I do think he was very strict, because according to Carl Payne who played Theo’s friend Cock Roach, he was fired for refusing to cut his hair. So it was obvious that Bill Cosby was very serious about how he wanted his show, the characters, it’s reputation to be, and Bonet did the opposite of that. I was disappointed when she was left out of the show, and wasn’t in the last episode. She still was one of my favorites because she did March to her own drummer.
Her mood changed bcus she was into drugs and those demons she had been battling. When you don t know WHO you are....you look to the wrong people. When she did 't listen and did that crazy movie all because she wanted to be accepted by the main stream. They used her and spit her out! Her career died right after it. She didn't wanna listen to Mr. Cosby or anyone else. She felt she knew better. Where was her mother? She needed someone to check her. The show she despised the most is how people still relate to her....... ungrateful behind.
So let me say this, #1 Denise Huxtable is the FAVORITE child. I don't understand why people are saying she wasn't a good fit, she definitely brought something to the show. In fact, she was so well liked by Cosby and the fans, he gave her her own show. #2 Lisa Bonet was a grown woman, she had the right to get married to the great Lenny Kravitz and give him a beautiful daughter. Bill had control issues, and the problem is once she married a rock star he could no longer control her. #3 the movie and the nude scene, maybe it wasn't the best move, if she signed a contract saying she wouldn't take nude roles I can understand the network having issues with it. That breaks a contractual agreement. #4 once she became pregnant with Zoe cosby was livid! Debbie begged bill for her to stay, and to write the pregnancy in the show. Because contrary to popular belief black women get pregnant every day in college and guess what? They have the baby finish college. I know teen moms with doctorate degrees, so I personally believe that Debbies storyline about Denise becoming pregnant would have been good for the culture because it's relatable. So forget about the perfect image, let's speak facts about the black community and the issues within. #5 let's fast forward to today. Looking at where they both are. Lisa is married to Aquaman, she's gracing the red carpet, she's booking roles again while cosby is in prison. And the fact that she couldn't book a gig until he fell from grace should show you all that he blackballed this woman. Which asked the question, if he loved her so much in the beginning, y end her career the way he did? What was really going on BTN them behind the scenes? Love you Lisa! Keep shining girl!
Very good documentary. I didn't know there was tension between the two. It shows now when I watch reruns. My only beef with the whole situation, and understand where Lisa is coming from; you cant do your own thing on a show you didn't create. The purpose of the show was to portray a black family in a positive lens. You cant deteriorate from that if you agree with the message.... it seems like Lisa's father leaving has something to do with the possibility of her not accepting a black man as a leader. Much respect for Cosby for what he did. Million of black children watched the show wishing they had a family like the one portrayed on tv. Thanks for sharing!
I enjoyed watching Lisa Bonet act on the Cosby/DW...she not doing bad at all....was once married had a beautiful daughter from the sexiest man alive plus she is married to the finest gotdamn man in the world....hello....
I admire this show because I liked it.How family look like about teenagers and little one.How to deal about different situations.We need more of it these days for example.God bless you All.
Every role she's played, it was the same character. Her only advantage was her pretty face. Now that she's older, she's not as pretty as before. So Hollywood has nothing to do with her!
@@lonelyenchantress2172 Nah, Lisa Bonet was FINE AS FUCK, while Jennifer Aniston was NEVER fine. To even compare the two is an insult both Lisa and fine ass chicks. Courtney Cox was hotter than Jennifer. All Jennifer Aniston ever had was that corny ass hairstyle that every white girl copied back in the 90s.😂🤣😆
I don't know what he saw in her in the first place in terms of acting. In my opinion, she couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag. Yeah, she can come back years later and make some spoooky references about "A dark shadow." From the get-go I saw and recognized her as a loony toon and a disrespecter of authority/the status guo, as many kids were during those days. She fell right in place with she rest of them.
There is a lot behind the charging and conviction of Bill Cosby. Check into his long going battles with the city regarding his land, the numerous times they have offered $, even threatened. For what .... mineral rights LOtS of them. He did not cave. Just look deep and see where you stand with his convictions.
@@I.can_feel_it.in.the_air That wouldn't surprise me at all, corrupt officials in america appear to be the norm these days. I doubt Cosby was entirely blameless but there's always parasites ready.
Growing up in a relatively poor household, The Cosby Show was my escape. I loved seeing people living in a comfortable house, with plenty of food, nice clothes, no major worries. It made me dream of having a better life one day. Lisa Bonet was so stylish. I always wished I could dress like her, look like her, be like her. I watched every episode of The Cosby Show, and every episode of A Different World. She is still so beautiful, so eloquent, so classy.
@Wales Eakes every single show is fake, is all acting of course. But we can’t deny that tv shows bring happiness to most of us
that last sentence is cap.
As far as class, there was an episode when Theo said, "...we're rich" to his parents and Bill said, "your mother works, I work, we are rich, you are BROKE" (lol).
Love that episode! Vanessa got in trouble at school for fighting. She said she hit the girl cause she called her rich, hilarious!
Lol, his expression was funny!!
I was just thinking about that episode recently. Lol.
I remember that one 😂
“You have nothing.” Dr. Huxtable said that once apiece to Vanessa and Theo.
I liked Lisa on the Cosby show she had a certain style that was appealing. I didn't think she really added anything to A Different World..Jasmine Guys' Whitley definitely eclipsed Denise!!
IKR For some reason on ADW, her character was bland and boring along with everyone else. Thank God Debbie came on and spiced it up or it wouldn't have lasted 2 seasons.
@@andresuston7692 💯
You aint lyin
@@andresuston7692 Honestly, I always thought her acting skills sucked.
@@treece1493 YEAH
when I see her, I still see that episode when she made the shirt for Theo, still say that was the funniest one ever
Oh, the Gordon Gartrel shirt? 😆
😂
great memory and show. CLASSIC
Denise: Maybe if you tucked it in more.
Theo: ITS TUCKED INTO MY SOCKS!
Can’t believe I still remember that.
Did she pierce Theo's ear as well? He wore the headphones without any music coming out.
Sound like Mr. Cosby couldn’t get out the role of the Characters father.
I guess he wanted her to make wise choices. I mean the folks on the other show had Sinise things to say.
He simply wanted better images for our community. Every issue spoken about in this video had to do with the affect she would have in the black public image. I think he cared more about content.
He didnt want his TV daughter to be thought of as sexual. He didnt want his tv daughter being a teen mom so he married ger off. I respect his media decisions.
@@veebran7845 but their are people in real life who live like that. every person in the cosby show were living in tv land they told stories from an upper middle class black family meanwhile their are black families that have more in commin with rosanne and george lopez show than the cosby show.
yes i will not deny that their arn't black people that lived like the cosbys (upper middle class) but for others thats not the reality
This young lady is one of the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN
It's too bad the shows legacy has been destroyed by Cosbys personal life. I grew up watching this show and loved it.
I love both The Cosby Show and Roseanne. Roseanne more just because that show was absolutely hilarious. The Cosby show was great though and still is. No matter what Cosby did in his personal life, that doesn’t change what his show represented and still does. Roseanne on the other hand should have never been fired from her own show. Absolutely ridiculous!!! Roseanne is what made Roseanne so great. As much as I like John Goodman, The Connors feels forced and to me is not nearly as funny as when Roseanne was a part of the show. ABC really needs to let her come back.
Personal life there is no proof he did that to those women women can lie on men just to see them suffer
He slept with alot of women but he had fame and money that they found attractive in him
I still watch it & laugh till this day.
Paul Bahen yeah but I’ve never watched it
That must be a World's Record. Man speaks in monotone for over 10 minutes with absolutely no vocal fluctuation.
😂😂😂😂 Black Ben Stein
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But his video was still very good and informative
Okurrr lol..im like wtf his voice is so plain
Honestly, Denise was one of my favorite characters. I felt like I could relate to her in a way. I was very sad when she didn't appear in the later seasons of A Different World.
She acted like any typical, dark, rebellious, turbulent teenager. Trying to find herself in a judgemental industry.😒😒😒
She was not dark what are you talking about?
Kai Evans she meant dark as emotional 🙄🙄, you know when you have dark thoughts. Nowhere did it say she is dark skinned, dark or emo-type emotions are common in teens.
@@fg1434 People are so sensitive about race even when the comment has nothing to do with race.
Fatumata Gumaneh what are they talking about, she was creative and adventurous. Yeah she should have been more professional. Cosby was trying to help her not break her. When you get a pattern of workmanship in youth, it helps you in your adult years. I am not here to knock Cosby for something none of us really know what happened.
@@kelleymariejones6388 Well we know what happened because Cosby himself admitted it. To drugging women for sex.....and about 60 women have said the same thing.
Denise was my favorite character, Lisa Bonet is so beautiful and I admired her greatly.
Sandy Wichmann I liked rudy👧🏾
I honestly it’s hard to separate acting from reality. I think both Phylicia n Bill had trouble with that and kinda looked at her like their on own child. They had no right to be disappointed in her “real” life decisions.
It’s funny because apparently the things that cosby was doing Off ser didn’t fit the mold of the Cosby show either.
That irony! He was so busy portraying a standard to throw millions off
Right..Cosby real life was far WORST than angel heart.
Welcome to the mirror show. Hollywood is not some innocent portrayal of how life is. Actors are the best imitators of real life, which is why we shouldn’t ever listen to their advice about politics and life. We are much happier, trust me 😬
BLOOP
Allegedly...
Lisa Bonet is beautiful. She’s married to the gorgeous Jason Momoa (khal drago, Aquaman etc) has 3 beautiful kids, she was never fame hungry. I think she was a lost child on the Cosby show.
Akari Findlay-Robinson she's a very Beutiful and amazing women ❤
@@marjietoney4872 Because she's light-skinned, right?
Loved her in Angelheart.
@@edwardgaines6561 no that's not the reason. What does her race have to do with her beauty? So, you're saying a biracial woman or black woman can't be beautiful? Shame on you.
@@sparklingdaisy3169 interesting how her life turned out and the direction Cosbys took
Glad they never went with that Denise Pregnant storyline. I wouldnt have benefited the show at all. Even for A Diffrent World. Her getting married in Africa to Martin and having a step daughter Olivia was a twist but benefited the show in the best way.
Still, though what about the young women who had got pregnant and were single and not married? They had a story that needed to be told...they needed to feel that people could understand them...young ladies in those days needed that type of champion. As great as the cosby show was..lots of aspect of being black wasnt touch on, but that's what made A different world so special because they went there
@@swaggerjones81 good answer
@@swaggerjones81 Good Points! Real good points. My person feeling is what made Cosby so great waa it was not your average black sitcom. It was something like we had never seen. I feel the show "Good times" was so black that we needed another look at black family. Denise being pregnant could have worked, but i just feel it wouldnt benefit the quality of the show but to give it drama. Also i feel people overate how "Perfect" they feel the characters were. The kids did some dumb shit lol Vanessa tried to Marry a 30 yr old man at 19 yrs old 😂. Denise went to Africa one summer and came back married.
The show was made to show black people how they too can live a upper middle class life with education and class. It was too inspire the next generation. Not show people a black character acting stupid or acting violent. Sad that some people don't get that. Many black people would not be successful today had it not been for that show, no matter what offset or onset problems it did more good than harm for a generation of black people. Other wise they still would be maids or have simpler jobs with low income. He and the writers wanted you to aim higher and see you can reach a higher potential.
I always thought they should have had Olivia Denise biological child, the whole step thing was unnecessary but I see time would been a major conflict. Although it's TV so it's not like they couldn't just been like other shows and said WHATEVER!.
Cosby was far from a perfect person, but he wanted to create an image of perfection that black people could look up to. Hollywood was and still is full of this imagery of “white perfection” ... why shouldn’t we have role models?
Why should we only get to play taxi drivers, secretaries, drug dealers, sports players ... why can’t we have roles that show we have brains, intellect and education too.
Cosby the person. Flawed. The Huxtables were and ARE great role models.
Hannibal Buress didn’t do us no favors, and that crab in a bucket saying is very much true.
Look at tv now and black people are pretty much set decoration for the Kardashians. Where are the doctors, lawyers, scientist, leaders? ...
@Kai Evans rape doesn't happen unless you use the word Nooooo. If you go to a married mans hotel room for a so called job interview you know its a casting couch interview. If you don't you are very naive. Those women went to party hoping for help from him to get a chance at fame. Its not rape unless you say nooooo.
LifeMiscellanious, you speak the truth!! I agree 100%!! I abhor what black images are on our TV screens, nowadays! I wonder.....what if there had been many more black shows like the Cosby Show, that focused more on uplifting us & showing all different facets of black people?? What kind of black images would be out there, nowadays? Also, Bill Cosby's unfortunate choices in his personal life, ultimately have nothing to do with, the image that he strove for blacks, with the Cosby Show.
Roderick McKinney there are plenty of perfect people out there. Imperfection or the idea of being imperfect is all subjective
I love this comment. "crab in a bucket" is a very accurate description. Most people have no idea how important this image was, and by tarnishing Cosby's name, we tarnished the idea of a successful black family in the modern day. And it was so easy for them to accomplish this. Even with the lack of evidence against him, he is rotting in jail while Brett Kavanaugh is a supreme court justice with the same amount of evidence against HIM.
30 ÷ 6 = 5. Exactly! But don't judge who you don't know, especially, when the enemy is telling the story
She doesn’t fit any mold that’s what makes her so special.
Now that I'm older and have my own family in my late 40s and my extended family has deserted me and thrown me and my father under the bus, I wish God would fix my sisters and mothers Selfish ways..people who are successful are not necessarily kind, compassionate or caring people: I know that from my selfish mean "brothers in law": they enjoy my downfall in Sadistic ways...Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely
@@newsreader4321 Unfortunately given a lot of power to him was the world really wanting to see that tv series and believe they were the ideal family. This is why it is called "acting". It wasn't real and I was deceived, I was a kid, and did not know anything about such stuff because I was a country girl in rural Oklahoma. I was naive.
Yep.
I agree with Cosby's decisions for the show and Denise's character.
They could have hid her pregnancy as they hid the moms pregnancy. You don't fire someone because they get pregnant as that against the law
I love all the seasons of "The Cosby Show", but I think seasons 1 thru 4 were the funniest.
Im glad he didn't go with the pregnancy skit.
@Fatonya Mitchellcouldn't he have the lady from the Jefferson's on the show and show how more people can come together?
@Fatonya Mitchellfor having Lenny Kravits mom on the show who was the biological grandmother of Bonet's child? it was in the 80s I thought
@Fatonya Mitchell Theo had what would have been a fight, Vanessa had a fight, Rudy was rude to Bud. Cliff had snow balls thrown at him...all that was part of the Cosby show. So to think that a pregnancy, life, giving birth would have cancelled the show, I don't agree. But, we can agree to disagree.
@Fatonya Mitchellwell seeing what Lisa and Carl (cacaroach) and others say of Cosby and the slander he made of black people and so on, I see why deeply he would not want a pregnancy shown...But we can agree to disagree. Having a baby does not set one back, it makes one have to step up...
Moreh Yeshiah History Lessons yeah
I understand what Bill Cosby was trying to say about the movie Lisa was in. he probably didn’t word it the right way during their conversation
I understand too, but that's so hypocritical. He was upset with her for getting pregnant and doing a nudie movie, and he was way more worse. Fondering around with all these women.
Joseph Clegg but that was before when knew what type of person Bill Cosby was now that we know about the stuff he did we know it’s hypocritical but people didn’t know back then
@@josephclegg3562 if someone tells you not to put your hand in the fire or you will get burnt does it make any difference if he is a good person or a bad person sometimes one has to think past their own s
I understand what my woman was saying. And she said it right "My obligation wasn't to Denise. I felt obligated to myself and my career."
@@EricaShady10171972 and hey "career" crashed & burned
As a person who was raised Middle Class, I'm so glad that they chose not to go the pregnancy route. We as Black people have many different experiences that's not normally shown on TV.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW did he? I mean, those people who were influenced to be successful, crediting his show..did they magically lose thier degrees and position in their chosen field?
I can't say he ruined everything.
Also can't say that raping was part of this video or comment.
Hating Bill today doesn't change what his view for that show was..and that he made the right choice for it
@@agonleed3841 it's not the raping that got him in trouble. It's the hypocrisy. That trial would've never happened had Bill never given the pound cake speech. And Hannibal Burress would've never made that joke, that was the catalyst for the entire thing.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAW lmao
to me, that's all some bullshit.
I mean...mad cause what? A man had a vision of black people doing better as a whole. But because he likes to do drugs and fuck a lot..he's not allowed to have input on whether that should be the image?
Think about it. Let's say, like i love to...that he never actually raped anyone. That he just had the drugs, loved sex, those girls loved drugs and sex. they lie on him later when their pockets need help...but right now..we're just talkikng about a man who loves sex and does drugs. ok...
He OBVIOUSLY didn't have such an image..which is why it's such a surprise to a lot of people.
So...people are mad that he expects black people to be able to have their fun, but still take care of their priorities?
Do so in such a manner that taking care of your priorities is the image that we have a s a people, while also being able to enjoy life.
THAT'S what people are calling him a hypocrite for.
Like..he's talking mostly shit about people who allow their fun to guide their life. In a way that it becomes a negative image for them and us as a whole.
This man took care of his shit AND enjoyed his life.
People are mad that he wanted them to pull up their pants, speak in a manner that shows an educated mind, don't GIVE the white people more fuel to burn us.
AND the response was
"NIGGA! YOU can't tell me SHIIIIITTT! You out here fucking too!"
Ok...now look at this.
Bill's gone. he's shitted on. Does that change that he's right that a LOT of our people are just giving fuel to the haters to burn us with?
"We as black people".....I'm so sick of hearing that.
@@andresuston7692 being tired of hearing something doesn't change any of the situation.
I'm tired of being judged simply because i wear certain colors, clothing, and SIMPLY because my skin is black. Doesn't change that it still happens.
What I tell people like you...if you're tired of it..you see it as a problem...then how about find the solution?
Why are black people always saying "we as black people"?
well, that's obvious.
ok. So...let's fix it.
If we fix it, then you don't hear it anymore.
I don't like hearing my wife complain about her back all the time. But I have to make a distinction on whether she's just complaining because...that's just the thing to do when you've worked long hourse OR it's because the epidural they stuck in her that has that affect of pain lasting long after birth. And this is her second child.
Sometimes, I feel like she's looking for sympathy, but before I sound ignorant, make myself look like a fool, and make things worse by not helping but instead insulting...I take the time to look at the evidence of the day...of this particualr complaint. Each and every time.
Sometimes, I just tell her to shut up or ignore her. But I point out why.
A lot of times, she has a legitimate complaint.
As women we can understand that 'dark vibe' she mentioned. We can be walking across the street and just curve in our steps to avoid a strange man in a crowd of strangers like a reek of badness was eminates from them. Or you meet someone who is pleasant and civil and yet there something untrustworthy beneath the mask. Trust that. It will save you.
that dark vibe is something she just came up with because she didn't get along with cosby...in the past she never said this ya'll so gullible.
Cosby was RIGHT!! He did well giving US something to look up to. Wish we had SOMETHING like this today for our children.
@michael gray one without any essence of the gay agenda . The Cosby show walked a straight and narrow line. That's what I miss about it.
@@justus9651 Wasn't this show accused of not having the guts to address real issues in the black community like the Rodney King beating and the aftermath that followed, along with police harassment, gangs, drug wars, just to name a few?
@@dolphquick2686 that's an excellent question Dolph. Truth is... I was too young at the time to be conscious of any of the claims you propose now. I have a white buddy and one thing I noticed when I hang around him and his friends is that they watch shows that only proport the reality that they want to see. They address no social issues and act as if they live in this romanticized, country style fairytale land where everyone wears cowboy hats and Boots. It keeps them in their bubbles and distracts them from reality. The Cosby show did the same thing for us. It was Black Excellence at its best and promoted NOTHING but positivity. Now that LGBT is considered minority, they keep mixing thier shit with OURS but there is plenty of white country shows that they don't touch. We could use a straight and narrow strong Black show on TV. That would be nice.
Right... them qualudes were starting to make Lisa act goofy lol.
AKA Lane That’s what I’m screaming!
Lisa Bonet One Of The Finest Girls At Her Time 😍😍😍.
Soooo basically they had a father and daughter relationship in real life 🤔
That's exactly what it was
🤣😂 Exactly
When power falls in the wrong hands uufff Star of the show ! 💫
Right..lol
@Gene Paulk he's having a great time in prison. He even plays Dr. Huxtable for the inmates. I wish I were joking...
Regardless of everything that went on behind the scenes I will always respect the Cosby Show.......☝️♥️
My family religiously watched this show, remember Bud's introduction at Rudy's birthday party? Best episode
ALWAYS
Yes and I am currently watching all the seasons on Amazon Prime. You know it was so funny growing up watching it and now that I am an adult with children of my own I can relate.
It is truly a rarity in our society, from the sixties to the present, to find anything that is genuinely entertaining, wholesome, and positive at the same time. The Cosby show was all that, no question about it.
I think it is destroyed. No integrity.
I'm glad Lisa Bonet did her own thing and not letting people controlling her. If you can do that, then you will be free. I like her and wish her all the best 😊❤
What an ironic spin; the rebellious nature that got her the gig is the same one that got her fired from the job.
I think the journey worked out for her. She met Lenny, has a beautiful model / actress daughter, then she met Jason and has two more beautiful children. She has a wonderful blended family. I think she's happy being a mom and supporting Jason's career.
Lisa Bonet was an -D actress, her leaving DW, opened the door for real fantastic team of actors/actresses. Bonet came off spoiled. I would have not let her come back after all that.
Didn’t the relationship between them started to get ruined after she did them sex scenes alongside Mickey Rourke in some movie 🤔
Ciaobella Amour yes It is also mentioned in this video, because he wants everybody to be Mr./Mrs. perfect, and expected people to take all these dignified rolls in every movie, that's not how being an actor works, and that's why all their careers never went anywhere...
Keye T that too would make things uncomfortable & unnatural af
The character in a show is completely different than real life person 🤷🏽♀️
Ciaobella Amour Somewhat But just because she wasn't Mrs. perfect doesn't mean she was the worst human being ever offset ... Cosby wanted them to be 100% and wouldn't accept 85 to 90 on personality
Keye T malcolm had a good career
Freddy Calipari moderately, how many of them didn't, raven Simone was just a kid and she luckily got picked up by Disney early, A lot of people who were just featured on that show with just a couple of episodes seem to be more successful such as Merlin Santana, But a lot of the main cast on that show you didn't hear from again, And malcolm Wasn't really consistently on anything that I can remember, Malcolm and Eddie didn't last that long for the exact same reason he wanted that show to be another Cosby show, what the hell could you expect from Eddie Griffin
He couldn't control her so she was fired.
She was wise to roofies. Bill dint like that.
@@Hanzyscure Maybe she was on to him and his abuse.
He couldn't *fuck* her, so she was fired... When he found out someone else did, and got what he couldn't... Punishment.
Narcissist.
Terran - I've personally experienced what you are saying in a few relationships... So it has some validity.
I don't think it applies here tho, since she was fired for her behavior.
If she had *quit* for being out of control, then it would apply.
As far as what I have experienced in relation to what I think you may have also experienced...
We can't control other people behavior unless there is a legal contract or blackmail involved.
Even then, they are no absolute guarantee.
People do what they want to do and our expectation of what that should be is irrelevant.
We can't change other people into something they are not just because we want them to be that person.
They may alter their behavior to appease you while in your presence, but as soon as they are away from you they revert to their natural self.
You can't change other people into becoming something they are not.
It's hard enough changing our own behavior into something we want to be.
Accept them for who they really are and hope they accept you the same.
Trying to change one another into what we think each other should be never works out for the positive.
In other words...
If your bitch is an out of control slut with no accountability to your sacred relationship commitments, then maybe she isn't the right bitch for you.
Unless you get off on that.
Otherwise get out and network and find someone more compatible to what you expect in a partner.
Maybe I'm way off in my assumption about you.
But there are others who will read this too, and hopefully it will help them to not waste any time trying to change another, or to just accept others for who they really are.
World will be a better place if we all can do that.
@@kentneumann5209 she was not fired because of her behavior. Please don't get caught up in that lie. When all this shit hit the fan five years ago, it was stated that everything on the show was fine... Until she married Lenny Kravitz. Her firing was almost IMMEDIATE. We can't say it was cause of drugs, cause Felecia Rashard was HEAVILY on coke while doing the show. It was Hollywood in the 80's... Everybody was on something. They just couldn't do it once they got to the set. He really fired that girl because she met somebody her age and fell for them and not him.
The reality is Lisa Bonet's black father left her when she was young so she always had issues with black male authority. You know light skin was seen as the best in the 80s so they took so long to let her go because she was the fan favorite. Cosby went waaay beyond what he was supposed to do by giving her her own show while other white executives wouldn't have dealt with her nusance. She did not thrive after Angel Heart unfortunately but this is a lesson for all people, dont bite the hand that feeds you.
Chinwude Tv he was manipulative and controlling
Exactly! Cause Bonet was a -D actress to me. They definitely went above & beyond for not a great actress. Jasmine Guy and the team of Different World were far more deserving, they were an excellent team of actors/actresses.
@@showtimesportsmedia6906 he tried to portray black ppl in a different light, and I'm sure he was not the worst exec managing a cast. Before Cosby, who else cared enough to bring a better light to black families everywhere?
Lisa had major father-daughter issues, & had an attitude with Cosby
It couldn't have been that bad, if she kept going back. Shat, if things were that bad, why didn't she pursue film only? Why did she come back after DW, after her pregnancy, & more!?
Yes, Cosby gave her a shot at stardom, she was not his daughter tho and even if she was he was not supposed to stop her from flying and soaring in her career! I don't think she wanted to remain Denise Huxtable for the the remainder of her career! There's no biting of hands here she was able to eat because of him but respect the woman as well and let her control her own Journey
I thought her vibe was weird on the show, couldn't act, n the later seasons she always look high as a dam kite
It’s kinda funny through my TV, I could recognize Lisa Bonet and Cree Summer we’re SPIRIT creatures. Societal limits were NOT going to detain them. They would martyr their acting careers if something didn’t FEEL right. That’s called integrity and I can definitely respect that.
Then why not just quit? She could have put in her two weeks. Why show up late? Why not show up at all?
Slurring yourself out for white people is integrity? Sheesh we must be in the twilight zone
That mindset, just like feminism, does not work for Black people in a White Supremacist society. We have been duped for generations to think that we can say, have and do anything we want and feel "free" like White people. NOPE. Different set of rules for us. Whatever heights you reach and riches you accumulate in life is rightfully yours, you have earned it through your efforts...however, it can be taken away from you by THOSE people in more ways than one should they so desire it AND there will be others who look just like YOU who will be willing participants in your downfall. That is how THOSE people maintain keeping us under their heel.
@@seanedwell That is YOUR assumption. You're in your own twilight zone, because you are projecting your standards and expectations onto others. Just because said black actor/actress gets sexual with said white person on the screen, casted by white director does NOT mean that those black people are doing anything FOR white people, lol. You crack me up!
We do not have to tweak how we are acting (on screen or real life) out of fear of what is being projected in society. Cosby's vision for how he wanted blacks to be seen is just that, a vision that was sponsored by his own undying suppressed egoistic desires. Lisa was the undying, transparent opposite of him - going against the grain and countering what society projects onto black-identified people. She was doing things the way she wanted to do them and that was killing his vision. You don't have to agree, but I say living your life honestly and out loud without guilt is a lot better than trying to suck up to society and killing yourself over trying to "prove" yourself worthy of respect from others. The overall outcome of Lisa's future to Bill's is very telling.
All these "supposed to be" 24/7, but really WannaBe Pro Blacks on here. Are y'all working for black owned companies, or spending ya money at those same black owned only companies??? Lisa made millions "working for the white man" as y'all say, while y'all making nickels and dimes....working at white owned/ran companies. 😂😂😂
Moral of the story ,always trust your intuition about someone. Vibes don’t lie. Lisa Bonet is out of this world ❤️
*That part about struggling to play something you're not cannot be true.* How can you struggle to play an upper middle class teenager because you never were, and then not struggle to play in a rated X roll? That's what actors do, act; they're hypocrites, always playing who/what they are not.
She should have listened to Mr Cosby, after she did that Angel Heart movie her career was done. After that, If it were not for Mr Cosby she would not have been on TV at all. If she'd listened to him as the others did she would have gone to college and received a degree. Some people are just ungrateful.
@lockstam I don't think that's what he's saying. I think the point is that it's just a pathetic excuse for her to try to say that she had difficulty with the show because of her role there, if she was able to get naked and have chicken blood poured on her and get disgusting with Mickey Rourke in an x-rated flick... If you can do the second one, it shouldn't be that hard to do the first. The issue of class rarely even came up on the show, she was largely just playing her rebellious, strong-willed self. For it she became financially set for life, or should have been, and just gave everybody hell to show her appreciation. I hear what you're saying about being an actor, but part of being an actor is also showing up on time, knowing your lines, doing what you're under contract and being paid handsomely to do. Please, let's stop with the excuses already.
I just think Cosby took on a real life father figure role for all of his Cosby kids back then. For better or for worse.
Yes, and the role of a gynecologist as well.
@@nicvanorton6795 Yeah nic, I'm sure you'd know all about that. But why complain now? You should have complained right after he finished doing your pap smear, bitch.
He just thought her topless pics and sexual movie role would tarnish his bread and butter show. I used to LOVE his stand-up comedy and The Cosby Show. But now everyone knows that he's a dirt bag.
Rebecca Austin yup
the pregnancy story arc would not have worked on a different world. it would've turned the show into the usual black sitcoms.....and that wasn't what a different world was all about. thank you Bill....thank you Mr. Cosby
They could have hid it like they did when Phyllicia was pregnant with Condola.
Your right.
@Roy G Biv High achieving African Americans who don't become unwed parents is not a fantasy, it does happen a lot. You can find that across all groups but, African Americans always are made the poster people for what ails society.
@Roy G Biv No, YOU try again. AAs achieve way more than is given credit. Again, you can find positive and negative from any ethnic group. It all depends on who's doing the reporting.
@Roy G Biv it's fantasy that a young girl would not get pregnant? Really?
So, she was just being her unique self...nothing wrong with that.
I'm a white guy and this was one of my fav shows.
It was great..
And you being white means what?
@@nicvanorton6795 Several times a post lets you know they are black. So one guy lets you know that he is white and gets attacked. Where is the fairness in that? By the way, I am white. What does that have to do with it? Not a damn thing more than being black. He was a great comedian with a great show that was loved by many regardless of race.
sissy20088 Asking someone why their color matters is an attack? Really? As you already stated, it doesn’t matter, hence my question.
@@nicvanorton6795 Not in the asking but in the why of asking. No one questioned anyone stating or insinuating they are black. So why did people question him for saying he is white? I agree with Lord Belial " I am putting what you (nkryptchn 02) said down to you saying it's not only black folks that watch and like the show considering it's a show about blacks."
@@sissy20088 It was a foolish statement, that's why I questioned it. Liking a sitcom has nothing to do with color. It's obvious that not only blacks watch it, if only 13% of the population liked the show it wouldn't have made it passed the first season.
As a young adult in the 80’s I loved the Cosby show as well as A Different world. Lisa Bonnet was one of my favorites event cha . She danced to her own drums and I always enjoyed that. I could relate to that. Her character and her way of being “Denise Huxtable” was wonderful. She added depth and color to her character. She was also amazing in Angel Heart.
If it wasn't for Uncle Bill we would all be saying Lisa who .
Exactly! Why did she keep coming back if it was so horrific. After being given DW, why did she ask to come back?!
Unless someone does something specifically to you, or you witnessed him doing something, Bonet should never insinuate anything about Cosby.
@@benben6306 you ain't lying
@@DavidBentley23 Brother you need many many yrs of fucking therapy
@@DavidBentley23 Epstein, clinton, charlie Sheen, Ed Buck, Dershowitz, Britain Andrews, weinstein, are all greater guys.
Benben Ben who said they were?
We can always say that what he created was history & amazingly wonderful.
I dont think he was trying to be evil on that show or even had any attraction to her. It sounds like he based this show on his family so much he thought he could run it like he ran his own family. He also cared a lot about the african American and what we were learning as children at the time. Very judgemental, controlling, ignorant, uppity, caring, and mean. There were a lot of things that appreciated from this show before any of this. Its disappointing but I'll never forget how watching that family made me feel... I wanted that.
I thought that it's been known for years that it was because she got pregnant
Bruh ! This is the reason
No, she did an X-rated film. She told that damn pregnant lie
Lisa Bonet has an right to live her life!!!!
Bill Cosby is not her father!!!!
No/yes playing an role does not mean that is how you are in real life!!!!
I have to agree with Bill on this one. Particularly with the Angel Heart role. She didn’t need to smut herself out for white Hollywood in some trashy ass movie with Mickey Rourke for god sake...of all people. She was black royalty and that all went away after she lowered herself to that role.
she didnt have a father so what did you expect?
@SARA yea he probably dipped out to escape the mother, im not condoning abandoning your child but a lot of the times the mothers are extremely difficult to deal with and even push the father away some times. Ultimately, her not having a father is probably why her and Bill didn't get along, a father is a childs first/most authoritative figure and she missed that growing up. I see it all the time, I can usually tell who did and didnt have a father growing up.
Which is where someone like Bill could’ve done a better job of looking out for her best interest. But if he had “dark energy” in his aura then I can understand Lisa not taking heed to his advice @ Cantkillwills
Every man wants to take care of their children. Unfortunately in a system of white supremacy, there has been an agenda to oppress black men which has lead to the separation of families and black men making desperate unhealthy suicidal choices with their lives in order to cope with the oppression. @ SARA
@SARA yea those men exist but hey, who chooses those men?
Dr. Cosby didn't lie about Lisa Bonet's role in Angel ❤️. It wasn't a Positive "breakout" for Lisa, which she has NEVER admitted but her Silence speaks Volumes. I'm glad Dr. Cosby rejected the idea of Denise Huxtable being Pregnant. I Love Lisa Bonet but You don't bite the ✋ that Fed you.
charlene mckinney are you serious if those allegations are true about him drigging woman then thats a billion times worse then what she's done and lisa was a grown woman she can do whatever she wants bill cosby is a hypocrite!!! Thats why good times will always be the better show!!!
Or perhaps he wanted to bed her instead and couldn't
Cliff-“Let’s keep this show classy!” Bill- “Drink this drink I mixed for you!”
LMFAO
Lisa always looked sad to me. I'm glad she found Jason.
I always thought she looked angry with an attitude.
She still looks like she's so unhappy until this day. Never see her smiling
Lmao 😂
I feel like Jason hitting younger girls behind her back or he he’s aging entanglements
@@iplaysoftball9172 idk, he seems to really love her.
Ay comedy hype I love you bro...you are rare with what u do....keep grinding my brother!!??
Lisa choose to do something that really tanked her career. She is a shadow that does not exist in entertainment. Her rebellion killed her potential. Cosby created two iconic shows the the black community. Cosby had several shows actually and cartoons that are iconic despite what has happened in the news.
Scoops uhm I dont think she cares 🤷🏾♀️. I think she has exactly what she always wanted now.
@@oc4515 yeah true, but she is very self sabotaging.
You ppl know nothing smh
@@DonaldSeymourjr Did she ever say she wanted to be a life long TV and movie star??
@@oc4515 👍
That's probably why Denise did such a good job on the Cosby show, she was herself on it. I always loved the episodes when she was on it. She seemed almost like she wasn't even acting. It came so natural for her to play the part of Denise. That's because she was playing a part not much different than she really was in real life. Sometimes those are the best actors to watch. But even with the fall out of her and Bill, she was still one of my favorite on the show.
Wait she smoked weed? So that's why she looked stoned in some of her old pictures 😮😮😮
avi's random videos nothing wrong with smoking weed. Cigarettes kill ppl everyday not weed just saying
@@broadwayblack5782 Weed was created for medical purposes not for smoking. Mix weed and Cigarette and you will damage your lungs.
Adam Samuel weed was not “created” it’s a natural plant. It grows naturally in the ground, just like flowers and vegetables
avi's random videos lol
@@adamsamuel8593 Weed is related to the Basil/Oregano/Mint family CREATED by The Divine. It's the additives and processing that effects it's Natural state!
Maybe she was woke before everyone else.
Many people in his inner circle knew what he was, I'm willing to bet so did she!
Nope she never didnt anything major outside bill Cosby and different world. She had bad taste in strips. But you never know, bill Cosby could have black list her.
@@tarikrobertson she had bad taste in scripts*?
@@darthonyx2382 I'm still not convinced about "what he was" beyond an influential entertainer whose brand ultimately represented a lifestyle different than certain aspects of his personal life. He wanted the people he worked with, especially children like Bonet was at the time, to represent themselves in a wholesome way. That's not a bad thing no matter what else he did. A crackhead on the corner can say "don't do drugs"...so I should grab a crackpipe because she's a hypocrite?
@@tarikrobertson she didn't kiss his ass
Kudos to Bill for trying to maintain a picture of family structure in a real world that see just the opposite. I think he just wanted to inspire what he thought was positive; the power of Hollywood already produces images that negatively affect society
@therese fassie I hope that's not true. Still love the positive image that show did for race relations in this country
Cosby isn't the only one, allegedly, just the main one they chose to display.
@@Bryantthewizz He cheated on his wife. That is true.
@@Michelle-pn9xt true. But, the Cosby Show had a positive effect on many.
@@Bryantthewizz So did many other shows. The only problem is that people think Bill Cosby and his character on the show are the same person. They are not.
Why on earth did Bonet take the role if she resented the character’s lifestyle?
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I loved the Cosby Show growing up as a teen in the 80s although i must say it wasn't the only show that portrayed middle or upper class African Americans during that era there was also 227 & Amen & before Cosby Show there was The Jeffersons & that was about an upper class African American family in a way.
I feel like Lisa Bonet never really fit in the Cosby show.She just seemed like she wasn't in it like the rest.Just my opinion.
Well yeah, that's largely what this video is laying out in detail.
right bc in families everyone is the same. her not fitting in was weird
There’s a lot of people in these comments defending Cosby damn. Lisa was never perfect but she was young and it’s clear Bill was kind of obsessed with her. It’s clear he wanted the women around him to do as he told them and she never did. Good for her. She was always my favorite from the Cosby Show.
I definitely agree.
Right! giving him a pass for what he did he probably was touching her but maybe he was trying to be a father figure to her but she rebelled because he said no to the wannabe princess
Wow 👀 so that makes her free from al the wrong choices she made huh? Wow. Women are scary now and days cant wait to see where the thoughts of late bloom take us
rainbowbunniie
There have been many young actors that knew how to follow the director rules. Lisa seems to be a rebel without a cause. Lisa could not conduct herself with little to no respect on one of Spike Lee films. I would think Mr. Lee wouldn’t tolerated any form of disrespect on his set. What makes Dr. Cosby any different?
A J : Negro Please!
A fashion icon, a style icon and charismatic. Most of us only watched the show to see her and her alone.
Lisa Bonet is so beautiful omg haha.
Cosby was building a brand. And the character Denise was a part of that brand. He didn't stop her from being an actor and try a new roles. It just didn't fit the brand that he had built. Years later we only know her for the character Denise. So in the end was Cosby really wrong?
I guess you could say that if you overlook the fact that he gave young women drugs to have them fall asleep with their mouths open...... I think he was very wrong.
I can appreciate him wanting to build a brand and secure his legacy. But he could’ve included a morality clause in her contract that would prevent her from doing certain types of feature films until her contract was up or if he was satisfied with her work ethics a renewal. He had no right to be judgmental with her choice of roles. She is after all an actress and he was not her father but a co-worker albeit a powerful one but a fellow employee when you get down to brass tacks.
He was wrong for firing her as they could have hid her pregnancy just like they did the moms.
I highly respect Lisa Bonet bc she was sooo much like my oldest sister. I love her 80s style: her makeup, hair, attitude & her clothes! I admired her honesty & how she takes control of her life. She was the icon for the Black community. She was showing us that nothing is perfect but having the parents will always be there for u, no matter what. Now I can understand why she was fired bc of her being late & being high & time was money! But what I dont like how Bill Cosby had to control his "children" to be perfect as their roles. That is too much pressure to do that! However, surprisingly, her "siblings" admired her & respect her for what Lisa did for her life, not Denise's life.
No she wasn’t she was an icon for the biracial/mixed community
And before anybody gets on my case name one time she spoke on black issues...I’ll wait. She’s only spoken on being mixed
I love her hairstyles from season 6-7.
This show is so important to the culture still to this day. Idk too many people who have let the realities of Cosby’s life stop them from still talking positive about The Cosby Show. This still remains my favorite show and the memories and great feelings the show gave me still remain. This show made me see that a Black Family should be represented through all their skin colors because not every family is the same color, I’m talking more so the children that came from both parents instead of other parents. I loved that the show was very positive and included real life circumstances children and teenagers get into as they’re growing up and finding their way. I was a kid watching this and they definitely helped raise me, to be honest. Also, the entire cast influenced me enough to want to be an actor. Denise’s journey on the show as well as Lisa’s real life journey on the show is still such a big combined story for me and her story actually came at the right time. If it were a show of the late 2000s or the 2010s, her story would’ve probably been blown up EXTREMELY to the point where more controversy would occur and who knows, maybe she’d even come forward and fully discuss her thoughts and feelings. Actors were more hush hush back in the 80s and 90s. Overall, I appreciate every single cast member that joined or appeared on this show. They all had a positive part of my upbringing❤️ especially Raven-Symoné, who I ended up following for the remainder of her career ❤️✊🏾
She was the worst actress on A Different World but I respect that she drew the Cosby Show audience in the initial season.
Once she left A Different World, the show was much better.
Yes that's what I said, I like her but her acting in a different world was not very good 💯🤷
Cosby show and diffrent world is ok but family matters is better
@@darkmodehaley yep. She was supposed to be acting like she didn't want to be at Hillman but it felt like she didn't want to be on the show.
The show was fire after she left. Credit to Debbie Allen she is a genius.
@@angeljohnson6665 that's a personal preference but the Cosby Show and A Different World definitely had more impact. I can't tell you how many people went to college and aspired to be doctors and lawyers because of those 2 shows.
I remember that Denise actually came off as a real live genuine adolescent trying to find her way, listening to her parents but looking for independence and wanting to follow her own star. I can't say that any of the other Cosby kids made much of an impression. Theo was the stereotypical goofy kid always messing up but never a real problem ever and ever the butt of Bill's one line put downs. That part of the show got predictable and old as hell real fast. Cosby was controlling and judgemental and felt himself the conscious of, and the spokesman for the Black community.
I believe Lisa. One can at times feel or sense others vibes I know I've felt em a couple times in my life from people I've met. Ya just gotta learn to trust your gut feelings.
Bill Cosby created such an epic show. I still watch it to this day. I think full house was inspired by this show. Which is another show I love. I love family shows that deals with real life stuff. And no family show dealt with heavy stuff about family and other things like the Cosby show. It was a masterpiece.
Lisa Bonet was bae af growing up lol .. BIG FACTS 😍
Look I grew up watching this show and love it. But I remember the media frenzy about cosby and lisa bonet troubles. And I love her quote in this video I feel that way too. Shes gifted in that sense and well something tells me he did her dirty and that caused her to rebel on the show just my 2 cents. That's why they always clashed.
In my humble opinion,
they Cosby/Bonet are connected on another kind of level, in a Father daughter way that is hard to explain, and tuff to experience.
They have an innerstanding.
Each knows the other one ain't shit on so many levels
but they know it, accept it,and respect each other because of it.
None of the other kids got their own show😐
Carl Payne (coach roach) got fired for not cutting his hair.
And you never heard nothing about any of the other kids.
That's why he would never fire her, created a whole show to give each other space...
This is when your child is karma nibbling on your ass so that it feels like a tickle not a bite all at once.
That's an Interesting analysis.
bill liked them Light apparently
Too nad cosby show will never be on the same level as fresh prince fresh prince was funnier and had serious moments unlike cosby show who played it safe!!!
Angel Johnson
Different generation
WTF?
DAMN THAT NASTY ROLE WITH MICKEY ROUKE, DIDN'T HELP LISA'S CAREER, NOT AT ALL
I love that movie
@@lochofmceo OOF
LoL nasty is right-,)))
Cosby didn’t let it either..
they had sex in that movie and Cosby knew it
In my STRONGLY opinion, the Cosby Show always going to be a groundbreaking show in television history! It's just a fact that Bill Cosby is working with Lisa Bonet during that time...and explaining to her "Look!!!! We can do better than this having this conversation instead of working with Robert Deniro next movie Angel Heart!" In that case, things will workout between them in the loving way!👍👍👍❤
@Roy G Biv Nope! I graduated!😉
@Roy G Biv Enough said!😉 I know the true story!👍
Damn, Lisa was & still is so damn beautiful!!! Lenny Kravitz was a lucky man!! Look at their beautiful lovechild, all grown up.
Damn David letterman called it‼️ She eventually went back home‼️
Hmm...i cant really blame Cosby for wanting to protect his characters....bonets career never did take off so her choices weren't great...
THE COSBY SHOW WAS THE BEST WE EVER HAD IN BLACK AMERICA. AND THE BEST THING COSBY EVER DID.
Next to picture pages and fat Albert!
Facts! 💯 So many black show and black stars came out of that
I really didn’t care for The Cosby Show but I watched it periodically. Now I watched Fat Albert regularly. Hey, hey, hey.
@@Survivor58 Fat Albert we use to watch all time when we were young
timhoward5 Everyone I knew watched Fat Albert also.
My favorite episode was the one where Denise has her boyfriend go over dinner and he’s a smarty pants. He challenges Cliff and Claire’s professions. 😂
@pieldnieve oh...that was a good one..forgot about that one..😁💯
the boyfriend was played by Kristoff St. John
Kristoff St. John, Neil from the "Young and the Restless.' RIP Kristoff.
Lisa aka Denise was definitely my favorite Cosby kid!! The Cosby Show along with Different World is my top 2 favorite sitcoms. Followed by Martin & Fresh Prince of Belair, & now Empire & Power. The reason I wanted to go to college growing up was because of Different World. Bill Cosby may have had his demons BUT you can't take away is positive impact on the black community!!
At the end of the day , she is an actress... so why would her real life be how she acted in movies
Always had a crush on Lisa Bonet, but I respect her much more now that I've heard this.
Cosby was "possessive" in his way. Eff that man.
She had a mind of her own...shonuff...one that sent her career to the toilet.....love him or hate him but you can't blame bill for that fumble...
Siti Maan
True
I agree
Funny, but the first time I saw that show, I thought there's no family resemblance at all in this casting.
You can’t blame her either. Even if she did what he wanted to the letter, it wouldn’t have guaranteed her a successful career and the rest of the cast is living proof. Hollywood is fickle like that.
@@acnelson75 ..lol BS...she F#@$ed Mickey Rourke on camera what good can possibly come of that?
OK nothing is truly guaranteed period
But a definite path to destruction is biting the hand that feeds you....ask my last dog..oh wait you cant
Angel heart-1987 caused the most controversy
It was a terrible film..
With what we now know about Bill Cosby I've often wondered what really happened between them.
we really dont know much. We only have the word of a slew of white women who were deliberately and willfully sleeping with a married man, taking drugs and partying with not only Cosby but Hugh Hefner, Harvey Weinstein, etc...
after twenty years , now , she says he had negative energy!? Girl, bye
She never even said that tho...it was a fake account that made those tweets. Lisa doesn’t have any social media accounts. Besides Cosby treated her like shit back in the 80s and 90s so any animosity she may have towards him is justified
@@Dinnerthedaythebanksareopen, Lisa Bonet actually made that statement to 'Porter' magazine, March 2018
ctsphang No she didn’t. Her publicist and manager came out and clarified that those comments were not real. Her daughter Zoe was the one who said that she was “disgusted and concerned” and also said her mother “had no prior knowledge and has no comments to make”. Lisa never came out and attacked Cosby if you actually read the article
@@Dinnerthedaythebanksareopen says you.
She was literally talking about how she didnt like fuck with him years ago if you watched the video
He was the reason why she got roles in Hollyweird.
Lisa Bonet's acting was lame, everyone else were far more believable/great actors/tresses.
Even if bonet came from a single parent home, you are an actress, you should be able to portray anything.
She only got by with that mediocre acting b/c she was pretty, light complected, with "good hair" just like Lauren London & Lisa Raye. 💯
@@lonelyenchantress2172 gurllllll both Lauren & Lisa are in a box. Lauren says her dimples are the reason her career hasn't elevated & no one needs to tell us that Lisa is too damn ghetto to be moved ffwd. Think Vivica A Foxx
Benben Ben Her acting on ADW was the worse! As soon as she left that show and they brought Debbie Allen on board as a producer ADW became a real black show!
Phylicia Rashad do not be rude!!!!!
Lies! Shes a really good actress. Watch her movies and scenes, I hope she does a Marvel movie or a comedy. L😍ve her and Zoe ✨👑💛
I always felt that Lisa Bonet wasn’t happy with the Cosby Show. The first season she seem to fit right in, by the second season you could see her mood change, as though she didn’t want to be there. I remember Phylicia Rashad saying in an interview that Lisa Bonet’s Mother who is White only come to the filming on the set maybe twice, while all the other kids parents like Malcolm Jamal’s Parent were very involved on the set, and in their kids career.
I felt like Lisa Bonet was going through a rebellion period, like most teens do.
Although Bill Cosby outside situation harmed his reputation, I still admirer his work. However I do think he was very strict, because according to Carl Payne who played Theo’s friend Cock Roach, he was fired for refusing to cut his hair. So it was obvious that Bill Cosby was very serious about how he wanted his show, the characters, it’s reputation to be, and Bonet did the opposite of that. I was disappointed when she was left out of the show, and wasn’t in the last episode. She still was one of my favorites because she did March to her own drummer.
Her mood changed bcus she was into drugs and those demons she had been battling. When you don t know WHO you are....you look to the wrong people. When she did 't listen and did that crazy movie all because she wanted to be accepted by the main stream. They used her and spit her out! Her career died right after it. She didn't wanna listen to Mr. Cosby or anyone else. She felt she knew better. Where was her mother? She needed someone to check her. The show she despised the most is how people still relate to her....... ungrateful behind.
So let me say this, #1 Denise Huxtable is the FAVORITE child. I don't understand why people are saying she wasn't a good fit, she definitely brought something to the show. In fact, she was so well liked by Cosby and the fans, he gave her her own show. #2 Lisa Bonet was a grown woman, she had the right to get married to the great Lenny Kravitz and give him a beautiful daughter. Bill had control issues, and the problem is once she married a rock star he could no longer control her. #3 the movie and the nude scene, maybe it wasn't the best move, if she signed a contract saying she wouldn't take nude roles I can understand the network having issues with it. That breaks a contractual agreement. #4 once she became pregnant with Zoe cosby was livid! Debbie begged bill for her to stay, and to write the pregnancy in the show. Because contrary to popular belief black women get pregnant every day in college and guess what? They have the baby finish college. I know teen moms with doctorate degrees, so I personally believe that Debbies storyline about Denise becoming pregnant would have been good for the culture because it's relatable. So forget about the perfect image, let's speak facts about the black community and the issues within. #5 let's fast forward to today. Looking at where they both are. Lisa is married to Aquaman, she's gracing the red carpet, she's booking roles again while cosby is in prison. And the fact that she couldn't book a gig until he fell from grace should show you all that he blackballed this woman. Which asked the question, if he loved her so much in the beginning, y end her career the way he did? What was really going on BTN them behind the scenes? Love you Lisa! Keep shining girl!
Very good documentary. I didn't know there was tension between the two. It shows now when I watch reruns. My only beef with the whole situation, and understand where Lisa is coming from; you cant do your own thing on a show you didn't create. The purpose of the show was to portray a black family in a positive lens. You cant deteriorate from that if you agree with the message.... it seems like Lisa's father leaving has something to do with the possibility of her not accepting a black man as a leader. Much respect for Cosby for what he did. Million of black children watched the show wishing they had a family like the one portrayed on tv. Thanks for sharing!
Respect for a convicted racist? Cosby good for black children? I'm in an alternate universe right now.
Nic Van Orton this is before the rape allegations, which I personally think is still up in the air because of the reports of him wanting to buy ABC.
I enjoyed watching Lisa Bonet act on the Cosby/DW...she not doing bad at all....was once married had a beautiful daughter from the sexiest man alive plus she is married to the finest gotdamn man in the world....hello....
@@lotusflower2517 😮😮and where can I find this?!
Alright, we get you thirsty.
@eclectic tyrone ohh wow 😕
Ugghhhh it just dawned on me recently..Bill Cosby played a Gynecologist!
👆🏻
I’ve never seen Lisa Bonet outside of the Cosby Show and Different World, and really never wanted too.
Fatal Ritte watch her in the red road
Did you see Bill in the remake of Shawshank redemption? I heard Bill's performance made it very realistic.
Fatal Ritte then U need to check her IMDb....For example; Biker Boyz, Enemy Of the State, High Fidelity...she stays working as she wants
I Loved A Different World!! One Of My Favorite Show's Back In The Day!
I admire this show because I liked it.How family look like about teenagers and little one.How to deal about different situations.We need more of it these days for example.God bless you All.
Every role she's played, it was the same character. Her only advantage was her pretty face. Now that she's older, she's not as pretty as before. So Hollywood has nothing to do with her!
My Inna' Peace Ministries I liked her in "High Fidelity."
Yep she's like the black version of Jennifer Aniston..😉
Vanessa was the better actress. She deserved a spin off. Blackish did the same thing giving a spinoff to the chic just because shes pretty.
Wrong
@@lonelyenchantress2172 Nah, Lisa Bonet was FINE AS FUCK, while Jennifer Aniston was NEVER fine. To even compare the two is an insult both Lisa and fine ass chicks. Courtney Cox was hotter than Jennifer. All Jennifer Aniston ever had was that corny ass hairstyle that every white girl copied back in the 90s.😂🤣😆
I don't know what he saw in her in the first place in terms of acting. In my opinion, she couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag. Yeah, she can come back years later and make some spoooky references about "A dark shadow." From the get-go I saw and recognized her as a loony toon and a disrespecter of authority/the status guo, as many kids were during those days. She fell right in place with she rest of them.
I liked Lisa playing Denise on the Cosby show. I felt like she was laid back and funny lol she had her own style they need to leave her alone
So let me get this straight this is the same guy who now is in jail, and he's judging a young woman?
Yes, hard to believe
There is a lot behind the charging and conviction of Bill Cosby. Check into his long going battles with the city regarding his land, the numerous times they have offered $, even threatened. For what .... mineral rights LOtS of them. He did not cave. Just look deep and see where you stand with his convictions.
@@I.can_feel_it.in.the_air wow! I heard some of this, Cosby was a smart man while the majority would sell out with out no thought.
@@I.can_feel_it.in.the_air That wouldn't surprise me at all, corrupt officials in america appear to be the norm these days. I doubt Cosby was entirely blameless but there's always parasites ready.
Graham agreed
I love her vibe and her daughter's vibe too. I think she took a stand and good for her.
FOH! She was a terrible actress and she was the worst portrayal of a Black girl ever seen