Both watches are superbly engineered ... and when compared to grossly overpriced Patek Philippe offerings (not that Patek is capable of producing anything along that line), they are as well a great value for money.
This is a clash of titans. As far as brand pedigree and movement creation, no watch brand gets my respect over JLC. All the other companies need help from them to make "the best watches in the world" (didn't you mention in a JLC review that Lange received help with their pano date function from the grand mason?). I also would've bet my paycheck that the Lange didn't have screwed lugs, I guess that's why I shouldn't bet. With all this said, the Lange's black polish and subdails are nothing less than intoxicating. But, JLC did a great job nonetheless with the pattern shining across the gaps in the movement. And, said movement is a beast. It's just a more interesting watch and the brand has integrity. Brands like Patek borrow lemania and JLC base movements and lose all credibility making pilot watches that don't match their heritage, but I digress. Dufour chose the datograph as his favorite, but the JLC has my humble vote. And you own one? Lucky man.
A great "battle"...Love JLC and Lange so it's difficult to choose one. I'd get the Duometre this time. Absolutely beautiful and elegant but at the same time seems futuristic. The movement is superb and the chronograph running is astonishing. Nice one !!
Denis França Hi Denis,I know what you mean about the challenge of choosing! When I'm working with two pieces of this caliber, it's easy to gush about the one in hand at that very moment, and selecting a favorite becomes a real challenge. That's why I try to present them with an even-handed perspective; only the channel surfers can decide which watch is "the one." Best, Tim
Very well reviewed, articulate, informative and appropriately fawning when necessary. The Lange has a style that somehow mirrors my souls aesthetics. They are just a bit thick, but then again, that thickness is additive to the overall sense of quality and craft.
+warriordrum Thank you! I try to stay sincere when showcasing these watches, and in this case, I tried not to sound too biased. I actually own #083 of the Duometre series featured in the video, so I hope I didn't come across as too much of a JLC partisan. The Lange deserves just as much credit. Best, Tim
Vali Sechi Hi Vali Sechi, Welcome to our channel, and thank you for your kind words! I always try to give as much background as possible, because the watches mean more to me (and, I'm sure, to UA-camrs) when the design philosophy, history, and key features receive full attention. We'll have more reviews posted tomorrow morning, so please check back often for more. Best, Tim
Outstanding review with your excellence in watch terminology and vocabulary. Tim, your reviews are amazingly detailed coupled with modern language and phrases, a major talent. I purchased through the Watchbox, The JLC Duometre Lunaire limited edition, my best watch by far, a true masterpiece. Thank you for your comments and recommendations while I was in the process of deciding to purchase the JLC.
Kolokolok7 Hi Kolokolok7, Thank you for all of your contributions to the channel! I'm always happy to see familiar names returning to the comment threads, and I'll work to keep the quality level high as we continue to grow on UA-cam. You've been a great contributor as we've worked to build this channel.Best, Tim
Ayztv Hi Ayztv, thanks for the shout-out! I try to show respect for the brands and their collectors by making an effort to get the names right. It always feels awkward to view professional reviews on the major watch channels and hear company (and complication) names almost deliberately mangled. I won't always get them right, but I always try to improve. Best, Tim
Just got the RG Dato Up/Down w deployant buckle after many considerations. Thanks for your insights. I will be on the look out for the original Dato. I didn't get why you loved JLC until I saw your video and watched duometre in action.... Its mesmerizing. This finishing reminds me of Lange as you have mentioned many times... I with JLC did this w a MOONPHASE w a steel case dark dial! I am not a big fan of the new moon (looks just wrinkled) but I wish they did the old hilarious looking moon faces from the vintage triple date moon phase watches... That would be awesome
Tim, you're the best. Love the passion and knowledge you exude. ALS is by far my favorite manufacture. However, JLC demands respect and props for its heritage and continuity of quality product. Cheers.
Excellent review and you are truly an expert on movements. I applaud the way you can fit so much detail into such a short video. I'm sorry to say that your German and French pronounciation still needs more work tho. Lange und Soehne, Geneve and Glashuette are all still poorly pronounced. I've heard a lot worse tho. I've lived over ten years in Geneva and my mother tongue is German (Swiss-German) It really isn't that hard to learn this, just get help from someone who actually speaks the language. I apologize if I'm coming across as a snob, as your knowledge on these movements is far greater than mine, you have my utmost respect for the passion you have for these watches. Bravo!
Perry Platinum Hi Perry, thanks for the kind words! I'm very glad that you've enjoyed my videos, and I'll do my best to keep the standard high - especially for exceptional timepieces like these. Yes, my pronunciation needs some work, especially when I'm racing to keep the video to a reasonable length. I learned French in New York 15 years ago, and I work to improve it while living in Miami, so I'm going to be at a disadvantage. That's not an excuse; my intention is to get it right and learn as I can, so please feel free to offer advice any time. Regarding movements, engineering, and watchmaking, I'm self-taught. But the learning continues on that front as well. Ultimately, I'd like to work my way to U.S. CW-21 certification in the watchmaking field. Best, Tim
***** Hi Cairo Sodersten, thank for visiting the WuW UA-cam channel! I agree with your take. The Lange is awesome in person, and the flyback function adds dynamism, but the Duometre in action is pure fireworks. As I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread, my love for the Duo is such that I took the plunge and added one (WG Chrono #083) to my small "family." Best, Tim
Hmmm... This is actually nice. Very good aesthetics; I am pleasantly surprised. I am usually accusing Swiss watch industry to be corrupt (ETA movements) and overrated (high caliber brands using ETA movements) and all, but these in this video are good. I mean, the Jeager LeCoultre one, very beautiful. As far as the German company, they would never go wrong, so my highest appreciations there. Still, I'd go for Grand Seiko, instead.
+Andrew Piatek Grand Seiko is excellent, and Seiko Credor is divine. I collect JLC (and own one of the 200 Duometres from this video), but I have tremendous respect for Lange and Seiko. Best, Tim
+watchuwantinc Thanks for the reply, and I know it's impolite to ask, but what price bracket is the Jaeger LeCoultre Duometer? I asked some other UA-cam reviewer, and he said $250,000-$320,000 or something like that for the blue dial Duometre, and I thought it was something along the lines of $10,000. So I was off a bit, unless it's not blue dial featured in this video, but a black dial with funky lighting. Not sure. Anyway, never mind. Maybe I shouldn't be asking about the price, it is rude indeed. But I couldn't help having the price discrepancy I am wandering about here.
Hi Andrew, that guy gave you bad information unless he's quoting non-US dollars or the price of uncommon tourbillon/sonnerie models of the Duometre. Any of the chronograph, UTT, or Lunaire models should be available between USD 47,000 and 65,000 new or 20,000 to 40,000 pre-owned. Best, Tim
skillzpro Hi skillzpro, welcome to our channel! We've sold the Datograph, but the full pricing, photos, and accessories of the Duometre can be seen on our listing for the watch: www.watchuwant.com/watches/jaeger-lecoultre-jlc-duometre-chronograph-jump-seconds-1/6-seconds-ref-q6013470-42mm-18k#.VYhTFlqRPFI Best, Tim
The Duometre looks hilariously awesome in action
quack man Oh it is... IT IS! The stuff dreams are made of...
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Tim
foudroyante watch
Both watches are superbly engineered ... and when compared to grossly overpriced Patek Philippe offerings (not that Patek is capable of producing anything along that line), they are as well a great value for money.
This is a clash of titans. As far as brand pedigree and movement creation, no watch brand gets my respect over JLC. All the other companies need help from them to make "the best watches in the world" (didn't you mention in a JLC review that Lange received help with their pano date function from the grand mason?). I also would've bet my paycheck that the Lange didn't have screwed lugs, I guess that's why I shouldn't bet. With all this said, the Lange's black polish and subdails are nothing less than intoxicating. But, JLC did a great job nonetheless with the pattern shining across the gaps in the movement. And, said movement is a beast. It's just a more interesting watch and the brand has integrity. Brands like Patek borrow lemania and JLC base movements and lose all credibility making pilot watches that don't match their heritage, but I digress. Dufour chose the datograph as his favorite, but the JLC has my humble vote. And you own one? Lucky man.
+pimpinken12 I agree. JLC is the most respected brand in my opinion.
Datograph everyday ! The history behind it, it's an icon.
Iconic indeed.
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A great "battle"...Love JLC and Lange so it's difficult to choose one. I'd get the Duometre this time. Absolutely beautiful and elegant but at the same time seems futuristic. The movement is superb and the chronograph running is astonishing. Nice one !!
Denis França Hi Denis,I know what you mean about the challenge of choosing! When I'm working with two pieces of this caliber, it's easy to gush about the one in hand at that very moment, and selecting a favorite becomes a real challenge. That's why I try to present them with an even-handed perspective; only the channel surfers can decide which watch is "the one."
Best,
Tim
Those 2 watches are insanely amazing! Great review.
Very well reviewed, articulate, informative and appropriately fawning when necessary. The Lange has a style that somehow mirrors my souls aesthetics. They are just a bit thick, but then again, that thickness is additive to the overall sense of quality and craft.
+warriordrum Thank you! I try to stay sincere when showcasing these watches, and in this case, I tried not to sound too biased. I actually own #083 of the Duometre series featured in the video, so I hope I didn't come across as too much of a JLC partisan. The Lange deserves just as much credit.
Best,
Tim
I love your reviews, always very well documented and informative! Good job!
Vali Sechi Hi Vali Sechi,
Welcome to our channel, and thank you for your kind words! I always try to give as much background as possible, because the watches mean more to me (and, I'm sure, to UA-camrs) when the design philosophy, history, and key features receive full attention. We'll have more reviews posted tomorrow morning, so please check back often for more.
Best,
Tim
Outstanding review with your excellence in watch terminology and vocabulary. Tim, your reviews are amazingly detailed coupled with modern language and phrases, a major talent. I purchased through the Watchbox, The JLC Duometre Lunaire limited edition, my best watch by far, a true masterpiece. Thank you for your comments and recommendations while I was in the process of deciding to purchase the JLC.
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No one can top JLC. Period
Keep up the great work! Your channel is becoming a favourite!
Kolokolok7 Hi Kolokolok7, Thank you for all of your contributions to the channel! I'm always happy to see familiar names returning to the comment threads, and I'll work to keep the quality level high as we continue to grow on UA-cam. You've been a great contributor as we've worked to build this channel.Best,
Tim
one of few vids on the internet pronouncing the brands correctly!
Ayztv Hi Ayztv, thanks for the shout-out!
I try to show respect for the brands and their collectors by making an effort to get the names right. It always feels awkward to view professional reviews on the major watch channels and hear company (and complication) names almost deliberately mangled. I won't always get them right, but I always try to improve.
Best,
Tim
Just got the RG Dato Up/Down w deployant buckle after many considerations. Thanks for your insights. I will be on the look out for the original Dato. I didn't get why you loved JLC until I saw your video and watched duometre in action.... Its mesmerizing. This finishing reminds me of Lange as you have mentioned many times... I with JLC did this w a MOONPHASE w a steel case dark dial! I am not a big fan of the new moon (looks just wrinkled) but I wish they did the old hilarious looking moon faces from the vintage triple date moon phase watches...
That would be awesome
I forgot to add w lume.....
Not only is the JLC more complicated , but it's not (never) the thickest ! they are the absolute masters of thickness !
Tim, you're the best. Love the passion and knowledge you exude. ALS is by far my favorite manufacture. However, JLC demands respect and props for its heritage and continuity of quality product. Cheers.
I see duometre used prices bottomed out time for me to search!
How can anybody buy Patek????
Nice pronunciation of "Glashütte" ;)
Rashad Thanks, Rashad! At the suggestion of our viewers, I'm, working hard to improve my German ;-)
Best,
Tim
Excellent review and you are truly an expert on movements. I applaud the way you can fit so much detail into such a short video. I'm sorry to say that your German and French pronounciation still needs more work tho. Lange und Soehne, Geneve and Glashuette are all still poorly pronounced. I've heard a lot worse tho. I've lived over ten years in Geneva and my mother tongue is German (Swiss-German) It really isn't that hard to learn this, just get help from someone who actually speaks the language. I apologize if I'm coming across as a snob, as your knowledge on these movements is far greater than mine, you have my utmost respect for the passion you have for these watches. Bravo!
Perry Platinum Hi Perry, thanks for the kind words! I'm very glad that you've enjoyed my videos, and I'll do my best to keep the standard high - especially for exceptional timepieces like these.
Yes, my pronunciation needs some work, especially when I'm racing to keep the video to a reasonable length. I learned French in New York 15 years ago, and I work to improve it while living in Miami, so I'm going to be at a disadvantage. That's not an excuse; my intention is to get it right and learn as I can, so please feel free to offer advice any time.
Regarding movements, engineering, and watchmaking, I'm self-taught. But the learning continues on that front as well. Ultimately, I'd like to work my way to U.S. CW-21 certification in the watchmaking field.
Best,
Tim
while the lange is beautiful id get the duometre its just something about the fudroyante and the way it moves
***** Hi Cairo Sodersten, thank for visiting the WuW UA-cam channel! I agree with your take. The Lange is awesome in person, and the flyback function adds dynamism, but the Duometre in action is pure fireworks. As I mentioned in an earlier post on this thread, my love for the Duo is such that I took the plunge and added one (WG Chrono #083) to my small "family."
Best,
Tim
Hmmm... This is actually nice. Very good aesthetics; I am pleasantly surprised. I am usually accusing Swiss watch industry to be corrupt (ETA movements) and overrated (high caliber brands using ETA movements) and all, but these in this video are good. I mean, the Jeager LeCoultre one, very beautiful. As far as the German company, they would never go wrong, so my highest appreciations there. Still, I'd go for Grand Seiko, instead.
+Andrew Piatek Grand Seiko is excellent, and Seiko Credor is divine. I collect JLC (and own one of the 200 Duometres from this video), but I have tremendous respect for Lange and Seiko.
Best,
Tim
+watchuwantinc Thanks for the reply, and I know it's impolite to ask, but what price bracket is the Jaeger LeCoultre Duometer? I asked some other UA-cam reviewer, and he said $250,000-$320,000 or something like that for the blue dial Duometre, and I thought it was something along the lines of $10,000. So I was off a bit, unless it's not blue dial featured in this video, but a black dial with funky lighting. Not sure. Anyway, never mind. Maybe I shouldn't be asking about the price, it is rude indeed. But I couldn't help having the price discrepancy I am wandering about here.
Hi Andrew, that guy gave you bad information unless he's quoting non-US dollars or the price of uncommon tourbillon/sonnerie models of the Duometre. Any of the chronograph, UTT, or Lunaire models should be available between USD 47,000 and 65,000 new or 20,000 to 40,000 pre-owned.
Best,
Tim
Isn't that your Jlc Tim ??
I love this frigging channel!
+Makpak Beans That makes two of us ;-) I'm honored that so many folks have become subscribers and regular visitors.
Best,
Tim
a Lange amazing.
What type of lugs?
How much does each cost?
skillzpro Hi skillzpro, welcome to our channel! We've sold the Datograph, but the full pricing, photos, and accessories of the Duometre can be seen on our listing for the watch: www.watchuwant.com/watches/jaeger-lecoultre-jlc-duometre-chronograph-jump-seconds-1/6-seconds-ref-q6013470-42mm-18k#.VYhTFlqRPFI
Best,
Tim
The JLC is sexier from the front.
I used to watch Storage Wars now I’m watching these...
I think the JLC wins.
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