Her side armor will get you killed if you show broadside to battleships. I almost got deleted in one salvo by a Kansas I didn’t see before I started turning. Her nose is lightweight, only 25mm, and will eat pens through the nose against 406mm guns. She isn’t built for tanking damage, but she’s so fun to play with her accuracy and concealment. I’ve deleted dozens of cruisers with only one salvo, she’s fairly maneuverable, and the aa is pretty good. She’s a very fun ship to play if played correctly and she will reward you for good play. My best game ever is in the Florida and she got me my first kraken. I do not regret buying her
@@roydelpozo4816 No wai. Sinop may win if you go nose-to-nose, but Nelson is much more versatile. Sinop has a lower skill floor, but Nelson a higher skill ceiling.
@@rexstuff4655 i dont disagree at all... that super heal makes it live through hell. But instead of healing the sinop just tanks damage without taking damage. its armor profile for t7 is ridiculous. the only thing it does not have is a 32mm nose. Otherwise its armored like an 8 with crazy deck and side armor. the Nelson can get overwhelmed quickly while the sinop can take it while pushing . The nelson needs time between fights to back out and heal. But British 406 HE is the devil so i do believe in its usefulness. Such a nasty fire chance.
This game is totally broken. I've gotten devstrikes awarded for kills across multiple salvoes, while not getting them off single spreads of torps. Like everything in WoWS, it's absolutely broke.
Now that people are finally getting the strasbourg from the campaign I'm seeing more of them in games, and seeing people try and play them as mini Jean Barts. They try and bowtank while I in an actual JB just pump AP through her 25mm nose. It's sad in a funny way.
It's a damn shame that the secondarys only go out to 7.6 km. I tested my Florida in the Training Room with a full secondary build - we're talking Mass/Georgia/Ohio levels of secondary accuracy - I was averaging 48% over several tests against a moving target. And the odd thing is, for some reason, the four single barrel 5 inch mounts on the Florida have HALF the dispersion of even the Mass - 71 meters at 7.6 km - compared to roughly 121 meters for the twin 5 inch mounts on the Mass (according to Fitting Tool), or 141 meters at 7.6 km for the twin 5 inchers on the Florida. I'm not aware of any other ship in the game that has this difference in dispersion between single and double mounts of the same caliber - from what I've seen, it's usually just one dispersion value for the entire secondary battery.
Amagi, nagato, warspite, and basically all the ships with 140-150mm casemate mounts have two different dispersion curves for their secondaries. As most of the casemate guns use massa secondary dispersion
SinkkingTurrtle the warspite not only crushes it tier but another ship that does not care about being uptiered. Great secondaries that shoot forward and great guns ! Just never knew FL secondaries were capable . Then again I do like the Fl laser main guns . But accept no substitute... the NC is still a beast !
This ship with dead eye was glorious, even versus T9s. Her health pool and wonky armor though is an issue especially after you get spotted. Still my favorite T7.
Thanks for reminding me to play this ship a lot more. I loved it when I first got her. No idea why I stopped playing it. I had the pleasure though of facing one in my Musashi. Poor soul showed me broadside and I nuked him for a 50k salvo.. felt kinda bad for the guy. Hopefully he learned a lesson on overpen
I do like the Dunkerque but I have no illusions about her general combat effectiveness. I rarely take her into Random Battles but will run her through Scenarios on occasion and the last time they did a T6 ranked season I had a lot of fun with her. She definitely feels like the kind of ship that would benefit from a +1/-1 preferred matchmaking as she really struggles with T8 ships. Would it be fair to say that the Florida is like a T7 US interpretation of an Alsace?
As always PQ, great stuff. :D As a BB main myself, I much prefer your opinion over the likes of Flamu, if only because I feel you give a more specific point of view from the perspective of a BB player yourself. Hopefully I won't be an average player much longer, just finding it particularly hard to stay interested what with the neutering of the German BB line coming up with the commander rework. So much effort feels... wasted.
I dunno I was playing ranked in a Sinop. I hit a Florida with about 85% health with 3 AP shells and detonated it. The Florida was not full broadside on. I saved the replay, too.
I think JB would be good even without the reload booster, just because it's a Richelieu, but with actual accurate guns, better concealment, better AA, and blessed T9 MM + T9 modules. Like you said on Florida's virtues, it's all about consistent gunnery. Playing my Richelieu, it just hurts to see a salvo, aimed as well as can be done, scatter above, in front of, behind, and below a target showing a crisp broadside, with a token overpen to spit in your face. Hop into my Jean Bart, I can expect that at least half of those shells are going to land into the broadside, and the French 15's do wonderful work, when they hit the broadside. JB can pop superstructures in mid-range fights, meaning I never fear Georgia or Friedrich/Pommern. Soyuz is a pain, but unless you're a RN BB flinging HE, they're a pain for everyone. JB, with the really comfortable reload + the reload module at T9, is what Richelieu would be if she were fun. Plus, her AA is wonderful; you devour T8 squadrons without even building for it, and you can at least offend non-FDR T10 squadrons. The only thing I genuinely fear in my JB is Yamusashis, given the 32mm skin everywhere on JB for them to overmatch. But, the exact same issue exists for Richelieu, and its token benefit is being maybe a knot or so faster. All this is a very long way of saying Strasbourg is an insult to the memory of the Jean Bart. It could have been good, but its guns are still the same dreadful shotguns of the Dunkerque, its AA is nonexistent, it has no secondaries to speak of, and no speed/concealment to avoid/evade. It's everything not good about the Dunkerque, with nothing good of the Jean Bart but a reload booster, which I reckon to be a nice addition, but not something to rest a ship on. All the other, constant benefits JB has I value much more highly than the booster.
Hey PQ i just want say thank you to BFK i was wachting your dpm-52 video and copying the playstyle it really fun playing like that in kleber in the past i dont really using gun xD Not wondering why my PR sucks at DD gunboat
Is just like KGV with different consumables. I don’t play it as a BB I play it like a tanky cruiser like Hindenburg or zao. Long range HE spam and when the opportunity shows up AP can be deadly.
You should try the Hood sometime if you have it. It's probably the tankiest T7 BB against pretty much any damage source. It is also fast as hell which let's you kite and reposition really quickly (and it makes pushing in very easy). The only real issues I've run into is the lack of reach (only 18.3km range with no spotter) and bad penetration. It probably isn't the best damage dealer but it is definitely a really fun ship to play because you never feel like you are in a position where you just get melted by incoming fire.
@ANUBHAV SHARMA The Hood has more armor than all of those ships. It's belt armor/citadel protection is a bit worse than the Germans but it way better than the Sinop. As for extremity plating, the Hood beats out both of them due to the sheer number of 51mm+ plating that renders it largely immune to AP overmatch apart from the occasional she'll that hits your small areas of 25mm armor. Not only is it the most armoured, but it also has the most base HP out of all T7 BBs AND it has the second strongest heal in terms of HP healed.
I wonder if 10,000 more players will get this ship after this video... My best commander only has 10 skill points [don't have thousands of games under my belt]. Where would be the best place to put the first 10 captain skill points?
My main issue with Florida is that they made her shells lighter than NM/California and both shells being weaker than NM/California. She was designed to have the 16”/50 Mk B, the most powerful 14” the USN ever designed. Why so much weaker.
Nah man she has 3000 Krupp value the best in the game she has over 450mm of pen at 18km the New Mexico has 387mm at 18km and her Krupp is much lower and Krupp is how strong your shells are against shattering higher better like Oklahoma has 1837 Krupp value horrible
GuyOnUA-cam depends on the ship . I never care when t10 in kutozov, Massachusetts, or Bismarck . Other ships feel like they get ball crushed on the uptier so I do feel your pain .
Yeah, what ever people say about USN 16 inch guns in this game being powerful is a fking LIE. The 14 inch US guns are WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY fking better. The 14s are more accurate, and dont over pen the fk out of everything, so they do INSANE damage. Having 12 vs 8 or 9 guns helps I suppose, but yeah, I like my 14s way more than the 16s. If I could mod this game, id buff the California's secondaries to that of the WV44 and play Cali.....overmatch is a lie......I ricocheted off an Omaha with my WV44.....how do I ricochet off a ship I should overmatch? And Operations, to bad they are kinda ruined because the AI get ALOT of high DPM BS HE spam ships.......the very reason I was playing T7 to begin with, in hopes of not dealing with that BS so much.
Now if only they would fix T7 MM so you aren’t facing T9s 90% of the time. Glad you’re still enjoying the ship!
They wont. They dont care at all.
But how else will WG get people to buy T9 Premiums?
@@KardasheviteUltravisionarythen you get uptiered to tier 10 and super ships! Yay
All the people who had Florida said she was weak. After watching this movie, I know I will probably buy this ship. Thanks for the advice
Her side armor will get you killed if you show broadside to battleships. I almost got deleted in one salvo by a Kansas I didn’t see before I started turning. Her nose is lightweight, only 25mm, and will eat pens through the nose against 406mm guns. She isn’t built for tanking damage, but she’s so fun to play with her accuracy and concealment. I’ve deleted dozens of cruisers with only one salvo, she’s fairly maneuverable, and the aa is pretty good. She’s a very fun ship to play if played correctly and she will reward you for good play. My best game ever is in the Florida and she got me my first kraken. I do not regret buying her
@@danielsherrill7085 yea, but a kansas is just another level of shell weight
@@firepos3851 that is very true
When it comes to T7 BBs, you can take my Nelson from my cold, dead hands...
I loved nelson like i loved GNE. They are just food to a freaking Russian armored Sinop. The Sinop destroyed t7.
@@roydelpozo4816 No wai. Sinop may win if you go nose-to-nose, but Nelson is much more versatile. Sinop has a lower skill floor, but Nelson a higher skill ceiling.
@@rexstuff4655 i dont disagree at all... that super heal makes it live through hell. But instead of healing the sinop just tanks damage without taking damage. its armor profile for t7 is ridiculous. the only thing it does not have is a 32mm nose. Otherwise its armored like an 8 with crazy deck and side armor. the Nelson can get overwhelmed quickly while the sinop can take it while pushing . The nelson needs time between fights to back out and heal. But British 406 HE is the devil so i do believe in its usefulness. Such a nasty fire chance.
@@roydelpozo4816 just load he mate..
@@rexstuff4655 pfftttt no. All it takes is a a few shell going into that huge nose and that’s citadel
Useful video, as usual. Does it need update in 2024 (captain build)?
Potato: talking about all of the reasons he loves the Florida
Me: WOAH 4-GUN TURRETS
Picked up Florida yesterday and had a real good first game.
It was this video that convinced to purchase the Florida! Definitely accurate and fun! Keep your positioning and avoid torpedoes!
She's got really good angles for kiting and she's fun when you insta-pop light cruisers.
I've been uptiered to t10 when in a division in my florida, even t10 carriers fed planes to the florida giving me an AA expert.
Don't ever do multitier in a division. It bases off highest tier in your group
I'd take PT JOAT instead of BFT.
Also how on earth that yorck kill wasn't a devstrike?
This game is totally broken. I've gotten devstrikes awarded for kills across multiple salvoes, while not getting them off single spreads of torps. Like everything in WoWS, it's absolutely broke.
Yea had the same question - lmao WoWs being broken as ever.
If you had halsey you would have got the reload boost after that confed... could have had an even better game.
I'm pretty sure his Halsey is specced for secondaries
Now that people are finally getting the strasbourg from the campaign I'm seeing more of them in games, and seeing people try and play them as mini Jean Barts. They try and bowtank while I in an actual JB just pump AP through her 25mm nose. It's sad in a funny way.
It's a damn shame that the secondarys only go out to 7.6 km. I tested my Florida in the Training Room with a full secondary build - we're talking Mass/Georgia/Ohio levels of secondary accuracy - I was averaging 48% over several tests against a moving target.
And the odd thing is, for some reason, the four single barrel 5 inch mounts on the Florida have HALF the dispersion of even the Mass - 71 meters at 7.6 km - compared to roughly 121 meters for the twin 5 inch mounts on the Mass (according to Fitting Tool), or 141 meters at 7.6 km for the twin 5 inchers on the Florida. I'm not aware of any other ship in the game that has this difference in dispersion between single and double mounts of the same caliber - from what I've seen, it's usually just one dispersion value for the entire secondary battery.
Interesting ... ill have to try this.
Amagi, nagato, warspite, and basically all the ships with 140-150mm casemate mounts have two different dispersion curves for their secondaries. As most of the casemate guns use massa secondary dispersion
SinkkingTurrtle the warspite not only crushes it tier but another ship that does not care about being uptiered. Great secondaries that shoot forward and great guns ! Just never knew FL secondaries were capable . Then again I do like the Fl laser main guns . But accept no substitute... the NC is still a beast !
I totally thought you were gonna shoot that strasborg at @:25 XD
This ship with dead eye was glorious, even versus T9s. Her health pool and wonky armor though is an issue especially after you get spotted. Still my favorite T7.
Thanks for reminding me to play this ship a lot more. I loved it when I first got her. No idea why I stopped playing it. I had the pleasure though of facing one in my Musashi. Poor soul showed me broadside and I nuked him for a 50k salvo.. felt kinda bad for the guy. Hopefully he learned a lesson on overpen
I'm late to the party, but I just got this out of a Santa crate. Still good ship today?
I do like the Dunkerque but I have no illusions about her general combat effectiveness. I rarely take her into Random Battles but will run her through Scenarios on occasion and the last time they did a T6 ranked season I had a lot of fun with her. She definitely feels like the kind of ship that would benefit from a +1/-1 preferred matchmaking as she really struggles with T8 ships.
Would it be fair to say that the Florida is like a T7 US interpretation of an Alsace?
Can you make a video about the Nelson? It is in my opinion a very balanced ship and one of my favorits 🙂
hello，how good the dead eyes works on this ship？
As always PQ, great stuff. :D As a BB main myself, I much prefer your opinion over the likes of Flamu, if only because I feel you give a more specific point of view from the perspective of a BB player yourself. Hopefully I won't be an average player much longer, just finding it particularly hard to stay interested what with the neutering of the German BB line coming up with the commander rework. So much effort feels... wasted.
Is scharnhorst still worth it in 2021?
I dunno I was playing ranked in a Sinop. I hit a Florida with about 85% health with 3 AP shells and detonated it. The Florida was not full broadside on. I saved the replay, too.
I think JB would be good even without the reload booster, just because it's a Richelieu, but with actual accurate guns, better concealment, better AA, and blessed T9 MM + T9 modules. Like you said on Florida's virtues, it's all about consistent gunnery. Playing my Richelieu, it just hurts to see a salvo, aimed as well as can be done, scatter above, in front of, behind, and below a target showing a crisp broadside, with a token overpen to spit in your face. Hop into my Jean Bart, I can expect that at least half of those shells are going to land into the broadside, and the French 15's do wonderful work, when they hit the broadside. JB can pop superstructures in mid-range fights, meaning I never fear Georgia or Friedrich/Pommern. Soyuz is a pain, but unless you're a RN BB flinging HE, they're a pain for everyone. JB, with the really comfortable reload + the reload module at T9, is what Richelieu would be if she were fun. Plus, her AA is wonderful; you devour T8 squadrons without even building for it, and you can at least offend non-FDR T10 squadrons. The only thing I genuinely fear in my JB is Yamusashis, given the 32mm skin everywhere on JB for them to overmatch. But, the exact same issue exists for Richelieu, and its token benefit is being maybe a knot or so faster.
All this is a very long way of saying Strasbourg is an insult to the memory of the Jean Bart. It could have been good, but its guns are still the same dreadful shotguns of the Dunkerque, its AA is nonexistent, it has no secondaries to speak of, and no speed/concealment to avoid/evade. It's everything not good about the Dunkerque, with nothing good of the Jean Bart but a reload booster, which I reckon to be a nice addition, but not something to rest a ship on. All the other, constant benefits JB has I value much more highly than the booster.
Hey PQ i just want say thank you to BFK i was wachting your dpm-52 video and copying the playstyle it really fun playing like that in kleber in the past i dont really using gun xD
Not wondering why my PR sucks at DD gunboat
Hey PQ could you do a Duke of York review I love it and I would like to see your opinions on it.
Crap BB.
@@dudeonyoutube Yes. AP is okay but I have seen that thing get dev striked from the nose by Sinop, Nagato and similar high calibre BBs.
Is just like KGV with different consumables. I don’t play it as a BB I play it like a tanky cruiser like Hindenburg or zao. Long range HE spam and when the opportunity shows up AP can be deadly.
Have Florida on console it's a tier six. Cruiser hate this ship too. But it's my favorite ship this year and going forward too.
30k one-salvo dev strike sinking followed by nearly exact same location hits/spread on another ship 6.5k.
You should try the Hood sometime if you have it. It's probably the tankiest T7 BB against pretty much any damage source. It is also fast as hell which let's you kite and reposition really quickly (and it makes pushing in very easy). The only real issues I've run into is the lack of reach (only 18.3km range with no spotter) and bad penetration.
It probably isn't the best damage dealer but it is definitely a really fun ship to play because you never feel like you are in a position where you just get melted by incoming fire.
@ANUBHAV SHARMA The Hood has more armor than all of those ships. It's belt armor/citadel protection is a bit worse than the Germans but it way better than the Sinop. As for extremity plating, the Hood beats out both of them due to the sheer number of 51mm+ plating that renders it largely immune to AP overmatch apart from the occasional she'll that hits your small areas of 25mm armor. Not only is it the most armoured, but it also has the most base HP out of all T7 BBs AND it has the second strongest heal in terms of HP healed.
I wonder if 10,000 more players will get this ship after this video... My best commander only has 10 skill points [don't have thousands of games under my belt]. Where would be the best place to put the first 10 captain skill points?
I got called a cheater for a first salvo not unlike your first. But hey a compliment is a compliment.
Florida seems suspiciously french
It has torpedo bombers and dive bombers
Potato did you see the vid jingles did on your clan mate and his 2nd highest damage on na server
How about the Hood?
@Potato Quality is this still valid nowdays?
I would say so. There haven’t been any major changes to the ship and with the right commander skills it is a very potent TVII BB.
My main issue with Florida is that they made her shells lighter than NM/California and both shells being weaker than NM/California. She was designed to have the 16”/50 Mk B, the most powerful 14” the USN ever designed. Why so much weaker.
Nah man she has 3000 Krupp value the best in the game she has over 450mm of pen at 18km the New Mexico has 387mm at 18km and her Krupp is much lower and Krupp is how strong your shells are against shattering higher better like Oklahoma has 1837 Krupp value horrible
I get punished by nose citadel for try to tank with this ship. But this the ship is so enjoyable to play with.
Went back here to comment RHOAD ISLAND TIER X (Super Florida)
Reduce range of all guns in the game by 30% from all tiers to force people to get closer!
That wouldn't work out well
Someone who uses navigator! that is just the best mod! lets you not have to guess the angle!
Duke of York :P
My favorite ships in world of warships is uss midway
I get railed by a sinop or a NC everytime I play this ship
A fun T7 CL is the Munchen!
No thank you! pay more for either of the t8 german cruisers.
@@roydelpozo4816 No thanks. T7 is much more fun to play than perennially bottom-tiered T8.
GuyOnUA-cam depends on the ship . I never care when t10 in kutozov, Massachusetts, or Bismarck . Other ships feel like they get ball crushed on the uptier so I do feel your pain .
Uhhm, Potato, just something you might want to know, but in a fight against T5, every T7 will look pretty stellar. Isn't really helping your case
I've been playing this ship wrong :(
You spelled scharnhorst wrong
Yeah, what ever people say about USN 16 inch guns in this game being powerful is a fking LIE. The 14 inch US guns are WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY fking better. The 14s are more accurate, and dont over pen the fk out of everything, so they do INSANE damage. Having 12 vs 8 or 9 guns helps I suppose, but yeah, I like my 14s way more than the 16s. If I could mod this game, id buff the California's secondaries to that of the WV44 and play Cali.....overmatch is a lie......I ricocheted off an Omaha with my WV44.....how do I ricochet off a ship I should overmatch?
And Operations, to bad they are kinda ruined because the AI get ALOT of high DPM BS HE spam ships.......the very reason I was playing T7 to begin with, in hopes of not dealing with that BS so much.
SIGMA only 1.70
Nelson is better and can overmatch and has op HE shells with super heal and all guns are facing forward so u can dance with torps
its super fun... but... the sinop still eats it up.:( russian bias and all
i feel hyuga is better for me
Liar. Secondary Oklahoma, the PQ Special lol
Ashitaka is better
By stats, florida shouldn’t be an accurate ship