Are Dream Characters Conscious? | Mysteries of the Psyche

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  • Are dream characters conscious? Do they have a point of view and knowledge base of their own? In this video we will discuss a fascinating classic study by dream researcher Paul Tholey and the interesting results from it.
    The study:
    Tholey, Paul. 1989. Consciousness and abilities of dream characters observed during lucid dreaming. Perceptual and Motor Skills 68: 567-578.

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  • @thegypsywitchchannel880
    @thegypsywitchchannel880 11 місяців тому +51

    I asked my characters the time and date and they got really upset. I asked why they said because they are in a different time zone it’s not the same as us. I asked if they where real and they said yes. They are just in a different dimension and said when we sleep we go there. It was a pretty cool and crazy dream.

    • @Shadowinthehall
      @Shadowinthehall 6 місяців тому +3

      Dang they got defensive!?

    • @inscription8099
      @inscription8099 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@user-nl3oi5wr1n this is super common if you ask this question. People actually report horrifying demonic level reactions or simply getting put in a dream prison or interrogation room against there will where they must agree to never ask that.

    • @IyahHayi
      @IyahHayi 3 місяці тому +1

      If you read Alice In wonderland, there’s a weird fixation around time. There’s no time there and I think that’s what triggers them. I think they also get angry bc asking date and time figures them out.

    • @bigmzi
      @bigmzi 8 днів тому +1

      I know I have tried looking for the date on newspapers I would come upon in dreams but it just gets weird and tough and then zip you're up.

  • @Degjoy
    @Degjoy 2 місяці тому +16

    I have heard two sentences spoken very clearly to me at different times just before waking:
    1. “You can’t drive the physical mind, but you can drive the consciousness.”
    2. “You can change the world, but you already fully have.”
    It took me a good while to understand these sentences.
    I find them both fascinating. It’s astonishing to me that I heard them so clearly ‘word for word’ yet I didn’t understand them initially.

    • @buseagca7142
      @buseagca7142 26 днів тому

      what do you mean ı dont understand :(

  • @Obese_Pterodactyl
    @Obese_Pterodactyl 3 роки тому +47

    I had about 20 short lucid dreams back to back. In them I had three reoccurring dream characters (one of them a nightmarish hag) that followed me from dream to dream. One of them, by the last dream, was blown away that I remembered his name he told me a couple dreams beforehand. His name was Gileon (which I looked up and is a real name, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard in my life.). I asked him what this place was (the dream). He told me 'She' thinks I already know. I asked who 'she' was, turns out it's his wife, Rozita. I don't remember much more of the conversation except that he told me that his first memory was me at the age of 10.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +5

      That is truly impressive! Thanks for sharing, love to hear more.

    • @bodobodo7211
      @bodobodo7211 2 роки тому +2

      That is insane!!!!!!!!!
      As a beginner i'm still trying to lucid dream and also as an adventurer i am really looking forward for those insane lucid dreams:)

    • @iwasneverhere9189
      @iwasneverhere9189 Рік тому

      20 back to back, I have 4-5 a night, every night

    • @Julez-
      @Julez- 6 днів тому

      Did these dream characters look like anyone you know in waking life or are they unique?

  • @tobiashagstrom8309
    @tobiashagstrom8309 Рік тому +23

    I had a few lucid dreams where I ask the people I am with if they know that they aren’t real/ is in a dream, unfortunately they either avoid the question or just doesn’t say anything and just stares at me in a creepy looking way, but a few months ago I had this dream where everything felt so real that I thought I was in some sort of alternative reality, the people I talked to in that dream where very much open to the idea when I was showing prof and convincing them that I was not from their world, what amazes me even more is that they where showing me some of their stuff that we don’t have here in reality, when I woke up I was so convinced that where in a alternative universe that I couldn’t stop thinking about it for a week. Lucid dreaming is truly amazing and such a mystery! And thank you for making this video btw!

    • @baluga1988
      @baluga1988 11 місяців тому +3

      I also believe my lucid dreams is an alternate reality. There’s no way I can come up with the stuff I dream about on my own

    • @kole-sama19
      @kole-sama19 18 днів тому

      You're the first person I've seen other than myself that gets the creepy stares when I tell them I know I'm dreaming. It is God damn horrifying lol

    • @julianaquintero8099
      @julianaquintero8099 14 днів тому

      I have had very similar experiences where I show them proof that I am in a dream and ask them what the date is etc. Some look at me weirdly. Some have had interesting conversations with me and they have been shocked that I am supposedly from another world and I am just in a dream. When I wake up, I can't remember what they said. It seems so real. I think I have been in another world.

  • @theself5738
    @theself5738 3 роки тому +62

    That's why it's called your subconscious- the dream characters are projections of the subconscious, so you are not consciously aware of all the things they seem to know, but the mind is so expansive that it has projected the entire dreamworld, including all those characters and you are only consciously aware of a tiny sliver, not even 1% at first. As you become more lucid, you are aware of more and more of your mind, which is why you can start to control of influence parts of your dream. Just because dream characters seem to know things you are not consciously aware of, doesn't mean they are "aware" or conscious of the dream the way you are. The only one who is aware and seeing the dream is the dreamer (the "I" - observer behind the dream character you seem to be playing)

    • @erikgoodwyn9133
      @erikgoodwyn9133 3 роки тому +1

      Spot on, Bubba!

    • @sharondipitous613
      @sharondipitous613 3 роки тому +6

      Yes! Perfectly explained. It’s all YOU (the dreamer)….all characters are facets of your subconscious mind.

    • @andylane3739
      @andylane3739 2 роки тому +6

      I've had those characters push me back up a stairway in a dream. In the dream I was trying to get to the "bottom of things".

    • @perssontm1628
      @perssontm1628 2 роки тому +2

      @@andylane3739 Maybe your subconscious was trying to tell you that you're not ready to explore that side of yourself.

    • @andylane3739
      @andylane3739 2 роки тому +4

      @@perssontm1628 - I think that dream was my subconscious punishing my ego for attempting to destroy the universe and then my ego trying to create a new one.

  • @ashleyneidlow4649
    @ashleyneidlow4649 3 роки тому +85

    It's really cool to think about the fact that the characters in our dreams could have their own thoughts so to speak. Because it's like.. I'm dreaming this dream, right? How are you in my head with your own thoughts and actions!?!? Crazy stuff. Love it. Looking forward to more!

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +8

      Yeah, the very strangeness of it is probably why this is one of my most viewed videos (not that it's saying anything lol)

    • @ashleyneidlow4649
      @ashleyneidlow4649 3 роки тому +1

      @@theimaginarium it's my favorite, so far. I can't help thinking 'how can MY dream characters in MY head avoid me like that?' How rude! 😂

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +2

      @@ashleyneidlow4649 so rude!

    • @sunnyblue1244
      @sunnyblue1244 3 роки тому +7

      After learning about dissociate identity disorder, nothing surprises me about the ability of our brains.
      There's just so much we don't know that's packed away in our minds. And we only understand the basics or what seems tangible.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +4

      @@sunnyblue1244 That is very true. DID is a fascinating disorder.

  • @taxiuniversum
    @taxiuniversum 2 роки тому +44

    It is fair to say that in this field, we as a society are overall just scratching the surface of the phenomenon we try to understand.
    I used to spend quite a bit of time with dreams when I was around 20. The key element appears to be to do a dream diary. I learned a lot of things back then.
    For instance: When you wake up, it is essential to be very disciplined at not moving your body the least bit at first. When you wake up, you still have your maximum access to your dream memory. But once you move your physical body, that memory is getting lost within seconds.
    So what you do is: You wake up, stay still - and recall as much of your dreams as you can, or want.
    This act of „recalling“ the dream can be equated to copying a file from a usb-stick to a hard-drive.
    Once you have recalled those dreams, you are free to move your body, and the memory of the dreams are „secured“ and will stay with you.
    Then write them down in your dream diary.
    Anyways - through putting more of a mental focus on these things, I guess I became more aware in this area of my existence. So one thing that started to happen was that I was - while still in the dream - becoming aware that I was about to wake up.
    In one extreme experience, I noticed I was about to wake up - but unlike in „normal“ dreams, I found myself in the physical world, in the house I lived in, in between the neighboring room and mine. I was - as „energy“, I suppose, passing through a wall, and approaching my physical body that was laying in bed. While that was happening, I had total spacial awareness, i.e. I „saw“ everything around me, unlike like looking through eyes.
    I felt drawn to my body by a magnetic force. While I was returning to my body, I felt various interesting sensations, as if my body had it‘s own, layered energy field that was affecting me. I found that extremely interesting and wanted to further investigate, so I tried to slow down my return into my body.
    But the pulling force was too strong - and exactly like with magnets, it rose exponentially, the closer I got - until I was suddenly in - BAM!
    So what I see is that while I was sleeping, I (as in my soul) had left my physical body, and gone somewhere else. Where had I gone? I don’t know. What had happened there? I don’t know.
    Traditionally, we think of our dreams as products of our own imagination. I would like to challenge that concept.
    SOME dreams clearly are just that - but others may not.
    There is a man by the name of Jürgen Ziewe, who has investigated what he calls the astral dimensions for decades. He’s a very humble person and does not make much fuzz about himself. He can provide a TON of fascinating insights.
    SOME of our „dreams“ may, in fact be experiences and journeys in these astral dimensions. And there, we may indeed encounter entities that exist OUTSIDE of our own identity. They would, of course then also have an awareness of their own.
    Later in life, I spent time doing training in clairvoyance. I am by now 100% convinced that souls continue to exist after what we call death.
    While sleeping, I have encountered on at least three occasions people I knew and who had passed. I find it very well possible that it was their souls whom I met.
    If souls exist, and if their existence is not tied to their connection to a physical body, a physical brain, then this opens up a whole new perspective that ought to be considered.
    In any case, to you curious people out there: I wish you fun and amazing insights in your OWN experiences „out there“! 🙂👍🏼
    Cheers.

    • @gabriellahue6084
      @gabriellahue6084 9 місяців тому +1

      That’s very interesting how you like we’re being pulled in to your body by some force would love to here more!

  • @Atayrose
    @Atayrose 3 місяці тому +6

    I just woke up from a lucid dream then this was the first video on my feed😂. When I realised I was dreaming i stopped stressing about the thing I was stressing about, turned to the person I was ranting too and asked him his name( dreaming me somehow knew him, but woke me had no clue who it was was), we shook hands and he confessed he did not know his name because it was just a dream and the dreamer hadn't given him one. I told him I hadn't realised I gave him no name. He said I didn't create him but my brother, who I saw run through my dream very briefly, did. Our dreams had murged and my brother had subconsciously created this character as one of my friends for me. I asked dream guy if he would like me to give him a name, he agreed to it. I named him olly and he looked happy about it. We stayed woundering my dream together untill I woke up
    I know that he very likely was made up by my subconscious, and not my brothers, but I find it very cool that subconscious me was able to spin that story on the spot.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 місяці тому

      That is very cool!

    • @ippokratisklimis
      @ippokratisklimis 9 днів тому +1

      With all these characters and plots I am wondering are we are consciously dreaming or we are DREAMING that we are?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  9 днів тому

      Ok I actually love this question

  • @Hrafnskald
    @Hrafnskald 3 роки тому +16

    I also like how you used the word conjure. Conjuring something doesn't mean creating it, rather it generally means making a connection and summoning it. I've often had dreams that felt like I was living a day in the life of someone totally different, for example, a young woman who was in the military, and at the end of these, I didn't feel that the dream had created the woman's life or status quo, but rather that it had temporarily formed a connection between my consciousness and the woman in the dream. This isn't as far off as it sounds, as we do this regularly with stories: we step into another life, and experience it vicariously for a while, then come out of the experience with empathy and understanding of that person.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +5

      Absolutely. And there are dreams where the dreamer is a disembodied consciousness floating around. Sometimes we are dreaming and we see ourselves walking around doing various things. Some lucid dreamers develop a technique of character hopping--deliberately floating "into" another character's body and experiencing the narrative from the other character's point of view.

  • @jeffdymek2694
    @jeffdymek2694 3 роки тому +21

    One of my favorite personal lucid dreams:
    Me: extends (dreambody) hand for handshake as I introduce myself.
    Dream Character: fist bumps instead of handshake.
    Me: where were you before I arrived here?
    Dream Character: I was wondering the same thing about you.
    He went on to explain that he had been driving an RV around a curve and "...boom! I ended up here."

    • @erikgoodwyn9133
      @erikgoodwyn9133 3 роки тому +2

      Thats a great dream! Fascinating.

    • @jeffdymek2694
      @jeffdymek2694 3 роки тому +3

      It's an absolutely fascinating question; one that I like to explore in my lucid dreams.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +2

      I love that: "I was wondering the same thing about you!". Dream characters have snark and sarcasm with the best of us!

  • @Carolynnntaylor
    @Carolynnntaylor Рік тому +9

    I think it’s an astral plane where all entities are able to communicate, mingle, teach one another, what I don’t understand is why asking the time and date is such a big deal. It’s interesting that you mention that others in the dream state are aware the dreamer is dreaming before the dreamer realized it. The disturbing part is why isn’t the opposite true, or is it just when we are lucid dreaming we are not “connected” to this part. Tiktokers when asking the date and time in the lucid dream state experienced a immediate “hive” response where every character within their “dream” went after them to try to kick them out of the dream state, many were bumped into a different dream space, or a dream space mimicking their real life in order to trick them into believing they are awake or a sleep paralysis state, most people reported their faces changing, being told they are not suppose to ask that question, it’s just crazy at the similarities between stories, to the point where you pretty much have to rule it out as coincidence. Have you looked into this phenomenon yet? If not is it something that will be looked at further?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому +1

      Fascinating theory! As my philosophical approach is that of holistic panpsychism, I think there might be a way to understand "astral plane" from that established point of view.

  • @graciquintilhano
    @graciquintilhano 11 місяців тому +8

    Last night I had a dream.
    I was going down a street and someone warned me about how dangerous that street was.
    Then a lady, that I just by my side said:
    "No it is not, this is just a dream".
    I looked around and realised that yes, it was.
    I usually have some sort of lucid dreams but every time I notice it I wake up, but this time I stayed awake.
    I asked her how did she know it was a lucid dream, she said it was because she was lucid dreaming too.
    So I asked if she was in my dream, she said she didn't know.
    We then decided to spend some time together.
    We asked about each other's lives.
    We build explored mountain.
    We agreed to meet again.
    I told her about my problem about always waking up when noticing the lucid dream.
    She told me to research about it and here I am.
    Funny thing you say that the character realising we are dreaming before we are, because that was exactly how it happened.
    So, someone invaded my dream or it was just a very interactive character?

    • @holegrease
      @holegrease 4 місяці тому +3

      My father (66 years old) has been lucid dreaming for many years. He has told me countless lucid dreams he has experienced. The one that sticks out to me the most is he thought he was in some German city. (We are in USA) Usually, he says once he realizes he s dreaming; entities will also know he is dreaming and attack him. Usually in the form of a siren or some evil woman. Well during this German city lucid dream that happened and this lady started piercingly screaming at him. He claimed he powered his body through walls of buildings, breaking them and pushing through wall after wall. After a while of running through walls he met a European man. My dad got his name and where he was born and other information about the man. He wrote it down many years ago but we can't find the information. He has claimed to met this man numerous times in other lucid dreams and the man always remembers their encounters, as does my Father.
      Sorry for the rambling, but did you ever figure out what this can mean?

    • @graciquintilhano
      @graciquintilhano 3 місяці тому +3

      @@holegrease That's is very cool that your dad actually tried to find the person.
      I would be afraid they think I'm a mad woman! 😅
      Also, these entities hunting him sounds like a horrible nightmare.
      Here is what happened after that...
      Every time I had a lucid dream I would try to find her, but as before, I keep waking up just after realising I am dreaming.
      In the start of December I started having problems with my meditation sessions.
      I was feeling like I was having an out-body experience and, I did not enjoy that feeling. I was seeing things that I could not make out and I could not really say if I was falling asleep and lucid dreaming during the meditation or reaching nirvana but in any way it was starting to freak me out, so I decided to take a break from meditation for a week.
      That same week I had this dream (not exactly lucid)...
      I was on what I believe was a mansion, that seemed to work as a boarding school;
      I wad walking around it trying to find my teacher. (I didn't understand what I was doing there, all I knew was that I was lost and looking for my teacher)
      I went to a side of this place that was empty, there I found a massive staircase that would lead me downstairs, it had a big bronze chandelier hanging in te middle of it.
      At the bottom of the stairs I could see that there was a corridor to each side of the building. (So essentially this staircase ended on a dark green wall with two side exit).
      Half way down the stair there she was, the same girl, sitting there with a dog (a female German Shepherd).
      She didn't notice me, but I knew it was her because of her hair.
      When I got close and said hi, she stares at me.
      The dog started crying and at the same time I ask, do you study here?
      Before I can finish she disappeared.
      I looked ahead (behind the chandelier on a area of the wall I couldn't see before because it was so big that blocked the view) and I see her feet and dress.
      She was hang by her neck, her skin was fairly dry as if she was there, dead for a while. I didn't look at her face. The feet and dress was enough to know it was her.
      I pat the dog's head (she kept crying), ran down the stairs and took the right exit, because I didn't want to walk underneath her body.
      In the end of the corridor I found a room with some teachers, my teacher was also there. He told me I should be calling him professor and not teacher.
      In complete shock, I asked what happened on the staircase, he said that she killed herself there and they left her body there to make companion for the dog.
      I told him I saw her ghost.
      He asked me if I didn't know she was dead, and why I was so shocked.
      I asked him what did he mean and what he expected.
      He dismissed me saying "well she always told everyone she would do it, what were you doing on that wing of the building anyway."
      I mentioned I was lost and was trying to find him.
      He said something like "If I am not in our class room, I am in this room, you know it well.
      Apparently she is just trying to let you know now".
      I asked where was the exist, he says "this is the exit".
      I saw a door, I walked out and outside I recognised the road I used to live when I was a teenager.
      Then I woke up thinking of an old friend.
      I contacted him, he is a "voodoo priest" I know in Brazil. He is a leader in a Candomblé temple, super sensitive to supernatural stuff, and he always told me I am too, even though I avoid it like the plague.
      I grew up in a family with religious fanaticism and although I am the black sheep that left the church and abandoned the religion when I was 12yo,
      I am still quite scared of everything my family judged as wrong and evil.
      Last year I did find out that my ancestors were Bantu, that is part of Candomblé.
      Anyway, sorry me for the rambling but...
      He explained to me that if I kept trying to find her in my lucid dreams, this could be exactly what I was searching for.
      He cannot say if she is dead or if that is how she died but he told me to interpret that as an ending anyway and stop trying to find her.
      He also mentioned that it is common for people to contact after death but it is usually to someone in their family and not too long after death.
      The body looked old and we are not related.
      And that maybe she was just trying to let me know as the professor mentioned in the dream.
      He told me to not dismiss the dream because he always sensed this sensitivity on me, reminded me that dreams have meaning and told me to take this dream as I want to.
      ------------- the end------------
      I am starting to accept that I am more connected to the supernatural than I would like to be, and that there is more to it than I will ever know.
      I personally think she is dead.
      That she lead me there to let me know but she could not communicate to me, maybe because of the time or because I am not that open to the supernatural realm, and that is why she disappeared when I made questions.
      The dream felt too real and too clear to not be true.
      A few years ago I went to this haunted house in Ireland (Loftus Hall) and there in front of around 20 people I had a supernatural experience, my husband was there and to this day he jokes saying that they paid me to do that or they hypnotised me by spiking the tea I bought there. The act is that we cannot explain why my arms started to float and I started to move as if I was dancing on a ball in the 19th century. (I would tell you more but it is another long story)
      I just say I am a bit of a witch (a green witch, because I am too scared of dark magic 🤣 ).
      Anyway, sorry for the ebook.
      Take care.

    • @User-ut3vb
      @User-ut3vb Місяць тому

      ​@@graciquintilhanodaaaamn, write more, you got me really invested. I want to know more!

  • @greatvizard7487
    @greatvizard7487 2 роки тому +10

    I had a dream where I was aware of myself but also seeing my self sleeping and having a nightmare in same dream , I tried to awake that other myself from nightmare telling that myself wake up its only nightmare don't be afraid just wake up. That dream scared me so much that I truly thought something is wrong with me.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому

      Fascinating dream, Great Vizard! Thanks for sharing that with us here.

    • @TheGiu77
      @TheGiu77 2 місяці тому

      Nosso subconsciente é um sentinela. Sempre atento às coisas qiq nos pode fazer mal. Mas é parte nossa. Mas muitos levam isso para o misticismo. É uma pena.
      Quando vc conversa no seu sonho com um personagem, está na verdade, conversando com seu subconsciente. E quando vc percebe que é um sonho, tu não confia mais neste personagem, e agora ele é um inimigo que pode te atacar.

  • @cosmolosys
    @cosmolosys 28 днів тому +5

    I remember I was walking down a street in my dream and I was thinking okay so this is a dream right? And a character passing by casually said "yep" 😂 I found that hilarious.

  • @coininstant6908
    @coininstant6908 2 місяці тому +3

    I always have lucid dreams, I had one recently where me an a party of people were all jumping around a large trampoline in circles higher and higher, when I realized i was dreaming and began to jump up really high and fly a little bit at the top of my jump. Well this angered one of the dream characters who was a bully type guy and he started chasing me around and even hit me. He kept saying "Hey this isn't fair, why does he get to fly and I don't" lol I knew I was dreaming, but his punches hurt and I flew away at the speed of light. I've interviewed hundreds of dream characters, I tell them you are in my dream and they never believe me until I prove it to them and fly around. Some of the reactions on their faces are utter shock. Some will believe it, some won't. I'll hear hit songs on the radio or tv in my dreams. Just the other day I was dreaming and I heard this Grateful Dead song and the chorus went like this "Because Maybe we couldn’t let you, but somehow I just think that we must try!"

  • @theholychonk8324
    @theholychonk8324 2 роки тому +12

    The characters on my dreams are pretty much like npcs in a videogame.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +6

      Have you ever seen Free Guy? Better watch out for those npcs...

  • @intergalacticpuff6252
    @intergalacticpuff6252 Рік тому +6

    While dreaming, I told my mom she wasn't real and her face started morphing and distorting, she was screaming in what seemed like agony, and the world began shaking and falling apart.
    Has anyone had similar experiences?

    • @solarisorchestra8385
      @solarisorchestra8385 10 місяців тому

      I dreamed of my mother in the same way, except that she had already passed away two weeks before, but when I told her that she was not real, I only saw her sad

    • @dreamz5380
      @dreamz5380 Місяць тому

      @@solarisorchestra8385why say that shi tho? I see that typa shi also but I just go with it cause it feels good to somewhat spend time with loved ones again even if it isn’t real

  • @nouryanetg8346
    @nouryanetg8346 2 роки тому +10

    I HAD A LUCID DREAM BESTFRIEND NAMED GRINNY CAT AND HE WAS MY FRIEND SINCE I WAS 5 (NOW I’M 12 AND HE’S STILL MY BESTFRIEND) ,AND ONE DAY MY LIL 5 YEARS OLD BROTHER SAID THAT HE DREAMED ABOUT A RED CAT NAMED GRINNY THAT IT WAS HIS BESTFRIEND EVEN IF I DIDN’T TELL HIM ABOUT IT.....!!😳😳😳

  • @Theaveragedragonkin
    @Theaveragedragonkin Рік тому +5

    I've had a self aware dream where it wasn't lucid. The dream was aware, i was aware yet it wasn't lucid dreaming. I asked the dream person a personal question and it answered truthfully. I find it really interesting

  • @voidwaypr
    @voidwaypr 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video. Through my time in lucid dreaming practice, I've found it strange how a large majority of other people seem to have "weak" dream characters. They're either boring, aggressive, or have predicable responses. Never with my characters. Even before the my best lucid dreams with persistent characters, which are the most grounded characters out of any of my dreams, they have always been unique. Fun. And it's a shame that as of right now there's absolutely no way to describe it better than that.
    I really was thinking if I had access to a REM communication device, my first study would be about live projecting dream characters (the "strong willed" kind which aren't easily influenced) into a real space. Somewhat similar to Tholey's study, I get lucid and go into a room with one of the guys, awake person asks a question, character responds, I return the response. It would technically be like a completely different person at that point. Is just a fantasy though until I get the right budget, haha.

  • @You-dm2eh
    @You-dm2eh 2 роки тому +10

    (daytime)
    I knew it was a dream because everything was dim and I could feel my eyes opened and closed at the same time
    I remembered being at the my apartment but this wasn’t the same apartment it was a nicer apartment complex/park
    (it reminded me of my dad’s apartment but he never lived here before)
    i follow the sound of music in the park along with other people until we found the source of music it was a small group of people in the courtyard
    (sunset)
    we danced we laughed for a while it seemed
    (night)
    some people were lighting up (weed) i fell over trying to dance and avoid bumping into someone.
    we lauged and then the cops knocked on the back door (yes we are in a random house)
    3 of them
    i was going to head out the party at the exact same time but was stopped by the cop as the other cops were banging on the side door
    he asked me if I smoke offering me a cigarette
    I laughed and said no but I vape
    he retorted with “you shouldn’t need that either they should be banned”
    I just laughed and said “oh well…”
    some party goers were outside with the cop and I, when I had the bright idea to pull a big brain Player One trick on the NPCs of my dream. I tried to get the cops attention but he was busy with something else next to me so
    i turned to a random party goer guy and said: “guess what?”
    he said what’s up
    “did you know that this reality is all just a dream?”
    he looked confused
    the cop next to me put his hand on my shoulder and said: “They don’t see it either, just look up…”
    I slowly look up with sudden dread and creepy music setting in and like a safety pod I ejected myself from the dream and woke up.
    this happened today and my heart was racing,
    my eyes get watery every time I read this lol

    • @You-dm2eh
      @You-dm2eh 2 роки тому +2

      sorry about the formatting

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +1

      Wow, what an amazing lucid dream! Thanks so much for sharing this fascinating experience with us here on the channel. What a ride!

  • @hanhepicetan
    @hanhepicetan Рік тому +5

    I recently went to the dream world and became lucid. There was a blonde lady behind a desk. I asked her what today's date is. She said there is no date. Time is different here. Then I woke up. I'm starting to think they may be people that live there, and there are certain rules to follow, and we are just visitors there.

  • @odnumyar4230
    @odnumyar4230 3 роки тому +9

    I asked a character in my dream, where he was from and proceeded to tell me he was from atlanta...
    For a second it seemed like I was meeting a real person's avatar..

    • @erikgoodwyn9133
      @erikgoodwyn9133 3 роки тому +1

      Wow thats pretty interesting! What did they say?

    • @odnumyar4230
      @odnumyar4230 3 роки тому +4

      @@erikgoodwyn9133 I don't remember if they said anything else after but I remember thinking to myself..how crazy is it that this dream person is from a city in the US that I have never really thought about..why atlanta?

  • @kidjohne2119
    @kidjohne2119 Рік тому +4

    I was dreaming I can't really remember the situation I was in, it almost felt like an orphanage I've always been with my parents so I don't know what that feels like there were weird tapestries with symbols on them everywhere and it scared me, I asked a random girl in my dream wondering where my parents were she then said "up on the hill" I asked for directions and I followed her into a dark corridor where I saw more symbols then a strange figure with a mask surprised me and yelled blink twice I did and instantly woke up. I have goosebumps still.

  • @Ethan_Frost
    @Ethan_Frost 21 годину тому

    One time I was having a very potent dream, that almost seemed to be “sent” to me. I’m not sure how to describe the feeling. But to confirm this feeling, in the dream, I wanted to ask one of the dream characters something I know I wouldn’t know, and as I had just sat down in a chair next to somebody, I asked him how to say sit in Chinese. (I have zero knowledge of Chinese). He said something like zoo-ah, all as one syllable.
    Amazingly, this is in fact correct. To this day, I’m not exactly sure what to make of that…

  • @kamana6435
    @kamana6435 2 роки тому +7

    Wow that was a great video I have not heard about this study. I have often wondered about dream characters in one of my lucid dreams I stared into the eyes of a dream character and felt another consciousness it was a very powerful dream. I have experienced many different dream characters some seem
    1 dimensional or give random answers while others seem to be fully featured individuals. In one of my lucid dreams there were many characters around and I was feeling quite powerful so I asked all dream characters to sit down and they all did apart from one dream character that just stood there. I was quite Shocked.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +1

      That is fascinating...I really wish there were more studies like this one out there. Sure sounds like you discovered the answer, though!

  • @NiewiemWWIII
    @NiewiemWWIII 11 днів тому +2

    Music in background makes video terrifying 😭 I’m scared help

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  11 днів тому

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Sweetsurrender444
      @Sweetsurrender444 9 днів тому +1

      Me too ffs now I’m scared
      Also I assumed they are from parallel universes not from my actual mind I don’t want sharing my mind lol far out get outtttaaa my head omfg 🤬

  • @laylashneperds821
    @laylashneperds821 2 роки тому +7

    I had a lucid dream very recently in which I ended up in a train in the middle of space and I witnessed my daily thoughts generate into different characters and come inside the train through a portal, the environment was very horrific. Some dream characters avoided me despite my attempts to speak to them, some were only interacting with each other and the ones that were willing to reply to me seemed very very and I cannot stress this enough, strong minded. I tried to get every ones attention in the middle of the train in order to directly speak to my subconscious mind since I’ve heard that’s where things you don’t know about yourself hide. After one only answered 2 personal questions about me and ignored the follow up question with a laugh, in an attempt to persuade them to speak to me again I stated “ I’m the host of this body, the least you all can do is respect me and answer my questions.” The character that previously answered the questions looked back at me and said “ If you’re not happy I’d be glad to take your place.” I told it no I am happy near-calmly but inside I was kind of freaking out The character signaled backing off with it’s hands but the shock caused me to wake up. This was one of my strangest lucid dream experiences.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +2

      Wow that is pretty amazing!

    • @snaker9er
      @snaker9er 2 роки тому +2

      Sounds like they were mirroring your own stressing of the situation and your strong minded attempts to get answers

    • @laylashneperds821
      @laylashneperds821 2 роки тому +2

      @@snaker9er That’s very reasonable and interesting. Thank you!

    • @jaykaneki7448
      @jaykaneki7448 2 роки тому +1

      @@laylashneperds821 why didn't you say yes?

    • @laylashneperds821
      @laylashneperds821 2 роки тому

      @@jaykaneki7448 I like having choices

  • @inmommashands7139
    @inmommashands7139 19 днів тому +1

    As an avid lucid dreamer some are some aren't, but some are good some are not

  • @ernitis1304
    @ernitis1304 2 роки тому +5

    Man, this made me wanna pick up lucid dreaming again. I do wonder how much the "techniques" used to induce it matter, vs the unconscious mind simply granting us permission to be lucid which would make us think the techniques "worked".
    Frustratingly enough, in my most recent lucid dreams when I was "practicing" them, they were very barren. I felt very lonely. And if there were people, they'd turn out to be inanimate statues.
    I did see characters once, especially a character from internal fantasies that I've wanted to meet. Said character warmly smiled at me before disappearing. The rest of the people there just seemed like NPCs, with very simple coding. They were all cultists for some reason too, perhaps almost "braiwashed" into being simple. Weird stuff, but a fun memory to come back to.
    You've earned yourself a sub! Awesome content. I came from the Jung to Live By channel :D

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому

      Glad to hear it! Your experiences are certainly fascinating and warrant a much deeper exploration with a trusted mentor/therapist/advisor. Glad to have you aboard!

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому

      I have an episode on lucid dreaming also--check it out!

  • @shereehi5054
    @shereehi5054 3 роки тому +8

    Mine are. They even accept I am dreaming them up.

  • @1KingFisher
    @1KingFisher 8 місяців тому +1

    I had a dream where I suddenly became aware that it was a dream. I was talking to someone I knew and suddenly I realized it wasn’t them. As soon as I realized that they looked different, the figure in front of me became so clear and the face was like a shadow (like black smoke). When I confronted him and told him he wasn’t the real person, he got really upset and kept trying to hide his face. I could feel him trying to push me out of the dream, but I kept asking who he was and why he was pretending to be the person I know. He just kept getting more and not angry. It was really creepy.

  • @fortress1677
    @fortress1677 10 днів тому +1

    Dreams are weird. I remember a couple years back I had two dreams where I was a completely different person with a completely different life. In one of these dreams I was a teenage boy instead of a girl. It was a surreal experience but it felt so real.

    • @GazingAtTheMoon
      @GazingAtTheMoon 4 дні тому

      It happened to me a few weeks ago too! And it was distressing because I was getting convinced that my life to this point was an illusion and this new person I woke up as is the reality. It was extremely vivid and convincing.

  • @ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist
    @ArlindoPhilosophicalArtist 6 місяців тому +1

    This is right up my street. If you want to have a chat about lucid dreaming and the possibilities, get in touch!

  • @xinmusicUK
    @xinmusicUK Місяць тому +1

    I once asked a dream character (while lucid). Are you purely a creation of my mind or are you an entity in your own right? They responded " a bit of both". So perhaps your mind can create entities....

  • @fizzypizzel6477
    @fizzypizzel6477 2 роки тому +7

    There needs to me more research on this.

  • @newcures7813
    @newcures7813 4 місяці тому +1

    That was VERY interesting! Thank you for sharing!

  • @Jaybiiird
    @Jaybiiird 2 роки тому +5

    This is really neat thanks, it is a little annoying because dreams are supposed to be an escape from reality where you can do whatever, but for example, if dream characters are conscious beings it raises a ton of ethical quandaries about how they should be treated and everything. On the otherhand, it means you can form genuine relationships with people who are also you which I think is fascinating

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +3

      Indeed, it is quite wild and brings up a lot of weird questions!

  • @CoCreation.with.Qualia
    @CoCreation.with.Qualia 2 місяці тому +1

    You blew my mind here.

  • @Shining.Darkness
    @Shining.Darkness 2 місяці тому +1

    Unconscious mind, surprisingly, kept trying to program its own behaviour into me during this dream life (staying silent and still). I suspect I created a game that is too hard and it made this life very unpleasant for me so I should stop doing that. What annoyed me the most is how my unconscious kept resisting giving me my favorite shadow demon phoenix dragon goat form, forcing this flawed human body form on me.

  • @cheyrncheyrn
    @cheyrncheyrn 27 днів тому +1

    Internal Family Systems therapy , based on analyzing mental faculties as if they are beings which you talk to. It's a pretty surprising process. I think that is just how human mentality works. We confuse ourselves by thinking our internal dialog is us.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  27 днів тому +1

      It definitely is--dissociation is a natural mental process.

  • @evagarcia865
    @evagarcia865 Рік тому +4

    There’s a creature that follows me from dream to dream. Tall, shadowy figure with a pale white face (probably a mask) and an open chest with exposed ribs and heart.
    Tries to attack me but any source of light (flashlight, sun…) will destroy it for the entirety of the current dream, but it will come back

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому

      Fascinating! What do you suppose it means?

    • @AOD92
      @AOD92 Рік тому +1

      How long have u been having this dream. Theirs reasons this could b happening. One that I know of could b cause by trauma from something terribly bad. Sorry 2 hear u have been going through this. I know it's hard to do for certain people but u need to fight this entity head on. Show it no fear. U r the ruler of ur dream world. Hope that helps.

    • @5aitama638
      @5aitama638 9 місяців тому

      It made seem scary in the moment, but if you can the next time you meet this thing, don’t run from it or scream but simply ask “why are you chasing/attacking me?” It’s your subconscious the answer will be given

  • @jamesmoranthefascinatingyo1764
    @jamesmoranthefascinatingyo1764 18 годин тому

    I first tried Lucid Dreaming when I was 16 and I had a couple of them at the time, I think the last one I had was a couple of months ago.

  • @playlistaccount
    @playlistaccount 2 дні тому

    I dunno why this video was in my watch history, I don’t remember clicking it or watching it. It synchronistically ties in to something i’ve been pondering though, and what i’ve uncovered, at least experientially is that these parts of consciousness, seemingly originated from our conciseness, or communicating with our consciousness, is in fact that they too, have their own consciousness. Words written may not make sense, but if you’ve understood it first hand, they’ll possibly make sense.

  • @Hrafnskald
    @Hrafnskald 3 роки тому +4

    I like how they went with Orlog and Charm :)

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +1

      I know right? I didn't get into the interesting term in the video, but that was a strange choice, wasn't it?

  • @staceyjararuse6276
    @staceyjararuse6276 Рік тому +3

    I remember saying to a dream character that he should've been retired 10-13 years ago and he took me aside and basically interviewed me and said how do you know this? And I wasn't scared but it was just interesting that they are triggered with time questions or suggestions.

  • @EternityUnknown
    @EternityUnknown Рік тому +4

    The subconscious controls about 90% of your memory. Your consciousness is a calculator, that uniquely has "recall" or what is the ability to access parts of that memory based on how frequently that memory is used. When you dream you involuntarily share parts of your processing unit with your subconscious in return for a realistic environment. Your subconscious isn't more knowledgeable than you, but is significantly faster than you, so when you're in a lucid dream the dream itself knows far more about you and your reality in a moment than your incredibly slow consciousness in that same moment. This would make the subconscious appear to be its own being. This explains the rhymes and math easily, and everything else is probably the subconscious utilizing memory the consciousness likely hasn't accessed more than once.

  • @SmutnyCzlek
    @SmutnyCzlek Місяць тому +1

    It gets pretty simple if you assume conciousness is not a product of the mind but sovereign entity that you can experience because of your mind.

  • @andersonsystem2
    @andersonsystem2 2 роки тому +4

    This is indeed the most amazing thing I have ever heard,

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +1

      Isn't it wild? I love it.

    • @andersonsystem2
      @andersonsystem2 2 роки тому

      @@theimaginarium Yes it is. Good content keep up the amazing work.

  • @rmoisio
    @rmoisio 3 роки тому +9

    This is a very interesting question. Recently, i asked a dream character is a lucid dream what they were. the answer was gobblegook. in some other lucid dreams, i have felt that some, maybe once or twice, dream characters are not dream characters at all but some other type of consciosnesses external to my own mind. in one distinctly powerful LD, i felt that another character in the dream was another LDer.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому +2

      That's pretty wild! I haven't done any videos on parapsychology yet, but maybe I should!

    • @rmoisio
      @rmoisio 3 роки тому +1

      @@theimaginarium Part of the other dream was also what looked like my grandmother. However, it was like a static image and i asked "her" "are you my aunt?" (lol). No response or reaction. but Straight out of David lynch's twin peaks II type deal - she dispappeared like a tulpa. That is when a more active dream character appeared. Some other dream characters by the way seem on occasion to lack awareness. they have a zombie look. In some other past lucid dream, i asked dream characters to charge me with awareness. in consequence, they lost (!) they awareness. WTF?!

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому

      @@rmoisio The psyche is never simple, is it?

    • @rmoisio
      @rmoisio 3 роки тому +2

      @@theimaginarium why would it? he

    • @wokk9543
      @wokk9543 2 роки тому +2

      tf does gobblegook mean

  • @Alexander375H
    @Alexander375H Рік тому +3

    I feel like this is an example where knowing is dangerous

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому

      Interesting perspective! Care to elaborate? What might be dangerous, do you think?

    • @MaxPowers99
      @MaxPowers99 4 місяці тому

      @@theimaginarium perhaps if your soul leaves your body and wanders to the astral plane, it could become a vessel for something else. kind of like in that horror movie. maybe your concioussness can be trapped somewehere forever if you are not careful and no one is around who knows how to get you out of that situation. that would in fact be the worst fate you can meet.

  • @lilyfhonazhel2675
    @lilyfhonazhel2675 Рік тому +2

    Seen this in few comments in other vids and with interesting outcomes
    It is saying "this/you are just a dream " to a dream character or multiple characters
    Often I see in the comments is of anger and denial from the characters. Like doing creepy stuffs and scaring the dreamer, creepy looks and event. As if the characters and the dream is angry that it is said. As if they want to prove they're real, as if something in them is triggered
    Some do say theirs is more chill, with the dream and characters being benevolent and not doing malicious acts.

  • @chrome6570
    @chrome6570 3 місяці тому +1

    I asked my mom in a lucid dream if she was conscious, if she could think. She said no, the words just come.

  • @AndrasNagy2001
    @AndrasNagy2001 2 місяці тому +1

    In the ordinary examination of the three states (waking, dream, and deep sleep), there’s a bias in which I’m taking the waking state as the measurement to evaluate my experience of dreams and deep sleep. This unique sub-teaching of Vedanta challenges us to give up this bias. And to examine what exactly the experience is. What is my experience? Of my waking state when I’m awake. And what is my experience?
    Further, the third state, instead of saying from the waking point of view, “it was a deep sleep.” I didn’t know anything. I was unconscious. And then I woke up, and the world, the real world, appeared instead of the dream. What was the experience of the deep sleep, your experience at that you were experiencing deep sleep? In other words, we need an unbiased unprejudiced view.
    We should examine each experience from the point of view of the experience of the state. Of course, this is not easy to do. But it is pretty doable with little effort.

  • @playlistaccount
    @playlistaccount 2 дні тому

    2:14 Yes they tell you stuff you don’t know, show you things you’ve never saw. I think of them as spirit guides taking the form of whatever they know to get your attention, so even that, would imply some degree of consciousness, or rather, intelligence.

    • @playlistaccount
      @playlistaccount 2 дні тому

      Based on what you are saying and the study, it is plausible they are the parts of the people we know that can only be communicated in a specific way. I am in touch with all that stuff so I can read it pretty well usually, it’s like there is a real time physical connection taking place here, but there is also some unconscious type mechanism interacting with everything, including those we meet, like what is happening for us, it’s happening for them too. We just don’t see it in our physical, conscious body’s. But it does happen. Something is happening, at least, I think it is. It could just be the brain or mind, or human, or whatever this is just isn’t properly understood though. So we try understand it from this physical conscious level, but we can’t, cause they are separate. Separate models of understanding. This ties in to visual based learning, and prophetic ideas. I think this is what the mind does, or, it’s at least within the parameters of our existence. It’s like gazing eyes catching another gazing eye, very rarely, do the two meet. But when they do, it is unquestionable.
      Again, much of which I write probably won’t make sense, you more have to be able to come from the place i’m coming from primarily, to properly understand. Without experience, it will just be words in the case of describing this kind of stuff.

  • @robloxplayzyt3997
    @robloxplayzyt3997 Рік тому +3

    My dream character made up a technique for chasing game they called it utam what you do is if there are 2 doors you lock the first one then leave the other door open make sure your outside that room them they enter the room from the open door then catch the one your chasing

  • @entropy608
    @entropy608 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting video. I have only ever had one lucid dream but that was several years ago. Nonetheless, a few points:
    1. If something is conjuring up the dream characters then could it be conjuring up you the dream character?
    2. Perhaps, it was always you conjuring up both your dream character and the characters you meet. Except you didn't know it.
    3. How do you know that in the waking state your waking character is not conjured up, but is the real you?
    4. Deep Sleep is dreamless. Yet everyone recalls it. How would you know that?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 місяці тому +1

      These are fantastic questions--all worthy of further investigation, I think. Jung argued that the ego is indeed emergent from the Self. The psyche definitely has the ability to make many egos--just look at dissociation. Also, even deep NREM sleep can still have dream activity.

  • @medusaskull9625
    @medusaskull9625 2 роки тому +4

    Interesting.

  • @dolaopposite
    @dolaopposite 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the first time I've believed other stories like this, I do it a couple times a week. It's the oddest thing. It's crazy lol. But I love it

  • @j.deegan3029
    @j.deegan3029 3 роки тому +7

    I am a songwriter and have had dream characters compose entire verses of song for me. Or, what I guess I should say is that I stole their original work and passed it off as my own? Hahahaha. Oh man, would I be in trouble
    For real though, interesting video. I didn't know about this. The "people" I encounter in dreams tend either to be bits of myself pr others I've known well, rough surface-only versions of really obscure people from throughout my life, the most basic personal credentials of people I only know of or have only heard of (for example a character who looks like you, about whom I've only just learned, imposed onto a more or less new personality - so for example, a character who looks like you but is maybe the ticket taker at a movie theater I end up going to in my dream).
    One question though, during this study was the chase ever just cut to and the dreamers asked direct the question: "So, are you actually alive and aware of what's going on right now, or are you just a cartoon my brain is stringing together out of the information it spends my sleeping time sorting through"?
    Also, what if dream people aren't (usually) conscious but are other non-lucid dreamers from "somewhere else" (be it the world as we know it or elsewhere) with lucids being the seemingly conscious dreamfolk we encounter at times?
    Basically: normal dreamers become non conscious dream characters for the dreams of others when sleeping. The conscious dream characters equate to waked lucid dreamers. Hope this made sense (it probably didn't)
    P.S. I am a semi-lucid. It's rare now that I'm an adult. And I've never been able to decide to have them. They just occurred when they felt it fit to make themselves occur. And also, I subscribed.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому

      That is a fascinating story! Glad to hear you have subscribed. Look forward to more comments!

    • @j.deegan3029
      @j.deegan3029 3 роки тому +2

      @@theimaginarium lol thanks

  • @Shadowinthehall
    @Shadowinthehall 6 місяців тому +1

    When someone says they dreamt of you and realizing that thing is in no way you and wondering who they where talking to😩

  • @Alex-mi8qr
    @Alex-mi8qr Місяць тому +1

    "What does it mean when you lucid dream and someone tells you they know your lucid dreaming" . This has happened twice. The first time it happened i remember running from people it was like a movie scene thru the hotel the house and then ending up in a little room somewhere , and someone appears and tell me im all good and that and i say im lucid dreaming and he says he knows and from there we took off since we had each other i know he was a guy but he had a suit and silver face no hair no eyes no nothing just a head . recently i had one like this again i didnt know i was dreaming then i realized i was lucid dreaming, later on i tell a girl i was with its crazy that im in a episode right now and if i say it then it will end (didnt wanna say dreaming or lucid dreaming becuz uk how that goes) and she tells me i know the episode and im like ?...also she was making faces as in signailing because we were infront of other people and she knew if she slipped up the dream could end but im like theres no way she knows too mind blowing .and at the same time it felt like i knew who she was in real life but couldnt put a name to it, her energy jus felt familar. then we chatted for a bit out of no where we teleport somewhere and its some lady she was looking mad (guessing she was like a higher up of the dream like the dream characters are npc n she is in control but she also is a dream character) and then shes looking at us both and she cuts somethings arm and boom i wake up a little bit after. crazy dream but what stuck out was how did these dream people know i was lucid dreaming and as well how the girl also was lucid dreaming is this possible or is it my mind

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Місяць тому

      That's really wild. Not sure what's going on there!

  • @prativadhillon5034
    @prativadhillon5034 Рік тому +5

    What do you have to say about the fact that many when ask their dream characters “what time is it” “what day is it” the dream characters get angry and weird stuff happens?

    • @madmorderan8363
      @madmorderan8363 Рік тому

      is that always the case that they do that?

    • @baluga1988
      @baluga1988 11 місяців тому

      This happens in my lucid dreams as well

  • @thenonphysical
    @thenonphysical 6 місяців тому +1

    I see one assumption that I disagree with, that dreams are "in our heads", and another one that is not put on the table, that dream characters are driven by a system, similar to our AI engines like ChatGPT and all.
    The AI system can have all the information and the characters (NPCs) are just avatars (interfaces) of that AI system.
    Questions should be aim more into "free will test", like "choose between a 0 and 1 and explain your choice".

  • @mattwright6786
    @mattwright6786 3 місяці тому +1

    They are just as conscious as you and I. They are just parts of our conscious, separated from the whole. We’ve already proven that the brain can be cut in half, and essentially be two people in one body.

  • @cronaman3196
    @cronaman3196 Рік тому +1

    Your content is really underrated for how imfformitive it is 👍 i love this shit

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому

      Thanks! Make sure to tell everyone to join in 😁

  • @Secret.acc123
    @Secret.acc123 2 роки тому +9

    i know this might be weird but imagine if dream characters were other humans asleep

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +4

      That certainly would be weird! How might you be able to test that hypothesis?

    • @Secret.acc123
      @Secret.acc123 2 роки тому +4

      @@theimaginarium i'll ask them questions that relate to them being asleep tonight and i'll try and get back to you with the results! ( if I remember! )

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +2

      @@Secret.acc123 wonderful. I can't wait to hear the results.

    • @genzgamer3381
      @genzgamer3381 2 роки тому

      You are talking about inception movie

  • @sushikome2682
    @sushikome2682 2 роки тому +5

    I once had a lucid dream where I asked my mother (inside the dream) if I can meet my subconscious mind. Now, when I told her that, she stared at me with a look of surprise mixed with bewilderment on her face as if to say ''what are you talking about? you're not allowed to say that". the dream after that faded And I woke up. I really wonder why she gave me that look without saying anything.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +1

      Very interesting Sushi Kome! Hard to say why she might react like that.

    • @marqgz
      @marqgz 2 роки тому +3

      I’ve heard the easiest way to have a conversation with your subconscious in a lucid dream is to spawn a dream character and decide that they are your subconscious. Then just have a conversation. Technically, you could have a conversation with any dream character that isn’t based off of someone you know or someone with a defining trait because everything in your dreams is you and your subconscious.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому

      @@marqgz I will have to try that! Seems like it could be very effective.

    • @marqgz
      @marqgz 2 роки тому +1

      @@theimaginarium alright! Also, what is more effective? WILD, or FILD?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +1

      @@marqgz That's the question, isn't it? For me, it's WILD. But that's just me.

  • @ClausJesup
    @ClausJesup 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for giving credit to Dr.Tholey whose research was always a little out of the ordinary. But science wouldn't move a step forward if it wasn't for such people. A Gestalt psychologist and pioneer in Lucid Dream studies, along with Stephen LaBerge. Unfortunately, Tholey died with just 62. And yes, the fact that dream characters seem to have a life of their own is a little spooky. But not as spooky as your background music 😁

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 місяці тому

      So true. And yeah, the background music is Ligeti...creepy stuff to be sure. I'm really glad for Tholey and his super-creative ideas to study.

  • @ldn-Riscosa
    @ldn-Riscosa 7 місяців тому +1

    I have only had one lucid dream which happened naturally. I was having a dream that was so life like that I did not realise I was in a dream. I had only realised that I was in a dream when something happened which defy reality. My first instinct was to fly realising that I was in full control of my dream unfortunately I panicked I thought I might have been dead which led me to force myself to wake. I have never had another one would really love to do it again. Ever since I have been intrigued about astral projection.

  • @WoodsyReview
    @WoodsyReview 2 роки тому +3

    Great video 🔥

  • @Sweetsurrender444
    @Sweetsurrender444 9 днів тому +1

    Omg another one - a guy told me exactly which drug my son needed for his skin condition to clear up - and it wasn’t one any doctors had suggested so I told the doctor the drug name and they tried it and it worked he also asked where I got this drug name I said from my dream

  • @jesuisravi
    @jesuisravi 4 місяці тому +1

    I've had a lot of lucid dreams, well over a hundred of them. I have found that every dream character, when you started trying to meaningfully interact with them, pretty much ceased to function. They went mute. They were all one trick ponies who, when pressed, couldn't even repeat their one trick.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  4 місяці тому

      That is definitely fascinating! I wonder what's up with that?

    • @jesuisravi
      @jesuisravi 4 місяці тому +1

      @@theimaginarium I don't know but MHO is that there are at least two kinds of dreams: 1) Most dreams and that includes most lucid dreams are artifacts of the dreaming persons subconscious. The subconscious extremely limited in what it can do in the way of dreams: It can put up characters of a sort but they can't do much and can't even stay stable for a split second. They are changing in every dimension, that is in color, in size, in shape, in sex, etc.. @) The other type of dream is very rare and is produced by the "overmind" . These are the sort of dream that Jung seems to have had from time to time. Characters here are stable and exist "from their own side".

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  4 місяці тому

      @@jesuisravi Yes, Jung differentiated between everyday dreams and "big" dreams, which were more from the collective unconscious.

  • @caughtmeontheflip
    @caughtmeontheflip Рік тому +1

    this background music is so eerie

  • @narayupita
    @narayupita 9 місяців тому +1

    I met my dead boss in my dream, and he took me for a ride to the city. We stopped at the mall basement where I met my friends there
    While my dead bos smoking and spoke randomly, I whispered to one of my friend, "Does he know that he's already dead?" When I said that, I was going to tell my boss that he died in real life. Then my friend replied, "I know, buy don't you dare say that to him."
    Then I woke up... I wonder what would happen if I said my dead boss that he's dead. 😅

  • @natibello5840
    @natibello5840 Рік тому +5

    Hello The Imaginarium! See I’m no expert and in fact I'm just a regular old person who randomly thought about this one night. (So sorry if I seem a bit dumb trying to talk about this haha.) One thing I am though is very creative and open minded. I started researching this topic to see if it was even talked about and to my surprise it is! But after lots of research for a couple of days I found not much new information on this topic so I decided to come up with my own theory as to how dream characters appear to be conscious and thought It would be cool to share :)! Here is my theory: It’s your subconscious mind. Your subconscious mind is a very powerful thing, one thing it does is control your breathing. But while you're breathing you can become aware of it and sometimes break this pattern of constant breathing. So lets say dream characters were made by your subconscious mind, then becoming aware of them such as lucid dreaming, you should be able to “break these characters” right? No. But! Your subconscious mind also controls things like digestion, and you can’t control that by becoming aware of it, (that would be cool though!) So now let's say dream characters are still from your subconscious mind but they are less like breathing and more like digesting. That would mean dream characters are extremely important, and it's even more important to not be able to mess with them. But why? Maybe because if we could “break them” it could mess up the way we perceive people. We see people as individuals with their own thoughts and feelings. But if we could somehow think the thoughts and feel the feelings of our dream characters it would be how WE perceive that person. It couldn’t be their actual thoughts or feelings because we couldn’t possibly know that. Maybe our subconscious mind is keeping us from knowing more? I really want to figure this out and will keep thinking. I want to know what your thoughts are on my theory? Also this is an amazing video! It helped me a lot to understand this topic! Thank you :)!

  • @Sweetsurrender444
    @Sweetsurrender444 9 днів тому +1

    I had a man in my dreams try steal stuff from our dream to bring back to this reality I had to tell him he couldn’t he was so upset lol I took him flying poor guy

  • @tommyjames9248
    @tommyjames9248 2 місяці тому +1

    Those dream characters are essentially your subconscious so when you think about it its not all that surprising they know a dream is acurring before the dreamer does. What interests me is how they remember past dreams and seem to have unique personalities. I was once speaking with a dream character and i asked how many lucid dreams ive had and he told me ive had many more than i even realize because ive achieved lucidity in dreams that i forgot having when i woke up. Very interesting how he knew that. I also asked once if they were self aware, if i remember correctly my dream characters got very scared by the question and started freaking out screaming. Ive also encountered a dream character that was unlike any other ive ever experienced. I had no influence on him and he was actively preventing me from waking up, he also knew we were in a dream. This dream character was truly unlike any other, he attacked me and we flew around battling each other with all the possibilities of my imagination. Thinking about it, it really seems like he was coaching me or testing me.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 місяці тому

      Fascinating!

    • @tommyjames9248
      @tommyjames9248 2 місяці тому

      @theimaginarium everything about lucid dreaming is fascinating. If you were to tell someone that has never heard of lucid dreaming about it they would probably think you were making stuff up or talking about psychic abilities. Which, if you think about it, is exactly what lucid dreaming is. It's an inate ability our brains have.

  • @loosecIit
    @loosecIit 3 місяці тому +2

    Dude they are stupid with conciousness that do everything in their way that actually works no matter what they want, u can talk to them about anything and they will come with a response, but the way they are created is by your perception about people, people around u, ur wife, ur kids, how u see them as in real life can have impact on how they respond in your dreams, as if they really were going to say the same in real life. It’s crazy how we pick all that just from observing one another

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 місяці тому +1

      Love it! I definitely agree with you. It's logic. If the psyche can generate my consciousness, why can it not generate more than one?

    • @loosecIit
      @loosecIit 2 місяці тому +1

      @@theimaginariumdefinetly subbed dude ur videos rock

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 місяці тому

      @@loosecIit Thanks!!

  • @SpirituallyAlignedInfinte
    @SpirituallyAlignedInfinte 4 місяці тому +3

    Hey Dr,
    I keep dreaming of this guy 150 times in 7 months recurring nonstop. I only met him once, and then I dreamed of our second encounter in the physical realm like a precognitive.
    This is what confuses me, he’s a pastor in this physical realm. I’ve had so many recurring dreams of him preaching and I attending church services with him. I can’t possibly imagine the architecture of those churches & the vivid church robes in my subconscious mind.
    I kept dreaming of schools, buses & him being a teacher. He recently confirmed that he was indeed a teacher and had just retired.
    I sometimes find myself telling him in my dream that I dreamed of him often. He speaks sometimes in the dreams but we majority exchange eye contact and just energy, like feelings of his actual soul presence he had in the physical, same energy feeling.
    I have come to fall in love with this dream character. I have dreamed up a son with him and he appeared 50 times.
    What’s your opinion?

    • @Degjoy
      @Degjoy 2 місяці тому

      I agree- the intricacies in these lucid dreams are astonishing. I have even felt texture (on a carpet in a dream)

  • @madelinecalderon375
    @madelinecalderon375 Рік тому +1

    Sounds like clairvoyant dreams/visions. I won’t possibly know about the information given to me in a dream, until something or someone happens at any point in the near or far future that makes it all make sense…. Get these dreams all the time. Like visions of the future..

    • @madelinecalderon375
      @madelinecalderon375 Рік тому +1

      I’ve had so many dreams of ppl speaking to me, warning me, showing me things I was being lied to about and showing me things I needed to know. Meeting new ppl in my dreams and then in real life, ppl telling me vital information I sometimes forget, even once given very life changing knowledge about life and death and accepting death. It was crazy.

  • @iwasneverhere9189
    @iwasneverhere9189 Рік тому +3

    Are they conscious? I had a dream character once tell me the dream is reality, reality is the dream. Are they real? I was Lucid, I went to pick up a woman dream character by her waist, I was moving her off a chair onto the floor. I know it was a dream, but I felt her pelvic bones through her skin, and she said that pinches, let me down. That's what freaked me the F out. I started thinking, how real is all of this?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому +1

      It can get really spooky, can't it??

    • @TotoJoy03
      @TotoJoy03 Рік тому +1

      Dream character believe there world is real they don’t like when you confront them too much they will dis appear they are made of white mist..

  • @Sweetsurrender444
    @Sweetsurrender444 9 днів тому +1

    I also had a very pretty girl ask me if I come from a place where sickness still exists ? She looked perfect and I was touching the skin on her arm I think she could see my lower vibrations coz hers were high high high

  • @BM-tx2ph
    @BM-tx2ph Рік тому +3

    It's an angel.
    It's not your subconscious
    Some stuff is a subconscious
    But it's spirits on the other side
    Wheter evil or good
    Those are demons entertaining you and talking to you in your sleep.
    A definite proof of God

  • @tomkipkurui8010
    @tomkipkurui8010 Місяць тому

    Very spooky, is there a community I can join to here more on the subject?

  • @SeurogerioBr
    @SeurogerioBr Рік тому

    It is a very interesting subject.
    In recently having very strange dreams.
    It's our mind able to receive stimulations from other inter dimensional beings while sleeping?

  • @MarkSegree
    @MarkSegree 11 місяців тому +1

    I remember bits and pieces of all my dreams, i have come to the conclusion that they are all real and probably most likely dreams are plains collectively created hense why sometimes you are given information about future events. If you spoke to someone before he put forth an idea to the world, you would have prior knowledge.

  • @krepostV
    @krepostV Рік тому +4

    our brains are probably just really good at making us believe things that arent real or true, think about how good some people are at lying

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому +1

      Why do you think our brains would do that?

    • @krepostV
      @krepostV Рік тому +2

      @@theimaginarium no clue but its fascinating

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  Рік тому

      @@krepostV fair enough!

  • @Salarsrh
    @Salarsrh 8 місяців тому

    When they say something important I always forget what they said I lucid dream most of the time recently

  • @NotScotus
    @NotScotus 3 роки тому +6

    Are there studies similar to Tholeys? I’m finding it hard to find anything of dream characters from academics. Thanks in advance!

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  3 роки тому

      Tholey's seems to be the only one. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find anything like it. He has done several other studies that are pretty interesting. I talk about several of them in my book Understanding Dreams: www.amazon.com/Understanding-Dreams-Other-Spontaneous-Images-ebook/dp/B07D195TDL/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=erik+goodwyn&qid=1606316596&sr=8-2

  • @TheGiu77
    @TheGiu77 2 місяці тому +1

    Uma mulher hipnotizada aceitou a sugestão de falar uma língua alienígena. E ela falou. Na mente dela estava falando uma língua alienígena.
    Os sonhos são como transe hipnóticos.
    Mesmo o sonho sendo lúcido, vc está tendo alucinações auditivas e visuais e confrontos com seu subconsciente, ou seja, não será totalmente lúcido.
    Temos uma grande pasta de arquivos na nossa memória. Além disso nosso cérebro gosta de costurar memórias verdadeiras com falsas. Informações para a sobrevivência também as compõem.
    Tudo isso é matéria prima para cenários e personagens dentro do sonho.
    Todos os personagens dentro do sonho, são nós mesmos.
    Eu pratico sonho lúcido. Sei como é fazer perguntas.
    Quem já falou no telefone em sonhos, sabe q ninguém responde do outro lado.
    Nossa consciência é um sentinela que conspira para nos manter vivos. Nos faz ter intuição e sonhos.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 місяці тому

      This looks like it oculd be an interesting comment, unfortunately I'm not familiar with this language!

  • @chintamanivivek
    @chintamanivivek 2 роки тому +2

    Dream characters are a reflection of your own mind. The complexity with which a dream character would respond, is limited to the conditionings of your own mind. A 10point dream character might talk to you, but if a dreamer is conditioned with a mind of 3points, the perception will be only to that extent.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому +5

      Vivek, what do you mean by "3 points" or "10 points"? Also, the unconscious creates not only dream characters but also the conscious ego. So, it's difficult to talk about "your own mind" in this case, since it's not clear who the "you" is.

    • @johnpayne5590
      @johnpayne5590 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@theimaginarium My guy's thinking the mind has stats like a video game

  • @Meloxblxy
    @Meloxblxy Рік тому +1

    I have a theory that when we lucid dream we enter a different universe or A universe our brain Creates including actual conscious beings

  • @bolengnamane7379
    @bolengnamane7379 4 місяці тому +1

    I asked Ross Barkley To Join Man United, I hope they see his value at the club..

  • @chrisfrisby13
    @chrisfrisby13 2 місяці тому +1

    Or are some of them thought forms that have not been given enough energy to exist in this dimension, yet, so they exist in another until us little gods think them into existence here. I do also believe there is the remembering of other lives we have lived as well going on in dreams so the characters could be from that as well.

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 місяці тому +1

      There are many intriguing possibilities, aren't there?

  • @basedgod5778
    @basedgod5778 Рік тому

    Ive had a reappearing shadow figure in my dreams since I was 11 or younger and the atmosphere feels the same everytime super dark, fuzzy, always night. And usually I get sleep paralysis the same night real strange

  • @brianstrauch8574
    @brianstrauch8574 Рік тому +2

    Ohhhhh I can't sleep now

  • @AOD92
    @AOD92 Рік тому

    Why is it when I dream i can see the faces of people & the female I'm having a good time with. But when I wake I can only remember the people & not the female I was with. Trying to remember her face is a pain to visualize.

  • @michaelwilson3343
    @michaelwilson3343 2 роки тому +3

    i talk to them in my dreams one even told me he has 1 child a boy.

  • @mvcarter679
    @mvcarter679 2 роки тому +2

    So.what if u sleep.walk? And sleep eat?

    • @theimaginarium
      @theimaginarium  2 роки тому

      Those are parasomnias--usually they involve people acting out what is going on in their dreams because of a malfunction in the normal inhibition of motor activity that occurs before we go into a dream.