Billy Eckstine, I think it was, once told in an interview: "In those days, people always danced to our music. It was dance music." It also applied to the small bebop combos. It probably lasted until the late 40'ies.
I think jazz lost something important when the musicians started to get snobby and say they didn't want anybody dancing to their music. That's where it all came from, man!
It may have lost it's dance appeal but in turn, it gained a complexity, stimulation and spirituality where musicians would actually enjoy playing everytime as opposed playing the same old swing songs the same way everytime. Bebop was musician's music.
Jazzkeyboardist, I don't understand your saying that Keith Jarret "hates coughing" when he made so many ANNOYING groans and grunts on many of his records. Contradiction?
Hey yes it is the Do as I say and not as I do... Donald Trump loved wiki leaks but hates his own people taking a leak.. I still own about ten of keith's records but I will not listen to him anymore because he is a little bitch..lol
Clarke wrote a series of exercises for himself to develop the independence of the bass drum and snare drum, while maintaining the time on the ride cymbal. One of these passages, a combination of a rim shot on the snare followed directly by a bass drum accent, earned Clarke his nickname, "Klook", which was short for "Klook-mop", in imitation of the sound this combination produced. This nickname was enshrined in "Oop Bop Sh'Bam," recorded by Dizzy Gillespie in 1946 with Clarke on drums, where the scat lyric to the bebop tune goes "oop bop sh'bam a klook a mop."
No, I don't. They were great musicians. Dizzy, in particular, did not use ANY drugs. Besides, Charlie wasn't big at that time. It was mainly liquor and, in some cases, smack back then.
they look a little stupid dancing like that, i mean it was a little "necessary" to demonstrate that bebop can be danced but not that way! they are being superficial with the noise.
Well that's an interesting point of view. But why not think about it in a different way. They guys playing, loved to play and the guys dancing loved to dance, so they both got together to present the world with this tremendous piece of art. I think they were more interested in enjoying their humanity and betting their happiness and joyfulness into bebop and music in general as opposed to the misery humanity is used to these days:)
What other suitable ways could they have done this so nobody would feel offended or that it wasn't "mainstream". Humanity has to learn to shut up cause all they talk about and all they judge from is from memory and we are prisoners of our memories, if we are gonma suffer for personal stuff that happened 10 years ago, at least lets not suffer for art that involved the work of other wonderful and joyful human beings:) let's us shut up and enjoy things as they are:) cause in the end nor your tipping nor my tipping are gonna change the world. These guys at least did change theirs and others :)
I totally agree. They weren't dancing in the late night sessions at Minton's where Bird, Diz, Monk, and Charlie Christian formed bop after they got out of work at night in the more "conventional" bands they played in. But by 1945-46 the powers-that-be in the music business (who were the ones responsible for making "swing" widely popular a decade earlier) saw that there was obviously something "new" going on among here-to-fore "working" musicians, so as businessmen out to make a buck they needed to find a way to sell it, like anything else. It's not widely known but Bop was given a tremendous build-up by the music business during 1946 and especially 1947 after a lot of the most important big bands broke up at the end of 1946, because there were just too many economic factors working against bandleaders by then and the cost of paying 15 musicians on salary every week just couldn't be sustained any more. The best musicians were getting restless too but after a year of trying to make bop sell-able and two strikes called by the musicians union that effectively banned 95% of working musicians from recording from 1942-44 and 1947-48, "the business" had enough with dealing with "the Union". People now are generally totally ignorant about how strong and important the musicians' union was back then, everywhere. In any event, "the business" looked elsewhere for raw, exploitable talent. They would market watered-down "inoffensive" vanilla pop music that they knew people would buy in large numbers. Novelty and corn were never hard to sell to the vast majority of non-musician Americans. Pop singers were given top billing throughout the record and entertainment business and small R&B acts were easily more sell-able and far less expensive to maintain, (- there wasn't a designated "leader" who didn't have to pay 15 musicians, an arranger, a band singer (if not two) and a music copyist who turned the arrangers' scores into working sets of parts read by each of the musicians on their music stands). The biggest names wouldn't go away; they were the "elder statesmen" by 1948. But he glory days for the young and restless musicians in their footsteps were over. A lot of young musicians didn't want to be "entertainers" any more and jazz was gone from being a marketable mass commodity for two reasons: "the business" found out the new music wasn't commercial enough sell vast quantities of the complicated music and a lot of the musicians that played "modern" jazz had no interest in "selling out" anyway. And nothing on either side has changed since then.
This footage helps me to appreciate these artists when they were young and the impact they have on the music industry.
Dizzy was just too cool for words! His band had so many greats in it!!
Saw him live at North Sea jazz 1980 or so wonderful❤
Dizzy Is Phenomenal Genius and So Handsome He looks Beautiful 😍
early jazz was so much fun.
This is modern jazz
@@guidemeChrist Miles Davis said that he HATED the term of Jazz Music.
ATMABRAHM Henry Ford called jazz music evil!!!!!!
I don’t understand how some people actually hit dislike over this.
They're tone deaf.
They're not musicians
They were told by someone to listen to this and we’re insulted because they listen to Cardi b and rap
Dizzy great dancer too, complete artist. The trumpet is again straight, not crooked !
till 1950s
1:40 Dizzy twerking haha
Hahahahaha So true!!
0:54 look at the drummer flip his stick
Brought back memories of the shows at the old Tivoly.
Billy Eckstine, I think it was, once told in an interview: "In those days, people always danced to our music. It was dance music." It also applied to the small bebop combos. It probably lasted until the late 40'ies.
love Dizzy's moves, especially 38 secs in after klook drops them bombs!
@TheDocRitchie ...That was Joe Harris on drums.
Pure genius. I have a recording of a different version. Out of this world!
I think it was more fun back then than it is now!
Great stuff! Thanks for keeping those artistic dreams alive!
Love that... about 4:30 a combo of a Duck Walk / Moon Walk
this is a treasure, especially the dance footage!
Tenor Madness or possibly Dizzy Gillespie’s “Oo Bop Shabam”.
This music really swings, makes you want move!!!
I love my culture❤
Classic!!!
Outstanding!
2/8/2020
My birthday😂💯
that was amazing and so much fun
YESSIR!!!!! Feel it, feel it!!!! Come on Diz!
This is amazing!
This is the best thing ever
Some crazy steppin'
Brilliant!
100% solid gold entertainment!
24 carat even. Whatever. This stuff is a joy.
great stuff.
oo bop sh bam a klook a mop
I'm n be bop heaven!!!
Majorly Epic
1947 .......
Who's that on the vibes during the dance number?
Dizzy GILLESPIE "Oop Bop Sh' Bam" !!!
Milt Jackson.
Is that Max Roach back there?
I knew this genius before1970?
Which year is that? Who was the member of the big band (the soloists, rhythm section)?
Merci JUSTAS via Dizzy Gillespie e & amis musiciens 🎼🎸🎹💖🥁✿¸.•'**☆ ╰⊰✿💖♪
Who were the tap dancers?
You can clearly see Dizzy's influence on Ropy Hargrove in these videos.
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Dizzy does it better than Billy Eckstein's version.
💃 💃
EVERYONES TALKIN BOUT BUGSNAX
I think jazz lost something important when the musicians started to get snobby and say they didn't want anybody dancing to their music. That's where it all came from, man!
It may have lost it's dance appeal but in turn, it gained a complexity, stimulation and spirituality where musicians would actually enjoy playing everytime as opposed playing the same old swing songs the same way everytime. Bebop was musician's music.
@@BopWalk Yes
If those dancers had been around doing their thing, Michael Jackson would have been out of business.
GCRAV MJ would have never gotten in the business in the first place if he was around in this era.
Came here because of Marno
Andy Wasserman taught me this song.
he did well in doing so.
Is this 1947 ?
Concours d’orleans
cool, Pat Metheny and Keith Jarret could not play in this band because Diz would distract them too much.. Keith really hates coughing too
Jazzkeyboardist, I don't understand your saying that Keith Jarret "hates coughing" when he made so many ANNOYING groans and grunts on many of his records. Contradiction?
Hey yes it is the Do as I say and not as I do... Donald Trump loved wiki leaks but hates his own people taking a leak.. I still own about ten of keith's records but I will not listen to him anymore because he is a little bitch..lol
That's Milton Hinton on the vibes
Christopher Redwood Milt Jackson. Milt Hinton was a bass player.
No, that was Milton Jackson on vibes.
Ah Google bop
ugh it skips during the best dance part
Whats he sayin afterOo bop sh bam ?
Clarke wrote a series of exercises for himself to develop the independence of the bass drum and snare drum, while maintaining the time on the ride cymbal. One of these passages, a combination of a rim shot on the snare followed directly by a bass drum accent, earned Clarke his nickname, "Klook", which was short for "Klook-mop", in imitation of the sound this combination produced. This nickname was enshrined in "Oop Bop Sh'Bam," recorded by Dizzy Gillespie in 1946 with Clarke on drums, where the scat lyric to the bebop tune goes "oop bop sh'bam a klook a mop."
It is a bop pop ;)
A klook a mop
@@irenewood9569 Thanks !!!
@@axisboldaslove5726 Fascinating Thanks !!!!
You want to be in google maps
too hip for the room
Fred Astaire could not touch these guys in his prime.
Fred Astaire wasn't a *musician*.
@@bblegacy I was talking about the dancers
This big band was Dizzy's attempt to convince audience's that Bebop music was danceable. Sadly, he failed though.
good one but it was the audience who failed.. talented people can dance to silence
sing in all the be-bop joints in NYC.. " NO DANCING"...
do you get the feeling that cocaine might have been the drug of choice for these cats ?
No, I don't. They were great musicians. Dizzy, in particular, did not use ANY drugs. Besides, Charlie wasn't big at that time. It was mainly liquor and, in some cases, smack back then.
@@jeanhodgson8623 yes sadly mostly smack...my dad was a musician n thankfully didnt use but many of his friends n bandmates did
40's Over Counter Drug store 'x Benzedrine Inhalers. Crack open tube remove strip.. Drop into drink..
incredible dancing but the worst camera man in history.
they look a little stupid dancing like that, i mean it was a little "necessary" to demonstrate that bebop can be danced but not that way! they are being superficial with the noise.
Well that's an interesting point of view. But why not think about it in a different way. They guys playing, loved to play and the guys dancing loved to dance, so they both got together to present the world with this tremendous piece of art. I think they were more interested in enjoying their humanity and betting their happiness and joyfulness into bebop and music in general as opposed to the misery humanity is used to these days:)
What other suitable ways could they have done this so nobody would feel offended or that it wasn't "mainstream". Humanity has to learn to shut up cause all they talk about and all they judge from is from memory and we are prisoners of our memories, if we are gonma suffer for personal stuff that happened 10 years ago, at least lets not suffer for art that involved the work of other wonderful and joyful human beings:) let's us shut up and enjoy things as they are:) cause in the end nor your tipping nor my tipping are gonna change the world. These guys at least did change theirs and others :)
@@usmc1875 oh thank you for writing all those words I felt in my heart, John. You are the best.
I totally agree. They weren't dancing in the late night sessions at Minton's where Bird, Diz, Monk, and Charlie Christian formed bop after they got out of work at night in the more "conventional" bands they played in. But by 1945-46 the powers-that-be in the music business (who were the ones responsible for making "swing" widely popular a decade earlier) saw that there was obviously something "new" going on among here-to-fore "working" musicians, so as businessmen out to make a buck they needed to find a way to sell it, like anything else.
It's not widely known but Bop was given a tremendous build-up by the music business during 1946 and especially 1947 after a lot of the most important big bands broke up at the end of 1946, because there were just too many economic factors working against bandleaders by then and the cost of paying 15 musicians on salary every week just couldn't be sustained any more. The best musicians were getting restless too but after a year of trying to make bop sell-able and two strikes called by the musicians union that effectively banned 95% of working musicians from recording from 1942-44 and 1947-48, "the business" had enough with dealing with "the Union". People now are generally totally ignorant about how strong and important the musicians' union was back then, everywhere. In any event, "the business" looked elsewhere for raw, exploitable talent. They would market watered-down "inoffensive" vanilla pop music that they knew people would buy in large numbers. Novelty and corn were never hard to sell to the vast majority of non-musician Americans. Pop singers were given top billing throughout the record and entertainment business and small R&B acts were easily more sell-able and far less expensive to maintain, (- there wasn't a designated "leader" who didn't have to pay 15 musicians, an arranger, a band singer (if not two) and a music copyist who turned the arrangers' scores into working sets of parts read by each of the musicians on their music stands). The biggest names wouldn't go away; they were the "elder statesmen" by 1948. But he glory days for the young and restless musicians in their footsteps were over. A lot of young musicians didn't want to be "entertainers" any more and jazz was gone from being a marketable mass commodity for two reasons: "the business" found out the new music wasn't commercial enough sell vast quantities of the complicated music and a lot of the musicians that played "modern" jazz had no interest in "selling out" anyway. And nothing on either side has changed since then.