Primordial Front Row POV | Lagoon's Immersive New for 2023 Roller Coaster
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Lagoon at long last has opened up their highly anticipated roller coaster/dark ride hybrid, Primordial! This highly themed family coaster sends riders deep into the Mountain to battle monsters and save the kingdom- before its too late! They'll go forwards, backwards, sideways, and experience a drop like we've never seen before!
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You can tell this was a passion project for them. Truly outstanding for an independent park like this to produce a themed ride of this caliber.
If you look at some European Parks you can see that independent parks can theme rides really well-
Not saying this is a bad ride.
Agreee I rode it and it has a pre show to like dysney
The fact that this was all built IN HOUSE by lagoon is just amazing to me, such an epic ride and definitely an amazing fit for lagoon.
Crazy how a smaller park can do this, yet cedar fair and six Flags can barely theme a station
Both park chains should take notes
Mmm, Exposed scaffolding. 🤤🤤
Emperor at SeaWorld San Diego crying without a station
Haven’t they been building this for the better part of a decade? Public companies like cedar fair and Six Flags could never do this for their parks, because it would be hard to explain to their stockholders and could affect their quarterly reports.
and seaworld cant even build a station
Just so people know, this ride has 6 possible endings so you need to ride more then once
I believe there is 2 different tracks, but the final element is taken differently
@@SeaWorldOrlandoandmore on RCDB, it lists a vertical drop track and a slide drop, so I think that’s what you were referring to
There can be a forwards or backwards version of what you just see in this pov or a drop track. You can wait her get dragon or owl ending and both sides are capable of all 6 endings
@@CoasterObsessed yea from my knowledge it’s like a slide-drop track where it sort of tilts you while dropping you. I had no idea there was 6 possible for each endingz
@@SeaWorldOrlandoandmoreyes you can get the slide track forward or backwards that’s what they are talking about
Just to refresh everyone’s memory: Lagoon built this entire attraction in house!!!
Huge props to the engineering team for doing an amazing job!
They did not build it entirely in house, they had a bunch of contractors. I believe ART engineering did the track, and Triotech did the shooting system and general AV. I think the park does the design work and some of the non-manufacturing processes
@@Bob-w2b8jthey built it entirely in house meaning it is THEIR ride, it's not a cookie cutter by a developer and manufacturer.
Their plans, designs, and as they don't have a metal fab, concrete team etc etc etc, they contracted that all out.
Still done in house as it's 1 of 1
@@jacehiggs3637 ah I gotcha. Yeah this park definitely seems unique in that respect, or at least outside of Disney and Universal parks
@@Bob-w2b8j imo it's because they can't afford the big names and developers. The park itself is only 95 acres, Utah only has 3.4 million people and for most people isn't a tourist destination outside of winter skiing.
They do really well with what they have
It's not built in-house. It was DESIGNED in-house but definitely not built or manufactured in house. The manufacturer is ART Engineering.
Primordial is honestly such an amazing ride, and I don’t understand the minority of people out there who tend to hate this ride. There’s nothing to even hate about this ride! It’s a very unique, one of a kind, and definitely a great fit for lagoon. Even though it took a long time to build, I highly appreciate all of the hard work, time and effort that lagoon put into this coaster to have it turn out to be this impressive. Is it the best coaster in the park? No but it’s still the second best coaster in the park and just right below cannibal, but it is definitely the best themed ride/coaster.
The first time I rode this, I was super sleep deprived, and had been waiting in line doing nothing for two hours since the ride temporarily broke. So everything felt like a dream and so magical, and the whole time I was just kinda out of it until the drop at the end.
So I’m hearing you’ve gotta be half asleep to enjoy the ride, just rode it, and sure it’s impressive they pulled it off but from the stance of actually being an amusement park ride? Kinda lame
Let people hate on it, the fact a park of this size can build it THEMSELVES is just incredible. This looks better and more technically advanced than a lot of coasters at six flags/cedar fair parks. Well done Lagoon and I hope I can ride it sometime soon!
There's nothing to hate. It's really cool for what it is. No one thought it'd be an indoor Intamin Blitz or something silly like that. It's a great family thrill attraction.
And they built it in house with just a little help
They did NOT build it in-house. Don't believe those lies Lagoon tells you they designed it, that doesn't mean they manufacturerd it. They spent nearly $100 million for other manufacturers to come in and do it for them.
@@Conman19 They did build it in house
Hate all you want. Everyone coming off of it had Disney/ Universal like for it. It's that good.
Amazing ride. They should just cover up the construction stuff at the beginning of the dark ride part. Even if it is just some black blankets.
For an independent park this is really impressive. Honestly could pass at bigger chain parks too. I wonder if this will set any standard for smaller parks to try this in the future although it’s a monumental undertaking
Lost island 4d was amazing top of the line...yes
@@billchief397lost islands ride Volkanu is impressive yes. It’s a sally dark ride attraction that while unique is also sometime sally dark rides is very familiar with. This project took a lot of different pieces and adds more intertwining aspects which makes it more impressive (shooting dark ride, coaster, moving track pieces, screens and practical effects, etc.) which to me is more impressive
@Jshmoney24 very true
What a cool ride! It never crossed my mind that you could cross a shooting ride with a roller coaster, but it absolutely works here!
I hate to see people trash on this ride, it’s truly amazing. I got to ride it almost 20 times before opening from working there and got all 8 endings. I was also there on Saturday and got the same ending that was on that POV.
Could more thematic elements maybe still come eventually?
@@brecksouvall5998 I also work there and test rode the week leading up to opening. There might be a chance they'll add more. But compared to a lot of the other rides, this is pretty heavy theming, so I wouldn't hold my breath for much more.
Really appreciate you replying , could more effects or theming inside be possible?
@allisk801
Same, I also hate seeing hate from people about primordial, small minded idiots. Primordial is the coolest roller coaster I’ve ever seen
Reminds me of Wonder mountain’s guardian. Like a lot. The spinning cars, fantasy theme, dragon-caused drop track into the score area, it seems like a better ride than wmg too.
WMG is basically a dark ride. It would be one if it weren’t for the small turn off the lift.
Yeah WMGx100. NOT even close to the same ride.
that's actually the ride that inspired this, from what one of the ops told me, the owners took a trip to Canada and rode something and got inspiration for Primordial, which had to have been Guardian, that said though, it really is a one of a kind experience, that backwards helix and slide track are just something you have to experience for yourself
It is really similar to WMG but more coaster aspect, the cars are 4 across with opening in the middle and 2 cars per train vs 2 forward and backward per car.
Also, (having not been to WMG myself) doesn't that only have a drop track element, and 1 at that?¿?
Primordial has a split track for the ending, 1 side seen here is a slide track, the other track option is a vertical drop like WMG. Lastly the slide track element can be ridden (randomly) facing down the slide or backwards down it.
It's done up way better, WMGx100 as another said, because of all this and much higher rider per hour as the drop or slide resets, another train is coming down the other track keeping the que flowing.
Oh and lastly, not seen here and I haven't seen it on any other video of other coaster rides.
The station is always moving, has a conveyor belt next to the track, the cars rotate to face it and you get in as the trains are still moving through the station. This helps with the loading and unloading to again help the que stay moving.
I’m a Floridian living in Utah and when I tell you I’ve rode all immersive roller coasters in that state at all of the theme parks and this is something straight out of Universal. So creative and well built. 10/10
Million dollar question: was the long and painful wait worth it?
And it's a pretty simple answer. Yes. If they had opened it earlier it would be unfinished
Having gone in it yesterday myself, it's so good, I wish I could have gone in it more but it valleyed so I only got three rides on it
@@beowolf9480it's already valleyed after 5 years of construction? Geeze, that's bad. Hopefully it's a quick fix issue like adding some booster wheels or something similar
Yes it is absolutely worth the wait
@@Bob-w2b8j it is on the ops, the first helix is pretty steep so they'll normally put sandbags on to get it more speed, but they didn't that day, so that's what ended up happening
Primordial is at my home park. It was worth the wait and it exceeded my expectations.
What Primordial has:
- Shooting dark ride elements like WMG.
- Disney and Universal grade effects and presentation.
- A story and characters I didn't expect that exceeded my expectations.
- A pre-show in the quene complete with an animatronic.
- Roller coaster elements that have more force than they look.
- A backwards section that will catch you off guard.
- A finale with wrap around screens and a ramp-like drop track.
- 6 different endings.
Glad to see you ride it and enjoy it. Also good score on the ride. Shooting the shields helps your score.
Edit: 8 endings 😊
Lagoon is my home park too and I love it so much. This ride was more than worth the wait!
I'm so impressed by this. Well done Lagoon and ART Engineering! How does this compare to the park's other rides? Is it one of the best?
Best ride there roller coaster wise is another in house development of theirs. Cannibal, go look it up. Awesome ride.
Another in house they have is Wicked, which again is a great one as well.
@@jacehiggs3637 Wicked isn't in house, it's a Zierer. Bombora is, as it was basically the proof of concept for in house manufacturing before they did Cannibal.
@allisk8001 they had zierer manufacture it and ship the parts over. They designed the ride (perhaps loosely as there is another ride like wicked) so obviously they didn't copy right it. But we don't know the inner workings that perhaps zierer said we won't do a 1 off and lagoon gave them rights. None of us know the absolute details, but living next to the guy who designed bombora, cannibal and primordial, he's said enough to me to know you're wrong on wicked being strictly zierer
I love lagoon!!
Wonder mountains guardian but GOOD
My thoughts exactly!
I'm guessing they'll theme the indoor section with steel supports at some point
Hopefully they will
They were rushing for a brief late 2023 opening. I'm sure there's much unfinished business.
First also for some reason this reminds me of lost coaster of superstition mountain
In some sense it does, but most people will compare this to Wonder Mountain Guardian
Got to watch this thing being built from start to finish, finally rode it today and it blew my mind
Seems all right. I think more coaster would have been cool but its great seeinf a small park dedicate itself to producing good, complete rides. Good theming, queue, station, ride systems etc
The moment we've all been waiting for
That is really impressive visually, I bet the 3D just made it all the better! Glad we can see this sort of thing outside of the major players! I'm just starting to set up the haunted house for this year, thanks for the quick inspirations.
I wonder if Lagoon would be interested in building coasters for other parks.
Why the hell would a park build coasters for another park
@@PaganiPalthey are so good at building coasters
@@Lanetgm yeah but they’re not a coaster manufacturer, it just wouldn’t make any sense whatsoever
Looks cool.
This is like borderline, Disney and universal level in my opinion. But my one question is after this attraction do they keep the theming up? I love to see them go full-on heavy theming for as much as they possibly can
It was their new ride this year, so only time will tell if the continue the theme vibes with future projects.
The line has an animatronic queen of the castle that tells you the story setup. Then it has you exit through a gift shop. You're back in by the older rides pretty quickly.
I've heard theming isn't even completely finished for Primordial yet. Terroride is good updated theming for a classic ride. Dracula's Castle could really use a full refurb like Terroride did. I do believe they will start going down this theming route for some time, but maybe not go full-blown theming for every ride. Although, their theming even for kiddie rides is pretty cool, anyway.
I noticed the white screen behind the animatronic in the line queue, I'm guessing there will be some video themeing when she explains the dragon and owl, just a guess though.
@@codyhuffman2459 there is.
Reason why six flags magic mountain in California doesn’t have anything like it.. is because you can find similar coasters at universal studios Hollywood or at Disneyland.
Key to getting the most points: Shoot the small blue shields. They give 1000-2000 points each and I have got 7000 points while doing this.
Honestly, all the screens are kinda disappointing and take away from the cool themeing imo, but still, the fact this was built in house makes up for the fact they did something the chain parks are doing on their own which is cool
After you ride it a few times you can start focusing on everything else.
Disappointing???
It’s not disappointing at all, it’s a lot better then I even expected
You’re are not wearing 3D glasses
*DISAPPOINTING?!?!?* you’re kidding right
What a great little coaster, where exactly is the Lagoon park?
Farmington, Utah- north of Salt Lake City
Wow, that looks fantastic!
This is fantastic. It reminds me a bit of what The Lost Island did with their Vulkanu dark ride. But this has some coaster sections. Color me impressed.
Looks pretty awesome
A good coaster can be great a good coaster with a good theme can be legendary
I don’t know about you all, but these people complaining about the ride are not exuding good vibes to me. 🤔
Probably the coolest looking coaster for 2023
In case anyone came here wondering how to get more points, there are about 7 (that I have seen) blue-glowing shields that add about 1,000-2,000 points to your score each. When they're not around, then focus on the bad guys. The pew-pewer also has two triggers, one on front and one on back, i still have yet to find out if they do different things, maybe you can find out for me. And the guy who currently holds the high score has all top 4 positions. You can look at that in the gift shop.
Canada's Wonderland has a ride exactly the same
This ride has two endings which is really cool, there’s the one where you roll forward, like this video shows and there’s another one where you drop straight down! So you can have a different experience when you ride it each time! I totally recommend!
It seems like the end was like Verbolten Busch Gardens in Virginia- where they have a small vertical drop tower type thing
Thats how you compete against major parkchains like cedar and sixflags as a small park. Take smaler projects and adapting the level of immersive of the european parks and you wil win at the family audience
Man, if "The Shed" had this indoor portion as the actual "Shed" I Deadass feel that Mystic Timbers could have been the best coaster ever, no cap." Awesome vid
I just can't spend $100 bucks for entry for one day here. There isn't enough roller coasters or thrilling flat rides to justify that Disney-level admission...Carowinds doesn't even charge 70 bucks, so why the massive hike in entrance fee? It isn't like they pay companies to design and build their rides, they do it all in-house.
Lagoon has no competition- they can get away with charging that much because there's no other option anywhere else around
Then don’t. nobody cares
You know people come from all over the world, especially Asia to come to lagoon? There's obviously a way to justify that price
this is giving harry potter ride vibes
this has 3d btw i would describe it as escape from Gringotts bank with lazer guns
They love the movie Clifford.
This is a total copy of that but with newer technology. I love it
It reminds me of wonder mountains gardian with a slightly longer rollercoaster portion.
Wonder Mountain's Guardian 2.0
What wonder mountain guardian shouldve been 👀👀
I can imagine something like this really good in movie park germany
better than wonder mountain
For all its problems, lagoon has proven the cam build some dang good rides. Cant waut for the next one
Is that the hunger games music during the score board scene at 3:33?
I heard it was a shooting gallery type thing, but did not expect it to be an actual coaster too.
This vid just saved me from ever standing in that line. How many people you think ever ride this video game ride more than once.
I did, it’s amazing
How long is this gonna wait? And a weird question, do we need register anything?
We waited about an hour and a half to ride. We did not have to have a reservation.
Still not worth +$100 a ticket. Over a decade, and this is all you have to show for it? Pretty lackluster design, and not very thrilling. Sad seeing so many people happy with a mediocre ride.
You can spend $60 at any other park, aside from universal/disney, for more thrilling rides with actual queues, and a better park experience.
Lagoon never misses
This is literally just a better wonder mountains guardian at Canadas wonderland
Been on both. This is a 1000x better. The only similarities is roller coaster in a mountain and primordial does way more roller coaster than WMG.
The Drop was the best
That drop at the end is super unexpected!
What day did you film this?
Sunday
Are those screens 3D?
yes
Its like they ran out of money as soon as it went into the mountain. I could see if it had coaster element then shoot at something then back to being a coaster again similar to outside then back to shooting at stuff... they forgot its a coaster after the first drop. I know its one of those you gotta be on it to get it. I would rather have some inversions and make it horror dark without video screens.
Okay I'm getting on that
3:19 is the best part of the coaster
off topic, but why aren't big coaster youtube channels talking about "vidanta world" a big theme park that is being built in Mexico as we speak, and is set to finish in a few months? It's going to be one of my favorite theme parks for me, I love the design a lot...
We plan to visit once it opens! We can’t wait to do a video about it!
When i rode it the narrative kinda felt random and it ended randomly. Not sure if it was worth the hour wait in line.
So this is pretty much wonder mountains guardian, if it didn’t completely fail at being a dark ride and coaster
It failed 0 percent at being a dark ride and coaster, it was a huge success.
@@jamestropicals8262 yeah this does look awesome wonder mountain on the other hand😬
Okay I know there are probably safety regulations and “hold on at all times” but it’s criminal you don’t get to shoot targets at higher speeds. Like imagine going backwards and shooting
so good rode the other day
How do u have 200k when ur videos ain't even 60fps for rollercoasters 💀
Looks straight out of the Nightmare Before Christmas
I hope it’s open in November. I bought a season pass just to go here
It’s closes after October and reopens march if there’s not much snow
Yall suprised. I been goin lagoon for years. Not suprised they cooked with this one
Everyone’s taking about a “park this size” my general curiosity is whether this is a smaller park than phantasialand and other highly themed euro parks. True theme parks obviously make all the money. I don’t get why it’s so hard to get the extra money for a loan that will more likely be paid off due to theming rather than ride intensity or road side attraction status. Enrgylandia seemed to relate but the US seems to be making the same mistakes over and over 🤷🏼♂️
Other than lagoon**
They are a fairly small park. Only like 80 acres in size and pretty well landlocked on all sides with little room for expansion
It's 95 acres. There's an interstate and some other roads right next to it, so not a ton of room to expand unless they buy out other lots and get creative with their setup. Primordial already took half the employee parking (coming from an employee who works at the complete opposite end from the parking lot).
It's not a theme park, it's a general amusement park with a strong family focus and first opened in 1886, before any true theme parks were opened (Theme park being a subcategory of amusement park). So it has a sort of carnival feel to it with the games and such.
@@allisk8001 not to mention a lot of the older rides were literally purchased from traveling carnivals and fairs.
Jet star II, tilt a whirl, space scrambler, flying aces, even collosus the fire dragon!
I weekend warrior for the park, used to work wicked but they moved me to Primordial.
@@jacehiggs3637 Yeah, exactly! People don't realize that, if they really wanted to, Lagoon could pack up and move Colossus pretty quickly.
I work as a merchandise vendor, meaning Lagoon doesn't pay me, a separate company does. There's two stands I alternate between, one in Kiddieland next to the helicopters, and one on the NW corner of Wildmouse, which you would likely pass on the way to Wicked. I don't want to get more specific for internet anonymity's sake.
Do you enjoy working Primordial? I was curious how it determines which ending you get. When I did test rides the week leading into opening, I rode 7 or 8 times and only got the dragon ending once.
This ride is ass
Your kidding right? 💀
Parks really need to do more of these coaster dark rides. The shooting part kinda sucks but i can see very good things by combining dark ride elements to coasters.
Umm, What? YES! Can we get one order for BGW please and thankyou!
I went on this and the wait was 1 hour and 30 min it was worth it
cool
I went on that ride today
It’s more of what WMG should have been in terms of theming
i get Gringotts mixed with minions so hard from this
That ride looks so dumb can’t believe this what they been building all that time
That comment is so dumb I can’t believe this is what you wrote
It was actually made from triotech
Too bad this ride is broken all the time and you are just supposed to stay in line and hope it gets fixed
What a boring ride..
Like you
Where is this coaster located?
Lagoon
Lagoon in Farmington Utah. A bit north of Salt Lake City
Who got the higher score, Taylor or Sarah?
What Darkoster should have been
It’s haaardly a coaster
i disagree it has 2 coaster sections
It's not supposed to be 100% roller coaster--I believe Lagoon--and fans--already know that without the unnecessary observation.
@seanloring6169 advertised it as a coaster. Therefore, it should be a coaster , but it shouldn't be classified as one just because of two coaster sections. It's more of a dark ride than a coaster for sure.
@@Conman19 Nazis, I hate these guys.
Me: Lagoon, work with someone other than ART engineering
Lagoon: Huh? What?
Gonna ride this tomorrow it's gonna be epic.
Idk. Im not impressed. The screen shows something, but i cant tell what the story should be here?
Also, when they enter the first dark part, you see all the contruction....that looks really unprofessional. The lighting could be here and their better too....
But still, i think its a fun ride at the end
The queue has an animatronic that explains the story. Long story short, the riders are knights going to save the dragon/owl at the end. 3D glasses are necessary, and lighting is better in person.
The ride literally just opened. There were a lot of delays, and they advertised the ride for this season very heavily so it had to open this season. Of course there's still superficial construction.
My only complaints were that the fog effects made me nauseous after 7-8 consecutive rides (I was a test rider the week before it opened), and I only got the dragon ending once.
@allisk8001 Could more theming potentially be added inside?
@@brecksouvall5998I hope they add a waterfall next season
@@Lanetgm It will have its waterfall working by next season most likely
Gringotts but as a shooter.
We purchased season passes for several years in a row, each year with the promise that it would be out that year. I get how some people might like it, and one part seemed cool, but other than that it just seemed like a giant video game. I would have expected more with the ridiculous amounts they've been adding to their prices each year.
Looks amazing!
Hopefully this can replace Wonder Mountain's Guardian at Canada's Wonderland - I would approve