I got into remote recording as the audiobook production side of my business began to grow. At the time Audiomovers wasn't fully up to snuff for me (I can't recall why it wouldn't work for me at the time), but Source Connect seemed to be the gold standard that everyone raved about (at least in VO circles). With the new year beginning and my team and I re-evaluating EVERYTHING in order to get better and evolve, it was only natural that i discovered Sessionwire. Are you familiar at all with Source Connect and it's platform of plugins and solutions and if so, how do you feel Audiomovers and Sessionwire measure up? I'm really a creature of habit and from the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' school of thought, but if something can outperform Source Connect, I'd love to know more about it.
Hey Gregory, thanks for your comment. I'm not familiar with Source Connect so I can't really say if Audiomovers or Sessionwire would be a better solution. I'll take a look because while I like both, I think there is still room for these platforms to mature. Thanks for pointing me to the other alternative.
Steve, sorry my friend. I have not watched one of your videos in a good while. To my delight, your content is even better than the last time I was here (and it was already fantastic). You are so much more comfortable on screen. How do you do it? I'm still stiff and can't seem to get comfortable in front of the camera.
After working on the beats of a project in Lagos, Nigeria, I sent the audio files to a studio in Tennesse, USA, and supervised the recording of vocals on the beats yesterday using AudioMovers. The experience was simply miraculous! I am just hearing about sessionwire for the first time though, but I am looking forward to also trying it out.
arent you worried about having to bypass your adda converter ??? Can u keep your n ative audio workflow / signal path out to your local monitors and then buss out to the app with sessionwire as a second audio source by assignment in protools?
+Michael Guy they both function as plugins so everything remains in the digital domain. No recording is happening over the network if that is what you mean. I’m not sure I answered you question.
I’m a film composer and I’ve been trying to decide on a solid program for doing remote scoring sessions with directors that don’t happen to be able to make it into the studio. I was pretty set on Soundwhale for a while, ListenTo was off the table just because of the lack of real time video functionality and Sessionwire’s been a little more enticing now that I know it exists. I may migrate to Sessionwire for the sheer simplicity of using it and not confusing the shit out of my directors
Hi Steve, I am currently analyzing Sessionwire and have found it a little complicated. It works for me but the thought of trying to assist colleagues who are musicians not software techs does not fill me with joy.. How easy is AudioMovers in comparison?
+David Bradbury audiomovers is in fact quite easy. If you want to play something for someone they can paste a link into a browser. If they have to broadcast to you they will need to instantiate the plug-in in the right spot, login and then send a link. It’s less technical.
Hey Steve, great video! We have had some success with Source Connect from Source Elements. They have a pretty sweet collection of software depending on what you want to do. Our use case is language overdubs from around the world. Usually we travel to where the talent is located, or meet in a central hub, but obviously 2020 happened, so Source Connect has been our go to so far. We have done some testing with both Sessionwire and Audiomovers, but a big concern of ours is security. We can't have content going through servers of these companies. So I think that killed Audiomovers for us. We do still have more testing to do! Anyway, thanks for the great video and keep it up! My community is growing too on my channel. Check it out if you have a moment.
I like how honest you are in this presentation ... Thanks ! For songwriting and collaboration I think they are both awesome tools and most likely both will find a home in my bag of tricks ... They are both Peer to Peer secure link which is a plus for licensing and copyright issues ... Also I have become aware that some Studios are employing the use of these great innovative platforms ...
+Martin Frog yes, there are recent updates to both platforms as well. I’m seeing a big improvement in this technology quite quickly. Good for all of us!
Thanks, great info! My current setup is zoom for webcam, chat and video recording. When I need audio quality I switch to audio movers and send the link to my students. Very easy and reliable. Maybe I will try session wire when they add windows support (students are 50/50 Mac/win). Greetings
Source connect standard is great. I do voiceover and when I connect to any studio they recording me in the own daw. Basically I don't need to do anything, just setup my mic level and my script. But Definitely I will try sessionwire and audiomover just in case for future projects. Great video and thanks so much for the tips!
So it's fast enough to do the recording on the other end of the line! That's pretty awesome. How do you feel your connection affects the sound quality if at all? Thanks for telling me about it.
okay I was using sessionlink and sourceconnect for a while after ISDN in europe was stoped. IN ISDN TIME with aptx and mayah we didn´t have any probs. We had a mounted latency under 40 ms . But now there are many probs with voip. But to sessionwire is now my first choice. Very stable and I cnat handle overdub tracking very well. And with a little work around on Pro Tools. I can place the recorded track in sync without a mouse.
+I Maxy yeah, I’ve seen the PCM options. Do you have any experience on how that does with a “home” internet connection? I find even with the compressed audio that sessionwire can start to have issues when going to a larger video window and I have a pretty decent internet service.
@@SteveInTheMix PCM works great even with a Home internet connection, they key is to set latency settings that will match your internet latency, rather than bandwidth. If your internet connection can do at least 10 Mb upload and download, you should be fine with any PCM option if you set latency correctly. Sessionwire is P2P and communicates directly between nodes, Listen to is not P2P so it should work better in more cases.
Another video mentioned looking up the frame rate/lag in zoom settings, then using that number in audiomovers to sync. I've never used audiomovers but might be worth looking up to make it feel more in person
Worth a try but I suspect it might end up being complicated. I expect the signals will drift back and forth. Zoom doesn't seem stable in terms of audio speed. I'd love to know if you find it work though!
So, to be clear, there aren't any latency issues? And if that is the case, can either of these programs be used in unison with streaming apps? ie, Zoom. I realize Zoom is not a pro app for audio and video, however, there are many talented amateurs who are looking ways to gig online, set up shows, etc. Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
+Todd Waddington Productions Each facilitates a stereo stream in one direction or the other in a higher quality audio than zoom does. You can’t “play along” as latency would be a big issue. There is no way for the software to compensate for the length of time it would take to move across the internet. That fluctuates and could be a long time. The upside is that the stream sounds good and is very stable. You’ll notice that zoom speeds up and slows down. Online shows are a different matter and no my specific area of expertise but there is good software for stream broadcast. These aren’t for that. Does that help?
Didn't know about Sessionwire. I accompany dance in real time. The concession has been for me to ignore that the movers are behind. --Maddening. Audiomovers doesn't have video and the instructor has to run the program also - technology is not something many dance instructors want to belabor. Thanks!!
I haven't found any solution that really works in directions in realtime. I'm not sure a consumer internet connection is really up to the task. Maybe in a few years when connections are even faster...
This is so awesome to me !! BEEING FROM CALI BUT now living in the midwest i still have a lot of people out west that need me so I'm diggn this..check me out tho..Herbert sellers on reverb nation.
I’m a producer from Brazil and I’m mentor of piano. Thank you for this video
let's try that ! spent my time here with pleasure and good knowledge ! keep it up 😊
I got into remote recording as the audiobook production side of my business began to grow. At the time Audiomovers wasn't fully up to snuff for me (I can't recall why it wouldn't work for me at the time), but Source Connect seemed to be the gold standard that everyone raved about (at least in VO circles). With the new year beginning and my team and I re-evaluating EVERYTHING in order to get better and evolve, it was only natural that i discovered Sessionwire. Are you familiar at all with Source Connect and it's platform of plugins and solutions and if so, how do you feel Audiomovers and Sessionwire measure up? I'm really a creature of habit and from the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' school of thought, but if something can outperform Source Connect, I'd love to know more about it.
Hey Gregory, thanks for your comment. I'm not familiar with Source Connect so I can't really say if Audiomovers or Sessionwire would be a better solution. I'll take a look because while I like both, I think there is still room for these platforms to mature. Thanks for pointing me to the other alternative.
The new version of sessionwire is really amazing no more aggregation
Steve, sorry my friend. I have not watched one of your videos in a good while. To my delight, your content is even better than the last time I was here (and it was already fantastic). You are so much more comfortable on screen. How do you do it? I'm still stiff and can't seem to get comfortable in front of the camera.
The Tone Lounge All good Jon! I hear your headed to Europe for a good stint! And thank you!
After working on the beats of a project in Lagos, Nigeria, I sent the audio files to a studio in Tennesse, USA, and supervised the recording of vocals on the beats yesterday using AudioMovers. The experience was simply miraculous! I am just hearing about sessionwire for the first time though, but I am looking forward to also trying it out.
+Tayo Bamgbose cool! I’m glad it worked out for you. We have some awesome tools available.
Would be glad to see the tools.
arent you worried about having to bypass your adda converter ??? Can u keep your n ative audio workflow / signal path out to your local monitors and then buss out to the app with sessionwire as a second audio source by assignment in protools?
+Michael Guy they both function as plugins so everything remains in the digital domain. No recording is happening over the network if that is what you mean. I’m not sure I answered you question.
It was awesome Steve! Thanks for this video. I'll try them right now
+soundclass both have big updates. Both really good.
I’m a film composer and I’ve been trying to decide on a solid program for doing remote scoring sessions with directors that don’t happen to be able to make it into the studio. I was pretty set on Soundwhale for a while, ListenTo was off the table just because of the lack of real time video functionality and Sessionwire’s been a little more enticing now that I know it exists. I may migrate to Sessionwire for the sheer simplicity of using it and not confusing the shit out of my directors
+Jonathan Kessler yeah I get it. Not confusing the clients probably outweighs every other consideration.
Hi Steve, I am currently analyzing Sessionwire and have found it a little complicated. It works for me but the thought of trying to assist colleagues who are musicians not software techs does not fill me with joy.. How easy is AudioMovers in comparison?
+David Bradbury audiomovers is in fact quite easy. If you want to play something for someone they can paste a link into a browser. If they have to broadcast to you they will need to instantiate the plug-in in the right spot, login and then send a link. It’s less technical.
Hey Steve, great video! We have had some success with Source Connect from Source Elements. They have a pretty sweet collection of software depending on what you want to do. Our use case is language overdubs from around the world. Usually we travel to where the talent is located, or meet in a central hub, but obviously 2020 happened, so Source Connect has been our go to so far. We have done some testing with both Sessionwire and Audiomovers, but a big concern of ours is security. We can't have content going through servers of these companies. So I think that killed Audiomovers for us. We do still have more testing to do!
Anyway, thanks for the great video and keep it up! My community is growing too on my channel. Check it out if you have a moment.
Thanks for adding to the info. I'll def have a look at your channel and check our Source Connect as well.
I have Source connect Standard and is amazing!
WOW! This is big! I never knew such options for online sessions. Thank you so much for the input. Definitely gonna watch all of your videos.
Exactesy fantastic! I’d be interested to know how you like either of them.
I like how honest you are in this presentation ... Thanks !
For songwriting and collaboration I think they are both awesome tools and most likely both will find a home in my bag of tricks ...
They are both Peer to Peer secure link which is a plus for licensing and copyright issues ... Also I have become aware that some Studios are employing the use of these great innovative platforms ...
+Martin Frog yes, there are recent updates to both platforms as well. I’m seeing a big improvement in this technology quite quickly. Good for all of us!
Another great video Steve!!! Keep up the great content!!! I never knew about Audio Movers - what a great tool :). Will have to try both!
Madlucky Music thanks Troy! Always awesome to hear from you.
This is what I would choose remote with somebody over there with work studio music sessionwire !
+Tommy Ray Staley Jr. 👍🏻
Thanks, great info! My current setup is zoom for webcam, chat and video recording. When I need audio quality I switch to audio movers and send the link to my students. Very easy and reliable. Maybe I will try session wire when they add windows support (students are 50/50 Mac/win). Greetings
Taller del Seba Rehbein thanks for sharing. I agree, audiomovers is easy and reliable.
@@SteveInTheMix But extremely expensive really ...
Source connect standard is great. I do voiceover and when I connect to any studio they recording me in the own daw. Basically I don't need to do anything, just setup my mic level and my script. But Definitely I will try sessionwire and audiomover just in case for future projects. Great video and thanks so much for the tips!
So it's fast enough to do the recording on the other end of the line! That's pretty awesome. How do you feel your connection affects the sound quality if at all? Thanks for telling me about it.
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okay I was using sessionlink and sourceconnect for a while after ISDN in europe was stoped. IN ISDN TIME with aptx and mayah we didn´t have any probs. We had a mounted latency under 40 ms . But now there are many probs with voip. But to sessionwire is now my first choice. Very stable and I cnat handle overdub tracking very well. And with a little work around on Pro Tools. I can place the recorded track in sync without a mouse.
+Onyx Dust that’s pretty good! I have a feeling this technology will matje a lot in the next couple of years.
thanks! great info, watched you and now know the lay of the land. I can now make some choices
robert longoria fantastic Robert! Thanks for letting me know.
Great video! Will definitely help us on our projects remotely between Paris and Tokyo
That sound pretty cool!
Audiomovers has PCM streaming options including bit accurate 32 bit float PCM, Sessionwire streams compressed audio only.
+I Maxy yeah, I’ve seen the PCM options. Do you have any experience on how that does with a “home” internet connection? I find even with the compressed audio that sessionwire can start to have issues when going to a larger video window and I have a pretty decent internet service.
@@SteveInTheMix PCM works great even with a Home internet connection, they key is to set latency settings that will match your internet latency, rather than bandwidth. If your internet connection can do at least 10 Mb upload and download, you should be fine with any PCM option if you set latency correctly. Sessionwire is P2P and communicates directly between nodes, Listen to is not P2P so it should work better in more cases.
@@imaxy00 ahh, that makes sense. Thanks!
Another great video Steve!!!
Kris Siegers thank you Kris!!!!
I need your help Steve setting up my Logic Pro please
Another video mentioned looking up the frame rate/lag in zoom settings, then using that number in audiomovers to sync. I've never used audiomovers but might be worth looking up to make it feel more in person
Worth a try but I suspect it might end up being complicated. I expect the signals will drift back and forth. Zoom doesn't seem stable in terms of audio speed. I'd love to know if you find it work though!
Nice and simple engineer, that every one should be)
Thanks!!!!! I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.
So, to be clear, there aren't any latency issues? And if that is the case, can either of these programs be used in unison with streaming apps? ie, Zoom. I realize Zoom is not a pro app for audio and video, however, there are many talented amateurs who are looking ways to gig online, set up shows, etc. Thoughts? Advice? Thanks!
+Todd Waddington Productions Each facilitates a stereo stream in one direction or the other in a higher quality audio than zoom does. You can’t “play along” as latency would be a big issue. There is no way for the software to compensate for the length of time it would take to move across the internet. That fluctuates and could be a long time. The upside is that the stream sounds good and is very stable. You’ll notice that zoom speeds up and slows down. Online shows are a different matter and no my specific area of expertise but there is good software for stream broadcast. These aren’t for that. Does that help?
Great Video ! Thanks !
+Ted Skolits you’re welcome Ted!!
I cant believe you called a URL an 'Earl'
+Mike Rodio I move fast. 😂
Didn't know about Sessionwire. I accompany dance in real time. The concession has been for me to ignore that the movers are behind. --Maddening. Audiomovers doesn't have video and the instructor has to run the program also - technology is not something many dance instructors want to belabor. Thanks!!
I haven't found any solution that really works in directions in realtime. I'm not sure a consumer internet connection is really up to the task. Maybe in a few years when connections are even faster...
Coooool
+Gerald V and they’re getting better since then.
CHECK WITH STREAMYARD. SEE IF YOU CAN HAVE THEIR SERVERS GIVE UNLIMITED BANDWIDTH. MAYBE PARTNER WITH THEM. JUST AN IDEA.
Thanks for the tip! I'm gonna check that out.
smashed that subscribe button
+Jake Mannix Thanks!
(4:22) audiomovers segment
This is so awesome to me !! BEEING FROM CALI BUT now living in the midwest i still have a lot of people out west that need me so I'm diggn this..check me out tho..Herbert sellers on reverb nation.
Okay, cool. Looking you up on on reverb.
Sessionwire has been a horrible experience for me. I’m always out of sync to the client and so much stuttering. So far terrible