Pantlaza vs War Doctor & Clara vs Sauron vs Titania EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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  • @reidgache3373
    @reidgache3373 9 місяців тому +59

    The amount of removal that the Pantlaza got and it still got cast over and over again was absurd this game

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  9 місяців тому +15

      Gauntlet of Power on green was VERY strong for him.

    • @elcapitanofthemtn
      @elcapitanofthemtn 9 місяців тому +3

      I honestly think Pantlaza was a mistake. I don’t know how you make it less busted - maybe make the discover trigger off of the mana value instead of toughness - but I think it is rebuilds way too quickly off of boardwipes which are the most effective ways for most decks to deal with an army of huge dinos.

  • @guilhermeviana3669
    @guilhermeviana3669 9 місяців тому +30

    Pantlaza can rebuild the field so fast that I'm wondering what would happen if he wasn't removed so much. Very interesting commander.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  9 місяців тому +18

      It was wild to see in person. Felt like every time we started getting things under control, he'd just pop off and get three bodies on board out of nowhere.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer 9 місяців тому +5

      Yeah even amongst my group Pantlaza has become a 'Kill on Sight' commander because it can rebuild so easily.

  • @brandoncreek5709
    @brandoncreek5709 9 місяців тому +11

    So casting Ephemerate off of discover means that you cannot rebound it, since it's not cast from hand. Felix chose not to anyway, so it doesnt change anything but just a note: if you wanna rebound ephemerate, let it go to your hand before you cast it (I made this mistake many times lol)

  • @liamw.1313
    @liamw.1313 9 місяців тому +32

    It looks like there was maybe a misplay on the ghalta mavren, It's a little hard to tell from the camera, but ghalta and mavren should only count OTHER creatures, so putting the xenagos effect on it does not give you a huge creature. Very easy thing to miss though!

    • @felixgirouard1398
      @felixgirouard1398 9 місяців тому +7

      Yep you are right that's a misplay on my part ! Thanks for telling !!

  • @psdouthitt
    @psdouthitt 9 місяців тому +9

    the quote "Backing up on Sauron" at 6:45 is an amazing out of context moment of this game

  • @Dovahninja
    @Dovahninja 9 місяців тому +9

    As a fellow Pants-lazer Sun-Flavored player, it warmed my heart seeing everybody try to stop it and it still went off and won the game.

  • @tylerbrooks6063
    @tylerbrooks6063 9 місяців тому +3

    2:25 into the game and WOW. Felix's top-decks were unbelievable! His opening hand was BAD and he just top decked -- 1 good T1 tap land to ramp later, T2 ramp spell he desperately needed, T3, another ramp creature to support his hand that really needed it.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +5

    Now, no doubt that Pantlaza is powerful, but in this game it was particularly explosive because Felix got a lot of indirect help from Marie, with Gauntlet of Power giving his forests double mana his green dinosaurs a toughness boost.

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +14

    I'm surprised Max didn't Chaos Warp the Rest in Peace that completely shuts down his reanimator deck... especially a Grixis deck, which struggles when it comes to removing enchantments.

    • @felixgirouard1398
      @felixgirouard1398 9 місяців тому +4

      Marie mentionned at that time that she would kill both of us. So max remove nissa instead.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  9 місяців тому +11

      Marie had been threating to ult with Nissa the following turn which spooked him.

  • @jackburdette8683
    @jackburdette8683 9 місяців тому +5

    rest in peace did so much work

  • @jonathandoherty9082
    @jonathandoherty9082 9 місяців тому +1

    Dinos got that juice after Lost Caverns, absolutely love to see it

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +8

    Felix couldn't rebound Ephemerate at all, because he didn't cast it from hand to begin with.

    • @richardhenriques4854
      @richardhenriques4854 9 місяців тому

      Yes but also, you can only discover once per turn.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +8

      @@richardhenriques4854 When Pantlaza is blinked, it returns as a new object and doesn't "remember" the previous discovery, so it can discover again.

  • @icarusfluffybottom899
    @icarusfluffybottom899 6 місяців тому +2

    Marie is shut down hard by Rest in Peace, yet when she casts Nissa, she chooses to tick up instead of removing the RIP? But why though!?

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 9 місяців тому

    If I recall what Gavin said while.playing the war doctor in shuffle up and play each card that is exiled counts as a distinct instance therefore adding a counter. I could be wrong though.

  • @greatshell311
    @greatshell311 7 місяців тому +1

    Uhhh you should have been putting time counters on the doc for every card exiled by pantzlaza

  • @Karzas
    @Karzas 9 місяців тому

    The card revealed by chaos warp was mistakenly put in Marie's hand if i saw that correct.

  • @MadnessOpus
    @MadnessOpus 9 місяців тому +1

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  • @TK-zd7ym
    @TK-zd7ym 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks to Magic, I can finally see my dream of Doctor Who battling against Sauron, battling against Dinosaurs. Truly a time to be alive.

  • @thehermit196
    @thehermit196 9 місяців тому +1

    i clicked on the video knowing that the pantlaza was going to win. a man can hope though

  • @matthews5692
    @matthews5692 9 місяців тому +1

    Was Felix getting the benefit from the gauntlet of power as well? Couldn’t tell since he had so much mana anyway 😂.

    • @ajchriss5101
      @ajchriss5101 Місяць тому

      he was. probably another reason as to why he was able to go off so much

  • @josephfreitag568
    @josephfreitag568 9 місяців тому +1

    I could be wrong but I’m fairly certain the war doctor counts each card that’s put into exile, not each instance of cards going into it. So when Maxime exiles the top five cards due to rest in peace the war doctor should have gained five counters. It’s at least now it works with cascade, but it could be different here.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  9 місяців тому +8

      Now I could be wrong, but based on my reading of it, the issue is because the War Doctor is weird in that he has the "One or more clause" put onto him. So in the case of a boardwipe, since they'd all be going in at the same time, he'd see it as one.
      Cascade and to an extent Chaos Wand / Wand of Wonder are different. Because you cascade and reveal one card at a time, he counts each card put to exile individually.

    • @josephfreitag568
      @josephfreitag568 9 місяців тому

      @@MTGMuddstahthat makes sense. I didn’t know if it would be different with cascade and rest in peace so I just wanted to say something.

  • @h3vonlyh3ll9
    @h3vonlyh3ll9 8 місяців тому

    Didn’t know you can choose to got discover of is pantlasa

  • @iorigamerMX
    @iorigamerMX 9 місяців тому

    Los dinosaurios se salieron de control amigos míos

  • @Greyplaysandslays
    @Greyplaysandslays 9 місяців тому

    Am I crazy or is he using the Discover ability from Pantlaza more than once per turn? It states on per turn on card.

  • @aldorocha5796
    @aldorocha5796 4 місяці тому

    pantlaza discovers only triggers once per turn lmao

  • @joshpeterson1894
    @joshpeterson1894 9 місяців тому

    I may be misunderstanding but ibwas under the impression that Pantlaza only trigger once a turn. There were several turns it appeared to trigger twice. What did i miss?

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  9 місяців тому +2

      Other creatures also have discover, and if you blink Pantlaza, it's ability can happen again.

  • @Metroidhunter13
    @Metroidhunter13 9 місяців тому

    That game was rough. Yikes. But a good game nonetheless! Huzzah

  • @subpump2823
    @subpump2823 8 місяців тому

    Why save her?

  • @Sackquaza
    @Sackquaza 9 місяців тому

    Ghalta and Maverin can't make a token using their own power/toughness because the ability says "other attacking"

  • @maxbodifee3263
    @maxbodifee3263 9 місяців тому +1

    Dinos go brrr

  • @pierre-carldemers9705
    @pierre-carldemers9705 9 місяців тому

    Feels like everytime FELIX casts his commander he only pays 5

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +6

      Marie unwillingly helped him with this, with Gauntlet of Power doubling the mana output of his forests as well.

  • @lonefire333
    @lonefire333 9 місяців тому

    The War Doctor and Clara seem like an excellent pair

  • @skabba
    @skabba 9 місяців тому

    no early sol rings this game, good to see a fair game!

  • @sonork
    @sonork 9 місяців тому +1

    Turns out most of the new commanders from the latest precons are extremely pushed power wise. Such is power creep.

  • @nicholasqualters
    @nicholasqualters 9 місяців тому

    Wouldn't you miss the first pantlaza trigger since a dino already came into play. Its a hard once per turn

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому +1

      It's a "may" trigger, so the player can choose not to discover so they can do it when a bigger dinosaur ETBs.
      There's a huge difference between "do this only once each turn" and "this ability triggers only once each turn".

  • @phoenixfiend-x897
    @phoenixfiend-x897 9 місяців тому +1

    First

  • @soratonin6972
    @soratonin6972 9 місяців тому

    turn 4, pantaloons triggered causing the 6/6 to come into play, it shouldnt have triggered again off of that, unless i missed something

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 9 місяців тому

      The card cast from Pantyraid's trigger also has discover. That's what caused the second trigger.

    • @DarkEinherjar
      @DarkEinherjar 9 місяців тому

      The new dino had a discover ETB of its own.

    • @soratonin6972
      @soratonin6972 9 місяців тому

      So, realized i didnt have sound on and didnt realize he neglected the discover off pantaloon.@@nicholasfarrell5981

    • @Darkagers
      @Darkagers 9 місяців тому +1

      Trumpeting Carnosaur discovers 5 on ETB

  • @Smaul002
    @Smaul002 9 місяців тому

    Looking forward to when the Pantlaza hype dies down. This guy is everywhere online and at my LGS. Already sick of it 😂

  • @JM-md4ux
    @JM-md4ux 9 місяців тому

    Titania deck needs to ramp harder and faster