The Luckiest Unluckiest Game
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
- Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
But with if you're good but unlucky?
#MorningLobby #Reunion
MORNING LOBBY REUNION SQUAD (Week 71)
Stream Date: Wednesday 3rd Jan 2024
Steve: / stevesuptic
Hafu: / itshafu
5up: / 5up
DK: / dakotaz //DK's Alt: / oak
DumbDog: / dumbdog
Koji: / koji
Kimi: / angelskimi
xChocoBars: / xchocobars
Courtilly: / courtilly
Aipha: / aipha
Kara: / karacorvus
Ovilee: / ovileemay
For information on the NEW ROLES from the Latest Town of Us Update, check out:
docs.google.com/document/d/1y...
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Someone should remind DK that without assassin, every game devolved into people claiming roles and the imposters were fucked.
The other way to fix that would be to make it so multiple people can get the same role and that roles are less confirmable, like medic not showing the person they are shielded for example
Basically just make it more like town of salem which is where a lot of the original role ideas came from
@@Fireball006assassin kinda seems like a necessity because sometimes clear and obvious who the killers are like half way through the game and are already going to vote them at least guessing roles still give the imposters a chance to win at that point, that’s why I think guessing roles should get more than 1 guess
@@Fireball006medic shield not showing for the shielded person I think is an option already
@@Fireball006 ToS has the Ritualist and Doomsayer which do exactly what the assassin does. And the difference there is you NEED the roles because you don't have crewmates running around gathering info. The roles are the only way to find the killers. In Among us the roles are an added feature and tend to be too op without counter balance. Meanwhile imposter roles tend to be crap. Like morphling is pretty much useless since the person you morph into always gets cleared. I don't think I've seen it work once as intended where it successfully frames the person. All it does is tell everybody the exact timing and makes it easy for crew to clear the entire lobby except you.
@@Chubbs13why should the imposters get a chance if they are already caught.
4:44 I disagree with dk here. Killers guessing roles is a way to balance out the fact that crewmates can just reveal their roles and see who the odd ones out are. In fact, the fact that killers can only guess one role per round is already a nerf to the imposters since in theory all the crewmates can reveal their roles and sacrifice 1 crew to get the info of who the imposters probably are
What about Hafu’s take that more than 1 guess per meeting is unfair and unbalanced?
@@AmongUsAcademy In my games we let the guessers take as many shots per meeting as they want. Don't reveal your role unless it's worth it. You can also mind game it and fake role claim so it's not like there isn't outplay potential for crewmates to bait bad guesses.
@@AmongUsAcademy hafu does have a point, because it usually isn't people just blatantly saying their roles in meetings. Most of the time it's how they act within the rounds themselves that reveals their roles, so it would give imposters an advantage for sure there. But I feel like imposters need all the help they can get, since most of the time they can't use their special roles since it would give the crewmates more clues. So idk, maybe infinite guesses per meeting is too much, so maybe 1 per meeting is fine for now.
Imposters would almost never win if they couldn't assassinate crew for claiming their roles. It becomes just a game of interrogating everyone over their roles and finding the 2 or 3 liars. I do think DK makes a good point, but there needs to be some incentive for crew to keep their roles secret. I think it even adds fun moments where crew have to hide information from each other and reveal it in ways that don't also reveal their roles. I've seen some really fun and creative strategies on that front.
Steve being dressed as 5up is messing with my head LOL
i remember the good old days when aipha used to dress as other players
Aipha repeatedly saying "Amnesiac" instead of Arsonist was sooo funny
Steve blindly finishing his drill task was sooo intense for no reason??? 😂
I actually find assassin probably the most fun aspect of the game to watch. I think it's very entertaining to think about how players behave in relation to the roles they could possibly be, and the tension between providing special info and risking your own skin. It's even more risky for imposters to take the shot, so I don't think it happens too much, and the payoff always feels earned. I don't know what DK means when he says the game previously felt more "psychological", but I find thinking about what everyone's roles could be based only on as much information as they can safely provide a greatly appreciated extra layer of intellectual stimulation. Perhaps he means that before the added roles, strategy had less to do with memorizing those roles interactions, which left more space for simply intuiting whether your friend was lying or not, but having assassin on is a countermeasure to roles being openly discussed (and also at a high level, I think Vanilla boiled down to a focus on map awareness and positioning, which I think is harder to follow than the roles, while the roles actually impact the ways in which your friends lie, which I find extra interesting). I think the most awkward thing about the game now is how tasks are this sort of design vestige that people need to do for the game to function, but also no one actually wants to do them all, because it's so much less interesting than the social deduction.
6:19 so funny seeing Hafu and Janet thinking about killing a shielded DumbDog 😂
The only way Assasin roles can become unnecessary again is by everyone very strictly abiding by the no role claiming rules. Otherwise it's literally process of elimination with no actual gameplay
i agree
And there's absolutely no way they can follow that rule. Even with the guessing, the people in the lobby often accidently reveal their roles (and then get punished for it). If you remove the punishment, they will just continue "accidently" revealing their roles except they'll be encouraged to do so so will start doing it more and more.
@@randomstrategy7679 Add to that, if a crewmate discovers an impostor using their role, how are they supposed to report the information? Just make something up? Get a free pass to role claim for the hard accuse?
5:11 I think Assassin is really cool because when it didnt exist there was basically a house rule to have people not claim roles but with Assassin it allows people to claim roles but it also means that they'll be punished for that.
The example in my mind is a Detective detects someone and it flashes red, but if you aren't allowed to claim roles you just have to say "i know its this person, trust me." With assassin, someone can claim detective and say that, but then the killer has to decide if they want to play it as "they're the executioner trying to get me out" or if they just want to guess the detective and trade.
And I was waiting for dumbdog's reaction when he realised he killed both impostors because the ignite button doesn't go on cooldown after dousing.
What do you mean?
@@pradeepmathias
If there are no impostors left, the ignite button will have a seperate cooldown from the douse button.
The two's cooldown are usually connected.
He's quick witted so he would've realised it if he survived the meeting.
It would've been a good reaction because there are still too many players alive and other players wouldn't have noticed that the impostors are dead very early in the game.
I agree with DK a little about guessing, but that was kind of a reaction to all the role calling that was happening.
Arguably it adds another psychological layer of how to get information out without also outing your role/or being dead sure of your info before you accidently out your role.
It took me way too long to realize that was Steve and not 5up
I love the Deafen Wars! Also, this is the first time I've seen an Arsonist take out both impostors simultaneously.
Gobsmacked at 7:13 😦
That was a very specific set of arson victims...
I'm glad that 5up isn't taking it as seriously at this point, so he messes with the deafen wars instead haha
Like, the undeafened thing is still annoying as hell to me, but it's healthier for 5up to let it go at this point haha
I don’t watch Kara so I’m not gonna know what kind of pets she has….but is that a snake around her neck? 🫨
yes, she talks about how she's a snake mama in many of her streams
Did Kara have a pet snake?!? I thought I saw....was so cute!
I appreciate the AUA content for the added meta-pressure too, I know the lobby has been grinding this game for ages and I think the graphs and stat-tracking gooses them to try a bit harder than if it was just for a twitch/youtube audience.
I mean that's not my intention for the record. I just keep stats cause obviously a lot of people enjoy them and find it interesting. E.g. keeping Uno Winrate stats etc.
Oh yeah, I'm not saying its malicious, I appreciate that it's probably helped the lobby from disintegrating too hard into shenanigans. @@AmongUsAcademy
i got hella tripped up by the 5up cosplay
I think I prefer a single assassin who can do it multiple times in a single meeting
I agree with dks point of view which is why i really like when they made the imposter/vigilante guesses only one instead of unlimited. It makes it so people who are too clear die and impostors won’t hold roles until the very end to guarantee a win.
So happy we got the flashback!!
Just like me, 1 minute before a vocabulary test back in school 7:27
I've gotta disagree with dk here (but I still respect him!). assassin doesn't stop the game being psychological. Having to hide your role and not be guessed is very psychological. Hell just watch a chilled lobby.
having people just all clear each other and announce their roles openly is just so painful to watch and painful as an imposter. Although I will say I'm not hugely keen on doubleshot or doomsayer. It does take things too far.
what's doubleshot & doomsayer???
LMAOOOO
🤨I get dk’s point, do we really need crew roles? neutral and imposter roles only could solve this issue and make it so guessing could be removed. Cant announce roles if every crewmate was just crew 🎉
I'm yet to see a game where Koji does not whine lol