Byzantine Navy: Greek Fire, Tactics, Ships - Medieval History

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  • @KingsandGenerals
    @KingsandGenerals  Рік тому +39

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    • @Guureufd
      @Guureufd Рік тому

      Not all of algeria under byzantine rule

    • @atrides7
      @atrides7 Рік тому

      What a beautifull video ! Thank you sir!❤

    • @aokiaoki4238
      @aokiaoki4238 Рік тому

      Byzantine types ships continue to be made and used as very effective fishing and merchant ships after the fall of Byzantium and developed to what is known as traditional Greek ships. For example the boat Karavoskaro (Καραβόσκαρο) is a development of Dromon. An other one is Perama Πέραμα etc

    • @aokiaoki4238
      @aokiaoki4238 Рік тому

      Greek fire was used against Ottomans in the siege of Constantinople in1422, also in 1430 in the siege of Thessaloniki and planned to be used in 20 April 1453 against Ottoman ships.

    • @markhenzel4637
      @markhenzel4637 Рік тому

      Can you do a video on Fall of Malacca in 1511 by Portugal. Also another war story of Tun Perak of Malacca fought Siamese, please?

  • @apollosdomain
    @apollosdomain Рік тому +118

    I really like your commitment on going back, trying to finish the old and probably one of the most popular series of the channel.

  • @frankscavelli6031
    @frankscavelli6031 Рік тому +91

    This is sick. Such an interesting topic I've often wondered about, and only Kings and Generals covers such things. So important with how their naval interactions with the Italian Republics influenced their fate, too.

    • @marcbartuschka6372
      @marcbartuschka6372 Рік тому

      Invicta has if I remember right a not bad video about the flaming ships.

  • @mikemodugno5879
    @mikemodugno5879 Рік тому +168

    I love Byzantine/Eastern Roman history. Looking forward to more.

  • @pseudomonas03
    @pseudomonas03 Рік тому +19

    Nikephoros Phokas's naval operation and landing on Crete against the Saracens, was the equivalent of the medieval Normandy operation. We are talking about a huge operation for the navy standards of the time, which give us an idea, about the capabilities of the Byzantine navy. Then after Michael VIII, Andronikos II Palaiologos, a disastrous emperor, was the tombstone of the Byzantine navy.

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 Рік тому +34

    "I fear no Pirate or Saracen boat, but that thing... It scares me". - An Eastern Roman Sailor pointing towards the Whale called Porphyrios.

  • @damyanzagorski8996
    @damyanzagorski8996 Рік тому +2

    Thanks =)

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea Рік тому +147

    Although the recipe for Greek Fire was lost to the ages, the flamethrower design found its way to China. The Pen Huo Qi (literally means "fire spraying device") first saw action in the 10th century, during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period. It's design was based on the blueprints of seventh century Byzantine siphons, with Chinese engineers improving on the design by adding an extra bellow. This upgrade allowed Chinese fire siphons to achieve a more continuous flame, therefore allowing them to fire a constant stream of fire using liquid naphtha like modern day flamethrowers rather than in short bursts as the Byzantine siphons were only capable of. Just like the Byzantines, the Chinese made use of these crude flamethrowers offensively by mounting them onto the prow of their warships, or bringing them to the battlefield on four wheeled pushcarts. However the Chinese tended to use them defensively, as they would often mount their flamethrowers on the walls of cities or forts where the garrison could fire down upon enemy soldiers assaulting the walls or to burn down incoming siege engines such as rams or siege towers.

    • @eduardomonte4685
      @eduardomonte4685 Рік тому +3

      Interesting, thank you for the share.

    • @99Lowel
      @99Lowel Рік тому +6

      history like this will make you think why would you hate China. They're thousand years older than USA. They had survived literally since ancient times.
      Great innovators and a fertile race in a fertile land they owned with rich culture. Survived a lot of crisis by keeping on rising on power even after major defeat (like the mongol conquest)

    • @timtom2284
      @timtom2284 Рік тому +24

      ​@@99Loweltoday's china is but a shadow of its former glory

    • @hannibalb8276
      @hannibalb8276 Рік тому +1

      Not really

    • @Mr.LaughingDuck
      @Mr.LaughingDuck Рік тому +30

      @@99Lowel There a caveats. You can love the people, but hate the government. Russia, China, and Iran have many fine respectable people who can be among your cherished friends.
      Their authoritarian governments and politics, however, are all rubbish.

  • @flaviusbelisarius5506
    @flaviusbelisarius5506 Рік тому +22

    It would also have been interesting to document the Byzantine breakaway states (Trebizond especially); did they try and rebuild an Imperial fleet as well?

  • @Kaiyanwang82
    @Kaiyanwang82 Рік тому +11

    Absolutely loved this one. Thank you for the (available) details on the Greek Fire.

  • @ISAF_Ace
    @ISAF_Ace Рік тому +434

    The Byzantine navy was the only branch of their empire which consistently did its job and upheld its Roman legacy.

    • @paulmer87
      @paulmer87 Рік тому +95

      I’d argue the Varangian Guard was the unit the Praetorian Guard could only dream it could be. I agree, the Navy was super impressive

    • @zxera9702
      @zxera9702 Рік тому +22

      ​​@@paulmer87Yeahh no the Varangians were just really good mercenaries.

    • @joshkidd5463
      @joshkidd5463 Рік тому

      yeah so better than the praetorian which was bloated and which disposed and killed more emperors than romes enemies, while the varangian done it twice i think @@zxera9702

    • @sergioacevedo2254
      @sergioacevedo2254 Рік тому +43

      @@zxera9702 At least they actually did their jobs, unlike the praetorian "guard".

    • @davidtierney3615
      @davidtierney3615 Рік тому +8

      All glorified bodyguards 🤦‍♂️😅

  • @beaglemusiclabs
    @beaglemusiclabs Рік тому +6

    Good video! I was sort of hoping the half-Italian admiral Licario would get mention, interesting story there! Also cool were some of the large, horse-carrying ships such as those employed under the Komnenoi. But, enjoyed this!

  • @stephenbaluran3298
    @stephenbaluran3298 Рік тому +14

    Great video! The navy was the underappreciated branch of the Roman and Byzantine militaries.
    15:15 looks like it has a minor editing mistake: you were talking about the siege in 1453, but the date stamp on the upper right corner says 1349. Just thought you'd want to know.

  • @apollosdomain
    @apollosdomain Рік тому +50

    Hey, can you guys do a video on the Assyrian empires, rise and fall of it, it’s language, culture, religion and their eventual conversion to Christianity, and how the modern Assyrians are related to them.

    • @mikemodugno5879
      @mikemodugno5879 Рік тому +3

      I second this request. However, the sheer scope of all of these topics may require more than one video:)

    • @AL_AFGHANI1
      @AL_AFGHANI1 Рік тому

      Who cares they barely exist now

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Рік тому

      @@mikemodugno5879 I support this request too

    • @Aethelhald
      @Aethelhald Рік тому +5

      @@AL_AFGHANI1 This is a history channel. We all care.

    • @AL_AFGHANI1
      @AL_AFGHANI1 Рік тому

      @@Aethelhaldnope I don’t

  • @KingRumar
    @KingRumar Рік тому +18

    Thank you for the lesson, it’s always nice to hear more Eastern Roman stories

  • @LordWyatt
    @LordWyatt Рік тому +6

    Naval history fascinates me, especially the progression of the Roman Navy

  • @ThomasManwoody
    @ThomasManwoody Рік тому +7

    Great video but why does the Hagia Sophia have minarets at 12:13?

    • @thehermit8723
      @thehermit8723 Рік тому +3

      Indeed historically ( and aestheticaly) inaccurate

  • @mango2005
    @mango2005 Рік тому +13

    A video on the Empire of Trebizond would be good

  • @cirthador1453
    @cirthador1453 Рік тому +8

    I loved this video, and I love the Byzantines! One small error, you said 698 for the first siege with Greek Fire, I believe you meant to say 678.

  • @jozzieokes3422
    @jozzieokes3422 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much Kings and Generals!!!

  • @eugenebraxton2987
    @eugenebraxton2987 Рік тому +1

    As always, the best UA-cam channel out, no contest

  • @davidhughes8357
    @davidhughes8357 Рік тому +3

    Another great example of interesting and detailed presentation of warfare.
    K&G is truly the KING!!

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 Рік тому +6

    These flame equipped ships would also carry their own sand, vinegar, or other flame snuffing material even if their opponents had no incendiaries, because blowback or residual burning oil dribbling down onto one's own ship tended to happen frequently.

  • @ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΙΟΣΤΣΙΟΤΣΙΑΣ

    Thank you for your continuous interest of the Eastern Roman Empire. Looking forward for more!

  • @vitorpereira9515
    @vitorpereira9515 Рік тому +24

    It would be interesting if Kings and Generals made a series about the Three Kingdoms era. I am team Cao Cao.

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Рік тому +1

    Thanks for a terrific video!

  • @aokiaoki4238
    @aokiaoki4238 Рік тому +11

    Byzantine types ships continue to be made and used as very effective fishing and merchant ships after the fall of Byzantium and developed to what is known as traditional Greek ships. For example the boat Karavoskaro (Καραβόσκαρο) is a development of Dromon. An other one is Perama Πέραμα etc

  • @lyonvensa
    @lyonvensa Рік тому +6

    I really want to know the reaction of those who witnessed the flamethrowers on the Byzantine ships for the first time. The fact that it spews fire that not even water can put out must be thought of something like it came from another world.

  • @vagpaithe3570
    @vagpaithe3570 Рік тому

    love kingsandgenerals , big fan , i just wanted to mention that last naval win of byzantium was the battle of glarentza , i hope in your next video you mention the epriote attempt to sieze power in the peloponese

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley5790 Рік тому +15

    At some point it would be interesting to see some stuff about the Vandals and goths - if anything exists to tell. They always seem to do surprisingly well against the Romans so there must have been alot more to their society than is suggested

    • @Aethelhald
      @Aethelhald Рік тому +5

      They seemed to do so well against the empire because they had a knack for waiting until the empire was suffering from severe crises (like the crisis of the third century), then pouring over an undefended border and marauding at will with no legions to stop them.
      The exception to that would be the battle of Adrianople and the years immediately following, but even then the Roman defeat is due to the emperor ignoring some of the oldest rules in the book... like "don't have your men fight in scorching summer heat when they're already exhausted after a long march in the scorching summer heat" and "don't underestimate your opponent - if reinforcements are on the way, make camp and wait for them before beginning the battle."
      The Goths and Vandals of the fifth century did so well because the WRE was so broke that it barely even had an army anymore, and half the time, the army that it DID have, was led by a half-Goth or half-Vandal and three quarters of its soldiers were Goths and Vandals lol.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro Рік тому

      Yes. Starting from fact that they WERE Romans. Vandals sacked Rome acting under orders of legal Emperor against usurper. Ostrogoths actually were Roman Auxiliary unit what take control over Rome after that. In fact Senate of Rome was operating under they rule, until Longobards. Idea that West Rome fall is a misconception. Francorum was actually a Roman province. It is just that East Rome didn't recognize them as Romans and as result Charlemagne used succession crisis in Byzantium and liberation of Rome by his father, as justification for taking the title of Emperor of Rome.

  • @forswornbriarheart
    @forswornbriarheart Рік тому +2

    My favorite UA-cam channel!

  • @noone4700
    @noone4700 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video

  • @silverbrand5295
    @silverbrand5295 Рік тому +1

    The idea of an angel descending down to us, handing us the recipe for a flamethrower, molotov cocktail and then head back to heaven is great

  • @alfrancisbuada2591
    @alfrancisbuada2591 Рік тому +6

    People rarely ever discuss the Roman Navy. Thank You for sharing it with us

  • @JetonHoxha99
    @JetonHoxha99 Рік тому

    The introduction would be a perfect prologue for a historical novel based on this age.

  • @dantetre
    @dantetre Рік тому +4

    15:19 Constantinople fall in 1453 and not in 1349.

  • @mr.fishmanman
    @mr.fishmanman Рік тому +4

    The Fire is from The Mouth of Belisarius Really Angry At Narses

  • @ralambosontiavina7372
    @ralambosontiavina7372 11 місяців тому

    Excellent work !

  • @Skyguy_steve
    @Skyguy_steve Рік тому +5

    I love your eastern Roman Empire videos/ Ottoman videos! I am headed to visit Istanbul for 2 weeks and soak in the history and culture of the region.

  • @nugnug118
    @nugnug118 Рік тому +1

    i own a bronze Follis from Justinian 1, i was playing with it in my hand when he was mentioned. strange to think i own a piece of metal that was created when he was alive, watching about byzantine history on youtube whilst holding a piece of history in my hand.. we forget sometimes how lucky we are to have untapped knowledge so easily accessible.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Рік тому +3

    Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

  • @spear-slayer3159
    @spear-slayer3159 Рік тому +4

    Empire of Trebizond please!

  • @trajan74
    @trajan74 Рік тому

    Justinian: "An angel whispered it to Constantine."
    Tsukulous: "I'm not saying it was aliens."

  • @nikostombris5505
    @nikostombris5505 Рік тому +9

    The modern Hellenic navy to honor its Byzantine tradition gave in 2004 the name to the F-466 S class ship of Nicephorus Phokas

  • @arbazkhalid5673
    @arbazkhalid5673 Рік тому +2

    Justine reforms are the reasons that the empire survived this long. he almost improved every department of the empire. that's why people know him as Justinian the Great.👑

  • @NAviationWario
    @NAviationWario Рік тому +1

    'Georgios, bring in the flammenwerfer.'

  • @eugenebraxton2987
    @eugenebraxton2987 Рік тому +1

    I've been here since couple hundred followers, 3.whatever million now. Yeah the best channel like I said

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  Рік тому

      We appreciate your support so much! Thanks for being with us for so long! prnt.sc/edZpYyULHgRy

  • @agenthunk5070
    @agenthunk5070 Рік тому +1

    great series!!!😀

  • @Dantheman813
    @Dantheman813 Рік тому +5

    GREEK FIRRREEE!!! 🔥🔥✳️✳️

    • @Aethelhald
      @Aethelhald Рік тому +1

      More like "Phwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
      Followed by "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHLAHU AKBAR!"

  • @dansmith4077
    @dansmith4077 Рік тому

    For the algorithm amazing video thank you.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 Рік тому +1

    Cool!

  • @sirfanatical8763
    @sirfanatical8763 Рік тому +2

    2:56 I did not just hear a machinegun in the back on a scene about the roman empire
    Or did I?

  • @sarantissporidis391
    @sarantissporidis391 Рік тому +4

    Fun fact :Greek fire was called Liquid Fire in Greek - Υγρόν Πυρ.

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Рік тому

    Thanks for the video

  • @ramuz-ff3cf
    @ramuz-ff3cf Рік тому +1

    i've been obsessed with learning about fire ships for like a year now and how they let that technology disappear for so long. btw do you still watch vaush?

  • @ryanjean-baptistethechampi1161

    The greatest empire even lived!! Nuff said!!!!🔥.⚡zues approve!!!!

  • @darthveatay
    @darthveatay Рік тому +2

    One of the most powerful fighting forces in history

  • @AbdurahmanAli-lr4ph
    @AbdurahmanAli-lr4ph 10 місяців тому

    What is the name of the music in 10:56

  • @someone_somewhere_from........

    Do the Umayyad navy next please!?

  • @erikhesjedal3569
    @erikhesjedal3569 Рік тому +2

    Not at all mysterious why they got rid of the bow ram, of course it was the Varangian guards (Norse) who told them a thing or two about how important it is to have a maneuverable and light ship. You won't be crushed by the waves if you're on top of them

  • @sidp5381
    @sidp5381 Рік тому +3

    So, when are you guys finally going to release the next Napoleon episode maybe Wagram or the invasion of Russia?

  • @jasondouglas6755
    @jasondouglas6755 Рік тому

    What happened to the Pacific War series there has not been an episode for 3 weeks?

  • @qwaz67
    @qwaz67 Рік тому +1

    Greek fire goes BRRRRRRRR

  • @esnoob2282
    @esnoob2282 Рік тому +1

    you got me hype in the new dlc of aoe4

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
    @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 5 місяців тому

    Ghost Argo: You've inherited my flame, use it wisely when the time is right
    USS New Jersey (BB-62) machine spirit: I shall, FOR I AM FIRE I AM DEATH!

  • @xjankox
    @xjankox Рік тому +9

    Much respect for your work, as always it was and awesome video. One gripe thought, when you are depicting Constantinople, you are always showing an artist render of Hagia Sophia with 4 towers in the corners. I’m sure you guys know this, but those tall slim towers are actually minarets, which were added after the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans in 15th century when it was converted into a mosque. This is of course very inaccurate and misleading as it’s trying to depict a Christian Byzantine (Roman) Empire capitol by showing a later Ottoman version of its most important church and visually stunning landmark building.

    • @AL_AFGHANI1
      @AL_AFGHANI1 Рік тому +1

      It is mosque and always will be now

    • @charliebarkshire4320
      @charliebarkshire4320 Рік тому +7

      ⁠​⁠@@AL_AFGHANI1not sure what your comment has anything to do with the original post… he literally just said that at the time the Hagia Sophia was without the four minarets and that it should be depicted as such when showcasing that time period

    • @ilipap3695
      @ilipap3695 Рік тому

      @@AL_AFGHANI1 maybe yes maybe no.The fact is that until 1500 there was minarets there

    • @megakljan
      @megakljan Рік тому +1

      ​@@AL_AFGHANI1what a reply. Aggressive muslim as always

    • @Aethelhald
      @Aethelhald Рік тому +3

      @@charliebarkshire4320 He's a troll. Whenever there's a video about the ERE the comments usually get flooded by Turks who like to gloat about the conquest of Constantinople. They also like to claim that every famous conqueror from history was a Turk. Attila, Genghis, Saladin, Charlemagne, Napoleon, the Sea Peoples... they were all Turks according to Turks.
      And of course their empire was the bestest ever, even though it isn't known for anything other than onion hats and genocide in the Balkans and Armenia.

  • @nikosAssa
    @nikosAssa Рік тому

    It,s called " υγρό πυρ" meaning liquid fire.

  • @las_espannas
    @las_espannas Рік тому

    Battle of Mount Thabor 1799 next video please.

  • @luciusvorenus264
    @luciusvorenus264 Рік тому +2

    Create series of Constantine the Great

  • @murrayscott9546
    @murrayscott9546 Рік тому

    Made my night ! What parta Greek Fire don't you unnastan ?

  • @majorianus8055
    @majorianus8055 Рік тому +2

    Yes another Roman content❤❤

  • @KonTheo78
    @KonTheo78 Рік тому

    I think the first time when the north-western Europeans have see a dragon on the sea, was when they have see a Greek fire ship.

  • @janetriggins2408
    @janetriggins2408 Рік тому

    The Varangian Guard as well but that's it

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb Рік тому +1

    George RR Martins Wildfire 😁

  • @elianvelazquez1217
    @elianvelazquez1217 Рік тому +1

    Even the papacy was protected by eastern roman navy before it independent

  • @iratepirate3896
    @iratepirate3896 Рік тому

    "Napalm was a gift from an angel"

  • @iwannisbalaouras1687
    @iwannisbalaouras1687 Рік тому

    i hope you complete the series after alexios with his son John and grandson emmanuel🙃

  • @paul1780
    @paul1780 Рік тому +1

    Comment for the algorithm.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому +2

    This was a great look into the Eastern Roman Navy maybe we can see a video on the Ottoman Navy next. Or even the navies of other Eastern Roman enemies.

  • @Kolious_Thrace
    @Kolious_Thrace Рік тому +4

    Byzantine army… one of a kind!
    Unfortunately surrounded by many enemies and our “allies” were hating us more than our enemies so we ended up like this…

  • @RosierJulio
    @RosierJulio 10 місяців тому

    Parte 2 porfavot

  • @davidlester1308
    @davidlester1308 Рік тому

    What was the symbol for the Vandal ship flag? That had better not have been the Black Sun. That symbol would be entirely ahistorical as it’s only ever been used in Himmler’s private castle and no other area. That would also make it a hate symbol.

  • @minimal8187
    @minimal8187 Рік тому +2

    It would be great if you could make a video about byzantine empire from the arab muslim perspective

  • @bryantwollman9420
    @bryantwollman9420 Рік тому

    This is nothing to do with the Byzantine Navy, but maybe putting together playlists for the American Revolution, War of 1812, and the American Civil War. Let me know what you think.

  • @HainduPabodya6
    @HainduPabodya6 Рік тому

    I think wild fire inspired from the Greek fire

  • @neptune3569
    @neptune3569 Рік тому

    OH MY GOD LET'S GOOOOOOOO

  • @danielcuevas5899
    @danielcuevas5899 Рік тому +1

    Why must you open this wound. Oh god it hurts.

  • @thegreatstalin1138
    @thegreatstalin1138 Рік тому +5

    Imagine if nuclear weapons become as legendary as greek fire in the future

    • @abcdef27669
      @abcdef27669 Рік тому +4

      Well, I'm afraid of that possibility, if you know what I mean...

    • @mickcollins1921
      @mickcollins1921 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, after all recorded history is lost to the great nuclear war and future generations are left to make archeological guesses about things we do today, I could see a lot of parallels to Greek fire. "we don't know exactly how it worked, or who invented it, and it didn't make people unbeatable, but it definitely struck fear into the hearts of the enemy."

  • @miramax6165
    @miramax6165 Рік тому +2

    1123 years of Imperial honor and glory!

  • @cdunne11
    @cdunne11 6 місяців тому

    To anyone who reads this, please pray for my recovery and send positive thoughts my way.

  • @no_one134-z4m
    @no_one134-z4m Рік тому

    when is second crusade 😭😭😭😭

    • @KingsandGenerals
      @KingsandGenerals  Рік тому +1

      When ready

    • @no_one134-z4m
      @no_one134-z4m Рік тому +1

      @@KingsandGenerals cant wait for it anymore im very excited for it

    • @saratmodugu2721
      @saratmodugu2721 Рік тому

      @@KingsandGeneralsare you guys still on the writing stage for the mongol alternative history series a

  • @miiuorekamiki162
    @miiuorekamiki162 Рік тому +1

    They prolly want their enemy well-done

  • @ianblake815
    @ianblake815 Рік тому

    Rime of the ancient mariner!

  • @Killerqueen69420
    @Killerqueen69420 Рік тому +1

    comment for algorithm

  • @guillermochica
    @guillermochica Рік тому

    "Medieval successor"...

  • @jackmack6217
    @jackmack6217 Рік тому +3

    Just to point out, greek fire was actually called roman fire. Usage of the term "Greek fire" has been general in English and most other languages since the Crusades, but original Roman sources called the substance a variety of names, such as "sea fire" (Medieval Greek: πῦρ θαλάσσιον pŷr thalássion), "Roman fire" (πῦρ ῥωμαϊκόν pŷr rhōmaïkón). Never in the eastern roman history as it called "greek fire" other than in modern days.

    • @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide
      @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide Рік тому +3

      They called it Υγρόν πύρ - Liquid fire or pŷr thalássion (as you mentioned). They never call it Roman fire. You have obviously made this up out of your imagination. It was called "Greek fire" by the westerners, because the Eastern Roman empire was known as Greek empire.

    • @jackmack6217
      @jackmack6217 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Hydrogen-Hyperoxide I'd recommend you read roman sources before commenting an ignorant comment..
      All the information we have on Greek fire comes from references in Roman military manuals, and a number of secondary historical sources and contemporary chroniclers of the period, who referred to the substance as “sea fire”, “Roman fire”, “liquid fire”. Read the stretegikon of Maurice for proof.
      And the west called it a Greek empire to solidify their own right to the title of romans. As there couldn't be two roman empires.

    • @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide
      @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide Рік тому +3

      @@jackmack6217 Liquid fire was invented around 672 AD, by an engineer from Heliopolis, Syria (today's Baalbek) named Callinicos. the Emperor Maurice died in 27 November 602... strange. Perhaps besides emperor and general, he was also a prophet. And one more thing, the book was written in Greek language (I am Greek). You have read only the translation. Don't be too quick to call someone ignorant.

    • @jackmack6217
      @jackmack6217 Рік тому +3

      ​@@Hydrogen-Hyperoxide
      I used the strategical as an example of what they referred themselves as. Not once in the original strategikon was the term "greek/byzantine" used to refer the eastern roman empire.
      And if you read roman sources you'd know that they never used the term Greek to identify themselves.
      It makes sense that they called it roman fire as it was a roman invention rather than "Greek fire" which is a politically motivated term. This is why I said it was a ignorant comment. And I didnt just say it was called "roman fire" but it makes way more sense to use that term rather than "greek fire" which makes 0% sense.
      Also don't ridicule me, don't be childish and make needless remarks.
      You being Greek doesn't make a difference. There are major differences between medieval Greek and modern Greek. And you being greek has nothing to do with the current discussion? Congrats that you understand modern greek?

    • @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide
      @Hydrogen-Hyperoxide Рік тому +2

      @@jackmack6217 Anyone who knows modern Greek language well It is very easy to understand Koine. Don't try to give me lessons in my language. The fact that I have access to the original text, while you wait for the translation, (with its errors) if it doesn't make a difference, then what does? I will ignore any response from you from now on. I'm pretty sure I'm talking to a little kid...You mentioned a book as an example, which has nothing to do with the discussion.

  • @robin_hood1192
    @robin_hood1192 Рік тому

    Please cover siege of Gaza 100BC

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Рік тому +2

    I want to believe that in an alternate universe, the Eastern Romans would've created a Greek-fire turtle ship.

  • @Shiyam-eh3dj
    @Shiyam-eh3dj Рік тому +1

    “The Byzantines have been defeated. defeat, will overcome. Within three to nine years. To Allah belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice” (Surah Roman 2-4)
    “In the victory of Allah. He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful”. (Roman -5)
    These versus were revealed in 613 AD and Byzantine Defeated the Super power (Persians) exactly in 622 AD.

  • @Onezy05
    @Onezy05 Рік тому +2

    Haha Greek Fire go whoosh