Kazrog Avalon 747 First Demo: Is this Even Close?
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Thanks for rocking with us again, David!
That top end reminds me of all the 2000's era boy band records. Sounds insane!
This is why I love this channel. Always the first to post about new stuff that is TRULY USEFUL.
thanks, hope you dig the plugin!
It’s always a good day when my favorite mixing/mastering UA-camr uploads. Another great video David!
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A superb demonstration, David, thank you. Yours are always so good with your examples making it easy to hear what the plugin is doing.
I love the sound of this. I was considering a 737 by UA, but I'm glad I kept looking; this is the one! I hadn't heard of Kazrog before, but I have now! Diving in… 👏
THE best channel around, great plugin and great review as always
Well, we don't know if it's even close, because it's not being compared to the original hardware. Hope to see a comparison soon.
yeah wtf clickbait title
@@bresk13 How is it clickbait? Where in the title does it say he's comparing it to the hardware?
Got a 737 here in the studio... always lusted after a 747... loved true iron so Ive been highly anticipating this! Looks like they smashed it out the park! Great demo too David, loved the speed, great mix decisions when demoing the unit, found myself getting nostalgic vibes from the tones being achieved! Off to grab it! Epic!
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thanks so much, enjoy!
Well, if Kazrog nail it, so hardware 737 units behave very different. There was four different 737 hardware units i had in use here in Russia and compression on all four units makes vocals sounds plain. Maybe optical pairs installed in them are worse than one in your studio. I dunno. You are lucky☺️ i can't test Kazrog modeled plugin, but when i back home, i will try it. ☺️
never seen you smile so hard... a genuine reflection of how this unit makes one feel... fully agreed
wow that top end is just so smooth
kazrog really outdid themselves
thanks for watching!
I smiled the moment you pushed that top end.
Great video, I agree that it sounds so good that the video could stop at the beginning, sold
Thanks for this
Sounds great, thank, you David!
Masterful demo David, cheers.
Your eq smile at 4:35 timeless lol .Great vid
really nice on vocals. definitely has that avalon top and “pillowy” compression. i used to reserve the “pillow” label for tubetech cl1b but this is similar. different compressor than 737. eq does that avalon clarity white-hot knife thru butter thing. cool plugin. kazrog is king
thanks 😎
Nice, silk top end EQ ... As you said great for "slow music", not all over the place with hard steps up or down.
Thank you for the review, I have all Kazrog plugins except this one, gotta check it out!
thanks, hope you like it!
I knew nothing about that unit but now I'm blown away at how perfect it is. Makes you wonder why other companies don't have similar features.
thanks for checking it out!
Kazrog is absolutely top of the line, some of the VERY best around
thanks so much!
It shines :) I love how they modeled this piece of hardware
Just purchased this today. I use a lot of these plugins in my Gig Performer for live applications. This plugin has very low latency which is nice for the application. I also have the 737 coming from my UAD Apollo x8p but in order to use it, i have to run it through the hardware because has a bit of latency. I used the 747 on vocals and acoustic so far. I still have yet to dial in the acoustic but sounds soooo sweet on vocals. Very nice plugin!
How does this compare with the UAD version? Is the 737 a different hardware than the 747?
I don't even bother watching any other channel, especially reviews. It's crazy to me how you teach me mixing while just showing a new plug in
You realise that he is paid for those reviews?
Bought on the spot, if David thumbs it up, I buy. This is something special
thank you, make some great music out there!
Nice indeed! I have always enjoyed whatever Kazrog does; their Ampcraft 92 and True series is fantastic. I'l be picking Avalon up soon.
great demo! 🎊😁
thanks, we appreciate you! make some great music with it ⚡
The eq on the 737sp has the same vibe, beautiful high end with little phase or weird artifacts, the first time I used it I had to bypass to make sure it was on because I was so used to other eq's.
very impressive, the compressor action is so good for a plugin, wow. Purchased...
thanks, enjoy!
Nailed it! Perfecto!
Wow they nailed this! So cool
thank you!
Anything kazrog is a must buy at this point
enjoy! 🙏
Hi David, thanks a lot for your comprehensive video. By the way, please let us know when the reggae/dancehall song at the end is released, it's awesome.
Good to see you David, I do not think I seen you around lately. You must be very busy. I appreciate the video!!!!
It's actually UA-cam not showing my videos to basically anyone lol but thank you!
@@mixbustv I am sorry. I should be subscribed to your channel. I wonder why I am not seeing the video's pop up.
Kazrog do very few, but very good plugins... I love their transformer plugin
It seems they do not release something unless it is perfect... much better than some companies that just keep releasing anything hoping one in a while stick
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@KazrogLLC it's hardly hard to.
You clearly go for quality over quantity and get pretty dam close.
I don't compliment anything unless it's honest and deserved
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"i think they nailed it" love to hear it
this funky dude is so advanced 🎖🎖🎖 best channel when it comes to fine tune your mix 🏆
Thank you!
I own an analog 747 so did a shoot out between the plugin and the actual unit. They, of course, are not exactly the same. I don't have the greatest converters, so I don't know what the converter bias is. I used a test tone to make sure that everything was correctly matched. I put the plugin on it's "best" setting in the setup window. The top end is better on the analog and the low end more focused. The stereo image on the analog is also slightly better. I found I had to adjust the compressor threshold on the plugin to get the gain reduction the same. Both the analog and plugin sound good. I would buy this plugin because it is a nice sounding plugin that has a classiness to it, not because it sounds identical to the analog unit. The plugin has the sound of a high end piece of analog gear. As I said earlier, I don't know what part the converters have played in this test.
God-tier plugin holy shieeet
thank you ⚡
As soon as your video expressed enthusiasm I went and bought it, I’ll watch the rest later. Kazrog, to me, represents a model of plugin etc. companies. I’ve been using True Iron on every track since it came out, and also use KClip. They are excellent and the prices and support amazing. I’m replacing any plugin I have that phones home, requires iLok, or places the burden of keeping it active on the buyer/user. There are so many great options now, from great companies, Kazrog is one, Tokyo Dawn another, klanghelm, Kush, and many I’m forgetting in the moment. It’s satisfying supporting these companies, and more than satisfying walking away from the others no longer relevant. Plus- great sound!
100%< Kazrog is amazing
@@mixbustvI was the exact same. You know I’ve been looking for an Avalon sound. When I saw your face, I was pressing buy at the same time. Lol
thanks so much for the kind words! Enjoy the plug ⚡
@@KazrogPluginsnew to all this but I know I don’t want Ilok authorized plug ins. So this plugin does not require ilok specific authorization? Thanks for bringing Avalon to those of who used the hardware years ago
@@JeffKellyMedia We don't use iLok. 😎
Thank you so much for this video
wow the sound is so nostalgic!! that top end!!!
that's the one! hope you enjoy!
We had a 747sp in our studio and barely used it after a while. The eq definitely shined more than the actual compressor. Kinda overrated, but it had it's uses. I'm not missing it enough to buy it in plugin form, even though I'm sure Kazrog nailed it. 😂
Dayum!!! Just copped; excited to try!!
enjoy!
Really impressive plugin!
thanks, hope you dig it!
Oh gosh, that is really impressive. I'm very tempted to get it after hearing this demo.
hope you dig it, thanks for checking it out!
I'm getting nice results already. That treble end is really nice, and the compressor is subtle but efficient. @@KazrogPlugins
glad to hear it, thanks!@@dat_chip
This mix sounds so good 💯💪🏽
I just bought a UAD apollo, basically for the avalon so using the kazroq demo its pretty solid adds instant thickness, and a little percussive in nature whats not a bad thing. If they make 1073 cone that would be a nice versatile alternative, then of course a 76 and la2a then your 90% of all thats needed everything else is stock plugins is fine for multiband eq or what not.
Finally Someone got that Avalon Top end right itb! I eidnt wanna get the 737 uad because im already using the 73 and that takes like a whole DSP Chip
thanks so much!
Its fire the eq top is crazy and the side chain
I have the Hardware Unit and the is better for me but for a Plugin is a good choice. The tube from Hardware is more warmer and the eq is better.
I love Kclip and now this baby come out Good Job !!!
Thank you, David. Finally I'm understanding the side-chain on this. I have a couple questions. 1) What is the purpose of the threshold going below zero? Does this do expansion below zero? 2) I'm kind of getting that this is not a "channel strip" like the 737 since it has no pre-amp stage? So you would use this after printing the vocal/track clean through a pre-amp of some kind. 3) Is this mainly intended for bus application or for mastering rather than individual channels?
Thanks David for another great video!
The threshold going below zero allows you to avoid the compressor the be triggered by the respective frequency (range) controlled by that threshold knob.
It does: you have a gain, you have a +10, you have the tube signal path.
You can use it on 2bus or single tracks, that's the beauty of being a plugin as opposed to have one unit (unless you could afford 4 of them back then) and in that case the most common use was 2bus or a group
Just seeing the Avalon alone... Plugin purchased.... lol
Thank you David... This is why I stay subbed to you.... EDIT Purchased and done... I have been LOOKING for this..... UAD can now Truly kick rocks.. lol
hope you dig it!
@@KazrogPlugins Cant wait to get started.
@@KazrogPlugins I want the KClip next.. how long will it be on sale? Will it be there on sale still on Friday?
yes, still on sale then @@djsilent01
Amazing!
I bought and holy cow does it make a difference. Like a cheat code for your master mix and has a lot of good presets
thanks for the kind words! Enjoy ⚡
Hey man great vid 1 question tho is there any vst except uad which emulate’s manley Voxbox or 373 from avalon ?
This is golden though, especially using this with nebula, for the fact that the unit is not even available anymore
ooh my baby The Avalon 💯🔥 i was lucky to get the real thing used year's ago. But this can provide so much flexibility. I luv this
thanks!
I own a vt737sp black face edition and I know a lot of people don’t like that unit but I love it. I’m gonna see how this plugin stacks up against my 737sp
The 737 was always a great unit, not the most versatile but still.
@@mixbustvI use it only for tracking my vocals. I’ve recently purchased the AKG c414 XLs and it’s a perfect marriage so far. They always say that the 737 and 747 was great on R&B vocals is why I bought it
If you are doing RnB vocals, unless you are using a 1073, there is no reason that you should not use this plugin. It is THE sound. 737/747 is going to be the sound for your vocals in RnB. Especially Mid to Slow tempo.
@@djsilent01 I have the hardware unit so I kinda don’t need the plugin
Damn that Top End brought that magic in a few moves
that's the one! thanks!
I was blown away by True Iron. This is pretty crazy.
nice summation of this plug! might want to pick a vocal that's been edited for intonation next time though
Plugin was so good I had to buy the real unit 😂 last one on Reverb, too
no way, that's awesome! haha
the video, you uploaded it...WE came
That top end is worth the price alone
she's super smooth up there, enjoy!
Mind Blown 🤯
thanks!
I hope they have because I regretfully had to sell mine in 2015 and I want it back sooo bad but it has literally more than tripled in price for what I sold it for on the second hand market! I feel so stupid for doing this and makes me feel a bit sick to be honest! :( This unit is like magic if you work on EDM stuff. The bottom and top end is just huge! The compressor is super clean, it doesn't really smash the audio if you're looking to crush something because the release is not very aggressive, more suited for just taking a bit off on the master bus but if you really push it you can get a punchy sound that still sounds super clean. I never tried it on a vocal, was mainly just on my master bus. I'm too impatient, I've checked the site like 8 times today already, waiting for it to come up! Please hurry! ..... Still watching your vid and it's very close in sound to the real unit. I just can't wait to try it out without any UA-cam compression to be able to hear the top end properly. I want to hear that bottom and top end on some bass heavy EDM to see what it does! :)
Just tried this thing out and it really is soo close to the real unit!
thanks so much @@djkurtstudio
I’m never selling my vt737sp. Never
Hey brother great videos🔥 You should make a video giving us a tour of your desk, looks like you got some kool hardware there. I have a dual Raven desk with everything in two big heavy racks & thinking of a secondary desk with the layout you have. Thank you for doing what you do.
Thank you. A lot of things are misaing here like my 670 and other stuff but it's something ua-cam.com/video/jbYP8ew6V6U/v-deo.html he
Thx David
Thanks!
Thank you for the support!
They should've just thrown in a dry/wet to top it off.
Hello 👋! Than you Dude. Is this the same EQ as the plug-in of UAD of the Avalon plugin?
I see the difference on the right but on the left?
kazrog is lowkey alien technology.
Fuckin seriously. Their modeling is insane.
It’s insane tbh. That true Iron plugin is unreal.
I put it on damn near everything
@@KeenanCrow yes! I treat true iron like its one of those summing mixing plugin like nsl mixbus from waves. but fuck waves.
@@nathanielbrown8718 yeah I even own NLS and I very much prefer True Iron.
*PLEASE TELL, HOW IS THE LATENCY ON THIS PLUGIN? DOES IT INTRODUCE LATENCY IN ORDER TO FUNCTION PROPERLY?*
go try mastering with Kazrog Avalon 747 & Weiss Deesser, it's game changer for morden vintage music!
Would this work well as a levelling comp in series with a fairchild comp for hip hop vocal chain? I know its a subjective question but just curious about other opinons......
My GOD! AVALON FINALLY ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
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It sounds really great, like all Kazrog products! Do we know how long the intro price is for?
Sorry I don't, it should say on their website tho
no exact cutoff date yet, but it will definitely go for a good while! we want to ensure everyone has the chance to snag this one ⚡
OS10.3 compatible good boys
Shane is the man
I still want a 737 for a frontend, but I can see id be happy with a 747 as a plugin...... Noice..
(Also , the name is based on a beach just North of Sydney, where my Wife grew up... So I guess I've have something from Avalon already... lol)
Bit of Trivia....The Hitech Store I worked at for many years , the first few 737 Avalons we had , had purple knobs.... Wish it had that skin....
I guess, A bit "Apogee", another aussie thing...... Theres an underlying story to that if you look.
I used to live in Avalon on the weekends at my dad's house. Used to surf and skate the avo skate park all the time ha ha
@@gabrielthesingingpilot Saw your profile..
How about "up , up and away, with TAA "
Yeh.. im Old.
@Rhythmattica oh gee I do believe I recall hearing that ad when I was a little kid!! Though " come fly Jetstarrrrr" always comes to mind when I think of airline jingles ha ha
Yes sir 🙌
How does it compare to the UAD 737, I have it and it since incredible
Dear @mixbustv firstly I apologies for being off topic, but there’s none other I can think of asking this, suppose I’m using a Mic Simulator like MicSwap or Mic Room from Ik, also I want the mix to have an analog vibe. In one of videos you’ve said that the tape emulation plug-in should be the first in the audio track chain, but I’m kind of confused about what should I put first on the chain, logically the Mic Emulation comes first, ain’t it sensei?
That video was probably how to emulate a full analog path in the box. It doesn't apply to any other scenario other than that. Mic sim goes 1st
I demoed it for 5 min and had to buy it lmao it's sweet!
thanks!
Nice Video! Love Kazrog plug ins. What sonf is this? Is it released?
Yes, No Sunshine by Melodius
USB
I don’t know if you use tube saturation, and you were mixing, but you need to do a review on Acoustica Audio mystic
In my opinion, that’s the new premier tube plug-in
The HG2 was on the 2bus. Mystic is a plugin version of the Manley Core, not really comparable
The plugin even says "Private Beta for David". How cool is that! :-)
are we compensating the gain ? Didnt see autogain compensation. If the compressor post gain is more after makeup is added it may perceived to be sounding better.
You must be new around here 😆
@@mixbustv more like a comet....what did I miss?
This plugin is in my new go to chain for rap / r&b.
Noise Gate - Autotune - Avalon 747 (Airy Vox Preset) - CLA76 - CLA2A - and an EQ to cut some lows and mids.
The sound i've always been looking for making music just myself in my bedroom.
CLA compressors have aliasing issues. I used the 76 into the 2A for years. Try Klanghelm Mjuc instead
What noise gate are you using?
@@MG-jy5qx Will definitely check it out, I copped the uad comps recently cause of the amazing sales so no more waves lol
@@roninthegoat2810 Just stock noise gate in Logic, sometimes if I want good noise gate I use fab filter gate.
@MG-jy5qx ehh horses for courses. Those plugins are on SO many hit records it's insane. They honestly have their own sound at this point. Are they the best sounding in a 1 on 1 shootout? No of course not. I reach for UAD more often, but simetimes...im so used to "that" sound I use em.
That said not a fan of a specific vocal chain in general, but rather different chains for each individual artist + where/what gear they are recorded
Ypu are my sensei❤
When I saw the price I thought it was just another Avalon interface, but with the reviews I realized that it is indeed possible to produce something cheap and good. Would it be better than UAD?
Yes
So... How does this compare to the 737 UAD Emulation? If I had to choose one...? Thank you for the awesome demonstration... Oh okay so this is more for mastering.
The hardware units were very similar in design, besides the obvious differences, one mono, one stereo, graphic eq vs parametric etc.. I don't know how the UAD sounds but this is a no brainer, one of the best top end in the plugin realm
@@mixbustv okay thank you going to definitely get it. So you’d put this in a mastering chain
Instant buy
thanks so much!
Me too.. didnt even wait.... lol
I gotta say, I downloaded the trial. It's good, but I'm by no means blown away. I can get the same results elsewhere.
As soon as I Saw Kazrog 😎
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Is that last dancehall track released? I've been wanting to hear that whole tune for so long! Who is the artist??
Artist is called Levysill and no unfortunately is not released yet, the whole album is amazing
@@mixbustv 😩
How's the latency and CPU hit...wondering about use in a live mixing situation.
This will obviously depend on your CPU, but in general this plugin is designed to be used on many tracks and buses without incident. In a 48 kHz session, the plugin will introduce only 31 samples of latency at 2x oversampling. If you need zero latency, you can disable oversampling, but for this plugin I'd definitely recommend using 2x or higher.
That's fantastic, thank you! @@KazrogPlugins
Is ”3D luxury” the best phrase to describe that top end? Cant think of anything else.
That sidechain approach is not very intuitive. You would think that turning it up into positive territory would make the compressor react more to the frequency, except here it's the reverse. In fact what's happening is you are raising the threshold at the frequency effectively taking it out of the detection circuit.