Arena Scoring Calculator: www.arcticsilverfox.com/score_calc/ Twitter: twitter.com/ConnerZac_ Discord: discord.gg/5n6JH3x3Cw I accidentally uploaded this video with the wrong title, so sorry to those of you who thought this was iceberg part 3 lol
Thank you for breaking it down, even as a FEH veteran I still don’t entirely understand what I need to do to score well sometimes. Why is is so overly complicated??
This was like watching an actual college lecture. Pretty helpful and easy to understand though. Scoring is sometimes a little difficult for me since I hardly do any summoning (I mostly like collecting my favorite units than the meta). Most of my legendaries either have one or no merges at all.
Thank you for this! You did a great job explaining all the mechanics… this is some crazy shit IS put together haha. I really really liked the Is It Optimal? part of the video to tie it all together.
Shiny border C Skills aren't the only 300 SP C Skills, there are some gold border C Skills that are 300 SP regardless, likely because of their rarity. I don't know any other than the Save Skills though, so it might just be them Also, you listed the inheritable specials as the only max scoring specials, but didn't mention the uninheritable specials
One the biggest problems is that people will do their arena run with 758 team but when put their team down to like 740 so no one else can get scores that high. It becomes pointless running arena with 758 team if all it can find is a 748 team.
Pair up units and harmonized heroes work exactly as the video shows, their effects are irrelevant to your score. However, duo units have a standard effect that usually makes the unit score higher; for example, the recently released duo Askr has the effect of treating the unit’s stats as 200, therefore, they now score like a unit with 200 total stats (and not 180)
If you have a high-scoring bonus unit, does having merges on that unit matter? If I'm choosing between a max-scoring Alphonse (no merges obv) and a max-scoring +10 unit, will they both affect my score the same?
Don't the Breath SS skills score as 300SP skills like their A slot counterparts? Good video, btw, despite play this game since the beginning I still didn't know all this stuff, I just went unga-bunga caveman brain.
Breath skills are 240 SP, even the A skill versions. Id be surprised if they ever added a 300 SP seal just because of arena scoring lol. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Good explanation on the scoring topic I must say :) But I have a question: Let's assume I have made good scoring team. Some highly merged Legendary Hero, Balthus, Yen'fay and one of the Askr trio. With skills like Rally+, Harsh Commans+, Joint Drive Attack and so on... I know this team is optimal in terms of scoring but is this team optimal in terms of gameplay? If I go into this hell called high tier Arena and meet someone with +10 merged Fallen Edelgard, or Happi (every time I face her I have really hard time), can I really go and beat such obstacle with my bunch of F2P misfits without sitting one hour with some online calculator and then screwing up, because I forgot about Yuri weapon effect? I ask this as rather low tier Arena player. Plus I really do like strats utilizing movement assist skills - which are not optimal for scoring.
"Let's make Arena scoring hard to understand and very hard to score high. But let's give shitty rewards so there is no incentive to either understand the rules nor to invest into units." - Master Japanese Game Designer or someone
Optimal title for this video is "Why I stopped caring about arena". Seriously, all the hassle it's not worth it! The rewards are a joke (thank goodness, that way I can do the 5 runs per week and forget about it), it also kills build diversity and strategy, punishing players for using actually good assist and specials is bad game design. I must say, it was a great explanation nonetheless!
Yes, a +10 scores better than an unmerge legendary. The number of merges you need on a legendary for it to be better than another +10 depends on which legendary it is, so I'd check with an arena calculator online.
Nope, this is a common misconception, the BST boosting effect that legendaries have only applies to the legendary unit itself. Every legendary boosts their appropriately blessed allies's score by the same amount.
Having a 300 SP A B and C skill makes it so you have SO much total SP that your score gets bumped up. So for example, a 180 BST unit with a 300 SP A B and C skill, would score the same as a normal 185 BST unit. Hope this helps!
Good question, inheritable weapons do need to be refined for optimal scoring since the refined version costs more SP, meaning you would lose score for using unrefinable weapons like brave weapons. However, uninheritable unique weapons with a weapon refine cost the same amount of SP as uninheritable unique weapons that aren't refined.
@@fybso3057 Correct, he would miss out on some score. You still technically could use it if youre ok with taking a hit to your score, which might make your arena runs easier, but might make it take longer to find high scoring matches.
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I accidentally uploaded this video with the wrong title, so sorry to those of you who thought this was iceberg part 3 lol
Thank you for breaking it down, even as a FEH veteran I still don’t entirely understand what I need to do to score well sometimes. Why is is so overly complicated??
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This was like watching an actual college lecture. Pretty helpful and easy to understand though. Scoring is sometimes a little difficult for me since I hardly do any summoning (I mostly like collecting my favorite units than the meta). Most of my legendaries either have one or no merges at all.
i loved that “IS IT OPTIMAL?!” segment. now i will become the greatest summoner with my 3 +10 Duo Dagrs and +10 LSigurd
Yes!!!!, I no longer have to get my Masters in Arena Scoring and can focus on my Masters in Aether Raids Defense and Offense Scoring. Thank you🙏
A Deep Dive into the Fire Emblem Heroes Iceberg! I love that video, and it's getting a remake!
Strong agree
The sheer energy behind IS IT OPTIMAL gives me life. That segment was fucking hilarious
Thank you for this! You did a great job explaining all the mechanics… this is some crazy shit IS put together haha.
I really really liked the Is It Optimal? part of the video to tie it all together.
this video is super fun and helpful at the same time, thank you ConnerZac UA-cam Channel!
Amazing vid
saved my life thanks king 🙏
Shiny border C Skills aren't the only 300 SP C Skills, there are some gold border C Skills that are 300 SP regardless, likely because of their rarity. I don't know any other than the Save Skills though, so it might just be them
Also, you listed the inheritable specials as the only max scoring specials, but didn't mention the uninheritable specials
GUYS HE DID IT HE UPLOADED THE THING
I failed Algebra 2 and yet I can understand this without issue ConnerZac is a legend
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This helped A LOT
This video is fire but I was a little confused by the title lmao
Yeah that was an oopsie lol forgot to change the title from what it was on by default. Glad you enjoyed tho!
I got a crown in arena when they first added crowns and never played it since. I just wanted feh to have a crown on the home screen
To Change fate!!
If you know what I am saying, you know.
Yes.
One the biggest problems is that people will do their arena run with 758 team but when put their team down to like 740 so no one else can get scores that high. It becomes pointless running arena with 758 team if all it can find is a 748 team.
How do pair up units and units with duo skills and harmonized skills influence Arena?
Pair up units and harmonized heroes work exactly as the video shows, their effects are irrelevant to your score. However, duo units have a standard effect that usually makes the unit score higher; for example, the recently released duo Askr has the effect of treating the unit’s stats as 200, therefore, they now score like a unit with 200 total stats (and not 180)
If you have a high-scoring bonus unit, does having merges on that unit matter? If I'm choosing between a max-scoring Alphonse (no merges obv) and a max-scoring +10 unit, will they both affect my score the same?
Aether raids scoring next? 👀👀
Don't the Breath SS skills score as 300SP skills like their A slot counterparts? Good video, btw, despite play this game since the beginning I still didn't know all this stuff, I just went unga-bunga caveman brain.
Breath skills are 240 SP, even the A skill versions. Id be surprised if they ever added a 300 SP seal just because of arena scoring lol. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@connerzac !! I always thought they were 300! Damn I'm oblivious!
Good explanation on the scoring topic I must say :)
But I have a question:
Let's assume I have made good scoring team. Some highly merged Legendary Hero, Balthus, Yen'fay and one of the Askr trio. With skills like Rally+, Harsh Commans+, Joint Drive Attack and so on... I know this team is optimal in terms of scoring but is this team optimal in terms of gameplay?
If I go into this hell called high tier Arena and meet someone with +10 merged Fallen Edelgard, or Happi (every time I face her I have really hard time), can I really go and beat such obstacle with my bunch of F2P misfits without sitting one hour with some online calculator and then screwing up, because I forgot about Yuri weapon effect?
I ask this as rather low tier Arena player. Plus I really do like strats utilizing movement assist skills - which are not optimal for scoring.
"Let's make Arena scoring hard to understand and very hard to score high. But let's give shitty rewards so there is no incentive to either understand the rules nor to invest into units." - Master Japanese Game Designer or someone
Boosts damage by 50% of unit's Res.
Optimal title for this video is "Why I stopped caring about arena".
Seriously, all the hassle it's not worth it! The rewards are a joke (thank goodness, that way I can do the 5 runs per week and forget about it), it also kills build diversity and strategy, punishing players for using actually good assist and specials is bad game design.
I must say, it was a great explanation nonetheless!
which legendary hero for each element is worth getting to +10 tho?
Is a third +10 unit better then an unmerged legendary? Both with optimal load outs
Yes, a +10 scores better than an unmerge legendary. The number of merges you need on a legendary for it to be better than another +10 depends on which legendary it is, so I'd check with an arena calculator online.
Is this the start of Vyland arena gaming?
YESSIRRRR!!!
I thought the legendaries with duell abilities also give every blessed a bst boost
Nope, this is a common misconception, the BST boosting effect that legendaries have only applies to the legendary unit itself. Every legendary boosts their appropriately blessed allies's score by the same amount.
@@connerzac wow i got scammed
I'm still quite confused as to why you need both an A and C skill to be 300 SP when your B skill is 300 SP.
Having a 300 SP A B and C skill makes it so you have SO much total SP that your score gets bumped up. So for example, a 180 BST unit with a 300 SP A B and C skill, would score the same as a normal 185 BST unit. Hope this helps!
@@connerzac That makes a lot of sense!! Thank you :D
Do all units in arena assault need to be maxed out?
Only the first team, you can start with your arena team for that and then after that just best units
Do weapon refinement bring yo more score than unrefined?
Good question, inheritable weapons do need to be refined for optimal scoring since the refined version costs more SP, meaning you would lose score for using unrefinable weapons like brave weapons. However, uninheritable unique weapons with a weapon refine cost the same amount of SP as uninheritable unique weapons that aren't refined.
@@connerzac so I can't use Balthus with a brave axe+ for example?
@@fybso3057 Correct, he would miss out on some score. You still technically could use it if youre ok with taking a hit to your score, which might make your arena runs easier, but might make it take longer to find high scoring matches.
@@connerzac oh man, i was really planing something there
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Its not a very good system when it gets so complicated even long time players dont trully understand it. You had to do a 9 min video to explain it.
WOW this makes NO SENSE lol
I hate this videogame sometimes