I see your reasoning: 1. For the bind/split and icebox/breeze phantom and vandal assignments, it's because bind and split give you more opportunities of close range fights boosting the potential of phantom, while icebox and breeze allow mostly long range fights and such angles which are suitable for vandal users. 2. And for the rest of the maps the attackers and defenders classification is inspired from CS. 3. The duelist for vandal thing is probably because they need to get frags ASAP and vandal sure shot guarantees 1 tap kills on hs. The only thing which I didn't get is why phantom for controller.
im radiant on NA, EU(main) and around top 600 peak APAC. i coach friends / friends of friends for free, so i have to be well informed on just about everything, including the statistical benefits and differences in guns the phantom is vastly superior despite being statistically balanced, its not even close. you can cope that the phantoms just played better or whatever, but a reoccuring theme throughout the video is that the phantom enabled these players to do more. to have a brief blanket statement, riot intentionally lowered valorants gunplay ceiling with random recoil and the atrocious first bullet inaccuracy multipliers. the phantom effectively raises the skill ceiling of the gunplay enabling a player to do more. that was the diff in this game. the phantom - resets recoil quicker - does not have tracers (allows you to spam smokes, obviously) - the silencer actually functions relatively well in game - has tigher recoil spray despite still being random - is noticably more accurate, especially at range as compared to the vandal the only con is that it deals 140 at range boo hoo. wtf can a vandal do close range against a phantom just running and spraying, nothing what can a vandal do against a phantom spraying through smoke, nothing the vandal is consistently the worst choice no matter the map and the only reason the majority pick it is because they have piss poor mental when the phantom fails you, its right there telling you that you hit someone for 140 when the vandal fails you, you dont know if you missed because of yourself or because of the vandals abyssmal accuracy that is the only reason people play vandal over phantom and its sad
One reason also I think people prefer the vandal over the phantom is getting onetaps feels better. Also, some people feel like the phantom is worse just because pro players and radiants use it less. The phantom is also seen as a "noob" weapon by a lot of people because you need to spray with it a lot of times, while the vandal rewards burst fire and single taps. Just like how you don't see enough people abusing odin even tho it's factually broken as a weapon. People don't want to be "the guy who abuses odin", and it doesn't feel as earned as killing someone with a vandal one tap.
@@badsky4196 lmao that was me, when someone is observing a game and spectating, when you flick, the observer doesn’t pick it up very well so a lot of spectated shots look weird haha
I am trying to main phantom since a while now, loved how they played on both maps. Especially, LPthebacon, Zerozinga i've been watching them since a few vids and i like their playstyle and always supportive of their gameplay lol and super did just amazing to simply say it that way!
First round was the biggest controller diff I've ever seen. Brim had lineups and was playing off his smokes so well while clove was smoking for the other team.
I think it would be better if you left everything the same for the second game, but switched the guns. Meaning: people who played with the phantom now play vandal, etc. This would minimize the player skill influence and we would see clearer if its the team or the gun
The problem with this is that the phantom players probably don't use the vandal nearly as well and vice versa. And considering the vandal is much easier to pick up for the phantom team than the opposite, the vandal players (now with phantoms) will lose even harder
you can only do it in custom games with tournament mode on you have to be a spectator you can choose either watch the game as a ghost or any players pov or just hop on a custom game alone allow cheats and activate ghost mode and follow the molly or any line up
Even Tenz once said that the phantom is just more consistent. Valorant players are just too addicted to hitting those crazy one taps that they hit 10% of the time. If they're cracked.
idk if it was just me but the clove in the first game had some really weird smokes, smokes for the other team honestly. then again I have no clue if thats some radiant tactic I dont know lol
Watching this unrated rather than studying for physics which is tomorrow
no biology test tomorrow
@@m_hq1080 nope physics
Wtf why r u right?
fr i have physics exam tomorrow as well xd
Same..
this super guy is kinda goated
He's adressing the boosted allegations from a previous vid with this performance.
@kleinsparky you do know super commented this right
phantoms had better coordination and comms
Vandel playing scared
they were locked tf in
was the phantom jett for both games, it was fun ty
you are cracked dude
you should open a channel your clips will be famous
he has 1 video from 5 months ago@@nyquilioustheviii6328
Cooked them frauds vandels
Wie lange spielst du schon?
Renterreflexe top Name 😂
Bind/Split Phantom >>>
Icebox/Breeze Vandal >>>
For rest of the maps -
if duelist/attack, Vandal >
if controller/defence, Phantom >
Bro woke up today and decided to spit fax 🔥🗣️
I see your reasoning:
1. For the bind/split and icebox/breeze phantom and vandal assignments, it's because bind and split give you more opportunities of close range fights boosting the potential of phantom, while icebox and breeze allow mostly long range fights and such angles which are suitable for vandal users.
2. And for the rest of the maps the attackers and defenders classification is inspired from CS.
3. The duelist for vandal thing is probably because they need to get frags ASAP and vandal sure shot guarantees 1 tap kills on hs.
The only thing which I didn't get is why phantom for controller.
@@acoder22 to spray smokes without tracers
@@rv.arcporeon3187 oh yeah forgot about the bullet tracers diff
im radiant on NA, EU(main) and around top 600 peak APAC. i coach friends / friends of friends for free, so i have to be well informed on just about everything, including the statistical benefits and differences in guns
the phantom is vastly superior despite being statistically balanced, its not even close. you can cope that the phantoms just played better or whatever, but a reoccuring theme throughout the video is that the phantom enabled these players to do more.
to have a brief blanket statement, riot intentionally lowered valorants gunplay ceiling with random recoil and the atrocious first bullet inaccuracy multipliers. the phantom effectively raises the skill ceiling of the gunplay enabling a player to do more. that was the diff in this game.
the phantom
- resets recoil quicker
- does not have tracers (allows you to spam smokes, obviously)
- the silencer actually functions relatively well in game
- has tigher recoil spray despite still being random
- is noticably more accurate, especially at range as compared to the vandal
the only con is that it deals 140 at range
boo hoo.
wtf can a vandal do close range against a phantom just running and spraying, nothing
what can a vandal do against a phantom spraying through smoke, nothing
the vandal is consistently the worst choice no matter the map and the only reason the majority pick it is because they have piss poor mental
when the phantom fails you, its right there telling you that you hit someone for 140
when the vandal fails you, you dont know if you missed because of yourself or because of the vandals abyssmal accuracy
that is the only reason people play vandal over phantom and its sad
Bro got the yapper title irl
@VarzaHD he's right tho.
One reason also I think people prefer the vandal over the phantom is getting onetaps feels better.
Also, some people feel like the phantom is worse just because pro players and radiants use it less. The phantom is also seen as a "noob" weapon by a lot of people because you need to spray with it a lot of times, while the vandal rewards burst fire and single taps.
Just like how you don't see enough people abusing odin even tho it's factually broken as a weapon. People don't want to be "the guy who abuses odin", and it doesn't feel as earned as killing someone with a vandal one tap.
@@RealityBased never said he was right or wrong man I personally agree with him just talking shit its all love
I tried my best 😅 (I was the chamber)
W
NICE TRY, TEAM DIFF
W bro
You only lost bcos of super(reyna) 😂
@@Lizayeaa ❤️
Haveing super and LPbacon on same team is unfair lol. Amazing video
You should do 5 sentinels vs 5 initiators I feel like that’d be pretty chaotic but entertaining
15:51 nah what was that hit
@@badsky4196 lmao that was me, when someone is observing a game and spectating, when you flick, the observer doesn’t pick it up very well so a lot of spectated shots look weird haha
new idea? normal game but place a toxic teammate will it affect the team?
Video idea: console valorant Xbox VS PlayStation
do a phantom vs vandals low elo version ( i volunteer for the phantoms)
Both match the score was 9-3 but phantom won both
therefore,proved that there is nothing like 9-3 curse
The curse is only for vandal players. Phantom players are too strong to be affected by mere witchcraft.
@@lucasmitchell9027 That sounds good but, what happens if a team has bth vandal and phantom players?
I am trying to main phantom since a while now, loved how they played on both maps. Especially, LPthebacon, Zerozinga i've been watching them since a few vids and i like their playstyle and always supportive of their gameplay lol and super did just amazing to simply say it that way!
@@Zer0Zinga ZINGAAAAA, and i see lol i mean you still got those skills to execute stuff at right time!!
First round was the biggest controller diff I've ever seen. Brim had lineups and was playing off his smokes so well while clove was smoking for the other team.
DANG THE COMMENTARY REALLY POPPED OFF
sayonara cheated. he used phantom 18:36
You should run this back now with the recent phantom buffs
When I realised that LPthebacon was in the phantoms team, I knew it was over for the vandals 😂
watching radiants play is a whole other experience man.....
I think it would be better if you left everything the same for the second game, but switched the guns. Meaning: people who played with the phantom now play vandal, etc. This would minimize the player skill influence and we would see clearer if its the team or the gun
The problem with this is that the phantom players probably don't use the vandal nearly as well and vice versa. And considering the vandal is much easier to pick up for the phantom team than the opposite, the vandal players (now with phantoms) will lose even harder
Defenders on phantom vs attackers on vandal then swap and counting rounds won might be interesting. (If Val had borrowed more from CS)
Do a frenzy and stinger radiant vs all ranks plz
10:41 how did he change perspective of spectator mod to follow the brim molly?
IF any one knows how to do it please tell me
you can only do it in custom games with tournament mode on you have to be a spectator you can choose either watch the game as a ghost or any players pov
or just hop on a custom game alone allow cheats and activate ghost mode and follow the molly or any line up
Whats jetts crosshair? ( the one on phantom team)
Can you do it again with different vandal team cus what was that aim T-T
having the high ping sova was unfair ngl.
the sova still had his rounds tho
playing against immo/rads at 150 and still managing to get a decent number of kills is commendable
@@nyquilioustheviii6328 lol that was me XD i really wanted to participate in the video. I''m confused but what he means by it was unfair though?
Remove the background music it is annoying
Agreed
Agree
Agree
Even Tenz once said that the phantom is just more consistent. Valorant players are just too addicted to hitting those crazy one taps that they hit 10% of the time. If they're cracked.
First and i love you so much ❤❤❤
i think the phantom players were much better, should have tried reversing the guns for the same team on bind
Crazy game
kkk my friend is vandal main and he is really quite when i share this clip to him
The one time you buy phantom just to head dink🥲
idk if it was just me but the clove in the first game had some really weird smokes, smokes for the other team honestly. then again I have no clue if thats some radiant tactic I dont know lol
Are you silver?
clove was probably a reyna main 💀
it is a radiant tactic. Since there are so many angles on bind, smoking super far out lets them walk out easier
@@xCyberSpace oh yeah I get those, I meant tactics like smoking the spike when playing post plant. How is that beneficial to the attacker?
@@mooshroomn3517 idk actually prob he doesnt play smokes like he said
FOR GODS SAKE ITS ALL ABOUT PREFERENCE
this just proves phantom is better tbh, if u master the phantom u more then likely have better aim
You also learn how to do stuff like recoil control much better. The vandal for most people is just a glorified guardian.
@lucasmitchell9027 it's more the other way around guardian is alot more accurate then vandal it don't got the first bullet inaccuracy thing
spaghettihoops carried lol. unlucky he had to carry dead weight
Lol, Thank you but everyone has bad games some times, my team just had an unfortunate game.
i guess am main phantom now
This is just a team diff.
swap the guns give phantom to the vandal team and vice versa
sage so clearly boosted KEKW
Well the phantoms were just better team and players, the vandals had only 2 good players, the other 3 were just bot fragging
If it’s not a BO3 then it doesn’t mean anything. Fluke games happen
It was a Bo3. They lost 2 games in a row.
i love you bro
Bro their playing on bind ofc fantom is better
Both teams chose bind.
Next game was lotus and they got stomped again.
Watch the entire video.
Can lp dont be in every video
Bro i can easily lose 5-0 to valorant curios its sp easy to lose
Team diff not gun
Phantom mains just played as a team better
I feel like the vandal players just were tilted and that why the started no comming.
The phantom players literally did the minimum comms necessary.
yo
Yeah vandal players got cooked.. Kinda sad to watch ngl
this guys video ideas are so good its just a shame he does this weird creepy commentary, I assume its a character that he really needs to pack away
What's "creepy" about his commentary ?
This is just CSGO if you think about it
Nah, i’d win
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Vandals had a girl in the team
Lets say the truth vandal lost bec they had a girl on the team while on the other team there is lp and super