No OP should not move back home. 1:OP dad deliberately did this to himself. 2: and he's suffering the consequences of his actions. 3: this is just a ploy to get grandpa off his back. 4: if he did not want this to happen then he should not have took advantage of his own parent and child.
@@Jaybei420 Also, if Dad demanded rent once the OP turned 18, now that there's a baby OP might be forced to babysit for free instead of having enough time to study.
The gall of OPs dad to charge his teenager rent while mooching off his dad his entire adult life🤣🤣🤣. I hope OP doesn't move back in because they will resent her for their lack of space and for Grandpa choosing her and not dad and his do-over family
Grandpa is still being extremely generous with the $1200/mo rent. OP didn't mention anyone sharing a room so we can safely assume they live in a 6 bedroom (2 offices, master, & 3 kids) house, aka a friggin huuuuge possibly a mcmansion. $1200 is dirt cheap for a house that big. If they were all working adults they would only be paying $200 each that's practically free.
@@bhart3321 I think the $1200/mo rent is the OP's current rent, not the rent for the dad's house. So the punishment is super lenient, dad is still not paying rent for his house.
Grandpa has provided for his family and Dad decided to scam and boot out his old family for his redo family. Grandpa is just teaching him a lesson he needed.
I would be playing dumb with dad. I'd tell him "Sorry dad, I wouldn't want to take that room you need so much for the baby, and I really like not having to pay rent to grandpa, it's such a help given my status as both student and part time worker. Sorry dad, but it isn't feasible for both of us, but we can always visit with each other!"
Grandparents are the legit MVPs. Mom was Too. Dad has everything he needs and still charges his daughter rent, while freezing her out and going low contact for six months. What a terrible father.
so, Dad can't support himself, charges daughter a significant rent, to subsidize his life. They also have her doing "chores" (who wants to bet she was doing a majority of the chores), and then kicks her out. OP doesn't think it was an "evil stepmom" issue, but she is treated poorly when grandpa gets involved. Oh, honey, it is most certainly an evil stepmom issue. 100 percent. Grandpa rocks. He even set up an educational fund for the step sister, that is one stand up guy. Grandpa is teaching dad a, long overdue, lesson. If OP had moved back she would have been the built in, default, babysitter and maid. She is better off staying where she is. If dad can't resume a decent relationship she is well rid of him.
Wow, charging his daughter to live in a place that he doesn't even own shows that his morals aren't in the gutter, they're in the waste treatment plant! Don't have Grandpa let up on him and continue living in your own place. Be happy, OP.
This reminds me of a friend who sold her house and moved in with her new husband, who was the warden of a state prison. His house was right next to the prison, outside the walls but part of the property. He "split" the rent with her for years. Then when he retired she was helping him with the out processing paperwork and found out the house was part of his compensation package while he ran the prison. Rent free. 😠
@@TheDanniExperience No. They're separated, but not divorced. Frustrating. He's such a dirtbag, ran an entire prison for over a decade but somehow can't get it together to run errands. One time after separation, she was in the hospital and he came up to "help". Took care of the dogs for a few days, then left - and left the wrong key for me, dogs locked in the house, AC off and on a 90+ degree day. I had to get a locksmith so her dogs wouldn't die in the heat. Pretty sure it was an intentional oops to get back at her but still seem like the good guy.
@@DaryleBrownWhat a monster! 🤬 I knew a guy who is a corrections officer at a high-security prison. He's a self-proclained Sociopath. It makes you wonder if they're all like that. 🤔
Ok thank you. it kinda of annoys me when they explain why they are using a throwaway. It seems like it would make it easier for the people in their life to put two and two together.
@@jr5557I think the main reason people clarify is because people sometimes use the fact an account is new as “proof” that a story is fake. Making a new account for a post about something private and/or embarrassing makes perfect sense to me, but I guess some find it suspicious.
The reason people mention that they are using a throwaway is because if they DON'T, Redditers will accuse them of trying to hide their main account in order to "misrepresent" (or LIE) about details in order to make themselves seem innocent or their actions (which are often bad) _justified._ Having a brand new account while posting in *AITA* or *Relationship Advice* is IMMEDIATELY viewed with suspicion in the Reddit community by many. Lots of people tend to make random posts about their lives which have the (often unintended effect) of revealing what type of person they are. Redditers tend to use an OP's past post history to gauge their character in order to determine whether or not they "deserve" to be deemed the "@$$hole", for their actions or whether this was just a one off incident and they were simply reacting to being provoked in this situation. If their post history shows that they have a habit of just being an awful person, then they will get called out. Or sometimes, Redditers will discover lies in their post due to contradictions in their post history, etc. As a result of this, some OP's will use a throwaway to try to hide their post history for this very reason, so that they can't be judged based on their past actions. There are also people who use throwaway because they have friends/family who know of and lurk on their main profile.
Yeah, Reddit’s weird though (shocking, I know lol). Making a throwaway account for something private makes complete sense, but a lot of people will use a new account’s age as “proof” the story is fake. That makes some posters feel like they need to explain why their account is new, even though, in my opinion, it should be pretty f-ing obvious why someone would want to create a new account so their “My boyfriend wants me to clean him like a cat” post isn’t connected to the account that their friends & family know.
Step sis needs the truth, so dad doesn't try to pull the same crap on her. The man is greedy and entitled and is not above sacrificing others for what he wants.
I kind of wonder if the wife would allow it, since that's HER daughter. She may have been fine with charging OP rent. She may have even been the one to suggest it! But I doubt she would do it to her own children.
It’s so sad that all OP wants is a relationship with his/her dad and he just, couldn’t care less. More often than not it is really children who love their parents unconditionally and some parents will take advantage of that at every opportunity and it breaks my heart to see.
s1: i spent my childhood in a home i never felt welcome in and had money hung over my head for that entire time and more. what helped was getting away, establishing myself, learning to be comfortable living alone. OP needs that too. she can visit, she can offer to babysit, she can even take walks with them - but moving back is only going to make dad backslide into resentment. ESPECIALLY when he finds out grandpa is still gonna charge him $1200/mo for the bs he put OP through.
I could understand if the family was genuinely struggling like it's super cramped and the parents were working to the bone to keep afloat. Not this lazy excuse though
How do you live rent free in your dad's house and try to charge your daughter rent to live IN THAT SAME HOUSE the moment she turns 18? What the fuck is wrong with OP's dad?
I think the biggest thing that blows me away is the Grandpa is still subsidizing the dad in story 1. He's only making the dad pay the rate on OP's $1,200 apartment. Dad's house sounds big...2 offices, OP's old room, Stepsister's room and (presumably) the master bedroom. Even the worst parts of the US you're not getting a 5 bed home for $1,200 per month.
6 bedrooms so probably a mcmansion. $1200 is grandpa still being extremely generous & dad is a right tw*t to be mooching like he is. They apparently couldn't afford the two kids they already had so why on earth would they add two more. Moreover why wasn't stepmom working full-time, plenty of stuff she can do from home especially since covid made remote work more feasible option.
Wow. W grandpa!. To set up a college fund for a step sibling that has no relation to him because he didn't want her to feel left out? Dude is Mr. Rogers
Story 1: i can see a situation where the idea for rent belonged to Step-mom, wherein dad only followed along because he didnt tell wifey the truth of their financial situation
Dad not answering why he kicked OP out means one of two things and both are awful. Either he really doesn’t have an explanation and decided to nuke his relationship with his daughter and parents over nothing, or he does have a reason but it’s too heinous to put into words and there’s no way he can give it without looking like a complete AH.
Story 1 Step mom is the evil person behind this. Her mother is there to help with the baby. Is she ever going to leave? Dad is probably caving to keep her happy. And yes, he is a jerk.
Where does daddy get off, trying to charge his own daughter rent for a house he doesn't even own??? Also I'm surprised no one else brought this up: daddy's mad he lost his unpaid housemaid, and wants a free babysitter. I'm so glad OP didn't move back in.
Even though OP doesn't mention the step mom much, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why the dad is mildly neglectful & manipulating money out of OP is due to his 2nd wife. It's unfortunately not unheard of for a parent to treat their child like crap to prove their loyalty to the new spouse/ family, smh.
Grandpa is an absolute legend (as is the aunt and cousin and grandma). I suspect if you scratch below the surface of OP and stepmom’s relationship you’ll find that stepmother has hated her all along.
Story 1: I'm thinking that something obvious is being missed here... New baby, Grandma is being "annoying" while helping... OP would be such a good babysitter if she'd only move back in and dedicate herself to taking care of the baby... >:-(
What i don’t get is like…according to Op, she and stepmom got along fine, and she actually LIKES her stepsister…WHY did Dad wana get rid of her? Was it just because she reminded him of his old wife? Idk, he messed around and found out
Dad is an idiot of epic proportions. He doesn't own his home & his dad has been helping them with expenses for years. You can't afford the kids you got so why in the bloody hell would you add 2 more & have a stay at home wife, she needs to get a job something she can do from home & actually put that office of hers to use. All of this could've been avoided if dad & stepmom hadn't taken advantage of his daughter & grandpa's generosity. Common sense, don't bite the hand that feeds you and definitely don't live beyond your means & then mooch off others.
You know that old saying “can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. Well, in this case, you can’t teach an old selfish asshole how to pay money back. Grampa is what you call “THE GOAT!!” Too bad ‘dear ole dad’ didn’t get any of his kindness, and generosity.
Story 1: Grandpa did good by punishing his deadbeat son for what he did, but I get the distinct feeling that there is a lot of background details that OP isn't being told here about her dad. Oh well, still an alright resolution. Story 2: OP owned that boss, but they should figure out an exit strategy if they haven't left their job already. In my experience, bosses like that who get called out for their BS have a nasty habit of retaliating against the employees who made them look bad. I remember one case where an employee reported their boss for unprofessional behavior, and he was basically stalked around the store by management looking for any reason to get rid of him before he was quickly fired.
Story 2 is why there are such long lines for fast food and other retail. It's already a job that doesn't pay near enough for the work and abuse from customers, but then top that with a manager who loves to use their tiny bit of authority for a power trip. Gross.
Story 1: It's just a big shame that Op got a parent and a step parent like this. It sounds like Op had such a great big sisterly relationship with the step sister, helping with homework and talking about personal things, which is what people only really do if they feel close. But instead of being happy that the kids from previous relationships are getting along, these 'parents' tried their best to make Op feel like less than even second fiddle to the kids they were making together. And even trying to squeeze out rent money from a freshly adult Op when they were living in their mc-mansiony house for free! That just screams 'I wasn't prepared for how much all my kids would cost me, so now I'm trying to get the money needed from my older kids' as if your kids have to be the fall guy for your mistakes. And those 'parent's' definitely don't want Op back in the house because they feel bad about what they did. They definitely want Op back in the house because they think it will get Grandpa off their backs, and they're probably going to try push some of the baby responsibilities onto Op and possibly try to squeeze money out of Op again, only this time with saying 'It's for your little siblings! Don't be greedy!' After update: Aww, grandpa just sounds like the sweetest person. Making a fund for the step-sis even though she isn't his by blood...There's a lot of people who wouldn't do this for family they don't consider theirs. But it also sounds like Op's 'dear ole dad' was taking advantage of grandpa willingness to help family for a LONG time. Not even having any savings when you have 4 kids to take care of?? BRUH. And Op should definitely warn their step-sis about the house not belonging to Dad. Maybe he won't try since step-sis seems to fit with the image of his 'perfect' new family, but you never know how far greed will go, especially after what Dad pulled on Op.
How does the OP not realize that her father doesn’t really care about her? If grandpa wasn’t holding all the strings he would have tossed her out a long time ago.
Story 1: It's obvious that Dad picked his new life with step-mum over his already existing child. Kick-ass Aunt and Grandpa love these people. Don't move back in, studying plus a new baby in the house isn't an ideal combo. Also, I'd be suspicious about sudden babysitting duties if I'd move back in. I'd visit the kids and plan outings with them if that's what they really wanted but I'd be washing my hands of Dad and Step-mum. Wait... This sounds a lot like the first "Knives Out" movie holding family under grandpa's thumb, masked by kindness (just a random thought in my head). Grandpa gave away money with a cost, a secret or not-so-secret price tag and can demand it back anytime. Update: So the OP didn't move back and Dad caved to the new deal. You're better off not living with people who can't manage money. Don't rub your dad's situation in his face. Dad sounds like a narc, why he does what he does, he doesn't know.
Op is not "dumb" for not knowing earlier, who would think their adult father could not pay any of his own bills. She is incredibly naive if she falls for anymore of her fathers attempts to make up, but it seems she can see through him now. That guy is such an AH
story 1: Hard to say what came first, the chicken or the egg in regards to OP's dad and how he treated her, but it sounds like he sold his soul to a Demon in the Sack and the Stepmom is one HELL of a covert narc/enabler.
S1: I don't understand why step mom couldn't turn her private office into a room for the new baby. Or move OP into that room & use her room for the new baby. I don't see how someone who is a SATM would need a private office.
Last story.. circa early 90's if you had a logo or name tag on a fast food uniform "knit top" you always had holes. In my five years of ff not one time was I questioned, or written up and instead had my shirts replaced for free. I also think this is why most ff places switched to tshirts instead of knit, because those things ran like cheap pantyhose. I was also never written up for cuffs on pants. It was ff and you were lucky to make your rent, pay for a cheap meal and gas to return to work and they knew it.
OP SHOULD NOT MOVE BACK EVER. STAY SAFE BUT DON'T GO NEAR THE HOUSE OF YOUR STUPID FAMILY KEEP THEM AT A DISSTANCE. BUT KEEP THEM AT THE DISSTANCE U WANT TO.
How long until we hear about how the stepmother was the driving force behind all this? It strikes me as odd that a father, who knows that he lives off the kindness of his dead wife's parents, would decide to kick out his only link to his deceased wife without some prodding from his new wife. I just wonder if the stepmother knew that she was telling her husband to bite the hand that (literally) feeds them. Also, grandpa is a treasure! What a kind man!
I feel like im different than most if my father had kicked me out and then became hostile to me i wouldnt miss him and be upset that he didnt contact me.
S1: OP “throwaway account, the stuff on my primary account is very private”. Me. You do realise this ‘very private’ stuff is _posted on the internet_ don’t you? 🤦🏼♀️
I had a chief when I was in the navy yelled at me that I was out of uniform because I was not wearing my jacket. I told her that it was in daily orders that jackets were optional and pointed to the copy of the orders pinned behind her. Luckily I had read the orders that morning as I was bored. There was nothing she could do.
Wow! 😳 OP needs to know that greedy A-hole is not her father, he's just a sperm donor. ಠ︵ಠ Leeching of Grandpa and kicking out his own daughter when he had plenty of rooms in the house for the new baby?! I know it's his house, his rules, but seriously, I feel like he was trying to get rid of OP and replace her with this new family. Shame on him! 😡 Grandpa on the other hand is a legend! 💖 Good for him teaching Dad a lesson. And I'm so happy OP is doing well in her new house. 😊
In grandpa's place if OP moved back I'd be laughing and still charge the dad and warn him not to try anything unless wants to get on my bad side. And OP shouldn't move back.
Story 1 - I absolutely hate the entitlement of parents who tell their teenage children that just because they turned 18, they're now an adult and are expected to support themselves or pay rent. I'm glad OP's grandfather had her back. It's a wonder that someone as selfish and greedy as OP's dad came from someone as generous as her grandfather. Dad overplayed his hand, using his oldest child to fund his life with his do-overs. Now with a brand new baby, has to pay back that money he scammed from his kid AND basically OP's rent? Soooooo delicious!
If op misses their siblings they can offer to babysit for free, don’t let it go overboard, do it on your own terms, when you got free time and want to hang out with the kids. Even better if you have weekends free, that way they can stay over at ops house and the parents don’t have to worry about feeding them for a few days. Just to be nice because every parent can do with free time and that way op gets to hang with their siblings. It’s best op stays where they are, and make other plans to help them out a lil, because at the end of the day, dad made his bed now he can lay in it, who knows maybe talk to grandpa about lowering the rent for dad just to say you don’t want your siblings suffering too much.😅
NTA: Your father treated you like dirt and had the power to stop. He didn't. You were already grieving, he then demanded you pay rent, then he threw you out. Your grandfather is looking out for you and making it clear to your father that there are consequences to actions. Think of it as a valuable life lesson that will help your father grow as a person. P.S. -your stepmother did not object to the way your father treated you. She is as bad.
S1: even without the revelation that grandpa was paying for the house…. It’s a pretty dick move to charge a kid rent the day they turn 18, without that being understood. It’s even more of a dick move to charge them rent when you’re gonna have another kid and just kick the oldest out with 2 months notice. The only exception I can think of is that you charge them rent to teach them to be independent, but put all that rent money into a savings account you can hand back to them, to help get them started on their own.
the dad literally wanted to feel powerful and to do that he put his own daughter into various financial problems. it made him feel in charge and also made him feel better about being a useless mooch because he can make himself feel like a financial success because someone near him was not doing financially. a bully spoiled child.
500 isn't a symbolic amount?? I know rent is crazy, maybe it's cuz I live in a state that still has the lowest possible minimum wage but um 500 is not chump change
So, he lives basically rent free in a home owned by his father and tried to scam money off his own daughter under the disguise of 'being an adult' I would have called his ass out to everyone and how he basically stole money from his own kid just to spend it on his new family. From the sounds of it, he prefer his new family over op, and now he is suffering because he had to real good and easy, now he paying the price, literally.
Poor kid her Dad is a huge ahole. She should just be low contact and when her siblings are old enough to make their own decisions go no contact. I don't think he loves her at all.
Sadly, many men stop loving their children, or love them less, when he stops loving their mother or moves on to another partner. It is an awful flaw and nothing to do with the child personally. Don’t run yourself ragged trying to get his love and attention. He will not give it. Please focus on taking care of yourself and let that coldhearted father rot. Go find a kind father figure to replace him just like he replaced you.
OP is super naive, but they aren’t doing anything wrong. Her dad is a manipulator. She can see her siblings, just by visiting them or taking them out to hang out. I hope she can still be around her siblings.
OP, with all this, I’m not sure if your father even loves you. I hope you don’t cling on the pity situation that he’s the only parent you have. Your step mother, if she’s not like this to you before then she’s turning into that evil stepmom slaving out Cinderella. Good thing your sister is not as evil as her mother. Hopefully never will.
Dad tried to get rid of his “spare kid” and scam rent for a house that was never his. Dad is the one who screwed up not OP
If he wasn't so great he wouldn't have to live frivolous now.
Exactly.
OP, if you read this, don't fall for it, he doesn't care about you. Don't be a chump, your better then that
No OP should not move back home.
1:OP dad deliberately did this to himself.
2: and he's suffering the consequences of his actions.
3: this is just a ploy to get grandpa off his back.
4: if he did not want this to happen then he should not have took advantage of his own parent and child.
@@Jaybei420 Also, if Dad demanded rent once the OP turned 18, now that there's a baby OP might be forced to babysit for free instead of having enough time to study.
The gall of OPs dad to charge his teenager rent while mooching off his dad his entire adult life🤣🤣🤣. I hope OP doesn't move back in because they will resent her for their lack of space and for Grandpa choosing her and not dad and his do-over family
so, dad *lived rent free* in a house his dad (or FIL?) owns. and had the audicity to demand 500$ rent from his kid? the nerve of this guy!
Grandpa is still being extremely generous with the $1200/mo rent. OP didn't mention anyone sharing a room so we can safely assume they live in a 6 bedroom (2 offices, master, & 3 kids) house, aka a friggin huuuuge possibly a mcmansion. $1200 is dirt cheap for a house that big. If they were all working adults they would only be paying $200 each that's practically free.
Not only that, but he probably had every opportunity to make something out of his life and he is still a lowlife
@@bhart3321 I think the $1200/mo rent is the OP's current rent, not the rent for the dad's house. So the punishment is super lenient, dad is still not paying rent for his house.
Probably was overspending and saw a new cashcow.
I could have understood 100~150 a month to contribute to other expenses. But 500? Yea that's a dad scamming his own son...
Grandpa has provided for his family and Dad decided to scam and boot out his old family for his redo family. Grandpa is just teaching him a lesson he needed.
Grandpa is definitely the MVP.
"Knives Out" vibes anyone?
@@ladyv5655 Aunt too, as she was the one to tell grandpa, which put things in motion.
I would be playing dumb with dad. I'd tell him "Sorry dad, I wouldn't want to take that room you need so much for the baby, and I really like not having to pay rent to grandpa, it's such a help given my status as both student and part time worker. Sorry dad, but it isn't feasible for both of us, but we can always visit with each other!"
I wouldn't because of the siblings unless they're not a package deal with Step-mum and Dad anymore.
Grandparents are the legit MVPs. Mom was Too. Dad has everything he needs and still charges his daughter rent, while freezing her out and going low contact for six months. What a terrible father.
I bet he wants OP to come back not just for money, but also for free babysitting!
@@jaymel4691 💯 They realised they kicked out the only other adult who could handle their mess
so, Dad can't support himself, charges daughter a significant rent, to subsidize his life. They also have her doing "chores" (who wants to bet she was doing a majority of the chores), and then kicks her out. OP doesn't think it was an "evil stepmom" issue, but she is treated poorly when grandpa gets involved. Oh, honey, it is most certainly an evil stepmom issue. 100 percent. Grandpa rocks. He even set up an educational fund for the step sister, that is one stand up guy. Grandpa is teaching dad a, long overdue, lesson. If OP had moved back she would have been the built in, default, babysitter and maid. She is better off staying where she is. If dad can't resume a decent relationship she is well rid of him.
Calling it: Dad was mad over losing his unpaid housemaid, and he wanted a free babysitter for his new kid.
💯👍🏿
@@DrownedInExileI think that money was the amount needed for step mom to be a sahm without effecting their lifestyle
Grandpa is the definition of a patriarch, a true head of the family taking care of everything and punishing the hypocrites.
That grandpa sounds like an absoulte gem of a human. The dude worked hard enough to be able to support the basic needs of his kids and grankids.
Wow, charging his daughter to live in a place that he doesn't even own shows that his morals aren't in the gutter, they're in the waste treatment plant! Don't have Grandpa let up on him and continue living in your own place. Be happy, OP.
Nah he doesn't want money...he wants BABYSITTING and Money.
exactly, free babysitting and a maid. OP glossed over the fact that she was doing a lot of "chores".
My thoughts exactly, the OP shouldn't ruin his new, more flexible study schedule
that was my EXACT immediate thought when I heard that they wanted her to move back in. new baby... they want help with the baby and/or the chores
Man, I’d love to be like the grandpa in story 1 when I grow old
I know, he rocks
I came here for this comment!!!
Ahh. That’s a nice aspiration. 😊
Good on Grandpa for putting the dad in his place.
This reminds me of a friend who sold her house and moved in with her new husband, who was the warden of a state prison. His house was right next to the prison, outside the walls but part of the property. He "split" the rent with her for years. Then when he retired she was helping him with the out processing paperwork and found out the house was part of his compensation package while he ran the prison. Rent free. 😠
What did she do? Request her money back?
@@TheDanniExperience No. They're separated, but not divorced. Frustrating. He's such a dirtbag, ran an entire prison for over a decade but somehow can't get it together to run errands. One time after separation, she was in the hospital and he came up to "help". Took care of the dogs for a few days, then left - and left the wrong key for me, dogs locked in the house, AC off and on a 90+ degree day. I had to get a locksmith so her dogs wouldn't die in the heat. Pretty sure it was an intentional oops to get back at her but still seem like the good guy.
@@DaryleBrownWhat a monster! 🤬 I knew a guy who is a corrections officer at a high-security prison. He's a self-proclained Sociopath. It makes you wonder if they're all like that. 🤔
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes. This so called father is learning what the definition of karma is!
"I'm using a throwaway because"
Reddit doesn't need to know you're using a throwaway, OP. It's expected.
I dunno if that is something reddit requires.
Ok thank you. it kinda of annoys me when they explain why they are using a throwaway. It seems like it would make it easier for the people in their life to put two and two together.
@@jr5557I think the main reason people clarify is because people sometimes use the fact an account is new as “proof” that a story is fake.
Making a new account for a post about something private and/or embarrassing makes perfect sense to me, but I guess some find it suspicious.
The reason people mention that they are using a throwaway is because if they DON'T, Redditers will accuse them of trying to hide their main account in order to "misrepresent" (or LIE) about details in order to make themselves seem innocent or their actions (which are often bad) _justified._ Having a brand new account while posting in *AITA* or *Relationship Advice* is IMMEDIATELY viewed with suspicion in the Reddit community by many. Lots of people tend to make random posts about their lives which have the (often unintended effect) of revealing what type of person they are.
Redditers tend to use an OP's past post history to gauge their character in order to determine whether or not they "deserve" to be deemed the "@$$hole", for their actions or whether this was just a one off incident and they were simply reacting to being provoked in this situation. If their post history shows that they have a habit of just being an awful person, then they will get called out. Or sometimes, Redditers will discover lies in their post due to contradictions in their post history, etc. As a result of this, some OP's will use a throwaway to try to hide their post history for this very reason, so that they can't be judged based on their past actions. There are also people who use throwaway because they have friends/family who know of and lurk on their main profile.
Yeah, Reddit’s weird though (shocking, I know lol). Making a throwaway account for something private makes complete sense, but a lot of people will use a new account’s age as “proof” the story is fake.
That makes some posters feel like they need to explain why their account is new, even though, in my opinion, it should be pretty f-ing obvious why someone would want to create a new account so their “My boyfriend wants me to clean him like a cat” post isn’t connected to the account that their friends & family know.
Management hates when employees are right 😂😂👍
Step sis needs the truth, so dad doesn't try to pull the same crap on her. The man is greedy and entitled and is not above sacrificing others for what he wants.
I kind of wonder if the wife would allow it, since that's HER daughter. She may have been fine with charging OP rent. She may have even been the one to suggest it! But I doubt she would do it to her own children.
Agreed
It’s so sad that all OP wants is a relationship with his/her dad and he just, couldn’t care less. More often than not it is really children who love their parents unconditionally and some parents will take advantage of that at every opportunity and it breaks my heart to see.
s1: i spent my childhood in a home i never felt welcome in and had money hung over my head for that entire time and more. what helped was getting away, establishing myself, learning to be comfortable living alone. OP needs that too. she can visit, she can offer to babysit, she can even take walks with them - but moving back is only going to make dad backslide into resentment. ESPECIALLY when he finds out grandpa is still gonna charge him $1200/mo for the bs he put OP through.
Damn, Grandpa is the GOAT!
$500 a month to live with your parents is wild
I could understand if the family was genuinely struggling like it's super cramped and the parents were working to the bone to keep afloat. Not this lazy excuse though
How do you live rent free in your dad's house and try to charge your daughter rent to live IN THAT SAME HOUSE the moment she turns 18? What the fuck is wrong with OP's dad?
I think the biggest thing that blows me away is the Grandpa is still subsidizing the dad in story 1. He's only making the dad pay the rate on OP's $1,200 apartment. Dad's house sounds big...2 offices, OP's old room, Stepsister's room and (presumably) the master bedroom. Even the worst parts of the US you're not getting a 5 bed home for $1,200 per month.
don't forget the toddler son's room, 6 bedrooms. That is a massive house.
6 bedrooms so probably a mcmansion. $1200 is grandpa still being extremely generous & dad is a right tw*t to be mooching like he is. They apparently couldn't afford the two kids they already had so why on earth would they add two more. Moreover why wasn't stepmom working full-time, plenty of stuff she can do from home especially since covid made remote work more feasible option.
Wow. W grandpa!. To set up a college fund for a step sibling that has no relation to him because he didn't want her to feel left out? Dude is Mr. Rogers
What an all-star grand dad! But wow, the dad was looting free money from his own kid
Story 1: i can see a situation where the idea for rent belonged to Step-mom, wherein dad only followed along because he didnt tell wifey the truth of their financial situation
Dad not answering why he kicked OP out means one of two things and both are awful. Either he really doesn’t have an explanation and decided to nuke his relationship with his daughter and parents over nothing, or he does have a reason but it’s too heinous to put into words and there’s no way he can give it without looking like a complete AH.
Story 1 Step mom is the evil person behind this. Her mother is there to help with the baby. Is she ever going to leave? Dad is probably caving to keep her happy. And yes, he is a jerk.
Yea, they didn’t need OP’s room for the new baby, they needed it for stepmom’s mom! Baby could sleep in baby brother’s room or parents’ room.
@@stirrednotshaken4823 or step moms home office.
Where does daddy get off, trying to charge his own daughter rent for a house he doesn't even own??? Also I'm surprised no one else brought this up: daddy's mad he lost his unpaid housemaid, and wants a free babysitter. I'm so glad OP didn't move back in.
Even though OP doesn't mention the step mom much, I wouldn't be surprised if the reason why the dad is mildly neglectful & manipulating money out of OP is due to his 2nd wife. It's unfortunately not unheard of for a parent to treat their child like crap to prove their loyalty to the new spouse/ family, smh.
Grandpa is an absolute legend (as is the aunt and cousin and grandma). I suspect if you scratch below the surface of OP and stepmom’s relationship you’ll find that stepmother has hated her all along.
Story 1: I'm thinking that something obvious is being missed here... New baby, Grandma is being "annoying" while helping... OP would be such a good babysitter if she'd only move back in and dedicate herself to taking care of the baby... >:-(
The step kids live free. Man these ppl have no shame.
What i don’t get is like…according to Op, she and stepmom got along fine, and she actually LIKES her stepsister…WHY did Dad wana get rid of her? Was it just because she reminded him of his old wife?
Idk, he messed around and found out
Dad kicked her out to give stepmother mother a place to stay after the baby was born. Then iced her
Dad is an idiot of epic proportions. He doesn't own his home & his dad has been helping them with expenses for years. You can't afford the kids you got so why in the bloody hell would you add 2 more & have a stay at home wife, she needs to get a job something she can do from home & actually put that office of hers to use.
All of this could've been avoided if dad & stepmom hadn't taken advantage of his daughter & grandpa's generosity. Common sense, don't bite the hand that feeds you and definitely don't live beyond your means & then mooch off others.
Guess Daddy has to continue sucking up on the fact that he effed around and found out on why it's a bad idea to treat your own kid as garbage.
You know that old saying “can’t teach an old dog new tricks”. Well, in this case, you can’t teach an old selfish asshole how to pay money back. Grampa is what you call “THE GOAT!!” Too bad ‘dear ole dad’ didn’t get any of his kindness, and generosity.
Mood booster: Power tripping managers should at least know the rules they are using for that power trip. 🤔😂
Wait so the dad charged her 500 while living in the house free thanks to his father….
Story 1: Grandpa did good by punishing his deadbeat son for what he did, but I get the distinct feeling that there is a lot of background details that OP isn't being told here about her dad. Oh well, still an alright resolution.
Story 2: OP owned that boss, but they should figure out an exit strategy if they haven't left their job already. In my experience, bosses like that who get called out for their BS have a nasty habit of retaliating against the employees who made them look bad. I remember one case where an employee reported their boss for unprofessional behavior, and he was basically stalked around the store by management looking for any reason to get rid of him before he was quickly fired.
Is it even legal to charge rent when you do not own a place? He is lucky he did not end up in jail.
Wow. OP's grandpa is amazing! He is the reason families get generational wealth. What a sweet man.
Story 2 is why there are such long lines for fast food and other retail. It's already a job that doesn't pay near enough for the work and abuse from customers, but then top that with a manager who loves to use their tiny bit of authority for a power trip. Gross.
Story 1: It's just a big shame that Op got a parent and a step parent like this. It sounds like Op had such a great big sisterly relationship with the step sister, helping with homework and talking about personal things, which is what people only really do if they feel close. But instead of being happy that the kids from previous relationships are getting along, these 'parents' tried their best to make Op feel like less than even second fiddle to the kids they were making together. And even trying to squeeze out rent money from a freshly adult Op when they were living in their mc-mansiony house for free! That just screams 'I wasn't prepared for how much all my kids would cost me, so now I'm trying to get the money needed from my older kids' as if your kids have to be the fall guy for your mistakes. And those 'parent's' definitely don't want Op back in the house because they feel bad about what they did. They definitely want Op back in the house because they think it will get Grandpa off their backs, and they're probably going to try push some of the baby responsibilities onto Op and possibly try to squeeze money out of Op again, only this time with saying 'It's for your little siblings! Don't be greedy!'
After update: Aww, grandpa just sounds like the sweetest person. Making a fund for the step-sis even though she isn't his by blood...There's a lot of people who wouldn't do this for family they don't consider theirs. But it also sounds like Op's 'dear ole dad' was taking advantage of grandpa willingness to help family for a LONG time. Not even having any savings when you have 4 kids to take care of?? BRUH. And Op should definitely warn their step-sis about the house not belonging to Dad. Maybe he won't try since step-sis seems to fit with the image of his 'perfect' new family, but you never know how far greed will go, especially after what Dad pulled on Op.
Jeeeeez. 1st OP Is such a passive observer in her own life. It’s weird.
Thanks for the stories, LP.😊
“I’m not a kid anymore”
Op is a doormat that’s a little short of a light bulb
How does the OP not realize that her father doesn’t really care about her? If grandpa wasn’t holding all the strings he would have tossed her out a long time ago.
Excellent first story! And story 2 was pretty good, too!
Dad and stepmom probably need a babysitter too. He really fucked up!!
😂😂😂
Story 1: It's obvious that Dad picked his new life with step-mum over his already existing child. Kick-ass Aunt and Grandpa love these people. Don't move back in, studying plus a new baby in the house isn't an ideal combo. Also, I'd be suspicious about sudden babysitting duties if I'd move back in. I'd visit the kids and plan outings with them if that's what they really wanted but I'd be washing my hands of Dad and Step-mum. Wait... This sounds a lot like the first "Knives Out" movie holding family under grandpa's thumb, masked by kindness (just a random thought in my head). Grandpa gave away money with a cost, a secret or not-so-secret price tag and can demand it back anytime.
Update: So the OP didn't move back and Dad caved to the new deal. You're better off not living with people who can't manage money. Don't rub your dad's situation in his face. Dad sounds like a narc, why he does what he does, he doesn't know.
First story grampa is awesome. Wish I'd had anyone like that.
Op is not "dumb" for not knowing earlier, who would think their adult father could not pay any of his own bills. She is incredibly naive if she falls for anymore of her fathers attempts to make up, but it seems she can see through him now. That guy is such an AH
Mood Booster: I... um... what restaurant advertises with the bubbling sound of a bong?
story 1: Hard to say what came first, the chicken or the egg in regards to OP's dad and how he treated her, but it sounds like he sold his soul to a Demon in the Sack and the Stepmom is one HELL of a covert narc/enabler.
I wish I had a grandpa like this.
Bet dad called after the birth to have a free babysister
S1: I don't understand why step mom couldn't turn her private office into a room for the new baby. Or move OP into that room & use her room for the new baby. I don't see how someone who is a SATM would need a private office.
I mean unless the step mom has a plan in mind for the office for the future I agree. Who knows lol
I think he wants nothing to remind him of his late wife
Last story.. circa early 90's if you had a logo or name tag on a fast food uniform "knit top" you always had holes. In my five years of ff not one time was I questioned, or written up and instead had my shirts replaced for free. I also think this is why most ff places switched to tshirts instead of knit, because those things ran like cheap pantyhose. I was also never written up for cuffs on pants. It was ff and you were lucky to make your rent, pay for a cheap meal and gas to return to work and they knew it.
OP SHOULD NOT MOVE
BACK EVER.
STAY SAFE
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How long until we hear about how the stepmother was the driving force behind all this? It strikes me as odd that a father, who knows that he lives off the kindness of his dead wife's parents, would decide to kick out his only link to his deceased wife without some prodding from his new wife. I just wonder if the stepmother knew that she was telling her husband to bite the hand that (literally) feeds them.
Also, grandpa is a treasure! What a kind man!
OP grew up quite a bit in that story and learned much about life.
I feel like im different than most if my father had kicked me out and then became hostile to me i wouldnt miss him and be upset that he didnt contact me.
Don't move back. The money he has to pay back is probably just extra spending money.
S1: OP “throwaway account, the stuff on my primary account is very private”.
Me. You do realise this ‘very private’ stuff is _posted on the internet_ don’t you? 🤦🏼♀️
I had a chief when I was in the navy yelled at me that I was out of uniform because I was not wearing my jacket. I told her that it was in daily orders that jackets were optional and pointed to the copy of the orders pinned behind her. Luckily I had read the orders that morning as I was bored. There was nothing she could do.
Time for stepmom to quit popping out babies and get her butt a job! The dad sucks the most but good lord.
I think Dad and stepmom are hoping OP will be a free babysitter if she moves back in....
Wondering if 'FREE' babysitter could also figure in the fathers thinking?
Wow! 😳 OP needs to know that greedy A-hole is not her father, he's just a sperm donor. ಠ︵ಠ Leeching of Grandpa and kicking out his own daughter when he had plenty of rooms in the house for the new baby?! I know it's his house, his rules, but seriously, I feel like he was trying to get rid of OP and replace her with this new family. Shame on him! 😡 Grandpa on the other hand is a legend! 💖 Good for him teaching Dad a lesson. And I'm so happy OP is doing well in her new house. 😊
In grandpa's place if OP moved back I'd be laughing and still charge the dad and warn him not to try anything unless wants to get on my bad side. And OP shouldn't move back.
In my area $500 for a place of your own would be fantastic and unheard of but with other people that is not symbolic it's at least half of the rent.
wow thank goodness for the granddad
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Im early today. Yeeyi me..thanks for great content that helps us with chores, bathing and eating ❤❤❤
OP's dad ***sucks**** and her Grandpa is AWESOME.
Story 1 - I absolutely hate the entitlement of parents who tell their teenage children that just because they turned 18, they're now an adult and are expected to support themselves or pay rent. I'm glad OP's grandfather had her back. It's a wonder that someone as selfish and greedy as OP's dad came from someone as generous as her grandfather. Dad overplayed his hand, using his oldest child to fund his life with his do-overs. Now with a brand new baby, has to pay back that money he scammed from his kid AND basically OP's rent? Soooooo delicious!
fpr those of you that are puzzled by the second story restaurant hint, im pretty sure its taco bell
Ops father charged her rent despite living rent free himself. This angered his father, who punished him severely.
Way to go grandpa. Do not move back they just want money... money does terrible thing to ppl
If op misses their siblings they can offer to babysit for free, don’t let it go overboard, do it on your own terms, when you got free time and want to hang out with the kids. Even better if you have weekends free, that way they can stay over at ops house and the parents don’t have to worry about feeding them for a few days.
Just to be nice because every parent can do with free time and that way op gets to hang with their siblings. It’s best op stays where they are, and make other plans to help them out a lil, because at the end of the day, dad made his bed now he can lay in it, who knows maybe talk to grandpa about lowering the rent for dad just to say you don’t want your siblings suffering too much.😅
So presumably 500bucks was the amount needed for step mom to stay home and keep up their lifestyle.
NTA: Your father treated you like dirt and had the power to stop. He didn't. You were already grieving, he then demanded you pay rent, then he threw you out. Your grandfather is looking out for you and making it clear to your father that there are consequences to actions. Think of it as a valuable life lesson that will help your father grow as a person. P.S. -your stepmother did not object to the way your father treated you. She is as bad.
S1: even without the revelation that grandpa was paying for the house…. It’s a pretty dick move to charge a kid rent the day they turn 18, without that being understood. It’s even more of a dick move to charge them rent when you’re gonna have another kid and just kick the oldest out with 2 months notice. The only exception I can think of is that you charge them rent to teach them to be independent, but put all that rent money into a savings account you can hand back to them, to help get them started on their own.
Thy for the stories from Happy Cat🐱
the dad literally wanted to feel powerful and to do that he put his own daughter into various financial problems. it made him feel in charge and also made him feel better about being a useless mooch because he can make himself feel like a financial success because someone near him was not doing financially. a bully spoiled child.
Ooooh new video!
I think the parents wanted to move in the other grandma (step-mother’s mom) and that is why op was kicked out
500 isn't a symbolic amount?? I know rent is crazy, maybe it's cuz I live in a state that still has the lowest possible minimum wage but um 500 is not chump change
So, he lives basically rent free in a home owned by his father and tried to scam money off his own daughter under the disguise of 'being an adult' I would have called his ass out to everyone and how he basically stole money from his own kid just to spend it on his new family. From the sounds of it, he prefer his new family over op, and now he is suffering because he had to real good and easy, now he paying the price, literally.
Poor kid her Dad is a huge ahole. She should just be low contact and when her siblings are old enough to make their own decisions go no contact. I don't think he loves her at all.
S1: this OP though 🤦🏻
Grandparents are amazing. Father is crap
OP sounds really, really dhum….
Sadly, many men stop loving their children, or love them less, when he stops loving their mother or moves on to another partner. It is an awful flaw and nothing to do with the child personally. Don’t run yourself ragged trying to get his love and attention. He will not give it. Please focus on taking care of yourself and let that coldhearted father rot. Go find a kind father figure to replace him just like he replaced you.
Edit só he was trying to not pay 1200 if the apartment she was was vacant
OP is super naive, but they aren’t doing anything wrong. Her dad is a manipulator. She can see her siblings, just by visiting them or taking them out to hang out. I hope she can still be around her siblings.
OP, with all this, I’m not sure if your father even loves you. I hope you don’t cling on the pity situation that he’s the only parent you have. Your step mother, if she’s not like this to you before then she’s turning into that evil stepmom slaving out Cinderella. Good thing your sister is not as evil as her mother. Hopefully never will.