I think by saying "afternoon all" to Arwin, you proved the existence of time zones which don't work properly on a flat Earth, so it was a totally legitimate reason for him to block you.
But how do we explain CC Chris from Westchester New York and his "Good morning, good evening, good afternoon wherever you may be"? I suppose in his mind it's where we lie under the circling spotlight that is the flerf Sun.
Here you go Dan, Dean's footage is taken from 56.10553369410957, -3.1574088472070323 all his distances are wrong. The hill he shows in this footage is North Berwick Law 56.048428112681755, -2.7148127570633758 at a distance of 17.5 miles and has a height of 614ft. The second white rock is Bass Rock 56.07780737517989, -2.640221194554174 at a distance of 20 miles and a height of 351ft. For reference, the two rigs at the end of his clip are just 7 miles away, so his guess at the little sail boat at 26 miles is just laughable. If the guy had any honour, he would post his location, time and date the footage was taken then look up the information on a few of the vessel finder websites and you could get a gps location for the ships in the footage.
How's it easy? To be certain it's accurate we'd need cartographers to literally go out and map the entire earth from scratch including restricted areas like beyond what they call the 66th parallel south since we can't trust the official maps. And often you can't even trust the distances that you're comparing the flat earth map with.
@@pjcnet Oh boy!! Did an actual flat earther respond to my comment? How exciting! You don't need cartographers, I would except rough hand drawings as long as the distances were "close enough", say within 10% of correct distances. For distances between the Southern Continents I would even allow a 30% margin of error. Also, I don't require a map of the entire Earth, so you don't have to worry about past the 66th parallel. Distances between the Southern Continents make a flat earth map impossible anyway. If the Earth was in fact flat, then making a flat map of it would be easy. I wish you success in your endeavors!
He's really hard to listen to without getting angry. It's that combination of smugness, aggressiveness and cowardice, because he would never talk to someone like that in any other setting.
Typical globetard, you forgot about perspective, the Rayleigh criteria AND angle of attack, all of which prove Oakley is right because of .....reasons.
The jet stream argument proves 100% that for flat earthers to comprehend anything, it has to be simple and obvious. Anything which requires the energising of all of their four brain cells becomes a mental challenge much too dangerous to undertake while they are concentrating on breathing.
His argument was literally "this doesn't make sense to me cause I dont know, therefore it's wrong and FE is real" It's sad cause that "map" that they use is so fuckin distorted. Like the Pacific Ocean is so damn wide for no reason.
The only answer for these people to shut them up is always, "You have a working model? Good, predict something with it, using only your model, the weather, the next lunar eclipse and who sees it, etc. Predict literally anything with accuracy and show the work, then maybe we'll listen."
The big problem with his jet stream idea is that he says the curvy jet stream doesn't make sense, but his spinning jet stream diagram doesn't match the measured jet stream at all. It would have it going over the U.S. in a static unchanging arc. That's not what the jet stream does.
@@justcallmekai1554 That's a great flat-Earth map he used because it shows we could fly from the U.S. to Australia over the North Pole in about eight hours instead of flying over the Pacific for fifteen hours. Wouldn't that be a great world to live on!
When I asked my Dad what he did during WW2 he replied "driving round the south coast of England in a Post Office van". What he was actually doing was surveying for locations to erect receiving stations to pick up "clean" signals from the German Knickebein transmitters on the other side of the water. These clean signals were then sent by landline to other transmitters well inside Britain (including the sound transmitter of BBC TV station at Alexandra Palace) and re-radiated, thus confusing the German pilots. So I have a personal reason for being pissed-off at Taboo Conspiracy misusing the knickebein system in his attempt to debunk the globe.
One of the receiver sites inland was at Birdlip, Gloucestershire. Not far from Malvern and the Radio and Radar Signals Research Establishment. Who Devised the Jamming. Coincidently a short distance from the Mast at Birdlip is one of today's ATC Transmitter Receivers.
Yeah, they were obviously closer than the land was and the land was 22 miles away. The land had part of the bottom obscured but the boats didn't. How is that physically possible?
Got to disagree with the “everyone gets there own reality”. You can have your own beliefs but not facts. Reality is not something you choose - it is what is. If you are (totally) blind you don’t get to believe there is no sun. If you are colorblind you don’t get to believe there is no color. But if you want to believe that these things are not important that you can do.
Especially since some people live in a reality that allows them to think certain people are inferior and don't deserve the same rights, or gay people should be imprisoned, or any number of horrible things. You are very correct! People with their own reality are sociopaths who alter their reality to suit their needs. It's dangerous!
@John Hartley Stop trolling please. If you want to do political BS on a thread were we are just noting that reality exists, may I suggest you press the little”x” on the top of the screen, go outside, and look up at the sky. Breathe the air. The world is not so bad. At night if it is dark enough there is a sky full of stars. And for each one there is a person dreaming of a better world. As long as you realize that those stars, planets and more are real- then you understand what we are talking about and you can find (I hope) a moment of pease. You clearly need it.
Very, very true! A common confusion these days apparently: Relativism is a cancer, slowly eating away at the one-and-only "reality" that exists, attempting to fragment it into multiple "realities". Of course, that's just as impossible to do as to convince a flat Earther that "in reality" the earth is not flat! Sigh.
Dean has added all sorts of madness to his flerf credentials. Giants, Aliens and lots of other lunacy. I don't think he's ever heard a conspiracy and thought, 'Nope, that's mental!'
Beyond frustrating to watch... That is a debate chrusher. I fully understand why established science has great issue trying to form a dialoge with these people. It is simply not possible to do.
Oh, that's my favorite argument! If one says, "Because I don't understand it, it could not exist", they are also implying that the universe sprang into existence when they became conscious and the universe grew only because of their expanding awareness. That's not an Earth centered universe that's a THEM centered universe.
@@Mandelbrot_Set Being able to see boats 20 miles away obviously proves da Erf is a pizza with a radius of at least 12,400 miles (from the North Pole to the "ice wall," aka the South Pole).
Not only that but the steadiest hand I've ever seen to keep the boat in shot. At 20 miles a 0.01 degree angle change would be 18 feet or 5 metres in normal money. So that would be like trying to make sure the camera was still enough that you don't see a 1mm difference at arms length. Just rewatching to see how much camera shake he actually does have. He can't keep it still on the island 22 miles away...... And he estimates that boat is 3 miles further away. How big are those men in that small(?) boat? So a rough estimate is that those men are something like 12 to 18 feet tall (if we presume those black blobs are all of them standing on deck). And the boat is about 125 feet tall. The giants are still among us, with their giant trees
even with a tripod the slightest touch at full zoom will cause shake, apparently these guys never looked through a telescope.....but i guess they would see astronomy as a waste of time cause its all fake
That sailboat was no fucking where near 26 miles away. I used to be a merchant marine deck officer. I was literally professionally trained to look out windows at sailboats on the ocean. I actually looked up that small tanker vessel, the Sea Ruby. It's a 78m long, 11m wide ship, so very small. That thing is a lot closer than it looks, because it's too small to look close, but it is close enough to read the name under zoom. If you can read the name off a ship with binoculars or a camera, you're very close - within 2 or 3 nautical miles at the extreme LONG end of the scale. In fact, when I was at sea, it was a common practice in open ocean to not get within 2 to 3 nautical miles of a large ship and to keep 1.5-2 miles away from smaller ships. In more restricted waters like certain parts of the Med, or in places like the Red Sea or Persian Gulf, we would decrease that distance to 1 mile to large ships. 1 mile separating 2 large ships is nothing. It's basically within spitting distance. At 26 miles, you wouldn't have seen the largest ship in the world sail by, even if it were in clear view because it's just so small. That sailboat... outside of about 5 or 6 miles away, without things like radar, extremely sharp or lucky eyesight, or a good sweep with optics, you don't even see them going by. If I were to honestly guess at real ranges to Sea Ruby and to that small sail boat I would guess more like 1 nautical mile to the Sea Ruby and maybe 1 and a quarter to the sail boat. Those 2 guys fishing are a few hundred meters away. I tried to get the name of the orange ship, but couldn't read it. It was too far away, even under high zoom, to be able to make out the words. It might have been a Stolt tanker, but they have many of those...
Sorry Dan but there are no silent "k" in german, he actually (within the limitations of his english accent) gets the pronounciation of "Knickebein" pretty spot on. And BTW not having the sources linked anymore is really anoying for someone who wants to have alook at those channels just to see how far down the whole they went.
If you're on a coastline where the sun sets into the sea, lie on the ground facing the sunset. At the second the dun disappears, stand up. You'll be able to see the sun again for a few seconds. Two sunsets in one day!
Given the flat Earther standard argument is that the Sun appears to set because it's moving away from us, then as you're standing up, it is still moving away, so they have to think of a way how it is suddenly close enough to see again whilst continually travelling away from you.
"On the higher floors, the sun can still be seen for several minutes after it has set at ground level. This has led Dubai clerics to rule that those living above the 80th floor should wait 2 additional minutes to break their Ramadan fast, and those living above the 150th floor, 3 minutes." From the Wikipedia article on the Burj Khalifa, Dubai
That Crain arm (I don't know if that is its proper name) looks like it picked up a SUOER heavy Load! It is toast as they say time to get a new one if it looks like that!!
He knows full well what's wrong with it. He relies heavily on arrogance, bombast and his mute button to keep his herd in unthinking agreement, and having a popular picture works as long as they don't analyse it too much, or think too much about the counterpoints.
@@OzoneGrif I think that's the case. He no more believes that the Earth is Flat than he believes water is made of microscopic Easter Bunnies. He's in it for the fame and money. Think about it though: he loves the popularity he has with people he considers "morons", ie, Flat Earthers. How more pathetic can you get then that?
@@wraitholme That’s my biggest problem, literally the first second I saw it I could tell it was HEAVILY refracted. It actually reminds me of visual effects from old games consoles because of how refracted it is.
The guy in the last video almost litteraly said: 'I don't understand this therefore it's wrong' and didn't even realise how wrong that is to say: just because I don't understand math doesn't mean that two and two isn't four. Like Dan usually says: bless him
That's usually their main driving force - they literally refuse to believe something they can't understand, and rather than admit a gap in their knowledge (which is nothing to be ashamed of) or God forbid try to properly educate themselves, they take the easy way out of sticking their fingers in their ears and going "Lalalalalalalala!!" Flat earthers are practically at the emotional maturity level of toddlers.
Hello, is that the irony police? Someone on the internet is accusing people of cognitive dissonance? You're busy? Well, after your grande caramel latte and donuts will do. He's not going anywhere soon. He's got some serious shilling to do before his siesta.
Someone should tell him what "cognitive dissonance" actually means. Disagreeing with Nathan is a sign of sanity. Cognitive dissonance is actually the holding of two diametrically opposite opinions at the same time. Hence "cognitive" + "dissonance".
I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
*"It doesn't make sense - and that's a common sense fact!"* The existence of flat earthers makes no sense to me either, yet you exist - despite of any common sense.
but but but..... JESUS SAID... wait no no The BIB says.... wait that was ours as well... hmm Hue says! ooo right that religion said the world was round and planted by hue
Nathan Oakley: "YOU CAN'T USE REFRACTION TO PROVE EARTH CURVE, YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE REFRACTION, YOUR EARTH CURVE MATHS CLEARLY DISPROVES REFRACTION WORKING!" Also Nathan Oakley: "LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF REFRACTION PROVING FLAT EARTH!!"
Recently, Bob the Science Guy distilled a few figures from the dead swan picture and put them in an Earth curve calculator and came out with a .......... RADIUS! Wrong radius, but still a radius. 😀
@@Soundbrigade Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant I use the channels as entertainment, as I have a university degree in physics, which makes so easy to see thru the lies of the flatheads. But I do watch ResearchFlatMoon (Bob the science guy) as he looks into the psychology and philosophy behind the FE argumenting
Well, I took it serious. As Flatearthers say, do your research and do an experiment. Yup, I did the research, were are the flat earth model and globe earth model at most in conflict. The relative place in te sky for the sun at dawn and at dusk to any observer. And I went on with an experiment. Place one stick in the grond or have nature do that for you in the form of a tree. Mark the shadow at sunrise and mark the shadow at sunset. Then measure the angle between those lines. If we were living on a flat earth, according to them model the lines should have an 80 to 110 degree angle, when living on a spere the lines would be 180 degrees or at most 12 to 13 degrees deviating towards the north or the south. And guess what? We are living on a globe/spere/ball earth, we always have been and we always will be.
@@erikblaas5826 Well done Eric, finally someone who understand what word research means. Now try to do a video of your observation and put it up as the earth is a globe proof with all the explanation and research materials. Good luck!
9:22 You must not be aware how low to the water the deck of a cruise ship is. Have you also never bee in the below waterline rooms where you can look out under the sea? LOL
@@Power5 You must not be aware that a boat will never have the water obscure the boat on a flat Earth, you would be able to see water behind the boat, like the fishermen. Ever been to the bottom of a river? (I don't know what this has to do with anything).
@@dk-bw4gk Sorry, my sarcasm did not come through in the post. Let me clarify. Flerfs are complete morons and know nothing about earth. Cruise ships float extremely high. The one at my timestamp is more like a yacht in height above water.
I wish people would stop going on his 'show' just to give him someone to mute and shout at. It's obvious he isn't interested in listening to anything. Stop giving him material.
Jokely is hilarious 😂 he loves saying "cognitive dissonance" while being cognitively dissonant 🤣 Sadly, he just heard a big word and did what he's good at - repeating stuff! And that voice, it's like an old banger being revved up, you just know it's going to explode any second now, and he never lets us down in that respect! 🤣
@@danielschmaderer lol 😂 he always reminds me of the American Dad episode where Stan was sucked into a Liberal or whatever it was (my memory sucks lemons 🍋) and he listens to the radio and the host talks exactly the same, at first it drives him mad with all the pauses between words "doesn't he know what he's going to say next?! Doesn't he have it written down in front of him?!" 🤣 "and.... For... A measly... $30... Each month... You too... Can experience... The pleasure of.... Paying for... Radio..." AAARRRGGGHHH! 🤣
@@einienj3281 and @Alain Martel I agree, he's definitely projecting, and probably over compensating too, personally I think it's because he's so closeted that he'll explode if he doesn't, and we all know his stance on the LGBTQ community and he'd never want to be seen as a hypocrite 🤣 although he already kinda is 🙃
"Everybody has the right to their own reality", and then makes up a bunch of nonsense, passes it off as facts and wonders why people don't treat him as an adult.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
@@Paladwyn Great! I'm happy to hear that. Well, i would have been happy to hear the opposite, too, though... hmm... maybe I'm too easily made happy? I should think about that!!
@@Paladwyn Can YOU recommend ME some nice channels then? I'm always on the search for more, especially as one of the Best UA-camrs i know; Hbomberguy; is alwas making Big (and therefore Rare) Videos. Means, he posts rarely.
Dean should have kept the camera on the cruise ship sailing away from him and he would have seen go over over the curve. He just kept moving the camera around.
Nathan Oakley saying that "the horizon is Earth curve" is wrong. That is not the definition of "horizon." However, the horizon *is* caused by the curvature of the Earth. I have asked several flat earthers what mechanism causes the horizon in their fantasy world and how do you calculate its distance? I have yet to receive a straight answer to either question. That makes them hypocrites when they claim that the horizon is at the wrong distance in the real world. The geometric or theoretical horizon is the *minimum* distance that the horizon can be. Nathan Oakley lied when he claimed that it is the *maximum* distance. The atmosphere gets a say in the matter.
So, in summary, the flerf "arguments" in this video boil down to: Oakley: Arrogance and narcissism. Dean: Inability to comprehend scale Taboo Conspiracy: Cherry-picking What Popster: Argument from Incredulity Well done boys.
If the Earth is flat then I'm sure it would be no challenge for a Flat-Earth to show us Africa while standing in Florida using a high powered telescope.
@@cheshirecat3458 Oh yeah, it's definitely a silly rabbithole that one goes down if one forces them to defend their claims. They don't quite explain why you can still see the upper part of the thing as it disappears over the horizon, despite it being the same distance away as the lower half (except for some ridiculous claim about how things disappear from the bottom up due to the 'angle of attack', which matches absolutely nothing that we know about light or vision). They don't explain how we can see things like aeroplanes or mountain tops at longer ranges than the ships that have disappeared. Or, you know, *the moon*. They don't explain why the thing then doesn't pop back into view when one uses a telescope... I (somewhat) understand the psychology that makes a flat earther want to be a flat earther, but I don't understand how they can sustain it.
I can now imagine a bunch of flat Earthers editing that part where Dan say: 'ice wall' and use it to say: ' Even Sci Man Dan knows the ice wall and flat Earth are real'
That is if they know how to use editing tools (Flerfer is like: wait editing tools? Let me look in my cupboard...). From what I've seen so far from flerfers videos, is that they only know how to plug the device they used to capture that video and upload the file as it is.
@@efkagamescomputers6886 Perfect example is CC Chris who should have edited out the time his wife walked past and berated him and he just had this absolute look of defeat on his face. Kind of like a puppy who got caught crapping on the floor. It was priceless. I am laughing just thinking about it again! Everyone else in the world would have edited that out.
@@Pete_R63 one cut when she walks in, another when she leaves, then an edit saying "sorry for the odd cut, someone was at the door" or something then move along. Literally like 5 seconds of work in editing software, and it even uses the things most basic tool! Kinda funny, but it also shows the mental capacity of these people.
@@Eric_The_Cleric Exactly! But, if he did that, he would have removed one of the greatest comic moments in FE video history! It breaks me up every time I see it. It ranks right up there with "A 15 degree drift-Thanks Bob!" I really want to feel bad for him but the saying, "If you invite abuse, it is impolite not to accept it" comes to my mind and he sent out a big, frilly, gold leaf embossed invitation to be abused.
Gotta love how the guy at 9:00 literally has ships in view that are moving away from him. But he doesn't share any footage of what those ships look like once they get far enough to actually start disappearing behind the curve. Gotta love these Flat Earth "Scientists" who never accept proof that is contrary to their baseless hypotheses. That's not how Science works.
Probably 25-26 miles away... and yet the boat with a mast height of about 30ft is clearer and almost as tall as the 250ft hills which are 22 miles away?
As a meteorologist, I thoroughly enjoyed that last one. The Doppler Weather Report…classic! He didn’t even look at Doppler Radar lmao! Also, the jet stream is about 10-13 km up and he’s looking at 26 km. So far up dude!
Flat earthers: The horizon is not exactly where simple geometry of a spherical earth tells us it should be. So we regard this as proof of a flat earth where there shouldn't be a horizon to start with. Everybody else: You what now?
yeah and it even says on the calculator 'refraction approximation' and 'not accurate for observations over water very close to the horizon ...' . Aand what was the observation height of the so-called 'Black Swan' - 1ft ffs!
Mick West and Walter Bislin were able to simulate the view pretty well in software just by plugging some values into the air temperature column. There seems to have been a temperature inversion on that day. Mick West made a video about it.
@@Mandelbrot_Set spot on, the wibbley wobbly oil rig photo has to be possible every single day to prove their argument. The fact that it is not the case, as shown by the more clear photo that refraction is having an effect. The next argument is that time is not an independent variable. Its almost like they are inventing a totally fake philosophy masquerading as science.
As soon as he mentioned Marconi, I thought, here we go he's gonna completely ignore the ionosphere, which we learnt about in school in the seventies. And there we go. lol.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
@@stevieduggan1763 May sound a bit homework-like if i just list them, but whatever! Here you go. -Sci Man Dan. -Veritasium. -Zoo Tier. -Its ok to be smart. -Hbomberguy!! -Kozmo. -Practical Engineering. -Viced Rhino. -Belief it Or Not.
@@stevieduggan1763 Oh, and stick-figure-teaching-channel like 'Oversimplified' and 'CGP Gray' and kinda also 'Bluejay'. Not wanting to overdo it... but... I GOT SO MUCH MORE! But i will wait for you to ask for more... to not be pushy...
Legend has it there’s a wall of ice, defended by man. Beyond the wall is an unforgiving place, populated with a race of humans known as Wildlings. Oh wait that’s game of thrones not real life.
It’s defended by penguins with AK-47. I know because I sold them some leftovers from the Peruvian-Mongolian war. The polar bears are said to making up a few panzer divisions to help the penguins with their duties.
Second guy is wild. Apparnelry the 250ft mountain is 22 miles away and the small sailboat is 26 miles away? But that would make that sailboat MASSIVE. Like mountain sized boat.
SciManDan, the pronunciation of "Knickebein" with a non-silent "k" is actually correct. "Knickebein" is a German word, and in German this "k" is pronounced.
Radio waves can bend and be reflected due to atmospheric effects. I used to have an old radiogram as a kid and it could pick up radio stations further away at night than it could during the day. Since I suspect the Earth does not change shape over night, the difference is atmospheric.
Actually, that is an intentional feature of "clear channel" AM stations. They are allowed to jack up their power at night while other stations have to lower theirs.
@@Mandelbrot_Set I am in the U.K. and not all the stations I could receive were in the US. I believe that clear channels are a US +Canada + Mexico thing
Weather does the same thing. My dad spent several years on his ham (amateur) radio, chasing the bouncing waves from around the world, talking to many people, sometimes all the way around to the other side of the world, Northern and Southern hemispheres. He was very proud of his collection of postcards from all over! Well, they weren't regular postcards, mind you. Ham operators get their callsign (sort of like pseudonyms on social media, but assigned to them by the amateur radio societies in various countries) on their own designs of postcards, with what could be their own drawings, their own pictures (like "local flavor" pictures) and the like, or just the 1970s and 80s version of Clipart pictures on them. His call was KA0CLY, and the 3rd digit, the zero, was an indicator of his area, sort of like the timezones, except for there's only 10 of them across the world. Before that, he used to try to catch roaming television signals, too. He knew about them since he spent decades being a TV and radio repairman (way back when they just used vacuum tubes!), and knew how to adjust the TV tuner to bring them in. He had pictures of stations hundreds or thousands of miles away, like from Mexico when he lived in Missouri, USA. I've seen the pictures, and they're pretty neat! They were basically just round test patterns (if anyone remembers them, LOL! They were circular and had lots of specific patterns on them, including an "Indian head" [Native American], which let them adjust horizontal & vertical, amplitude, and all sorts of other broadcasting stuff), but looked so cool! Anyway, that's probably a lot more than anyone wanted to know about radio and TV waves bouncing off of the atmosphere!
Portuguese navigators know for 500 years that the Earth is round, and they have proved it by circumnavigating the Planet. Sadly Fernão de Magalhães died during the expedition
As an amateur radio operator, I'm tempted to post a $100K challenge to anyone in Europe who can reach the US using 2M (144-148Mhz) without any repeaters. It's LITERALLY impossible. Meanwhile, I can use a 10M (28-29.7Mhz) radio in the middle of the US (Kansas City) and reach Australia at 6pm Central US time because of the Ionosphere's bounce, but I can't do it at 6AM because the ionosphere will have changed shape due to NOT being influenced by the sun. I loved how he kept talking about people's predictions of the day, as if they knew everything there was to how radio's work. Kind of like how everyone would have just known how airplanes worked before the Wright brothers proved it worked, right?
As a biologist it hurts so much to watch all those vulgar and offensive people failing at science. Kids with elementary education know better. Thanks for making these videos SciManDan. The way you address them is hilarious 😂🤣
I'm still here waiting for *ANY* flerf to provide a flat earth map that shows accurate day/night cycles at the same time as accurate seasons and at the same time show how 3 different southern continents all see the southern cross at the same time. been almost 2 years so far, how many more years must I wait if the earth is "demonstrably flat"? If the globe "conspiracy" has managed it, why can't the "flat earth truth" achieve the same feat?
I love how they want to prove a flat Earth by saying that they can see too far but they somehow forget to mention that the objects they're looking at are still partiality hidden behind... Something (which is obviously the curve)
Well, they are shit at everything: audio, videography, editing, photography, logic, speaking, maths, their job, life... That's why they are FE's. I know people like that that blame their shitty life on anyone and anything but themselves. Pathetic creatures.
The leap of faith one must make to actually believe that an image as _appalling_ (refractionwise) as the Black Swan in any way could be used as valid evidence of a non-spherical earth. Just o. m. g..
When they point the camera over the sea towards an island or something - you can actually see the curve on the water!! He's literally filming the curve!! It's astonishing he keeps doing it!!
I've worked with HF radio. We have a series of frequencies assigned for each station. You can generally use the same frequencies for most of the time but every so often we need to use higher or lower frequencies, based on the s to status of the ionosphere, based on predictions made with the globe earth and heliocentric models. Why is there skip distance in HF communication if it is NOT bouncing off the ionosphere? Added to that I work on the coast. Why can I talk to aeroplanes at higher altitudes over the ocean with the same *really powerful* VHF radios that can't speak to planes the same distance, but lower in altitudes?
This is the best example of a curved surface that I challenge flat earth imagineers to debunk, but they can’t because they don’t have actual experience of using VHF radio and HF. Similar to you, I have experience of hearing aeroplanes talking to ATC, but I cannot hear the ATC response, because of the line of sight difference between the other aeroplane and the ground radio mast. It then no flat earthers are airline pilots so I will never find someone who can meet this challenge.
But Taboo Comspri .. Constr ... Constipation runs a flapp earpp uniFLersity, doesn’t he?! You can learn a lot about .... well, nothing there, if you slept through elementary school.
Funny how the guy that was zooming in and out on ships and boats that appear to be 3-6 miles away kept avoiding the oil tanker which was clearly at the point where its wake could no longer be seen because it had passed over the horizon. The other boats and ships sat at varying degrees from that point. And the cruise ship that he skipped over several times appeared to be well past that point. He very efficiently disproved flat-earth while claiming to prove it. Gotta love it.
If you could use the black swan image as “proof” of anything, all it would prove is the radius is larger than we think it is. It doesn’t disprove the fact that there is a radius.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel? Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel? May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant I don’t really watch SciManDan for education, though I usually manage to learn something. I have other channels for that. This is mostly for entertainment.
@@wraitholme I remember being in the back of my parents car at night and watching the moon “ keeping up with the car”. I asked Dad about it and in two minutes he explained the vast distances of space. It all made sense. I was about 5 years old
If, like me you have spent a large part of your professional life trying to find a frequency that would work as the sun started rising mid Atlantic in order to talk to Shanwick ATC, you would start to understand the complications involved with the height of the ionosphere (the D layer actually). It is an art that would simply not be necessary if the world was flat. Keep attacking Dan.
Had to laugh at the Dean Wright video. He said, regarding the first landmass, it was 22 miles away, but then claimed the small white boat is 25 miles away despite clearly being closer than the landmass lol.
Yes I know I live in the same area as Dean and have been to that beach many times those ships can not have been any more than 15 miles away as the furthest land is only about 22 miles away
Perhaps someone already said this - with 2.7k comments I’m afraid I don’t have time to read them all. My understanding of Knickebein is that the VHF frequencies they used don’t bounce off the ionosphere, nor follow the curvature in a ground wave (as LW and to a lesser extent MW do) hence the relatively short range of VHF radio transmissions. That is why British scientific advisors thought it would not work, but - as Wikipedia says - “It was subsequently realised that the argument over whether the beams would bend round the earth was entirely academic, as the transmitters were more or less in line-of-sight to high altitude bombers”.
On a clear day driving from Goodland Kansas to Denver on I-70 you can clearly see Pikes Peak come up from the horizon. This is obvious proof the earth is a sphere.
Across Lake Ontario you can see radio towers with warning lights that blink. On a calm clear night, stand 2 metres above lake level: the light is visible. Step down to lake level and the light is below horizon. Step back up 2 metres and there's the light again.
Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory is probably the greatest collection of Confidently Incorrect I've ever seen. Literally all you need to do to be a Flerfer is to not understand something and then do little to no research while claiming you know more than every expert on complicated subjects.
They all say the same thing. "I don't believe it!". Which roughly translates to " I haven't taken the time to study this subject and don't understand it!"
I like the way the flat earthers have simple explanations for things because they can't grasp complexity and need to dumb it down to feel intellectually superior. Honestly, I find the whole flat earth/conspiracy thing sad.
If that specific line that cuts though the bottom of those oilriggs is the horizon, then the text "1 foot above ground" is already a lie, the rig shows several meters from waterline to where the horizon "cuts", according to the law of perspective the observer can only be higher then that.
Hello all! Professional US storm chaser here who has studied meteorology. We are able to observe the jet stream through multiple methods. Those methods include weather balloon soundings, direct measurements from aircraft, and satellite observations. The jet stream most certainly looks exactly the way that person thinks “makes no [ __ ] sense.” Classic case of personal incredulity. Also some side-comments: First of all, there is no such thing as a “Doppler weather report.” Nowhere does anything remotely in resemblance of that name exist in any official capacity. Secondly, that ground-based radar has the capacity to disprove a flat earth in numerous ways. If only he knew ;)
“Catch my drift guys?”
Yup, at about 15 degrees per hour.
Thanks bob
🤣 never gets old
I would upvote you, but it’s currently sitting at 69 so I don’t dare.
Bob's 15 Degrees of (In)Fame(y)
Thanks Bob.
sick burn
I think by saying "afternoon all" to Arwin, you proved the existence of time zones which don't work properly on a flat Earth, so it was a totally legitimate reason for him to block you.
It would have been afternoon for both Dan and Arwijn so your argument makes no sense, just like Oakley's.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
But how do we explain CC Chris from Westchester New York and his "Good morning, good evening, good afternoon wherever you may be"?
I suppose in his mind it's where we lie under the circling spotlight that is the flerf Sun.
@@finesse49 arwijn is dutch is he not? depending on the timing it still could be legitimate.
@Vital Spark right, Dan is getting to the point where he can debunk an entire pseudoscience with a single sentence LOL.... loven that perspective man!
I think Nathan just likes arguing for the sake of arguing. He loves the sound of his own voice it seems.
Yes just a narcissist
He'd be the only one who does. X_x
He is just a greedy grifter
Nathan's nothing more than a condescending chuff nugget.
At this point I'm pretty sure he's a conman. Stupidity has its limit.
Here you go Dan, Dean's footage is taken from 56.10553369410957, -3.1574088472070323 all his distances are wrong. The hill he shows in this footage is North Berwick Law 56.048428112681755, -2.7148127570633758 at a distance of 17.5 miles and has a height of 614ft. The second white rock is Bass Rock 56.07780737517989, -2.640221194554174 at a distance of 20 miles and a height of 351ft. For reference, the two rigs at the end of his clip are just 7 miles away, so his guess at the little sail boat at 26 miles is just laughable. If the guy had any honour, he would post his location, time and date the footage was taken then look up the information on a few of the vessel finder websites and you could get a gps location for the ships in the footage.
Thanks for posting this. It gives context and depth to the fellow's lie.
😢
Still waiting on what should be the easiest "flat earth proof" of all, a map that accurately depicts distances.
You should not be holding your breath. :-)
I am working on that ....🤪
they have made a ton of maps, but none of them are accurate and work... is that good enough? lmao
How's it easy? To be certain it's accurate we'd need cartographers to literally go out and map the entire earth from scratch including restricted areas like beyond what they call the 66th parallel south since we can't trust the official maps. And often you can't even trust the distances that you're comparing the flat earth map with.
@@pjcnet Oh boy!! Did an actual flat earther respond to my comment? How exciting!
You don't need cartographers, I would except rough hand drawings as long as the distances were "close enough", say within 10% of correct distances. For distances between the Southern Continents I would even allow a 30% margin of error.
Also, I don't require a map of the entire Earth, so you don't have to worry about past the 66th parallel. Distances between the Southern Continents make a flat earth map impossible anyway.
If the Earth was in fact flat, then making a flat map of it would be easy. I wish you success in your endeavors!
Love how Oakley rants about zero earth curvature… over the picture of half a ship.
He may be the most toxic flat earther out there
Still a violence to the ears, though.
He’s so annoying and foul it makes you want to punch a wall and pierce your eardrums.
He's really hard to listen to without getting angry. It's that combination of smugness, aggressiveness and cowardice, because he would never talk to someone like that in any other setting.
He's like a walking talking(or rather screaming) RIP headphones users!!!
Typical globetard, you forgot about perspective, the Rayleigh criteria AND angle of attack, all of which prove Oakley is right because of .....reasons.
The jet stream argument proves 100% that for flat earthers to comprehend anything, it has to be simple and obvious. Anything which requires the energising of all of their four brain cells becomes a mental challenge much too dangerous to undertake while they are concentrating on breathing.
His argument was literally "this doesn't make sense to me cause I dont know, therefore it's wrong and FE is real"
It's sad cause that "map" that they use is so fuckin distorted. Like the Pacific Ocean is so damn wide for no reason.
There is no such thing as a working flat earth model. So his idea is nonsense.
The only answer for these people to shut them up is always, "You have a working model? Good, predict something with it, using only your model, the weather, the next lunar eclipse and who sees it, etc. Predict literally anything with accuracy and show the work, then maybe we'll listen."
The big problem with his jet stream idea is that he says the curvy jet stream doesn't make sense, but his spinning jet stream diagram doesn't match the measured jet stream at all. It would have it going over the U.S. in a static unchanging arc. That's not what the jet stream does.
@@justcallmekai1554 That's a great flat-Earth map he used because it shows we could fly from the U.S. to Australia over the North Pole in about eight hours instead of flying over the Pacific for fifteen hours. Wouldn't that be a great world to live on!
When I asked my Dad what he did during WW2 he replied "driving round the south coast of England in a Post Office van". What he was actually doing was surveying for locations to erect receiving stations to pick up "clean" signals from the German Knickebein transmitters on the other side of the water. These clean signals were then sent by landline to other transmitters well inside Britain (including the sound transmitter of BBC TV station at Alexandra Palace) and re-radiated, thus confusing the German pilots.
So I have a personal reason for being pissed-off at Taboo Conspiracy misusing the knickebein system in his attempt to debunk the globe.
Yes, the Wikipedia entry on his screen states that the British transmitted spoofed signals.
One of the receiver sites inland was at Birdlip, Gloucestershire. Not far from Malvern and the Radio and Radar Signals Research Establishment. Who Devised the Jamming. Coincidently a short distance from the Mast at Birdlip is one of today's ATC Transmitter Receivers.
@@lyndondowling2733Okay, Birdlip is my new favorite place name.
I burst out crying when he said that little sailing boat was PROBABLY 25 miles away 😅
You sure you weren't just _laughing so hard_ you cried?
His presentation in a nut-shell.
Yeah, they were obviously closer than the land was and the land was 22 miles away. The land had part of the bottom obscured but the boats didn't. How is that physically possible?
@@MaryAnnNytowl no I cried that hard I laughed 🙄
If he had checked the "Marine Traffic" app on his phone he would have known how far away it was.
Got to disagree with the “everyone gets there own reality”. You can have your own beliefs but not facts. Reality is not something you choose - it is what is. If you are (totally) blind you don’t get to believe there is no sun. If you are colorblind you don’t get to believe there is no color. But if you want to believe that these things are not important that you can do.
Especially since some people live in a reality that allows them to think certain people are inferior and don't deserve the same rights, or gay people should be imprisoned, or any number of horrible things. You are very correct! People with their own reality are sociopaths who alter their reality to suit their needs. It's dangerous!
@John Hartley Stop trolling please. If you want to do political BS on a thread were we are just noting that reality exists, may I suggest you press the little”x” on the top of the screen, go outside, and look up at the sky. Breathe the air. The world is not so bad. At night if it is dark enough there is a sky full of stars. And for each one there is a person dreaming of a better world. As long as you realize that those stars, planets and more are real- then you understand what we are talking about and you can find (I hope) a moment of pease. You clearly need it.
@@jasonsabbath6996 What you commented has nothing to do with the topic of the video or of the original comment you replied to.
Very, very true! A common confusion these days apparently: Relativism is a cancer, slowly eating away at the one-and-only "reality" that exists, attempting to fragment it into multiple "realities". Of course, that's just as impossible to do as to convince a flat Earther that "in reality" the earth is not flat! Sigh.
“I always take a camera”… but never a bloody tripod. Come on, Dean.
Or a map, or Google Earth on his phone, so he can tell us what he's looking at.
Dean has added all sorts of madness to his flerf credentials. Giants, Aliens and lots of other lunacy. I don't think he's ever heard a conspiracy and thought, 'Nope, that's mental!'
Getting seasick only watching this db
Do you really think a Flerf has the skills to set up a tripod?
@@fernleystephens2436 nope just dualpod :) cause flat see :)
Ah! The good old ‘I don’t understand it, therefore it’s not possible!’ argument!!
Beyond frustrating to watch... That is a debate chrusher. I fully understand why established science has great issue trying to form a dialoge with these people. It is simply not possible to do.
@@annespeeltvideogames these fe s are delusional they refuse to hear even common sense proof. Ego is a hell of thing to let go of
Oh, that's my favorite argument! If one says, "Because I don't understand it, it could not exist", they are also implying that the universe sprang into existence when they became conscious and the universe grew only because of their expanding awareness. That's not an Earth centered universe that's a THEM centered universe.
@@Robert08010 that would make for a lot off "MEverses" 🤣
He thinks that small sail boat is over twenty miles away? That’s some lens he’s got himself!
A mile at most. Dean - the man of imaginary distances.
All boats are twenty miles away according to flat earthers.
@@Mandelbrot_Set Being able to see boats 20 miles away obviously proves da Erf is a pizza with a radius of at least 12,400 miles (from the North Pole to the "ice wall," aka the South Pole).
Not only that but the steadiest hand I've ever seen to keep the boat in shot. At 20 miles a 0.01 degree angle change would be 18 feet or 5 metres in normal money. So that would be like trying to make sure the camera was still enough that you don't see a 1mm difference at arms length.
Just rewatching to see how much camera shake he actually does have. He can't keep it still on the island 22 miles away...... And he estimates that boat is 3 miles further away. How big are those men in that small(?) boat? So a rough estimate is that those men are something like 12 to 18 feet tall (if we presume those black blobs are all of them standing on deck). And the boat is about 125 feet tall. The giants are still among us, with their giant trees
even with a tripod the slightest touch at full zoom will cause shake, apparently these guys never looked through a telescope.....but i guess they would see astronomy as a waste of time cause its all fake
That sailboat was no fucking where near 26 miles away. I used to be a merchant marine deck officer. I was literally professionally trained to look out windows at sailboats on the ocean. I actually looked up that small tanker vessel, the Sea Ruby. It's a 78m long, 11m wide ship, so very small. That thing is a lot closer than it looks, because it's too small to look close, but it is close enough to read the name under zoom. If you can read the name off a ship with binoculars or a camera, you're very close - within 2 or 3 nautical miles at the extreme LONG end of the scale. In fact, when I was at sea, it was a common practice in open ocean to not get within 2 to 3 nautical miles of a large ship and to keep 1.5-2 miles away from smaller ships. In more restricted waters like certain parts of the Med, or in places like the Red Sea or Persian Gulf, we would decrease that distance to 1 mile to large ships. 1 mile separating 2 large ships is nothing. It's basically within spitting distance. At 26 miles, you wouldn't have seen the largest ship in the world sail by, even if it were in clear view because it's just so small. That sailboat... outside of about 5 or 6 miles away, without things like radar, extremely sharp or lucky eyesight, or a good sweep with optics, you don't even see them going by. If I were to honestly guess at real ranges to Sea Ruby and to that small sail boat I would guess more like 1 nautical mile to the Sea Ruby and maybe 1 and a quarter to the sail boat. Those 2 guys fishing are a few hundred meters away. I tried to get the name of the orange ship, but couldn't read it. It was too far away, even under high zoom, to be able to make out the words. It might have been a Stolt tanker, but they have many of those...
Sorry Dan but there are no silent "k" in german, he actually (within the limitations of his english accent) gets the pronounciation of "Knickebein" pretty spot on.
And BTW not having the sources linked anymore is really anoying for someone who wants to have alook at those channels just to see how far down the whole they went.
I was looking for this comment
If you're on a coastline where the sun sets into the sea, lie on the ground facing the sunset. At the second the dun disappears, stand up. You'll be able to see the sun again for a few seconds. Two sunsets in one day!
Similar concept:
Be on a boat. Sun "goes over the horizon" and the boat moves closer, then another sunset.
@Smee Self
A fishing trolley with multiple decks would do.
Given the flat Earther standard argument is that the Sun appears to set because it's moving away from us, then as you're standing up, it is still moving away, so they have to think of a way how it is suddenly close enough to see again whilst continually travelling away from you.
"On the higher floors, the sun can still be seen for several minutes after it has set at ground level. This has led Dubai clerics to rule that those living above the 80th floor should wait 2 additional minutes to break their Ramadan fast, and those living above the 150th floor, 3 minutes."
From the Wikipedia article on the Burj Khalifa, Dubai
@@RustyWalker
Cognitive dissonance would explain that.
If I worked on an oil rig that looked exactly like those on the Black Swan I'd be a bit bloody worried.
This gave me a good chuckle. Thank you
I would be afraid that if I walked out on the platform, my body would get all twisted up.
Yes. Salvador Dali wasn't exactly renowned for his brilliant constructional engineering work, was he...
They look like the Piper Alpha...
That Crain arm (I don't know if that is its proper name) looks like it picked up a SUOER heavy Load! It is toast as they say time to get a new one if it looks like that!!
Nathan’s still flogging the Black Swan? He really needs to go to Specsavers if he can’t see what’s wrong with it.
He knows full well what's wrong with it. He relies heavily on arrogance, bombast and his mute button to keep his herd in unthinking agreement, and having a popular picture works as long as they don't analyse it too much, or think too much about the counterpoints.
Its actually not called the "Black Swan". Its called the Squiggly-Wiggly.
I'm pretty sure Nathan is just a scammer using people's incredulity to take money from them.
@@OzoneGrif I think that's the case. He no more believes that the Earth is Flat than he believes water is made of microscopic Easter Bunnies.
He's in it for the fame and money. Think about it though: he loves the popularity he has with people he considers "morons", ie, Flat Earthers. How more pathetic can you get then that?
@@wraitholme That’s my biggest problem, literally the first second I saw it I could tell it was HEAVILY refracted.
It actually reminds me of visual effects from old games consoles because of how refracted it is.
The guy in the last video almost litteraly said: 'I don't understand this therefore it's wrong' and didn't even realise how wrong that is to say: just because I don't understand math doesn't mean that two and two isn't four. Like Dan usually says: bless him
That's the point flat earthers dont or rather cant understand simple science so they just make up there own
"I DON'T UNDERSTAND -EVOLUTION- THE ROUND EARTH AND I DON'T WANT MY KIDS TO UNDERSTAND IT EITHER!"
- Basically this guy
Two and two is 22?
That's usually their main driving force - they literally refuse to believe something they can't understand, and rather than admit a gap in their knowledge (which is nothing to be ashamed of) or God forbid try to properly educate themselves, they take the easy way out of sticking their fingers in their ears and going "Lalalalalalalala!!" Flat earthers are practically at the emotional maturity level of toddlers.
"Do you see the pattern here?"
Yes, you have a pattern of misunderstanding the information in front of you.
Oakley projecting again, accusing someone of cognitive dissonance.
Someone, please, call the irony police.
Hello, is that the irony police? Someone on the internet is accusing people of cognitive dissonance? You're busy? Well, after your grande caramel latte and donuts will do. He's not going anywhere soon. He's got some serious shilling to do before his siesta.
Someone should tell him what "cognitive dissonance" actually means. Disagreeing with Nathan is a sign of sanity. Cognitive dissonance is actually the holding of two diametrically opposite opinions at the same time. Hence "cognitive" + "dissonance".
Oakley is the living embodiment of a psychology text book. You could get a decent PhD thesis from his behaviour alone.
The irony police no longer respond to calls to reign in Oakley.
They are overworked.
I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
The faster I spew out word salad the more correct I am = Hectoring Nathan.
I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
*"It doesn't make sense - and that's a common sense fact!"*
The existence of flat earthers makes no sense to me either, yet you exist - despite of any common sense.
but but but..... JESUS SAID... wait no no The BIB says.... wait that was ours as well... hmm Hue says! ooo right that religion said the world was round and planted by hue
I love how he quickly avoids zooming (panning??) into the cruise ship way far away and with part of the hull below the horizon.
Nathan Oakley: "YOU CAN'T USE REFRACTION TO PROVE EARTH CURVE, YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE REFRACTION, YOUR EARTH CURVE MATHS CLEARLY DISPROVES REFRACTION WORKING!"
Also Nathan Oakley: "LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF REFRACTION PROVING FLAT EARTH!!"
Recently, Bob the Science Guy distilled a few figures from the dead swan picture and put them in an Earth curve calculator and came out with a .......... RADIUS! Wrong radius, but still a radius. 😀
Quoting Oakley in all caps is a bit too mild.
@@Soundbrigade Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant I use the channels as entertainment, as I have a university degree in physics, which makes so easy to see thru the lies of the flatheads. But I do watch ResearchFlatMoon (Bob the science guy) as he looks into the psychology and philosophy behind the FE argumenting
I swear every time I think I've seen the champion of the Dunning-Krueger effect, a new flat Earther comes along and snatches the title
The words "Research Flat Earth" should always be preceded by "For A Good Laugh"
Not sure if it's just me, but when I research flat earth, it makes flat earth make even less sense.
Well, I took it serious. As Flatearthers say, do your research and do an experiment.
Yup, I did the research, were are the flat earth model and globe earth model at most in conflict. The relative place in te sky for the sun at dawn and at dusk to any observer.
And I went on with an experiment. Place one stick in the grond or have nature do that for you in the form of a tree. Mark the shadow at sunrise and mark the shadow at sunset. Then measure the angle between those lines.
If we were living on a flat earth, according to them model the lines should have an 80 to 110 degree angle, when living on a spere the lines would be 180 degrees or at most 12 to 13 degrees deviating towards the north or the south.
And guess what? We are living on a globe/spere/ball earth, we always have been and we always will be.
@@erikblaas5826 Well done Eric, finally someone who understand what word research means. Now try to do a video of your observation and put it up as the earth is a globe proof with all the explanation and research materials. Good luck!
The guy at the end just changed the height of the jet stream readings by 20 kilometers, that's why it straightened out. What a dope.
As an amateur radio operator I love to see these guys try to act like the ionosphere doesn't exist.
@9:50 "Look at those two fisherman, I'll totally ignore the massive fucking ships that seem to be missing the bottom 2/3 of their hulls." Genius.
9:22 You must not be aware how low to the water the deck of a cruise ship is. Have you also never bee in the below waterline rooms where you can look out under the sea? LOL
@@Power5 You must not be aware that a boat will never have the water obscure the boat on a flat Earth, you would be able to see water behind the boat, like the fishermen. Ever been to the bottom of a river? (I don't know what this has to do with anything).
@@dk-bw4gk Sorry, my sarcasm did not come through in the post. Let me clarify. Flerfs are complete morons and know nothing about earth. Cruise ships float extremely high. The one at my timestamp is more like a yacht in height above water.
I don't know which one is worse, Nathan still do his "debate" or people still watch him live unironically
I wish people would stop going on his 'show' just to give him someone to mute and shout at. It's obvious he isn't interested in listening to anything. Stop giving him material.
Holy crap you're THE Cyan Lightning? I really love your stuff. Didn't expect to randomly stumble you on SciManDan of all places. /)
@@nomar5spaulding Oh hello there
Tied for worst place.
Jokely is hilarious 😂 he loves saying "cognitive dissonance" while being cognitively dissonant 🤣
Sadly, he just heard a big word and did what he's good at - repeating stuff!
And that voice, it's like an old banger being revved up, you just know it's going to explode any second now, and he never lets us down in that respect! 🤣
He is projecting his own issues for sure 😁
His voice isn’t as nearly annoying as Eric Dubay. That guys monotone delivery is as flat as his earth believes.
There is a lot of projection coming from Nathan Oakley.
@@danielschmaderer lol 😂 he always reminds me of the American Dad episode where Stan was sucked into a Liberal or whatever it was (my memory sucks lemons 🍋) and he listens to the radio and the host talks exactly the same, at first it drives him mad with all the pauses between words "doesn't he know what he's going to say next?! Doesn't he have it written down in front of him?!" 🤣
"and.... For... A measly... $30... Each month... You too... Can experience... The pleasure of.... Paying for... Radio..." AAARRRGGGHHH! 🤣
@@einienj3281 and @Alain Martel I agree, he's definitely projecting, and probably over compensating too, personally I think it's because he's so closeted that he'll explode if he doesn't, and we all know his stance on the LGBTQ community and he'd never want to be seen as a hypocrite 🤣 although he already kinda is 🙃
You gotta love how flerfs are now calling people anti-flat earthers when most flerfers are anti each other.
the word "globe" is just so enticing they need to avoid it or they might just convert someone.
"Everybody has the right to their own reality", and then makes up a bunch of nonsense, passes it off as facts and wonders why people don't treat him as an adult.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant Uhh, no. I've got plenty of science based channels already.
I'll be ok, thanks.
@@Paladwyn Great!
I'm happy to hear that.
Well, i would have been happy to hear the opposite, too, though... hmm... maybe I'm too easily
made happy? I should think about that!!
@@Paladwyn Can YOU recommend ME some nice channels then?
I'm always on the search for more, especially as one of the Best UA-camrs i know;
Hbomberguy;
is alwas making Big (and therefore Rare) Videos. Means, he posts rarely.
@@loturzelrestaurant I recommend Kyle Hill.
He is an excellent science communicator and does some really fun experiments and stuff with good math.
Dean should have kept the camera on the cruise ship sailing away from him and he would have seen go over over the curve. He just kept moving the camera around.
Yea I noticed the bottom of the cruise ship was starting to disappear but he didn't want to focus on that because it would not "fool" his followers
Yeah, but that ship was at least 2000 miles away! 😂
Nathan Oakley saying that "the horizon is Earth curve" is wrong. That is not the definition of "horizon." However, the horizon *is* caused by the curvature of the Earth. I have asked several flat earthers what mechanism causes the horizon in their fantasy world and how do you calculate its distance? I have yet to receive a straight answer to either question. That makes them hypocrites when they claim that the horizon is at the wrong distance in the real world.
The geometric or theoretical horizon is the *minimum* distance that the horizon can be. Nathan Oakley lied when he claimed that it is the *maximum* distance. The atmosphere gets a say in the matter.
In their mind, if they haven't personally done it, then no one could've done it.
So, in summary, the flerf "arguments" in this video boil down to:
Oakley: Arrogance and narcissism.
Dean: Inability to comprehend scale
Taboo Conspiracy: Cherry-picking
What Popster: Argument from Incredulity
Well done boys.
An excellent summary. ^^
If the Earth is flat then I'm sure it would be no challenge for a Flat-Earth to show us Africa while standing in Florida using a high powered telescope.
Or just a ship out to sea that's 50 miles away.
@@wraitholme Yet they never do it.
But then the claim is the atmosphere is blocking it…
And those distances change depending on the pictures or video.
@@cheshirecat3458 Oh yeah, it's definitely a silly rabbithole that one goes down if one forces them to defend their claims.
They don't quite explain why you can still see the upper part of the thing as it disappears over the horizon, despite it being the same distance away as the lower half (except for some ridiculous claim about how things disappear from the bottom up due to the 'angle of attack', which matches absolutely nothing that we know about light or vision). They don't explain how we can see things like aeroplanes or mountain tops at longer ranges than the ships that have disappeared. Or, you know, *the moon*. They don't explain why the thing then doesn't pop back into view when one uses a telescope...
I (somewhat) understand the psychology that makes a flat earther want to be a flat earther, but I don't understand how they can sustain it.
I can now imagine a bunch of flat
Earthers editing that part where Dan say: 'ice wall' and use it to say: ' Even Sci Man Dan knows the ice wall and flat Earth are real'
Ha! I said the SAME thing out loud as soon as he said that!! ; )
That is if they know how to use editing tools (Flerfer is like: wait editing tools? Let me look in my cupboard...). From what I've seen so far from flerfers videos, is that they only know how to plug the device they used to capture that video and upload the file as it is.
@@efkagamescomputers6886 Perfect example is CC Chris who should have edited out the time his wife walked past and berated him and he just had this absolute look of defeat on his face. Kind of like a puppy who got caught crapping on the floor. It was priceless. I am laughing just thinking about it again! Everyone else in the world would have edited that out.
@@Pete_R63 one cut when she walks in, another when she leaves, then an edit saying "sorry for the odd cut, someone was at the door" or something then move along. Literally like 5 seconds of work in editing software, and it even uses the things most basic tool! Kinda funny, but it also shows the mental capacity of these people.
@@Eric_The_Cleric Exactly! But, if he did that, he would have removed one of the greatest comic moments in FE video history! It breaks me up every time I see it. It ranks right up there with "A 15 degree drift-Thanks Bob!" I really want to feel bad for him but the saying, "If you invite abuse, it is impolite not to accept it" comes to my mind and he sent out a big, frilly, gold leaf embossed invitation to be abused.
Gotta love how the guy at 9:00 literally has ships in view that are moving away from him. But he doesn't share any footage of what those ships look like once they get far enough to actually start disappearing behind the curve. Gotta love these Flat Earth "Scientists" who never accept proof that is contrary to their baseless hypotheses. That's not how Science works.
But if the earth is round how come my shoes are flat
Big brain moment🤯
Your shoes are C G Eye.
My shoes' soles are slightly convex. Hollow earth confirmed!
@@simond.455 😯
Oakley is just a foul mouthed poe. It’s a blessing he’s dug deep in his own echo chamber and not freely mauling our hearing
Don't forget he's a Christian!
Is he not the flat earther who slapped his child on air? Freely mauls at home too.
@@j.hueston4370 . Yeah allegedly? One hatful man!
I can't stand the sound of his angry, whining, smug voice.
"Probably 25-26 miles away" My guy that's more like 6-7 miles.
Probably 25-26 miles away... and yet the boat with a mast height of about 30ft is clearer and almost as tall as the 250ft hills which are 22 miles away?
"Everyone is free to believe what I believe" is what he really wanted to say...
@Christa Simon I believe you :)
As a meteorologist, I thoroughly enjoyed that last one. The Doppler Weather Report…classic! He didn’t even look at Doppler Radar lmao!
Also, the jet stream is about 10-13 km up and he’s looking at 26 km. So far up dude!
What I think is kinda funny is the jet streams they show are going in two different directions
Wow, I'm early this time. Perfect to start the day!
Also, wtf episode 27 already? The delusion isn't ending anytime soon it seems..
Ignorance frequently begets confidence
Charles darwin
Flat earthers: The horizon is not exactly where simple geometry of a spherical earth tells us it should be. So we regard this as proof of a flat earth where there shouldn't be a horizon to start with.
Everybody else: You what now?
yeah and it even says on the calculator 'refraction approximation' and 'not accurate for observations over water very close to the horizon ...' .
Aand what was the observation height of the so-called 'Black Swan' - 1ft ffs!
Mick West and Walter Bislin were able to simulate the view pretty well in software just by plugging some values into the air temperature column. There seems to have been a temperature inversion on that day. Mick West made a video about it.
@@Mandelbrot_Set spot on, the wibbley wobbly oil rig photo has to be possible every single day to prove their argument. The fact that it is not the case, as shown by the more clear photo that refraction is having an effect. The next argument is that time is not an independent variable. Its almost like they are inventing a totally fake philosophy masquerading as science.
As soon as he mentioned Marconi, I thought, here we go he's gonna completely ignore the ionosphere,
which we learnt about in school in the seventies. And there we go. lol.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant Please do. I'm always ready to accept new concepts. 😀🖖
@@stevieduggan1763 Oh! I know so many! I love to share them!
@@stevieduggan1763
May sound a bit homework-like if i just list them, but whatever!
Here you go.
-Sci Man Dan.
-Veritasium.
-Zoo Tier.
-Its ok to be smart.
-Hbomberguy!!
-Kozmo.
-Practical Engineering.
-Viced Rhino.
-Belief it Or Not.
@@stevieduggan1763 Oh, and stick-figure-teaching-channel like
'Oversimplified' and 'CGP Gray' and kinda also 'Bluejay'.
Not wanting to overdo it... but... I GOT SO MUCH MORE! But i will wait for you to ask for more... to not be pushy...
Keep knocking them out SciManDan! We love it!! Top marks!
Can't wait for the flerfs to start claiming that Dan just "admitted" that there is an ice wall.
And as we all know, if someone on UA-cam says it, that means it's true
There is an ice wall (the correct terminology is "ice shelf), but it is not what the flat earthers think it is.
The ice wall is where the icebergs coming from.
ICE WALL!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱 Oh f***, I forgot I put a beer can in the freezer earlier .... Drink beer with a spoon, great!🤦
@@Soundbrigade Just dunk it in a pan full of boiling water, it'll thaw a bit then.
Legend has it there’s a wall of ice, defended by man. Beyond the wall is an unforgiving place, populated with a race of humans known as Wildlings.
Oh wait that’s game of thrones not real life.
And snarks and grumpkins and pack of ice spiders big as hounds!
It’s defended by penguins with AK-47. I know because I sold them some leftovers from the Peruvian-Mongolian war. The polar bears are said to making up a few panzer divisions to help the penguins with their duties.
Second guy is wild. Apparnelry the 250ft mountain is 22 miles away and the small sailboat is 26 miles away? But that would make that sailboat MASSIVE. Like mountain sized boat.
Maybe the mountain is VERY small ... 🤦
Well that's not really a mountain its a 613 foot high hill called North Berwick Law
I LOVE listening to Nathan get pissed.
SciManDan, the pronunciation of "Knickebein" with a non-silent "k" is actually correct.
"Knickebein" is a German word, and in German this "k" is pronounced.
Yeah, but Dan is from the british islands, all the folks there are hard tasked to speak english properly, much less anything else ;)
@@Ugly_German_Truths They're called the British Isles. Good job criticising our use of language whilst not actually labelling us correctly yourself
;)
@@lwo7736 So it's not called Pommyland?
Radio waves can bend and be reflected due to atmospheric effects. I used to have an old radiogram as a kid and it could pick up radio stations further away at night than it could during the day. Since I suspect the Earth does not change shape over night, the difference is atmospheric.
Actually, that is an intentional feature of "clear channel" AM stations. They are allowed to jack up their power at night while other stations have to lower theirs.
@@Mandelbrot_Set I am in the U.K. and not all the stations I could receive were in the US. I believe that clear channels are a US +Canada + Mexico thing
@@molybdomancer195 Okay. Was it medium wave, though?
Weather does the same thing. My dad spent several years on his ham (amateur) radio, chasing the bouncing waves from around the world, talking to many people, sometimes all the way around to the other side of the world, Northern and Southern hemispheres. He was very proud of his collection of postcards from all over!
Well, they weren't regular postcards, mind you. Ham operators get their callsign (sort of like pseudonyms on social media, but assigned to them by the amateur radio societies in various countries) on their own designs of postcards, with what could be their own drawings, their own pictures (like "local flavor" pictures) and the like, or just the 1970s and 80s version of Clipart pictures on them. His call was KA0CLY, and the 3rd digit, the zero, was an indicator of his area, sort of like the timezones, except for there's only 10 of them across the world.
Before that, he used to try to catch roaming television signals, too. He knew about them since he spent decades being a TV and radio repairman (way back when they just used vacuum tubes!), and knew how to adjust the TV tuner to bring them in. He had pictures of stations hundreds or thousands of miles away, like from Mexico when he lived in Missouri, USA. I've seen the pictures, and they're pretty neat! They were basically just round test patterns (if anyone remembers them, LOL! They were circular and had lots of specific patterns on them, including an "Indian head" [Native American], which let them adjust horizontal & vertical, amplitude, and all sorts of other broadcasting stuff), but looked so cool!
Anyway, that's probably a lot more than anyone wanted to know about radio and TV waves bouncing off of the atmosphere!
Venus has atmosphere so dense it can refract radio waves right around the planet.
Portuguese navigators know for 500 years that the Earth is round, and they have proved it by circumnavigating the Planet. Sadly Fernão de Magalhães died during the expedition
Just the fact they say "look how far they are", makes me realize they are just mentally incapacitated to comprehend the definition of "Scale"
As an amateur radio operator, I'm tempted to post a $100K challenge to anyone in Europe who can reach the US using 2M (144-148Mhz) without any repeaters. It's LITERALLY impossible.
Meanwhile, I can use a 10M (28-29.7Mhz) radio in the middle of the US (Kansas City) and reach Australia at 6pm Central US time because of the Ionosphere's bounce, but I can't do it at 6AM because the ionosphere will have changed shape due to NOT being influenced by the sun.
I loved how he kept talking about people's predictions of the day, as if they knew everything there was to how radio's work. Kind of like how everyone would have just known how airplanes worked before the Wright brothers proved it worked, right?
As a biologist it hurts so much to watch all those vulgar and offensive people failing at science. Kids with elementary education know better. Thanks for making these videos SciManDan. The way you address them is hilarious 😂🤣
I'm here to witness all their attempts at science fall FLAT once again
I see what you did there
I'm still here waiting for *ANY* flerf to provide a flat earth map that shows accurate day/night cycles at the same time as accurate seasons and at the same time show how 3 different southern continents all see the southern cross at the same time.
been almost 2 years so far, how many more years must I wait if the earth is "demonstrably flat"?
If the globe "conspiracy" has managed it, why can't the "flat earth truth" achieve the same feat?
Don't forget the eclipses!
I love how they want to prove a flat Earth by saying that they can see too far but they somehow forget to mention that the objects they're looking at are still partiality hidden behind... Something (which is obviously the curve)
Sometimes I want to hold a photography class for flat earthers, just so they can at least understand how to capture good images.
Some flattards say spheroidal camera lenses and even human eyes distort 'true' flat 'reality'.
Well, they are shit at everything:
audio, videography, editing, photography, logic, speaking, maths, their job, life...
That's why they are FE's.
I know people like that that blame their shitty life on anyone and anything but themselves.
Pathetic creatures.
Diificult to understand why they use cameras. Their common references are usually at least 250 years old, books, maps etc... Rgr
Hey Dan. German fan here. Hate to be a smartass, but the "K" in "Knickebein" isn't silent.
I learned in French class(teacher could speak several languages)there are no silent letters in German.
Oakley... oh man... If I had his face on a punching bag I would be the best boxer on the planet.
Did he really just use a picture of a ship with its bottom half hidden by the horizon?????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes typical slappy Oakley.
The leap of faith one must make to actually believe that an image as _appalling_ (refractionwise) as the Black Swan in any way could be used as valid evidence of a non-spherical earth. Just o. m. g..
As someone who has been personally called “anti-flat” by Nathan Oakley, I like to rebuttal with, I’m not anti-flat it’s more of not being anti-truth.
When they point the camera over the sea towards an island or something - you can actually see the curve on the water!! He's literally filming the curve!! It's astonishing he keeps doing it!!
I've worked with HF radio. We have a series of frequencies assigned for each station. You can generally use the same frequencies for most of the time but every so often we need to use higher or lower frequencies, based on the s to status of the ionosphere, based on predictions made with the globe earth and heliocentric models. Why is there skip distance in HF communication if it is NOT bouncing off the ionosphere?
Added to that I work on the coast. Why can I talk to aeroplanes at higher altitudes over the ocean with the same *really powerful* VHF radios that can't speak to planes the same distance, but lower in altitudes?
This is the best example of a curved surface that I challenge flat earth imagineers to debunk, but they can’t because they don’t have actual experience of using VHF radio and HF. Similar to you, I have experience of hearing aeroplanes talking to ATC, but I cannot hear the ATC response, because of the line of sight difference between the other aeroplane and the ground radio mast. It then no flat earthers are airline pilots so I will never find someone who can meet this challenge.
And this is what happens when you don't pay attention in school. You end up on the Flat Earth Fails Compilations!
But Taboo Comspri .. Constr ... Constipation runs a flapp earpp uniFLersity, doesn’t he?! You can learn a lot about .... well, nothing there, if you slept through elementary school.
If i ever have kids THATS wat im telling em
“facts don’t hurt points of views that are legitimate.”
-Tom MacDonald
Them blocking you says it all bro.
Funny how the guy that was zooming in and out on ships and boats that appear to be 3-6 miles away kept avoiding the oil tanker which was clearly at the point where its wake could no longer be seen because it had passed over the horizon. The other boats and ships sat at varying degrees from that point. And the cruise ship that he skipped over several times appeared to be well past that point. He very efficiently disproved flat-earth while claiming to prove it. Gotta love it.
Thank god this $500 camera debunked 70 years of space exploration. I’m convinced.
the last guy is literally "i dont understand therefore is not true" LOL
If you could use the black swan image as “proof” of anything, all it would prove is the radius is larger than we think it is. It doesn’t disprove the fact that there is a radius.
Cool... cool... buuuut it makes me wonder: I hope 'Sci Man Dan' aint your only education-channel?
Well, even if not your 'only one', its obvious that the learning never ends; so i wonder if i could recommend you some cool yt-channel?
May I?
@@loturzelrestaurant I don’t really watch SciManDan for education, though I usually manage to learn something. I have other channels for that. This is mostly for entertainment.
@@maxwellshammer5283 Nothing wrong with that.
Literally nothing!
@@maxwellshammer5283 BUT why stop there?
@@loturzelrestaurant When I want educational I’m usually watching astronomy or history. Or reading books.
"One thing flat earthers are really good at. Its failure."
Honestly, same.
I’m amazed this flat earther was able to zoom in and out consistently with his camera, how did he figure out how to operate it? :o
Dean conveniently disregards the massive cruise ship slinking beyond the horizon and happily points out the blokes fishing.
Oakley really gives me the creeps now, that voice, ugh
And, is this all flerf have got, hundreds of blurry photos?
Pathetic
He just gets my back up, his voice reminds me of a guy I arrested for domestic abuse.
Blurry photos that they still need to avoid giving any real analysis to, else it ends up demonstrating the opposite of their claim.
@@wraitholme I remember being in the back of my parents car at night and watching the moon “ keeping up with the car”. I asked Dad about it and in two minutes he explained the vast distances of space. It all made sense. I was about 5 years old
If, like me you have spent a large part of your professional life trying to find a frequency that would work as the sun started rising mid Atlantic in order to talk to Shanwick ATC, you would start to understand the complications involved with the height of the ionosphere (the D layer actually). It is an art that would simply not be necessary if the world was flat. Keep attacking Dan.
Had to laugh at the Dean Wright video. He said, regarding the first landmass, it was 22 miles away, but then claimed the small white boat is 25 miles away despite clearly being closer than the landmass lol.
Yes I know I live in the same area as Dean and have been to that beach many times those ships can not have been any more than 15 miles away as the furthest land is only about 22 miles away
Dude at the sea shore "panning" is at minimum 8 -10' above sea level
Perhaps someone already said this - with 2.7k comments I’m afraid I don’t have time to read them all. My understanding of Knickebein is that the VHF frequencies they used don’t bounce off the ionosphere, nor follow the curvature in a ground wave (as LW and to a lesser extent MW do) hence the relatively short range of VHF radio transmissions. That is why British scientific advisors thought it would not work, but - as Wikipedia says - “It was subsequently realised that the argument over whether the beams would bend round the earth was entirely academic, as the transmitters were more or less in line-of-sight to high altitude bombers”.
On a clear day driving from Goodland Kansas to Denver on I-70 you can clearly see Pikes Peak come up from the horizon. This is obvious proof the earth is a sphere.
Across Lake Ontario you can see radio towers with warning lights that blink. On a calm clear night, stand 2 metres above lake level: the light is visible. Step down to lake level and the light is below horizon. Step back up 2 metres and there's the light again.
Flat Earth Conspiracy Theory is probably the greatest collection of Confidently Incorrect I've ever seen.
Literally all you need to do to be a Flerfer is to not understand something and then do little to no research while claiming you know more than every expert on complicated subjects.
"Upgraded to flat earth 2.0" 🤣 I'm glad you cut it there Dan, I need to breathe! 🤣
well they had to upgrade to 2.0, because flat earth 1.0 was never proven, lets see if 2.0 makes more or less sense then before lol
I'm yet to be convinced that Adam is an accomplished crane driver.
I’m not! How can cranes fly if the gravetty is so strong?! 🤔
"Flat earth" is the punch line to a very bad joke about misguided belief systems.
They still think "the black swan" is valid!? 🤣
one picture that seems to show there's no horizon - irrefutable proof of a flat earth
millions of pictures that show a curve - all fake
"They still think "the black swan" is valid!?"
It's almost as if there's no fresh material available to support their notions.
I love how Dean ignores the large vessel on the far left that is obviously disappearing over the horizon 👿
Love that in Dean's video you can clearly see about half a deck of the cruise ship he doesn't want to focus on is behind the horizon 😂
Yes. That detail is just so, so cute.
They all say the same thing. "I don't believe it!". Which roughly translates to " I haven't taken the time to study this subject and don't understand it!"
I like the way the flat earthers have simple explanations for things because they can't grasp complexity and need to dumb it down to feel intellectually superior. Honestly, I find the whole flat earth/conspiracy thing sad.
2:56 Ah yes, that left oil drilling platform's left crane looks crystal clear to me, no refraction going on whatsoever 🤔😓.
If that specific line that cuts though the bottom of those oilriggs is the horizon, then the text "1 foot above ground" is already a lie, the rig shows several meters from waterline to where the horizon "cuts", according to the law of perspective the observer can only be higher then that.
I love a good flerf fail compilation ❤️
"Probably 25, 26 miles away."
I wonder if he has also issues with inflating the length of male body parts.
“Actually, in centimetres….no, you’re not that big” as his ex said to him
Flerfer scant scale, can’t unit, can’t measure….
Probably have to zoom in to see that as well!
@@jasonsabbath6996 Zoom or "pan"?
Saucy!
@@johncatty6560 "tilt"
"they are good at failure"
Steven's dad (face of Beijing Corn): breathes heavily
Hello all!
Professional US storm chaser here who has studied meteorology.
We are able to observe the jet stream through multiple methods. Those methods include weather balloon soundings, direct measurements from aircraft, and satellite observations. The jet stream most certainly looks exactly the way that person thinks “makes no [ __ ] sense.” Classic case of personal incredulity.
Also some side-comments:
First of all, there is no such thing as a “Doppler weather report.” Nowhere does anything remotely in resemblance of that name exist in any official capacity.
Secondly, that ground-based radar has the capacity to disprove a flat earth in numerous ways. If only he knew ;)