Vinnie Stigma of Agnostic Front: The Godfather of Hardcore (A HardLore Film)

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  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
  • HardLore is honored to be joined by the Godfather of hardcore himself: Vinnie Stigma from Agnostic Front.
    A true pioneer of the genre and a living legend, Vinnie took us around his neighborhood in New York City, including the world famous former home of the legendary venue CBGBs. We learned all about his early days as a punk rocker, making the jump to hardcore, how much he misses playing in Madball and SO much more in these incredible 2 hours of the hardest lore yet.
    There's possibly no hardcore today without Vinnie and Agnostic Front's contributions to the genre, and there's certainly no HardLore.
    They say never meet your heroes.. They've never met Stigma.
    We can't thank everyone involved enough for making this happen.
    Vinnie, Mike Dijan, Tom Sheehan, our special guest co-host Dan Seely, Producer Andie Andres, PA Aaron Warman, and the incredibly talented Rob Menzer for bringing this insane journey to life.
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    Episode Preview - 0:00
    Intro - 0:26
    St. Patrick's Cathedral - 1:58
    The Ravenite's Club - 11:38
    Vinnie's Stomping Grounds/Childhood - 15:21
    CBGB - 25:27
    Sally Donuts - 33:33
    Murder Incorporated - 35:59
    The First Pizzeria In America - 42:29
    Pardon this interruption... - 43:37
    Tour Stories & Pizza - 45:50
    Don Fury - 58:12
    Vinnie's Legendary Apartment - 1:03:11
    Robin Williams - 1:11:16
    Starting Madball with a 12 Year Old Singer - 1:14:06
    NYHC Tattoo - 1:17:41
    Would he play in a new band? - 1:19:30
    "You can only lose honor." - 1:2236
    Paulie the beer drinking dog - 1:25:13
    Matt Henderson - 1:28:10
    Cause for Alarm - 1:29:50
    Witnessing the Evolution of Moshing - 1:31:05
    Vinnie's Top 4 Hardcore Records - 1:35:20
    "Who do you do?" - 1:37:00
    The Golden Arches Question - 1:37:48
    Ghosts... - 1:41:10
    Final thank you's and goodbyes - 1:42:49

КОМЕНТАРІ • 221

  • @LILDIRTNAPX
    @LILDIRTNAPX 11 днів тому +120

    Bo speaks...
    Vinnie: Anyway...

  • @thomaswaldron3865
    @thomaswaldron3865 11 днів тому +160

    by default. this is the best episode.

  • @mauriciolopez4855
    @mauriciolopez4855 9 днів тому +28

    I used to play in a hardcore band in El Salvador in the early 2000s. Somehow, one of our shirts and our album made it all the way to Mr. Vinnie Stigma. He sent us a picture of himself wearing the shirt, and that was a major highlight in our career. It was incredible for us, a band from a third-world country, to see a true legend like him rocking our merch.
    Best episode ever-it's going to be hard to top this one!

  • @DrewKane
    @DrewKane 11 днів тому +45

    The story he tells at the church is one of the most fascinating bits of Italian-American Roman Catholic history I have ever heard. It could be a whole movie itself; the story of a young kid with an idol of a saint, being chased down by the mob.

    • @JohnEvans-xg2bp
      @JohnEvans-xg2bp 10 днів тому

      @@DrewKane honestly, it could be the story of a Saint too in its own weird way. Saint Vincent Stigmata, who kept a sacred piece of cultural heritage out of the hands of a scumbag like Gotti.

    • @JohnEvans-xg2bp
      @JohnEvans-xg2bp 9 днів тому +5

      @@DrewKane Saint Vincent Stigmata of NYHC

    • @BIGxBOSSxx1
      @BIGxBOSSxx1 5 днів тому

      Writing a mob movie based off this right the fuck now

  • @joaocarlosmartinramosjr9782
    @joaocarlosmartinramosjr9782 11 днів тому +92

    Stigma not wearing the cap inside the church. True Gentleman.

  • @jbasti227
    @jbasti227 11 днів тому +51

    Every time Vinnie says “anyway” in response to someone kills me, especially 34:26 😂

  • @pollockdown4213
    @pollockdown4213 6 днів тому +7

    The fact the last cup of coffee didn't have enough to fill the cup all the way and Vinnie took it right away so the boys would all get full cups speaks volumes on that man's character. Idk why, but it just does, fuhgeddaboudit

  • @JohnEvans-xg2bp
    @JohnEvans-xg2bp 11 днів тому +90

    I know Bo and Colin are not people of faith, but I deeply appreciate how respectful they are towards Vinnie as he shares about his faith and how it sustained him.
    There are those of us out there who do believe in a higher power, but instead of trying to control people, we work to make sure that higher power is known through justice making, serving, and loving one another.

    • @fcaioki7949
      @fcaioki7949 11 днів тому +16

      It’s the hardest and holiest of lore

    • @plumbunrecords518
      @plumbunrecords518 8 днів тому +3

      They have that open and accepting attitude to non straight edge folks as well. Genuine chaps they are 🔥

    • @JohnEvans-xg2bp
      @JohnEvans-xg2bp 8 днів тому +2

      @@plumbunrecords518 Amen to that. I'm not Straight Edge myself, but I quit drinking in 2021, and as a Chaplain and a minister, I am all about any ethic or faith that helps folks lift themselves up from self destruction. Lord knows I've definitely listened to a few straight edge songs to never touch poison again.

    • @caffeinatedinsanity2324
      @caffeinatedinsanity2324 7 днів тому +2

      ​@@JohnEvans-xg2bpI share that same train of thought. Not straight edge but still learned a lot through that. Tbh I drink on occasions when going out with friends, but no alcohol goes in my home anymore. That's a sacred rule of mine.
      Also, shout out to all hardcore and punk crews.

    • @nickgalea82
      @nickgalea82 4 дні тому +1

      I'm not a man of faith myself, but I have a great deal of respect for those who can be but also can respect others choice not to. I always figured that one's choice of spirituality and faith (or lack thereof) was a deeply personal thing and trying to force one's choice onto other's isn't cool.
      Wishing you all the best with leaving the drink behind dude.

  • @jacobv3155
    @jacobv3155 11 днів тому +26

    This episode is sooo amazing. Stigma showing and talking about everything in the neighborhood is the best. This should win some kind of 2024 podcast award.

  • @DH-hl5tc
    @DH-hl5tc 11 днів тому +21

    THE definition of NYHC. From the beginning til the end, he's been there. Nothing but respect for this man and his undying love of HC.

  • @brentericson7447
    @brentericson7447 11 днів тому +30

    Take a drink anytime Vinnie says "fahgetabowdit"

  • @careful__Icarus
    @careful__Icarus 7 днів тому +6

    Vinnie is really a fine ambassador/tour guide for old NY. Such a personable,colorful guy. He can sure bring these stories to life. This was such an enjoyable video.

  • @JoeyDunsey
    @JoeyDunsey 11 днів тому +72

    I would love to see Vinnie and Joey Diaz have a conversation.

    • @marc3d
      @marc3d 8 днів тому

      whos joey?

    • @careful__Icarus
      @careful__Icarus 7 днів тому

      That would be epic. They're both are of that old NY generation. They were there when it was a tight knit community thru to thethe crooked cess pool that it became. And now the hipster land it is unfortunately.

  • @DrTabarnak
    @DrTabarnak 11 днів тому +39

    Crazy you guys just keep running into Dan Seely like that. How!?

    • @fcaioki7949
      @fcaioki7949 11 днів тому +2

      It’s also insane how they’re mic’d up already!! LIKE WTF!!!😳

    • @the_real_tay_loud2072
      @the_real_tay_loud2072 11 днів тому +2

      Dan gets around nyc😂 dudes in the cut at every coffee shop

  • @joebreakerx
    @joebreakerx 11 днів тому +24

    The story about the Pete Steele Magazine prank is amazing.
    Voorhees played a few UK shows with AF in the 90s and decided to prank Vinnie by telling him that when it comes to money in the UK "the bigger the coin the higher the value", so he was cherishing all these 2p coins over £1 coins haha, legend.

    • @notreally-sf3df
      @notreally-sf3df 11 днів тому +3

      Hahah that's amazing. The dude who was on last week has an amazing Stigma prank story too.
      Remember that old pre youtube meme video of the dog doing another dog and vomiting?
      Tom didn't know if Stigma would remember him after seeing him 15 years after Indecision toured with AF. Stigma comes up to Tom going "hey kid, you still got that video of the two dogs fucking and one of them vomiting?". Tom remembers that everyone had it on their laptop and tries to figure out if they showed it to him or something, all while Stigma goes "i've got my eyes on you, kid" multiple times over the night. Later on realizes the timeline didn't add up at all, so Stigma just linked him to a loose date, said that and had him think about it all night.
      So fucking funny.

    • @misanthropist3
      @misanthropist3 11 днів тому +2

      Voorhees were great

    • @joebreakerx
      @joebreakerx 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@misanthropist3 Voorhees also had a run in with *Robin Williams* in NY too. They saw him in the street and approached him for a photo, Robin apparently in a pretty shit mood just said 'Fuck Off' when one of them tried to sneak a pic with him... so off they fucked.
      BUT a few moments later they suddenly see Robin Williams running towards them, where he proceeds to genuinely apologize, chat for a while (mimicking their accents) and take some photos (including literally taking a photo of Voorhees without him in it haha)

  • @MadBall96
    @MadBall96 11 днів тому +11

    Saw AF like 2 weeks ago in Munich Germany and Stigma is still a machine at this age. Guy has more energy than most teenagers today and is a big inspiration for many people. Peace

  • @kevinb7126
    @kevinb7126 10 днів тому +6

    Could listen to Vinny all day he’s a walking lesson in NYC History he represents a city that doesn’t exist anymore now filled with Whole Foods and Chipotles .

  • @juliansosa4764
    @juliansosa4764 10 днів тому +5

    Stigma constantly saying “ok anyway” to Bo is hilarious

  • @herbivore7108
    @herbivore7108 11 днів тому +9

    Hands down best Hardlore episode yet!

  • @mydudechris
    @mydudechris 11 днів тому +4

    I have a picture with Vinnie and Roger when I was 15 that has never left whatever bedroom in residing in for 18 years, absolute legend.

  • @gmazzo
    @gmazzo 10 днів тому +8

    Who cares about hardcore, I want to listen to Vinnie's church history all day long lol great episode

    • @kevinb7126
      @kevinb7126 10 днів тому +1

      Whispering with his hat off like a good Italian boy .

  • @benjaminthiele7474
    @benjaminthiele7474 11 днів тому +5

    Respect to Stigma for taking his hat off in Church.

  • @misanthropist3
    @misanthropist3 11 днів тому +4

    Finally, early 80's hardcore. My favorite era of hardcore. This is easily the best Hardlore Episode, great episode interviewing the legend Stigma! Loved hearing all his stories.

  • @sMoKEy131
    @sMoKEy131 11 днів тому +9

    Two minutes into the episode I realized that this must be the best Hardlore episode yet! 🎯
    I was also at the Dynamo Eindoven in 1995. The ticket cost 25 guilders (€13) back then. That was the first time I saw Madball. (also Type O Negative, Machinehead and Nailbomb) Best concert ever ..117k people and no cell phones !

    • @sMoKEy131
      @sMoKEy131 11 днів тому

      The fact that Vinnie likes "The Stranglers" made me very happy. I have all the records here and love the old stuff! Underrated Goat Band (for me)

  • @montydeaton8581
    @montydeaton8581 11 днів тому +5

    That was awesome Vinnie is the best he took me to see Warzone a treasure memory thanks Vinnie

  • @innercityuprising8353
    @innercityuprising8353 13 годин тому

    Hung out with the lads in 1998 briefly on there first Australian tour. Proper gentlemen. True Godfather!

  • @harrycorrigan6453
    @harrycorrigan6453 11 днів тому +4

    5 minutes in and this is the best ep of hardlore easily

  • @xsiafiredex
    @xsiafiredex 11 днів тому +2

    I didn’t want this to end. What a gem of an episode! Well done for getting this arranged. This truly was a legendary episode:)

  • @StageDiveYoga
    @StageDiveYoga 9 днів тому +1

    Stigma gave so many real life lessons about respect, love, looking out for others, doing things right and being honorable. This is hardcore. ❤️

  • @user-xr4tz6vu4m
    @user-xr4tz6vu4m 7 днів тому +1

    I have met Vinnie Stigma many times in my HC show days and he was always so respectful to me. I cherish my photos with him, a true gentleman, every time. I was one of the few females in our hc scene back in the early 90s. ❤

  • @christopherthacker4002
    @christopherthacker4002 11 днів тому +5

    As someone who grew up watching the metal documentaries and all the stuff on vh1 classic i can't tell you guys enough how cool it is that y'all captured that exact vibe for hardcore. This is not just an episode this is like a film it's just so cool what you guys are able to do and I can't thank you enough for doing it

  • @sunpeaksturner
    @sunpeaksturner 5 днів тому

    Thanks Vinnie..you are a true legend..and nothing but mad respect..AG and Madball are two of my favourite bands…thank you for sharing your thoughts and your neighbourhood..NYHC for life..🤘🏽
    From the west coast of Canada

  • @zangeejoe
    @zangeejoe 11 днів тому +5

    Saint Vinnie 🙏

  • @subtractvoid_
    @subtractvoid_ 9 днів тому

    This is the best episode and it isn't close. Thank you, Hardlore for this.

  • @user-dy9dx5lc5m
    @user-dy9dx5lc5m 11 днів тому +3

    Never thought I’d see a hardlore interview in a cathedral. So wild and interesting !

  • @chains1108
    @chains1108 10 днів тому

    This is an amazing piece. Great work thank you for doing this and capturing these moments. Vinnie is stigma has legendary persona

  • @zakk219
    @zakk219 9 днів тому

    This is awesome. Vinnie seems like a great guy and the interview was incredible. Great job, guys. Don't know how you guys are gonna top this one.

  • @TheBUDoubleT
    @TheBUDoubleT 11 днів тому +2

    Loved every second of this episode. Was on Wikipedia every couple minutes reading up on the lore he was talking about (re: Murder Inc). 10/10

  • @ShameBunny
    @ShameBunny 8 днів тому +1

    This is so so good. Could watch hours and hours of this

  • @EDELGADO11574
    @EDELGADO11574 День тому

    that was an awesome interview. Thanks!

  • @Nottherealsal
    @Nottherealsal 11 днів тому +1

    I live in NY and the most NY thing that's ever happened to me was leaving a Madball show and seeing Vinnie Stigma taking pictures around the block.

  • @Jimmy-oq9zq
    @Jimmy-oq9zq 6 днів тому +1

    That Underdog shirt is CLASSIC.

  • @scott42599
    @scott42599 11 днів тому +2

    Easily the most interesting video yet. Could listen to Vinnie tell stories for hours

  • @DevilsHornsZine666
    @DevilsHornsZine666 10 днів тому +1

    Beautiful and as important as the Godfathers of hardcore doco,,,thanks for doing this

  • @cvhc869
    @cvhc869 11 днів тому +6

    Give respect

  • @MarkButler-ft3vp
    @MarkButler-ft3vp 10 днів тому +1

    This was so comforting to watch. an ADHD KING!

  • @raymondhebert9049
    @raymondhebert9049 11 днів тому

    All time legendary episode congrats on this one!

  • @itsonlyalex3254
    @itsonlyalex3254 11 днів тому

    one of the coolest episodes of Hardlore to date.

  • @jellodeth3993
    @jellodeth3993 8 днів тому

    This is the best thing on the interwebs.. well done 👊

  • @hannahkozlovic1715
    @hannahkozlovic1715 11 днів тому

    This is amazing, I’ve been hoping to see AF on the show for a while. Something’s Gotta Give was the first hardcore album I ever listened to, of course I love em to this day. Stigma has got some serious lore

  • @briandonahue3663
    @briandonahue3663 6 днів тому

    This was so awesome! Vinny is the Real Deal! .

  • @lowend
    @lowend 11 днів тому +3

    Stigma IS NYHC!!!!! Some amazing sights and stories here!

  • @PompRicci-rl5qr
    @PompRicci-rl5qr 8 днів тому

    Fantastic NYCHC Series, thank you for that!!! Vincent Cappucio!!! What a person

  • @CMox727
    @CMox727 7 днів тому +1

    the ending :') incredible videos

  • @dinkins335
    @dinkins335 8 днів тому

    This was AMAZING!!!

  • @beartyler
    @beartyler 11 днів тому +1

    God damn Vinny's schedule was jam packed on Sundays

  • @user-cc9bq1nr7c
    @user-cc9bq1nr7c 11 днів тому +1

    Met vinny at my job last year. One of the kindest gentleman ive ever met 👍

  • @danzilor
    @danzilor 10 днів тому

    Probably my favorite episodes of the show!

  • @davedrill
    @davedrill 10 днів тому

    There's no words how good this was...

  • @hawneyman
    @hawneyman 11 днів тому

    Sick episode 🤘

  • @drugzdelaney5760
    @drugzdelaney5760 10 днів тому

    As someone who saw Vinnie in Madball! I’d love to see it again

  • @buggzda
    @buggzda 5 днів тому

    This should have millions of views

  • @JamesMacaroni
    @JamesMacaroni 11 днів тому +1

    What an absolute legend

  • @dirtybeard70_Alivein85
    @dirtybeard70_Alivein85 6 днів тому +1

    Great fkn video. Seriously. Hail Vinnie. Im new here. And the guy wearing the Celtic Frost shirt a big HAIL

  • @SteeN3R
    @SteeN3R 11 днів тому

    This should go in a hardcore museum somehow. Growing up in NYC its amazing watching people witness this stuff for the first time. The amount of culture even on one block is more than some states have

  • @TheChristcarrier
    @TheChristcarrier 7 днів тому

    I could listen to Vinnie for hours

  • @jakebellaire
    @jakebellaire 11 днів тому +1

    Didn't think Vinnie could be any cooler until he pulled out the Steelers coffee mugs

  • @kookadams85
    @kookadams85 8 днів тому +1

    There's no o.g more of an o.g than an Italian. 💯. I'm half Italian so I can say that. Stigma is a legend of legends. I ain't the biggest a.f zealot but he's good people. 🇺🇲🎼

  • @lpg4287
    @lpg4287 5 днів тому

    We need more of these episodes

  • @kevinhegarty5775
    @kevinhegarty5775 5 днів тому

    Fn Vinnie is awesome. This is exactly how he always is. Mad cool

  • @screemin187
    @screemin187 8 днів тому

    Brilliant!

  • @dinkins335
    @dinkins335 8 днів тому

    Love the Peter Steele mentions. He was a gem!

  • @stum7396
    @stum7396 8 днів тому

    What a beautiful gent Vinnie is. Respect. 🙏

  • @JEG1988
    @JEG1988 11 днів тому

    What a banger to drop on the 4th July!!
    None other than the GW of hardcore 🇺🇸

  • @Dayman420
    @Dayman420 2 дні тому

    I feel like everyone’s got rose tinted glasses for this episode because he’s a legend.
    He’s so boring to listen to it’s crazy, he could be telling me the secret to being happy forever and I’d probably still not want to listen.

  • @imLandon1
    @imLandon1 11 днів тому +2

    Coolest dude on the face of the planet

  • @EmanuelSabinonamasteskater
    @EmanuelSabinonamasteskater 11 днів тому +1

    One of the mega OGs

  • @renaudfavarel7240
    @renaudfavarel7240 День тому

    we love you Vinnie

  • @CSkibaRun
    @CSkibaRun 11 днів тому

    Okayyy yall gettin in your bag with that intro

  • @Thonggdelonge
    @Thonggdelonge 11 днів тому

    HANDS DOWN the greatest. ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ANNIHILATION13487
    @ANNIHILATION13487 11 днів тому +3

    reusing the same intro joke for all of these episodes is next level comedy

  • @darXcore
    @darXcore 4 дні тому

    The man, the myth the legend.

  • @Nottherealsal
    @Nottherealsal 11 днів тому +3

    Mike's voice sounds like the NYHC version of Lars Ulrich but more coherent

  • @anarchy_burger_
    @anarchy_burger_ 4 дні тому

    Connie Stigma is a national treasure

  • @SchmanteZuba
    @SchmanteZuba 5 днів тому

    I've always heard Vinnie was a great guy. One of my hometown heroes and friend, Brian Craig - drummer, played with Turmoil and toured Europe with Vinny in the early 90s. I think it was Madball, not AF. The stories he told about drinking and hanging out with Vinnie where the Berlin wall had been... great stuff. RIP Brian, always remembered and always loved.

  • @Carlo.WTF416
    @Carlo.WTF416 11 днів тому

    This NYHC series of episodes may have single handedly made me start wearing my OG CBGB shirt again. Got that shit from the bar on a 12th grade class trip to NYC in 2005 😂

  • @ZachyStugotz
    @ZachyStugotz 6 днів тому

    Vinnie starts the show by taking them St. Patrick's Cathedral and introducing them to Saint Rocco of Genoa. That Italian-Catholic heritage, it runs deep, even for those who are no longer a part of the church (like myself). Incredible stuff. Hardlore.

  • @IamTyler3
    @IamTyler3 11 днів тому

    Class act.

  • @42itous
    @42itous 10 днів тому

    STIGMAAA! Dude's got stories and riffs for days

  • @madjixxy
    @madjixxy 7 днів тому

    amazing

  • @Federico.el.Noruego
    @Federico.el.Noruego 11 днів тому +1

    Stigma🤘🏼🔥Hardlore Rules🤘🏼🔥

  • @Mistergorehound
    @Mistergorehound 7 днів тому

    What an episode. This is gonna be a tough one to beat! Vinnie making you guys coffee and surviving up fresh cannolis in his apartment? Fuckin amazing!

  • @codectalker398
    @codectalker398 11 днів тому +3

    I tried to tip Seely 10 bucks at a King Nine show buying merch and he just said "No".

  • @jordancornell9364
    @jordancornell9364 10 днів тому +2

    lol tom sheehan in the background trying not to look at some point

  • @kev2o560
    @kev2o560 11 днів тому +1

    Don't think this can be topped, 🙏

  • @markgeissler32
    @markgeissler32 5 днів тому

    This is the best episode and Stigma is an absolute legend. However, there are three live AF records from CBGB, not two.

  • @panarexia
    @panarexia 11 днів тому

    this is crazy

  • @RigSquad
    @RigSquad 11 днів тому

    I remember the don fury sessions Glassjaw demo too that’s epic

  • @renoops1120
    @renoops1120 5 днів тому

    "It was December the 21st....."
    "Hey, that's my mom's birthday!"
    "Wow, really? So anyways......"

  • @queenscomicparty
    @queenscomicparty 10 днів тому +1

    i love this man. ive known him since i was 13. his a mets fan. dont believe what he says lol