Speaking A Foreign Language With A Native Accent | Lamont (Days And Words) & Loïs Talagrand
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
- The conversation revolves around the topic of accent reduction and pronunciation. Lamont and Loïs discuss the importance of sounding like a native speaker and the desire to have good pronunciation. They also touch on the idea of accents being exotic and how it can be appealing to some people. They share their personal experiences with accent reduction and the methods they use to improve their pronunciation. Not only that, but they also discuss the fear of sounding off or weird when speaking with a non-native accent.
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This is a good little clip that you've singled out!
BTW, I don't know if it came up in the longer conversation, but yeah I don't think that I would ever think you were not native in English... Having said that, I'm not American so I can't always hear the most subtle things. But you're definitely a very good example of reaching an extremely high level in your non-native language. 😎
Fascinating discussion. Merci. As a native English speaker from the USA, living in German speaking Switzerland, knowing German, French, Italian, and modern Greek, I've thought a lot about accented speaking. Loïs, your pronunciation in this short clip is flawless and indistinguishable from a native American speaker. Lamont has a much more noticeable Australian accent. I think there are 4 levels of accented speech (assuming the speaker is otherwise competent): 1. unintelligible, 2. difficult to understand, 3. accented but intelligible, 4. accent-free. I've met English learners who can write and read English well, but I can't understand a word they are saying (and I am not talking about folks from western Scotland). I've also met a few English learners who speak exquisitely beautiful English, including you, Loïs. Me personally, I strive to speak other languages without an accent and come close. Why not? I don't think ego has anything to do with it. For me, speaking a foreign language is like learning any other skill. I want to do as best as I can do.
A voice cannot be accentless. Do you mean a native accent?
@@rob9665 Excellent question. Thank you. Let's take my mother tongue, English. When I hear someone speak English *with the same accent with which I speak English,* I don't hear an accent. It sounds neutral or normal to me. As a child, I spoke with a strong Bronx accent. As an adult I speak with a broadly neutral, mid-Atlantic, highly educated accent, the US equivalent to the British Received Pronunication. When I hear another native speaker of English who does not share my *neutral* accent, I certainly hear an accent, whether it is Appalachian, Texan, British, Brooklyn or Boston. So, my 4th category should have been: "speaking a language with an accent indistinguishable from the language spoken by a given group of native speakers." Boy, that's a mouthful. So, in this video clip, Loïs speaks the same "dialect" of English which I speak, hence, I hear no accent. Lamont speaks moderately accented English to my ears, which once in a while I can't understand without subtitles. I speak German well enough that I can place many regional accents and can hear when someone speaks German with a Swiss-German, English, French, Arabic, or Russian accent. Thanks again for a great question.
Love that rooster cockadoodledooing in the background
J'avoue que ton anglais est vraiment bon. Je dirais tu as quasiment un niveau C2 c'est une belle realisation 👏👏
I think he sounds very close to native.
Another reason to want to achieve a native accent is, like for me, I’m hispanic but did not grow up speaking Spanish. Now that I’m older I want to learn and you will find greater acceptance from your own people if you speak more like a native.
At what age did you start working on your accent? How do you work on it?
Can't help noticing how you seem to be more self-conscious about mimicing a native-like accent than actually constructing your speech in a more articulate way. Working on losing the habit of starting every other sentence with "I feel like" and using fillers like "like", "but um...", "so um..." excessively would work wonders for you as a learner of the language that aspires to be the best communictor you can be. Having an accent, as you briefly mentioned in the video, can even be a cherry on top, assuming the ideas and the manner in which they are delivered in your speech measure up to those of your peers that speak the laguange as their native tongue. I'd rather listen to someone that talks his age with the thickest foreign accent imaginable than an adult with somewhat native-like accent who in essence talks like a 14 year old kid. But that's just me. Keep up the good work.
Bruh there's literally Americans who talk like that, that's how regular ass ppl talk, why do u want him to sound like a scholar
Ey my buddy thanks for sharing . I want to ask you something about listening do you have a few recommendations of podcasts I know you mentioned Joe Rogan but I would like to know if you have others? Thanks
Tim Ferriss, Chris Williamson, Peter Attia and Andrew Huberman are the main ones I listen to right now.
Good pronunciation/ accent helps you to be understood. It also allows native speakers to focus on the content of what you are saying rather than the manner. I would say Loïs accent doesn't quite sound native but sounds very neutralised with a strong North American influence
Don't believe anyone that tells you that you have an accent in English. You don't. Your accent is pretty much 100% perfect. There are native speakers of English who sound worse than you.