hi im a noob but still one question did amor shret dosent help vs druid? or did u lose this dbuff if he swich i ask my self i know u lose cp but sounds interesting for me
Sure they are, but they are also the kind of class, where if u press 1 button wrong or waste a cd, you will lose the game because of it, very CC dependant and super super squishy, if you ever fight a warrior as a rogue, you damn well know you're 20% hp after warrior connecting on u for more than 2 globals haha!
@@Paamejer Agree about the squishy, sadly most games dont last long enough for all the evasions and cc to go down. As for the 1 button wrong... erm... no, not at all. On very high games? sure. But like... 2k? 2.1? Nah. Small edit: to be fair. War hits everything like a truck, so its not really a fair comparison xD
@@Geo-yc7xu I have to play something to say its broken in TBC ? I thought that was common knowledge. Actually, iv played a Rogue as an alt many times in PvP, from TBC all the way to the end of BFA.The skill ceiling is high, that's true (Especially in TBC and Wotlk). But any monkey can abuse the endless cds to hit 2k since you have a ton of control, survivability and a lot of you dmg comes from auto-attacks, so you can use you CP's to set up more control. Sure, once the double cds are gone? You are a lot weaker, but most dont survive 2x everything. If Rogue was not busted you would not see almost every 2's and 3's team have a Rogue. Never understood why people who play X had a problem admitting to themselves that they are carried mostly by op.
Dude yes rogue is broken BUT if u wanna take the maximum of this class u must be a pro player thats the difference between rogue and other classes.. in other classes u dont need to be a pro player to make a decent game but for rogue class ...well.. is not easy!!!!!
the trinket by him around 7:32 felt like a pretty big misplay. you didn't have cloak and ff still had quite a while left on it, and trinketing it allows you to blind again when it's up
You could easily scrutinize all misplays in the entire 17 minute fight from either player, but that doesn't dampen their overall amazing performance in this video a single bit.
Honestly no offence but this is why I never will respect rogues. The only thing you did was click one stun, run away, then fucking afk in a corner, run up, click one button, run away. Like I understand that this is how you suppose to play rogue but it’s so lame
Wait, so you can't respect rogues that play how they're supposed to play vs rogues who don't? It would seem to make more sense to not respect the people who created the class mechanics rather than the player.
@KingShamaan it's hard for me to describe what he did wrong because I have a little command of the language, he had the ability to kill rogue, rogue full cd, cd vanish cd kidney , but druid did not leave the bear, he just took damage in the bear, rogue no evage, no kidney, druid in bear, so wrong
@KingShamaan all fight druid use thunder tread three times, 2:01 druid use magickficre and go fight , so wrond, he could leave invisible and open, rogue cd vanish and accessory horde, so wrond fight, и я устал переводить теперь сам занимайся этим, друид неоднократно мог юзнуть расовый стан и дать циклон, за таурена друида законтролить рогу не составляет труда, конкретно на 2 минуте он мог закончить арену если бы убежал лосать и ушёл в инвиз а не пошёл файтится, it's hard for me to prove to you because I don't know English well, sorry in 19 minutes, the druid used the racial stun 3 times, this is very little, but it helps a lot against rogue, stun and cyclone, bush bear - rogue use accessory horde, wait diminishing and use stun thunder - cyclone, rogue cd accessory and vanish, kosh no cd , but rogue dont use vanish and run full open
Ggs it was a great game!
gg my mans
So nice to see high level players respecting high level players. GG to both of you. Awesome to watch!
That is why I suck, I would just give up at 10m... LOL
@@Mirlol why don’t you two get a room and make out.
@@odhinn9 this guys says “gg to you both” as if he’s comparable in skill to even judge the fights. Stop kid.
Both of you insane individual players, gg enjoyed watching from start to end
Both played insanely good. I'm liking this. Hopefully WOTLK comes and there are epic duels and arena moments like back in the day.
i just love the reaction at the end XDDDDDD
POGGERS for little spottman
Spottman single handedly inspired so many ferals ive seen. Even I played feral season 1 but I played feral mage
hype to see tbc videos coming!
All in all that was brilliant from both sides. But that ending kill was spectatular! gd
Impressive cold-blooded execution.
You guys are both insane :O
Amazing play from both. Its a nightmare taking down druids. So much mitigation and heals... 0_0
Great video, rly enjoyed this 1v1
What keybinds do you use for shapeshifting? Nice video
It's realy cool to have great rival its more exciting
just out here fooling the algorithm
hi im a noob but still one question did amor shret dosent help vs druid? or did u lose this dbuff if he swich i ask my self i know u lose cp but sounds interesting for me
The less armor the class has the more expose armor helps. Bleeds are must for high armor
Mör best råg
Spottman is a real legend imo
Nice playyyy!! And i have a question, What profesions would you recomend for rogue arenas tbc? Jewelcrafting engineering? I have minning with my alter
Data science for sure
@@loathsomesport9693 ?
great 1v1 tho , wp both of you
No questions, Mir is an amazing Rogue. But if anything this shows just how broken Rogues are in TBC. A ton of CC and cds on very short timers.
Sure they are, but they are also the kind of class, where if u press 1 button wrong or waste a cd, you will lose the game because of it, very CC dependant and super super squishy, if you ever fight a warrior as a rogue, you damn well know you're 20% hp after warrior connecting on u for more than 2 globals haha!
@@Paamejer Agree about the squishy, sadly most games dont last long enough for all the evasions and cc to go down.
As for the 1 button wrong... erm... no, not at all. On very high games? sure. But like... 2k? 2.1? Nah.
Small edit: to be fair. War hits everything like a truck, so its not really a fair comparison xD
@@easycake3251 you never played rogue stop talking lol
@@Geo-yc7xu I have to play something to say its broken in TBC ? I thought that was common knowledge. Actually, iv played a Rogue as an alt many times in PvP, from TBC all the way to the end of BFA.The skill ceiling is high, that's true (Especially in TBC and Wotlk). But any monkey can abuse the endless cds to hit 2k since you have a ton of control, survivability and a lot of you dmg comes from auto-attacks, so you can use you CP's to set up more control.
Sure, once the double cds are gone? You are a lot weaker, but most dont survive 2x everything.
If Rogue was not busted you would not see almost every 2's and 3's team have a Rogue.
Never understood why people who play X had a problem admitting to themselves that they are carried mostly by op.
Dude yes rogue is broken BUT if u wanna take the maximum of this class u must be a pro player thats the difference between rogue and other classes.. in other classes u dont need to be a pro player to make a decent game but for rogue class ...well.. is not easy!!!!!
top tier players, great content
Actually crazy plays right here man. Just sick 😷
im on crack cocaine
mi king good arena men
Это лучшее что я видел за последние пол года💪💪💪
mir is poggers, spottman is poggers
the goat
Him not rebuffing thorns was a huge mistake
Normal people: meh, I would like to try a new class but I cba levelling really
Mir: _3rd rogue goes brrr_
He has 3? I thought it was his main
Gg
xd im on crack cocaine
Best rogue ever see srly
Insane!! WP!
Epic game.
Great streamer and a great player what a god
thanks man
bandage cost be like gdp of a small island state
PoG!
wp
Love it!
Insane
GG.
omfg Mir is a legend who could beat fucking best feral in the game 1v1 only mir ofc
Resisted Distract, wow.
the trinket by him around 7:32 felt like a pretty big misplay. you didn't have cloak and ff still had quite a while left on it, and trinketing it allows you to blind again when it's up
You could easily scrutinize all misplays in the entire 17 minute fight from either player, but that doesn't dampen their overall amazing performance in this video a single bit.
@@KTMFinX for sure, that one just stuck out as a kind of bad one even though he's obviously a great player
For the algo
Mir said im on crack
Holy shit
X d!
Wp
the swedish monster!
Mir is rather russian nick..he just migrated to Sweden
Great!
Rogue overpowered. If you go out of Bear you die in stunlock… But nice to watch.
это не Мир vs Спотман, это Спотман вс Мир + еда мага!
loveit
Honestly no offence but this is why I never will respect rogues. The only thing you did was click one stun, run away, then fucking afk in a corner, run up, click one button, run away. Like I understand that this is how you suppose to play rogue but it’s so lame
Wait, so you can't respect rogues that play how they're supposed to play vs rogues who don't? It would seem to make more sense to not respect the people who created the class mechanics rather than the player.
Lol 20min 1v1 insane
anything
Khuna
GD
"deux frère deux fauves" tellement cringe mdrrrrrrrrrrr
Probably only possible on lordaeron & with mage food, the stars really aligned
not true at all.
Feral should never lose to a "normal" rogue. Mir is not normal xD
Rogue can easily beat feral 1v1 with similar gear in tbc. It's basically instant win for rogue in equal gear if rogue gets opener
@@tekenertehee 😂😂😂 u know da game sir, I see
Dumb Druid doesn’t look at rogue’s energy.
Rezist &dodge)))
Fuc....ki..ng game))
I hate rogues.
2 dislikes to this video. I wonder what 2v2 team did that :D
Spottman encouraged Mir to post this vid in his chat
although u are good and showed skill. u still play an OP ass class . and u know it.
This druid could ress like 2 times xd
thats pretty true
Druids only have combat rezz which does not work im arena... wdym?
xD
Rogue k-bro
Just goes to show what a complete joke of a class TBC rogue is
So bad feral..
@KingShamaan i playing feral for 13 years, i know how to play bro)) i see a bad game feral in this arena)
@KingShamaan it's hard for me to describe what he did wrong because I have a little command of the language, he had the ability to kill rogue, rogue full cd, cd vanish cd kidney , but druid did not leave the bear, he just took damage in the bear, rogue no evage, no kidney, druid in bear, so wrong
@KingShamaan specifically in this fight, druid showed bad game, how he want kill rogue ?)))
@KingShamaan all fight druid use thunder tread three times, 2:01 druid use magickficre and go fight , so wrond, he could leave invisible and open, rogue cd vanish and accessory horde, so wrond fight, и я устал переводить теперь сам занимайся этим, друид неоднократно мог юзнуть расовый стан и дать циклон, за таурена друида законтролить рогу не составляет труда, конкретно на 2 минуте он мог закончить арену если бы убежал лосать и ушёл в инвиз а не пошёл файтится, it's hard for me to prove to you because I don't know English well, sorry
in 19 minutes, the druid used the racial stun 3 times, this is very little, but it helps a lot against rogue, stun and cyclone, bush bear - rogue use accessory horde, wait diminishing and use stun thunder - cyclone, rogue cd accessory and vanish, kosh no cd , but rogue dont use vanish and run full open
@KingShamaan let's everyone stay with their own opinion, it's hard for me, because I don't speak English well)
cshero > mir
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