Mac’s fans aren’t Timmy’s fans. So Tom not worried about alienating those fans. He won’t battle anyone whose fans are his fans. It affects the money to go after church or anyone else in Hick Hop. So dissing Mac was calculated..
thats what you have to do when you have no bar on the actual subject...mac pretty low and human garbage :P not a big fan of tom either he always have the same flow. but if i listen to mac i physically cringe.
@@phatal4573 and you're such a high and mighty person by calling him human garbage? i don't really listen to either of them, but jfc you're one pathetic little dude lol. stay offended and one day you might just realize what music in general is about, since you seriously don't seem to get it
@@phatal4573lmao he called him on so much more than just his girl. I mean, everyone is allowed their own taste but care to explain how Mac is human garbage?
All i can think of is a like from Toms first diss "I guess it's that time of the year, I'm here to revive your career"....aint heard shit about Mac in YEARS and now he comes back with a Tom diss...lmfao
Uhm nope.. I would hate to hear all the disses coming after Tom if Nova answered for Tom. 🙄 they could definitely both do their own separate disses tho. In my opinion that would be Nova taking his man card if she answered for him.
@@RingsideRebel785 Nova is Tom's girlfriend and videographer. She's a rapper herself. Been a while since she's released music I think, but she sometimes features on Tom's songs or does background vocals. She's the girl that Mac was talking ish about in his diss
I honestly feel like Tom doesn't even need to make a response. Considering his song that he just dropped has way more views than this diss track. And this just feels like lethal, trying to clout chase
"Maybe your best course would be to tread lightly" is ripped out of a scene from Breaking Bad. He distorted the audio but no mistaking it, that's Brian Cranston delivering that line.
Mcvay (switfy) from D12 commented on IG under this diss on Macs page saying “brutal” pretty sure if he lied on D12s name they would not be happy with him. Lol
but memntioning mac after all these years n bragging bout ending his carer n marrige is totally not 5 years of anger lol lol especaillty after you both squashed the beef lol tom sneak dissed n got bodied deal wit it lol
@@captainflannel8558 Knox said Mac told him he is still married and his career is doing fine. Maybe that line in God Mode wasn't actually about Mac 🤔 🤷♂️
Im thinking Mac felt safe to go after him now because Tom said he won't do any more dis tracks... but Nova didn't!! I really hope she brings the heat!!❤❤❤
This is like Kendrick vs Drake, except I’m betting Kendrick has no real proof of his hard hitting stuff, and ultimately Drake just destroys him or sits back and doesn’t even pull out a track. So a lot different than the real K v D
@@Jonathan-A.C. Time will tell about Kendrick Look at Em and his diss The Warning and then Mariah said nothing, and Drake as far as I know has also said nothing
@@Snorlaxiian Well in this context, I’m gonna edge more towards thinking Mac doesn’t have something packed, and he’s not gonna say much about Tom. But if he did, Tom’a career goes bye bye
@@Jonathan-A.C. Maybe this is a hot take but Tom SEEMS like this generation's "Eminem". Not in the sense that Tom's rapping is on part with Eminem's - it's not. I mean in the aspect that Tom is capturing a lot of people's attention, he's saying all the right shit to lure a certain crowd. And to be clear, I don't mean "right-wing", knock that shit off, I say. I'm also not a huge fan of Tom's or Mac's so I'm open to seeing who dig's who's grave and having a laugh. This Tom diss seems pretty heavy so we'll see.
Yoooo!!! I saw some diss video, but I was like, no way.... Soooo, I didn't even bother to watch it... 😅😅 Heyy, I'll just listen to it now with the added amazing analysis! Hey Knox!!!
Yeah, that line hit really hard. People who make up their reality aren't true to themselves and cannot withstand an interrogation of themselves without changing.
I’ve always heard “grilling” when it’s interrogating but I guess I’ve also heard “drilling into” as being going into excruciating detail on a topic so yeah pretty much
Umm Maclethal mentions his divorce in Japanese Sunset so it’s not false information. I don’t think it was meant to be a dis at all what Tom said it was him explaining why he don’t battle no more. And Maclethal should have talked to Tom one on one about this if he had a problem with it. Especially if they are supposed to be friends now
Mac really should've let it go I'm sorry to me he is aweful and had been to me just an opinion, I good tom slams his ass again or nova that would be funny
Exactly what I thought, I liked MAC lethal with his videos using different rappers styles, was dope. But a whole 4-5 year space and now popping back up and I haven’t heard his name once in that span. Now making a video with Tom’s name in it so if you look it up it’s a chance his vid will pop back up to get views and relevancy that seems to have disappeared. Almost like a cry for help😅🤣
When Tom referenced Mac, not verbatum but implied, he was saying he's not doing diss videos anymore because of the fallout from their beef. Mac took a throw away line way too personally.
But, TBF, if u were beefing with someone, then squashed it, & later they tried to exaggerate what happened, u would naturally be inclined to defend urself. Especially if Tom really wasn't responsible for ending his marriage, etc & that was fake. It makes anyone who is a friend to Mac lethal clown on him any time they would hear the song. "U gonna let him say he made ur wife leave u, & not respond?" So, i can understand, especially if they were cool, Instagram friends, etc, Tom could have handled it much better, IMO. They both want fame & money, so i wouldn't be surprised if it's all fake, just for attention.
The funny thing is Tom was not dissing him.He was saying how he was feeling about what happened and that you felt horrible abouthis is just mac Being a child again Especially after Tom said he didn't want to do that anymore.He didn't want to do any more dishes.And this is mac just trying to bate him in
He actually was referencing their battle in order to explain why he wasn't taking UpChurch's bait to a battle. UpChurch did a song dissing Tom and God Mode was Tom's response to it.
@@asyouwishmobilegaming3084 the line wasn’t a rocky marriage… saying you caused someone to get divorced when they didn’t even get divorced is a certified bitch move
Idk, mac seems to just be trying to use tom for a path to fame again. Even starting saying tom started it, he may have started the diss tracks but nahh, mac is wild for this
Thanks for breaking it down. There were some parts I agreed as a battle rap I got it, but I personally hope Tom doesn’t respond, recorded or live. Tom created his fan base. Love it or hate it, he is supported.
I have to say I like Tom. I’m also here on Knox’s channel because of Ren. I like Ren too. Have to also say I’m 51 and enjoy the music. I am confused about what’s going on here but don’t feel like diving into the video. lol I’ll just go back to enjoying the music. 🤷♀️
@@jenniferclark8051 I’m Canadian and I have to say I’m kind of proud of our export Tom MacDonald. I enjoy his rap because there’s a lot of shit I relate to. I can understand it and it’s not all about ho’s, gang banging and violence
Talking about perspective. I think what has happened is that everyone took the verse out of perspective. When he did God mode, He was just explaining why he wouldn't do a diss/battle rap. He was'nt dissing Mac lethal. He had already done that years ago. He doesn't need to do it again. Tom had even mentioned before that he's not doing any more diss tracks even before God mode. So when Tom created that verse it was meant as an example/explanation of what he had previously done, maybe a little exagerated but in no way, shape or verse, yes I worded it that way on purpose was he dissing Mac lethal. Damn people always trying to start beef between people apnd you Nox of all people adding even more fuel to the fire that never should have started to begin with. So you know rap? With out looking it up. What was the first rap album to ever? Go number one on Billboard charts and I said album not song, when did rap start? how did rap come about? Remember no peeking. I know this information, rap was the first genre of music I ever started listening to when it wasnt evem recongnized as a genre. I still listen to it today and Im 55yrs old.
Not even talking about his past. Just what's relevant to this battle, and the fact remains, great og battle rapper or not, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance after not just being obliterated the 1st time, but actually having ghostwriters write his diss for him! I don't care if he was my favorite rapper, I'd lose at least some respect for him and put into question his current lyrical fitness as well as the validity of any of his past work. If he'd be willing to have his own diss be ghostwritten for him, how am I or anyone else supposed to believe he hasn't done it many times before. If anyone has proven to be a fraud in the game and an unaware, clout chasing grifter, it would have to be dave at this point. Let's just be real.
Hearing this diss. It sounded more like Mac was going after Nova more then Tom. And honestly Mac is only coming after Tom because people thought Mac was dead, they forgot about him and Tom is MUCH bigger then what Mac will ever be now. Overall it was a 5/10 diss but A LOT of personals and will be interesting if Tom replies.
Mac has mostly been uninvolved with rap, though. It feels more like his passion or hobby than a real pursuit now, which is entirely fine. Nothing could ever negate the path he paved for a lot of people.
5/10 is bit harsh. It was a very good diss. But I agree that it almost felt like a diss towards Nova more than Tom. Lyrics towards her were insanely insluting. He did it for a reason though. He wants the smoke and tries to force Tom's hand. Fact to the matter is, Tom is a relevant rapper, Mac is not. He's the "funny youtube rap video guy". I understand that he's a very good rapper, made tracks with Tech etc. but nowadays Tom is running circles around him career-wise.
Mac trying to get attention from Tom's success, and their old dis battle. Bringing Nova into this in such a disrespectful way. And for God Mode had some lines about him? He had to talk to Knox if it was about him. Please this song is made for all his haters, even if those lines was about Mac, he wasn't the focus. just a side note. Mac ain't on Tom's min, and if he hears of this he will not respond directly like Mac
Yah for him to take this long to come up with a dis. He’s prob been crying for night after night trying to come up with a dis. And I know some of tom’s past history. And he’s not a punk
This year must be the beginning of another era of rap or something, I mean holy shit how many beefs we gonna get?! We only half way through the year 😂😂😂
The culture of what it was is coming back… although some forgot how it is. This was ok but also stabbing for kills. A way of shutting mumble rap, I’m here for it lol
Looks like he wants to try to set up a no win situation for Tom. Tom said he wouldn't do disses anymore, so it was a calculated decision to come out at this as a diss track. Hoping Tom responds so that he can call Tom a liar and get him to to break his word, or on the other side Tom keeps his word of not responding and then Dave "claims the win."
He loses regardless, he disses Tom over a mention yet... didn't respond to Toms jabs at his wife kids etc and has no passion to defend his kids, YET he gets a non-named drop mention and he suddenly have passion. Like Mac takes an L regardless.
Thing is if Tom doesn't respond Tom wins because 1: he kept his word about not dissing anymore, and 2: it shows that restarting a beef with Mac isn't worth Tom's time, if he does respond, Mac can't call him out for responding because he's the one that is provoking a response in the first place, and Tom will definitely cook him all over again.
That deep voice at the end "maybe your best course.... would be to tread lightly" is from Breaking Bad when Hank learns that Walter White is Heisenberg he's told that after Hank attacks him
First thing first, GET AN ADAPTER FOR YOUR CAMERA lol. My interpretation from this that you may have missed is: - The lyrics referring to Nova are mainly in response to Mac Lethal Sucks with slights jabs to God Mode - Mac tryin to hit us, as fans, with the stereotypes is going to be his undoing. He just opened up the door for unsigned and underground artists to attack. - Tom sharing his contributions is more of a way for others to know that he is proud of the USA and that the other artists don't share the same pride. - He took shots at too many people and he will receive many many responses. - Him putting Nova in the crosshairs several times is the absolute worst move. Yes, Tom did put Mac's wife (or ex-wife) in some lyrics but he didn't stoop that low. - He claimed he is a star. I didn't even hear of Mac Lethal until Tom's diss track. - He crossed the line putting his mother into this and making Nova lines as a sub/"female dog". - The artists that he claimed created political wrap is mostly wrong. Their message was more on the equal treatment of all by enforcement officers while Tom has brought to light the "higher government's" shortcomings. The only other artist that went to Tom's length before he has is Eminem. - Since when did he go on tour with D12?! - Unsure how Eminem will take that. That comment could backfire tremendously. - The line about people that buy a case of bud light just to shoot it is a straight shot at Kid Rock. BAD MOVE! There are other things but these are the most impactful in my eyes.
It wasn't 'just to shoot it'. That went viral and kicked off what was likely the most devastating corporate boycott of all time. 'just to shoot'? Nah. Just to make a company lose massive market share and come crawling back to the actual people who drink it.
He didn’t miss it. I love Knox so much, but the one thing I always hate is that he feels like refuses to ever alienate anyone. He won’t say anything political - even when this track references politics, he doesn’t mention what those politics are. He’s a UA-camr over anything else… including a rap historian, sadly. He doesn’t want to lose views, so he won’t just say the thing out loud. So much Nazi talk in this, that image of crucifixion, the J6 nod. He clocked it all… he just made a choice not to talk about it. I agree about reaching across the isle to a degree… but Knox does this very often. He won’t ever say the quiet part out loud. He won’t alienate his audience. As someone who lost my job because I refused to work with Nazi sympathizers…. Every time I see Knox in this mode, I just want to leave a little bit.
The angle that I would view this in is that this is separate from their first beef and this is strictly from Tom’s diss on god mode, prompting this track. I hope Tom responds because beef always makes good music🤟
@Trollsby_Trollin and even then he just spewed woke nonsense that will lose him more views than he gains. He is the typical clown who screams racism when he can't handle the truth.
@@ruggedwalrus1553 I don't give enough of a fuck about any rapper to try to look them up freestyling, so do your own damn research fan boy. This video just auto-played while I was at work. All I know about Tom Mcdonald is that he's a Canadian that likes wearing banana hammocks with maple leaves on his junk who decided to move to America to grift on anything controversial he can find a rhyme for. Never even heard of Mac Lethal until this video, but their voices sound the same to me, and it all sounds like shit.
@ruggedwalrus1553 you say that yet all mac did was spew brainless talking points while pretending facts he dosent like makes someone racist. Also the fake nice guy act is pathetic when he has always been a trash person.
Knox, Id say Id agree with you that there's no rules in a rap battle IF Lethal hadn't put a long diatribe in his description and comments about how racist sexist homophobic Tom is and how awful that is, when this diss is FULL of all three things.
You know lethal has been waiting for any reason to lash out at tom- nobody just makes a 7 minute track about someone who makes an off-handed remark literally talking about how he regrets battling with him. Tom been living in his head rent free for half a decade 😂
I would lay money down that neither Tom nor Nova will respond to this. As far as mac getting a divorce , I did see a news piece about them separating which is probably partially why Mac went so hard because it was true.You don't get pissed off about people saying shit that ain't true.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Dave (aka Mac Lethal), is a very angry person who is easily triggered. Example: In Tom’s “Lethal Injection”, he said: “It ain't a joke, when you're going broke... and you got a daughter at home”. That was NOT a diss of Dave’s daughter but his parenting. Dave got all butt hurt and attacked Nova in his response. He also brought up Tom being Canadian and other BS. Fast forward to now. In “God Mode”, Tom said: “The last time i battled the man that i trampled lost his career and then had a divorce. That wasn’t fair, homie got torched I feel the weight like i’m carryin’ around a corpse.” That was NOT a diss. It was an apology for Tom having a part in what happened to Dave - “… That wasn’t fair, homie got torched …”. Again, Dave got all butt hurt and took 2 months to release a diss track. Once more, he slanders Nova, trying to hurt Tom and he brings up the Canadian thing again. It comes across as the same diss that he dropped back then only, this is way more angry and intended to be hurtful. If anyone had ever said anything like this about my wife, I would have been a man and handled it privately. The only indication of any kind of response might have been in the Obit section of the news. I know Crypt did ghost writing on the first diss from Dave. Apparently Dave is so filled with hate and anger, he couldn’t come up with anything new and just went with the very same diss but with more vitriol. Apparently, he really can’t write his own lyrics. As far as the Canada thing: Tom has lived in the U.S. for 10+ years. He came here legally. I had no idea that Dave was such a hard core xenophobe. My great grandfather was born in Spain and my grandfather was born in Mexico. We came here legally through the port of entry in El Paso, Texas. Does Dave think I can’t be a proud American? Maybe Dave should go back to wherever his ancestors came from. In the end, I think Dave has some anger issues to work through and needs to unbunch his panties. He is absolutely not in a healthy headspace and needs help. Lastly, I have heard this track once and that was 1 time too many. I am not viewing your reaction but I posted this comment for your “Engagement” algorithm. This Hispanic is, and forever will be #hangovergang 🤙🏽
Facts my man. I literally only clicked for the comments. Now Knox, if you read this comment know that I love you fam. But I listened to this track once and no more.
@@ticskitmusic656 it wasn’t a diss. You’re just walking around, looking for drama where none exists. Dave’s diss wasn’t even original, it rehashed all the talking points that Crypt wrote for him 5 years ago. Dave is irrelevant and just looking to revive his long dead career. At the time this took place: ----------- - Tom MacDonald: - Subs: 1.32M - Views: 297,997,471 - Mac Lethal: - Subs: 2.95M - Views: 290,963,836 - Top Track: Cover song while cooking breakfast - Views: 40M ----------- Currently: ----------- - Tom MacDonald: - Subs: 4.61M - Views: 1,612,401,950 - Mac Lethal: - Subs: 2.86M - Views: 308,901,061 That’s called; “Game over man!”
Stan can rap a little bit but, unfortunately he's chasing his tail and in love with in this case Tom Macdonald to the extent he was so butthurt he had to make an entire song dissing him when he was only barely mentioned in God Mode and then wait like a month to put it out.
@@Dragginfleye how is this true? Nova was literally raised in a family of musicians dealing with rap, had rapper friends and everything, and I'm sorry but her career is much bigger than this dude's that's trying to diss her through Tom. That's probably his problem! that he is insignificant even compared to Nova. She has been with Tom for 7 years, are about to get married and this micropenis man of nothingness is dissing her for previous alleged relationships, which even if they are legit, she had every fucking right to have as a human being. 10 rappers? I hope she's fucked 100! how is that a problem when she's been in a serious relationship for so long and been so supportive of her man? What's wrong, "Lethal"? Your wife ain't acknowledging you no more?
@@Dragginfleye also, yeah. NAME 10 RAPPERS SHE'S DATED... with facts. Thank you. Meanwhile from "whosdatedwhom": Nova Rockafeller has had no other relationships that we know of. But noooo, draggingflEYE sees all, knows all. You misogynist pos
The line doesn't mean shit if it's not true bruv. This Diss is FULL of straight up LIES & FULL of contradictions & video is cringe! Mac said he toured with D12 right? After this "Diss" came out KUNIVA of D12 mentioned on X that D12 NEVER met Mac & NEVER toured with him! Mac's a straight up liar. Tom's not losing sleep & won't get outta bed over this! #MACISWACK
Exactly. He was literally using it as a reason to say he refuses to respond to other people, because he feels bad about entertaining the Tweet Mac made, which was exactly what Mac said in this diss, that they squashed the beef on IG. Very confused how it goes from: "We squashed the beef" to Tom using the beef between him and mac as a reason to not do any more, to Mac somehow taking it as a diss and making a diss at Tom.
@@awkwardninja5738 it’s the weakest diss known to man. It’s worse than if someone called you a poopie head and actually meant it with all their heart. Clearly mac is getting emotional over being mentioned for no reason. ---- What do you want Tom to say? “I won’t do disses because the last time I did-“ finish the line. The only thing that makes sense is he didn’t like what happened to his opponent after the beef, which is what he said. Clearly not a sneak diss, but Tom giving the reason he doesn’t want to do diss tracks anymore.
Wow, you certified Mac this time.... Well yea, it was better put together than the back and forth years ago, but Mac still is baseless on many points, though this time has a few valid ones. Attacking Nova, HOG, Tom's parents were pathetic attempts to get a response from Tom. Tom will not respond....but Nova might.... LOL, so I guess that might work out for Mac.
Firsttttt I love Knox’s responses! Time to see Knox go after lethal just as he destroyed Jean! (Edit) I hoped Knox would battle lethal too! I just love the way Knox raps! This was my thoughts before the video! After I think it’s good he paid respect to both and remained neutral but giving honor to the bars!
Thanks for always bringing an unbiased and thorough breakdown. It was a strong diss rap, and I gotta give ML some credit. I understand that in rap battles anything is fair game, but I would've appreciated it more if it's like the epic rap battles of history - play dirty, but facts only.
I feel like it's not reaching when kid Rock literally did that. I guess anyone could do that because it's a little general but it's not that general though.@@wishtheyunderstoodme
@@charleshedghepeth7726 Kid Rock literally did that specifically because of Bud Light doing a pro-trans campaign. That's the only reason anybody would know that reference. That's what it's a reference to. If you don't see it that way, you're flat wrong.
Hey Knox, great breakdown as usual. Just wanted to hop into the comments and tell you that since you said you weren't well that I hope you recover quickly. Take care brother. #hUmaNITY
All he wants is to have Tom revive his career again after how long since Tom end it It's been on his mind for years he even said it himself he rewrote it three times I'll make this clear too I think it's the best diss song he ever did
He said he rewrote the verse three times because the punchlines won't cut it, and he's right. Mac had more punchlines in his first diss then Tom had in both of his, and it didn't work because the majority of people listening to the battle were Tom fans and they don't appreciate clever writing. So he scrapped all the punchlines and took a more direct approach to it. That's why this track is upsetting Tom fans way more then the first one, so was definitely the right move.
@@djglennthat's 100% bullshit otherwise he would done this sooner then now it's convenient he has a new album coming out so he's using Tom to get traction for the sells...he did this same shit when mac put out Mac lethal sucks 2 and he said thanks for the free publicity So yeah no as for the diss track it was great my only complaint it took you forever because he's using Tom to try to sell his album Also battle rap fans it's not just Tom fans battle rap fans in general it's there own type of group and that's a retarded statement
@@djglenn disses generally r more about the content than the writing. its like a roast battle but the content cant be made up. mac is just salty he lost and didnt like tom pointing it out. i dont care if tom responds, would be nice if he did but between the mac fans and tom haters its just too salty to even follow.
Immortal technique is a rare Beast of an MC. I'm glad you gave him a shout out. Make sure you check out his other music including the 4th branch and the point of no return.
The fact that Royce Da 5’9 had mentioned Tom in his song “Greed”, saying he might not agree with his views but respects his right to stand on them, right after the “Dear Slim” release. Shows they seen it and didn’t have an issue.
That lame ass bullshit line wouldn’t put anyone down what the hell lol do you Tom fans even listen to other rap music? If you did you would realize that Tom is a corny ass joke
Mac did his subliminal disses first. He says it was squashed and didn't know where the mention on God Mode came from but on his IG he was promoting his tour and said something about "don't worry, you won't see Ben Shapiro" and there were other things
@@format9802 1. I am a fan of both 2. I don't follow either on anything other than UA-cam. 3. Never said he was irrelevant. 4. I was just pointing out that the song started with a claim that Tom started the subliminal stuff when he had been doing it for a while
@@phatal4573 That's pretty much his entire diss. It's just dragging Nova through the mud, and bringing up things Tom already addressed.... Only two bars hold any weight and it's Nova slander and about Tom's Mom.
@@HaruQFI agree and he’s talking about dead flows he’s literally sounded the same monotone style the whole time these guys tweaking frl I fw with Mac but he sounds so woke in this
@@ShadowDeathGnot only that, calling Tom’s fans Nazi or Tom a Nazi is fucking wild. A Nazi would never rap with a Jew, and I’m fairly certain that small parts of the black community that’s listening to him won’t like being called a Nazi.
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Black Pegasus said that he heard he was divorced. However; I didn’t think it was a diss, but what do I know!
I personally think he is a creep for bringing Nova into it!
@@sherrywest134 lmao she’s a rockafella that family does way more creepy stuff.
Mac’s fans aren’t Timmy’s fans. So Tom not worried about alienating those fans. He won’t battle anyone whose fans are his fans. It affects the money to go after church or anyone else in Hick Hop. So dissing Mac was calculated..
Did anyone else notice that the Marvin Gaye line was why he posted the video on Father's Day because he was killing his own son LOL
He did Nova dirty DAMM! She’s not even my girl and I’m offended 😂
thats what you have to do when you have no bar on the actual subject...mac pretty low and human garbage :P not a big fan of tom either he always have the same flow. but if i listen to mac i physically cringe.
glad you offended......stop listening to rap, i mean hip hop for your iapplepod........
@@phatal4573 and you're such a high and mighty person by calling him human garbage? i don't really listen to either of them, but jfc you're one pathetic little dude lol. stay offended and one day you might just realize what music in general is about, since you seriously don't seem to get it
@@phatal4573lmao he called him on so much more than just his girl. I mean, everyone is allowed their own taste but care to explain how Mac is human garbage?
That Emily Willis line was ruthless.
Knox, I hope you feel better soon and that whatever situation you and your family are dealing with gets resolved soon as well.
All i can think of is a like from Toms first diss "I guess it's that time of the year, I'm here to revive your career"....aint heard shit about Mac in YEARS and now he comes back with a Tom diss...lmfao
Only Knox could make a 40 Minute video reaction of a 7 Minute diss track.
first time but... better then most I've seen
This is a comment made for farming likes and comments. Also very robotic, repetitive and a lie.
Yea but excessive does he need the add revenue or something?
One that wasn't even good. Just spewswoke trash that isnt based in reality for the majority of the song.
@@Gl-my8fw Thats Why Macs career is lethally dying
Knox really did get the whiplash refrence right away. Didn’t even need to think about
Lol Yeah on Flawd's reaction he had to google it. And someone was like- "It's okay. Knox will explain it." Had me rolling
Pretty much anyone should have. It's not a far reaching bar. Whiplash is a pretty popular movie
@@Usurpationblitz never saw it or heard of it B4 this diss
@BT_Ghost74 its a good movie. J.K. Simmons and Miles Teller worked very well together
@@Usurpationblitz never heard of it before till now
Low key, kinda want Nova to reapond with the clap back instead of Tom.
Fr tom keeps his word not doing rap battles so ignoring mac but nova taking him down be a face smack to mac
@@RabbitsMooTotally agree.
I'm here bc Mac, I never heard a Tom McDonald song and I probably never will. But fill me in, who is Nova?
Uhm nope.. I would hate to hear all the disses coming after Tom if Nova answered for Tom. 🙄 they could definitely both do their own separate disses tho. In my opinion that would be Nova taking his man card if she answered for him.
@@RingsideRebel785 Nova is Tom's girlfriend and videographer. She's a rapper herself. Been a while since she's released music I think, but she sometimes features on Tom's songs or does background vocals. She's the girl that Mac was talking ish about in his diss
Yoo knox hill you have the best lyrical channel right now bro🔥🔥
I honestly feel like Tom doesn't even need to make a response. Considering his song that he just dropped has way more views than this diss track. And this just feels like lethal, trying to clout chase
I concur. I waited for KH to react to this.
@@patrickdonnelly6738 you would think that way 💀💀😂🤣🤣
I think Knox and NoLifeShaq are 1a and 1b right now 🔥🔥🔥
@@kyleallen6479Knox for the breakdown's, Shaq for the reactions.
5 years later this dude responds? No way!?
That line he had Nova saying “daddy” pretty sure that’s her actual voice from the song bad news lol
I would imagine. A lot of these lines were from Lethal Injection and Mac Lethal Sucks
It is.
I wish he had Daddy play the whole verse but that was funny🤣
You are correct
Thank chat gp
My dogs name is Nova and she was lookin at the speaker funny. Lol
I bet your dog is more entertaining than Nova too.
Tom's dog is named Nova too.
Bruh lmao
Knox ALWAYS killing it on the break downs. I never knew Marvin Gaye's dad killed him, thanks for learning me something Professor Knox. ❤
Yeah. Marvin's dad shot him when Marvin beat the hell out of him for beating his mom.
Yes and Roger Troutman from the 80’s band Zapp brother killed him. Some of the best artists were murdered by family or people who were close to them.
"Maybe your best course would be to tread lightly" is ripped out of a scene from Breaking Bad. He distorted the audio but no mistaking it, that's Brian Cranston delivering that line.
No shit?
such an iconic line
Yes, after Hank hit him in the garage!
Exactly. I recognized it immediately
yea because he cant make a good diss for shit, he needs ai to carry him, he waited 5 years because he was so but hurt
Mcvay (switfy) from D12 commented on IG under this diss on Macs page saying “brutal” pretty sure if he lied on D12s name they would not be happy with him. Lol
100% Mac let D12 listen before it was released.
Maybe helped even write the diss. Idk but this diss is way better than his old diss that was complete trash.
@@damon7845dude had 5 years to write it… it better have been hard
@@damon7845That would have been hilarious, if he pulled a Benzino lol
Well, one member of d12 is hardly d12.
Here for Knox! This diss feels like 5 years of anger in 7.5 minutes of a response to a mention in a 9 minute song
A 5 second, unnamed, mention in a 9 minute song lol.
I guess he missed all the other songs Tom mentioned him in over the last 5 years 😂😂😂
but memntioning mac after all these years n bragging bout ending his carer n marrige is totally not 5 years of anger lol lol especaillty after you both squashed the beef lol tom sneak dissed n got bodied deal wit it lol
And he wouldn't even put his face in the video 😂
@@captainflannel8558 Knox said Mac told him he is still married and his career is doing fine. Maybe that line in God Mode wasn't actually about Mac 🤔 🤷♂️
I wish Nova would respond to Mac Lethal 😂
I put a message on Tom's thing I know he don't diss but Nova could take him.
@@amberpowell2609 yeah because I feel like Mac made this diss track to her more than Tom lol
Look it’s tom’s knob slobs!
Thought the same thing. That would be hilarious!!
I’d love to see the ladies battle
I was today years old when I found out Mac Lethal was still alive.
Right who knew 🤷🏽♂️
I just learned he exists lol
THIS COMMENT WINS THE INTERNET
first and last time i seen him was when he mimicked different rapping styles. thats it nothing else for me to say. GLHF
What? Today years old?
Im thinking Mac felt safe to go after him now because Tom said he won't do any more dis tracks... but Nova didn't!! I really hope she brings the heat!!❤❤❤
F*ck, that would be epic.
Who do you think writes all of Tom’s ish? Lol
ooooh that's an angle I didn't think of! that'd be fucking fire!
she won't lmao
Savannah Lethal is for the streets already. I keep hoping Mac lethal goes to Robin Williams or Jason David Frank route
All i can think of is Kendrick saying "you fucked up when you called out my family's name"
I'd giggle/smirk if Eminem were to mention this beef in a future song, not as a diss just as like a "settle down, kids" type of thing.
This is like Kendrick vs Drake, except I’m betting Kendrick has no real proof of his hard hitting stuff, and ultimately Drake just destroys him or sits back and doesn’t even pull out a track. So a lot different than the real K v D
@@Jonathan-A.C. Time will tell about Kendrick
Look at Em and his diss The Warning and then Mariah said nothing, and Drake as far as I know has also said nothing
@@Snorlaxiian
Well in this context, I’m gonna edge more towards thinking Mac doesn’t have something packed, and he’s not gonna say much about Tom. But if he did, Tom’a career goes bye bye
@@Jonathan-A.C. Maybe this is a hot take but Tom SEEMS like this generation's "Eminem". Not in the sense that Tom's rapping is on part with Eminem's - it's not. I mean in the aspect that Tom is capturing a lot of people's attention, he's saying all the right shit to lure a certain crowd. And to be clear, I don't mean "right-wing", knock that shit off, I say. I'm also not a huge fan of Tom's or Mac's so I'm open to seeing who dig's who's grave and having a laugh. This Tom diss seems pretty heavy so we'll see.
Yoooo!!! I saw some diss video, but I was like, no way.... Soooo, I didn't even bother to watch it... 😅😅 Heyy, I'll just listen to it now with the added amazing analysis! Hey Knox!!!
That reveal yourself line is a double. “Drilling” someone is another way to say interrogating or questioning someone hard.
Yeah, that line hit really hard. People who make up their reality aren't true to themselves and cannot withstand an interrogation of themselves without changing.
I’ve always heard “grilling” when it’s interrogating but I guess I’ve also heard “drilling into” as being going into excruciating detail on a topic so yeah pretty much
Knox break downs are the best. One more person here that doesn't listen to rap but gains appreciation for it through your breakdowns.
Can't stop thinking the ceiling fan behind Knox's head looks like a halo. Saint Knox in the house with the holy breakdowns! 🙏
🤣🤣😇
😂😂😂😂 It does!!!
Umm Maclethal mentions his divorce in Japanese Sunset so it’s not false information. I don’t think it was meant to be a dis at all what Tom said it was him explaining why he don’t battle no more. And Maclethal should have talked to Tom one on one about this if he had a problem with it. Especially if they are supposed to be friends now
True Mac took it too literally and acting childish if they were really good friends like Mac mentioned this diss track would never have happened
Mac really should've let it go I'm sorry to me he is aweful and had been to me just an opinion, I good tom slams his ass again or nova that would be funny
Exactly what I thought, I liked MAC lethal with his videos using different rappers styles, was dope. But a whole 4-5 year space and now popping back up and I haven’t heard his name once in that span. Now making a video with Tom’s name in it so if you look it up it’s a chance his vid will pop back up to get views and relevancy that seems to have disappeared. Almost like a cry for help😅🤣
When Tom referenced Mac, not verbatum but implied, he was saying he's not doing diss videos anymore because of the fallout from their beef.
Mac took a throw away line way too personally.
Thank God he did bc I hate Tom everything was on point 😂😂😂😂
What else does mac have though. He is known for 2 Tom diss tracks and a song about pancakes.
I mean Tom only said what he said as a response to UpChurch trying to bait him into a battle!!
But, TBF, if u were beefing with someone, then squashed it, & later they tried to exaggerate what happened, u would naturally be inclined to defend urself. Especially if Tom really wasn't responsible for ending his marriage, etc & that was fake. It makes anyone who is a friend to Mac lethal clown on him any time they would hear the song. "U gonna let him say he made ur wife leave u, & not respond?" So, i can understand, especially if they were cool, Instagram friends, etc, Tom could have handled it much better, IMO. They both want fame & money, so i wouldn't be surprised if it's all fake, just for attention.
Did he consider maybe Tom was NOT referring to him at all😂? Talk about ego....
Sounds like Tom really hurt him back in the day. Mac been thinking about this for a long time.
The funny thing is Tom was not dissing him.He was saying how he was feeling about what happened and that you felt horrible abouthis is just mac Being a child again Especially after Tom said he didn't want to do that anymore.He didn't want to do any more dishes.And this is mac just trying to bate him in
He actually was referencing their battle in order to explain why he wasn't taking UpChurch's bait to a battle. UpChurch did a song dissing Tom and God Mode was Tom's response to it.
if you think it wasn’t a sneak diss then you need to go back to school, 0 reason to mention stuff that never happened 🤷♂️
@ihax4uv179 I mean we are going off what Max Lethal is claiming here.... how do we know his marriage wasn't actually rocky?
@@asyouwishmobilegaming3084 the line wasn’t a rocky marriage… saying you caused someone to get divorced when they didn’t even get divorced is a certified bitch move
@@ihax4uv179 but they did get divorced he said in the japanese media... if they are back again? thats another story.
Mac Lethal is still around?
Yes he is
Right figured he reset himself by now 🤣 fkin loser
You're king dissed him so I guess he know's he is still around as well..
You're quick.
@@jefory.King 😂 you haters are whack he ain't no king but am a fan of Tom.
Idk, mac seems to just be trying to use tom for a path to fame again.
Even starting saying tom started it, he may have started the diss tracks but nahh, mac is wild for this
That's why exactly 💯
Man 2024 is so crazy 😂
it's like an online bar fight that broke out and everyone started punching each other
The year of the rap purge!
for u
It's an election year,this is only the beginning
Everybody says that about every year
Thanks for breaking it down. There were some parts I agreed as a battle rap I got it, but I personally hope Tom doesn’t respond, recorded or live. Tom created his fan base. Love it or hate it, he is supported.
Well said hun
I have to say I like Tom. I’m also here on Knox’s channel because of Ren. I like Ren too.
Have to also say I’m 51 and enjoy the music.
I am confused about what’s going on here but don’t feel like diving into the video. lol
I’ll just go back to enjoying the music. 🤷♀️
@@amandaelliott7953 there are a lot of people who loves REN’s music, including me, do you have a point?
@@amandaelliott7953 thank you for liking Tom too…
@@jenniferclark8051 I’m Canadian and I have to say I’m kind of proud of our export Tom MacDonald.
I enjoy his rap because there’s a lot of shit I relate to. I can understand it and it’s not all about ho’s, gang banging and violence
Okay there's the diss track, that means Mac Lethal about to drop an album soon 🤭
I'm sure his wife will buy a copy, I guess having 1 sale is as good as #1 in sales?... right? lol
I was just thinking that... Well said because Mac just isnt good at all in my opinion.
@@brettleisy356what wife? They got divorced.
@@m0nsterman902 see, thats what I thought... but mac seems to have claimed that they didnt divorce? so wife/ex-wife, his only hope for a sale
Never heard of the guy before today, he must stink pretty bad 👎
Talking about perspective. I think what has happened is that everyone took the verse out of perspective. When he did God mode, He was just explaining why he wouldn't do a diss/battle rap. He was'nt dissing Mac lethal. He had already done that years ago. He doesn't need to do it again. Tom had even mentioned before that he's not doing any more diss tracks even before God mode. So when Tom created that verse it was meant as an example/explanation of what he had previously done, maybe a little exagerated but in no way, shape or verse, yes I worded it that way on purpose was he dissing Mac lethal. Damn people always trying to start beef between people apnd you Nox of all people adding even more fuel to the fire that never should have started to begin with. So you know rap? With out looking it up. What was the first rap album to ever? Go number one on Billboard charts and I said album not song, when did rap start? how did rap come about? Remember no peeking. I know this information, rap was the first genre of music I ever started listening to when it wasnt evem recongnized as a genre. I still listen to it today and Im 55yrs old.
I'm glad i watched this breakdown. Knox, you're really good explaining this! I haven't paid much attention to rap battles like this.
Not even talking about his past. Just what's relevant to this battle, and the fact remains, great og battle rapper or not, he doesn't deserve a 2nd chance after not just being obliterated the 1st time, but actually having ghostwriters write his diss for him! I don't care if he was my favorite rapper, I'd lose at least some respect for him and put into question his current lyrical fitness as well as the validity of any of his past work. If he'd be willing to have his own diss be ghostwritten for him, how am I or anyone else supposed to believe he hasn't done it many times before. If anyone has proven to be a fraud in the game and an unaware, clout chasing grifter, it would have to be dave at this point. Let's just be real.
Hearing this diss. It sounded more like Mac was going after Nova more then Tom. And honestly Mac is only coming after Tom because people thought Mac was dead, they forgot about him and Tom is MUCH bigger then what Mac will ever be now. Overall it was a 5/10 diss but A LOT of personals and will be interesting if Tom replies.
Only white Trump supporters like Tom
Agreed 5 years with chat gp
Mac has mostly been uninvolved with rap, though. It feels more like his passion or hobby than a real pursuit now, which is entirely fine. Nothing could ever negate the path he paved for a lot of people.
facts.
5/10 is bit harsh. It was a very good diss. But I agree that it almost felt like a diss towards Nova more than Tom. Lyrics towards her were insanely insluting. He did it for a reason though. He wants the smoke and tries to force Tom's hand. Fact to the matter is, Tom is a relevant rapper, Mac is not. He's the "funny youtube rap video guy". I understand that he's a very good rapper, made tracks with Tech etc. but nowadays Tom is running circles around him career-wise.
Mac trying to get attention from Tom's success, and their old dis battle. Bringing Nova into this in such a disrespectful way. And for God Mode had some lines about him? He had to talk to Knox if it was about him. Please this song is made for all his haters, even if those lines was about Mac, he wasn't the focus. just a side note. Mac ain't on Tom's min, and if he hears of this he will not respond directly like Mac
Yah for him to take this long to come up with a dis. He’s prob been crying for night after night trying to come up with a dis. And I know some of tom’s past history. And he’s not a punk
I've been waiting for this vid. I saw Cliff's reaction last night...
This year must be the beginning of another era of rap or something, I mean holy shit how many beefs we gonna get?! We only half way through the year 😂😂😂
The culture of what it was is coming back… although some forgot how it is. This was ok but also stabbing for kills. A way of shutting mumble rap, I’m here for it lol
@@billyfineday2924 I'm just glad that I'm around to see it this time, unfortunately wasn't alive for the initial culture.
I'm here for it 👌
knox got the best breakdowns
You're never going to see this, but in the expanded view of the title details on Macs video, it has more lyrics. It continues on about the Execs.
Looks like he wants to try to set up a no win situation for Tom. Tom said he wouldn't do disses anymore, so it was a calculated decision to come out at this as a diss track. Hoping Tom responds so that he can call Tom a liar and get him to to break his word, or on the other side Tom keeps his word of not responding and then Dave "claims the win."
He loses regardless, he disses Tom over a mention yet... didn't respond to Toms jabs at his wife kids etc and has no passion to defend his kids, YET he gets a non-named drop mention and he suddenly have passion. Like Mac takes an L regardless.
I think nova should send a diss at him
Just like when they went after Adam for saying he wasn't going to rap anymore.
@@samuelpancake4084 nova's to busy fucking other dudes
Thing is if Tom doesn't respond Tom wins because 1: he kept his word about not dissing anymore, and 2: it shows that restarting a beef with Mac isn't worth Tom's time, if he does respond, Mac can't call him out for responding because he's the one that is provoking a response in the first place, and Tom will definitely cook him all over again.
That deep voice at the end "maybe your best course.... would be to tread lightly" is from Breaking Bad when Hank learns that Walter White is Heisenberg he's told that after Hank attacks him
Low-key the hardest Walter White line besides "Stay out of my territory."
The to tread lightly part was walt telling hank in breaking bad
With the saw voice
First thing first, GET AN ADAPTER FOR YOUR CAMERA lol.
My interpretation from this that you may have missed is:
- The lyrics referring to Nova are mainly in response to Mac Lethal Sucks with slights jabs to God Mode
- Mac tryin to hit us, as fans, with the stereotypes is going to be his undoing. He just opened up the door for unsigned and underground artists to attack.
- Tom sharing his contributions is more of a way for others to know that he is proud of the USA and that the other artists don't share the same pride.
- He took shots at too many people and he will receive many many responses.
- Him putting Nova in the crosshairs several times is the absolute worst move. Yes, Tom did put Mac's wife (or ex-wife) in some lyrics but he didn't stoop that low.
- He claimed he is a star. I didn't even hear of Mac Lethal until Tom's diss track.
- He crossed the line putting his mother into this and making Nova lines as a sub/"female dog".
- The artists that he claimed created political wrap is mostly wrong. Their message was more on the equal treatment of all by enforcement officers while Tom has brought to light the "higher government's" shortcomings. The only other artist that went to Tom's length before he has is Eminem.
- Since when did he go on tour with D12?!
- Unsure how Eminem will take that. That comment could backfire tremendously.
- The line about people that buy a case of bud light just to shoot it is a straight shot at Kid Rock. BAD MOVE!
There are other things but these are the most impactful in my eyes.
I used to watch a lot of Mac Lethal as a kid. One of my favorite reactors bringing one of my top 10 out of retirement is awesome!
Crazy that Knox missed the Kid rock reference, "people who buy bud light just to shoot it"
I know, right⁉️ Black Pegasus blew right by it, too. TY😊
Because it was gay?
It wasn't 'just to shoot it'. That went viral and kicked off what was likely the most devastating corporate boycott of all time. 'just to shoot'? Nah. Just to make a company lose massive market share and come crawling back to the actual people who drink it.
He didn’t miss it. I love Knox so much, but the one thing I always hate is that he feels like refuses to ever alienate anyone. He won’t say anything political - even when this track references politics, he doesn’t mention what those politics are. He’s a UA-camr over anything else… including a rap historian, sadly. He doesn’t want to lose views, so he won’t just say the thing out loud. So much Nazi talk in this, that image of crucifixion, the J6 nod. He clocked it all… he just made a choice not to talk about it.
I agree about reaching across the isle to a degree… but Knox does this very often. He won’t ever say the quiet part out loud. He won’t alienate his audience. As someone who lost my job because I refused to work with Nazi sympathizers…. Every time I see Knox in this mode, I just want to leave a little bit.
@@Freakuency_DJ its called being a fence sitter.... welcome to the internet anyone with a brain will do just that lol
When did Lethal EVER read Frederick Nietzsche!!!??? NEVER!
The angle that I would view this in is that this is separate from their first beef and this is strictly from Tom’s diss on god mode, prompting this track. I hope Tom responds because beef always makes good music🤟
also, thank you for taking the time to break this down for us.
Knox: "losing interest on the backend of this song", Mirrors David's career.
💯
Mac Lethal: "I'll pay 50k to live battle you."
Also Mac Lethal: "I had to rewrite this 3 times and it took me a month."
@Trollsby_Trollin and even then he just spewed woke nonsense that will lose him more views than he gains. He is the typical clown who screams racism when he can't handle the truth.
@@ruggedwalrus1553 I don't give enough of a fuck about any rapper to try to look them up freestyling, so do your own damn research fan boy. This video just auto-played while I was at work. All I know about Tom Mcdonald is that he's a Canadian that likes wearing banana hammocks with maple leaves on his junk who decided to move to America to grift on anything controversial he can find a rhyme for. Never even heard of Mac Lethal until this video, but their voices sound the same to me, and it all sounds like shit.
He waited for fathers day, nothing wrong with being calculated.
@6060juggler it wasn't calculated it was absolutely pathetic. He is like if reddit or Tumblr was a rapper at this point. Lol
@ruggedwalrus1553 you say that yet all mac did was spew brainless talking points while pretending facts he dosent like makes someone racist. Also the fake nice guy act is pathetic when he has always been a trash person.
Knox, Id say Id agree with you that there's no rules in a rap battle IF Lethal hadn't put a long diatribe in his description and comments about how racist sexist homophobic Tom is and how awful that is, when this diss is FULL of all three things.
Knox! Anytime I want to understand a song or rap I just go to your channel cause You are the best at breaking it down!! Thank you!!
💯!
Alot of similar things being said from Upchurch and Mac towards Tom. Love the reaction man, keep up the badass work!
That's exactly what I thought as well!! I said this on another reactor, and I got a strike. Which speaks VOLUMES!!
Totally agree! IMO, this has Church's prints ALL over it!
Knox the 🐐 reactor. Only had to look up one bar. Respect
Holly shit man, were you "Friend zoned" by Nova?
Exactly!!!🤣
She's had alot of dudes in her "zone".
Respectable family men stay away from sluts like that
no, he made sure to diss nova too because she ghost writes tom’s garbage
Stop with the bullshit lol
@@ErinJeanette
You know lethal has been waiting for any reason to lash out at tom- nobody just makes a 7 minute track about someone who makes an off-handed remark literally talking about how he regrets battling with him. Tom been living in his head rent free for half a decade 😂
Dude been writing these bars in his head for the last 5 years and still didn’t even come up with anything original
Dance with the Devil still gives me goosebumps
I'm thankful that I found you when the OG battle happened and now you're showing me there's more! Thanks!
When fighting Monsters is a famous Friedrich Nietzsche quote....
thank you, i wanted to make this comment but better to bump yours
Thank you. Someone else knows their philosophy. When you look into the abyss and the abyss stares back at you.
@@greg6924 - Yes Sir! (essential reading for psychology and philosophy.)
Mac left too much on the table here, obviously doesn't really know the monster angle in psych, but not surprised.. it’s nietzsche
@@greg6924so Batman also quoted Nietzsche
Hope you feel better soon Knox take care of you ☮️🙏🫶
I would lay money down that neither Tom nor Nova will respond to this. As far as mac getting a divorce , I did see a news piece about them separating which is probably partially why Mac went so hard because it was true.You don't get pissed off about people saying shit that ain't true.
Tom MacDonald has been living rent free in Mac Lethal's head this whole time.
Yo Knox, I bought one of your "BARZ" shirt!
It's sick! As a Rapper & Pkmn Trainer, this shirt is one of my favs!👌🏾
I’ve come to the conclusion that Dave (aka Mac Lethal), is a very angry person who is easily triggered.
Example: In Tom’s “Lethal Injection”, he said: “It ain't a joke, when you're going broke... and you got a daughter at home”. That was NOT a diss of Dave’s daughter but his parenting. Dave got all butt hurt and attacked Nova in his response. He also brought up Tom being Canadian and other BS.
Fast forward to now. In “God Mode”, Tom said: “The last time i battled the man that i trampled lost his career and then had a divorce. That wasn’t fair, homie got torched
I feel the weight like i’m carryin’ around a corpse.”
That was NOT a diss. It was an apology for Tom having a part in what happened to Dave - “… That wasn’t fair, homie got torched …”.
Again, Dave got all butt hurt and took 2 months to release a diss track. Once more, he slanders Nova, trying to hurt Tom and he brings up the Canadian thing again. It comes across as the same diss that he dropped back then only, this is way more angry and intended to be hurtful. If anyone had ever said anything like this about my wife, I would have been a man and handled it privately. The only indication of any kind of response might have been in the Obit section of the news.
I know Crypt did ghost writing on the first diss from Dave. Apparently Dave is so filled with hate and anger, he couldn’t come up with anything new and just went with the very same diss but with more vitriol. Apparently, he really can’t write his own lyrics.
As far as the Canada thing: Tom has lived in the U.S. for 10+ years. He came here legally. I had no idea that Dave was such a hard core xenophobe. My great grandfather was born in Spain and my grandfather was born in Mexico. We came here legally through the port of entry in El Paso, Texas. Does Dave think I can’t be a proud American? Maybe Dave should go back to wherever his ancestors came from.
In the end, I think Dave has some anger issues to work through and needs to unbunch his panties. He is absolutely not in a healthy headspace and needs help.
Lastly, I have heard this track once and that was 1 time too many. I am not viewing your reaction but I posted this comment for your “Engagement” algorithm.
This Hispanic is, and forever will be #hangovergang 🤙🏽
You lost me at "that was not a diss"... not reading the rest.
@@ticskitmusic656 Cry harder
@@ThugHunter444 have you seen your profile picture? No one's crying but you buddy.
Facts my man. I literally only clicked for the comments. Now Knox, if you read this comment know that I love you fam. But I listened to this track once and no more.
@@ticskitmusic656 it wasn’t a diss. You’re just walking around, looking for drama where none exists. Dave’s diss wasn’t even original, it rehashed all the talking points that Crypt wrote for him 5 years ago.
Dave is irrelevant and just looking to revive his long dead career.
At the time this took place:
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- Tom MacDonald:
- Subs: 1.32M
- Views: 297,997,471
- Mac Lethal:
- Subs: 2.95M
- Views: 290,963,836
- Top Track: Cover song while cooking breakfast
- Views: 40M
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Currently:
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- Tom MacDonald:
- Subs: 4.61M
- Views: 1,612,401,950
- Mac Lethal:
- Subs: 2.86M
- Views: 308,901,061
That’s called; “Game over man!”
Dang, this brings me back to before I graduated highschool! What a thing to randomly bring back.
Stan can rap a little bit but, unfortunately he's chasing his tail and in love with in this case Tom Macdonald to the extent he was so butthurt he had to make an entire song dissing him when he was only barely mentioned in God Mode and then wait like a month to put it out.
“You’re not even in the top 10 of rappers your girlfriend’s fucked” 😂😂😂😂 I love Tom, but that line was epic
Nah its cheap !
@@raymondmailloux9593is it cheap because it’s the truth? Because it is the truth whether you like it or not, you can name AT LEAST 10 😂
@@Dragginfleye how is this true? Nova was literally raised in a family of musicians dealing with rap, had rapper friends and everything, and I'm sorry but her career is much bigger than this dude's that's trying to diss her through Tom. That's probably his problem! that he is insignificant even compared to Nova. She has been with Tom for 7 years, are about to get married and this micropenis man of nothingness is dissing her for previous alleged relationships, which even if they are legit, she had every fucking right to have as a human being. 10 rappers? I hope she's fucked 100! how is that a problem when she's been in a serious relationship for so long and been so supportive of her man? What's wrong, "Lethal"? Your wife ain't acknowledging you no more?
@@Dragginfleye also, yeah. NAME 10 RAPPERS SHE'S DATED... with facts. Thank you. Meanwhile from "whosdatedwhom": Nova Rockafeller has had no other relationships that we know of. But noooo, draggingflEYE sees all, knows all. You misogynist pos
The line doesn't mean shit if it's not true bruv. This Diss is FULL of straight up LIES & FULL of contradictions & video is cringe! Mac said he toured with D12 right? After this "Diss" came out KUNIVA of D12 mentioned on X that D12 NEVER met Mac & NEVER toured with him! Mac's a straight up liar. Tom's not losing sleep & won't get outta bed over this! #MACISWACK
That end creepy voice instantly had me thinking Church.
What? It’s from Breaking Bad
I love your breakdowns, Knox! ❤ you are top tier!!!!
I hope tom replies with a yt short and then hes like "Oh yea dropping new merch, link in bio!" 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't think Tom meant his reference to how he felt about the original Mac battle as a direct diss, but may have been niece in that
Exactly. He was literally using it as a reason to say he refuses to respond to other people, because he feels bad about entertaining the Tweet Mac made, which was exactly what Mac said in this diss, that they squashed the beef on IG.
Very confused how it goes from: "We squashed the beef" to Tom using the beef between him and mac as a reason to not do any more, to Mac somehow taking it as a diss and making a diss at Tom.
@@HaruQFTom said he dissed lethal so hard he ended his career and made him get a divorce. That’s a diss.
@@awkwardninja5738 it’s the weakest diss known to man. It’s worse than if someone called you a poopie head and actually meant it with all their heart.
Clearly mac is getting emotional over being mentioned for no reason.
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What do you want Tom to say? “I won’t do disses because the last time I did-“ finish the line. The only thing that makes sense is he didn’t like what happened to his opponent after the beef, which is what he said. Clearly not a sneak diss, but Tom giving the reason he doesn’t want to do diss tracks anymore.
Wow, you certified Mac this time.... Well yea, it was better put together than the back and forth years ago, but Mac still is baseless on many points, though this time has a few valid ones. Attacking Nova, HOG, Tom's parents were pathetic attempts to get a response from Tom. Tom will not respond....but Nova might.... LOL, so I guess that might work out for Mac.
Firsttttt I love Knox’s responses! Time to see Knox go after lethal just as he destroyed Jean! (Edit) I hoped Knox would battle lethal too! I just love the way Knox raps! This was my thoughts before the video! After I think it’s good he paid respect to both and remained neutral but giving honor to the bars!
You obviously commented before Knox said he featured Lethal on a track🤦♂️🤣
...you thought he'd protect Tom?😂
And you're 3rd btw
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Church had Tom in a track so...
Yes, we get it knox is a nazi sympathiser and loves tom mcdonalds.
Take tom’s ween out of your mouth before you start typing next time.
Thanks for always bringing an unbiased and thorough breakdown. It was a strong diss rap, and I gotta give ML some credit. I understand that in rap battles anything is fair game, but I would've appreciated it more if it's like the epic rap battles of history - play dirty, but facts only.
You see he took a shot at kid rock , people that buy bud light just to shoot it
you're reaching. he's just generalising those who are mad at budlight for turning gay.
Not everyone will see it that way
I feel like it's not reaching when kid Rock literally did that. I guess anyone could do that because it's a little general but it's not that general though.@@wishtheyunderstoodme
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Kid Rock literally did that specifically because of Bud Light doing a pro-trans campaign. That's the only reason anybody would know that reference. That's what it's a reference to. If you don't see it that way, you're flat wrong.
@@wishtheyunderstoodme 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hey Knox, great breakdown as usual. Just wanted to hop into the comments and tell you that since you said you weren't well that I hope you recover quickly. Take care brother. #hUmaNITY
This reaction has more views than the actual video. Lmao
Not true lol
@@gnomtrs7341but not far off...
@@thesinwagintf u mean? Doesn't matter if it's a matter of hundreds or thousands of views, it's still not true. Why r u so delusional?
it literally does not
lying nazis are lying lmao
Man Knox you’re the absolute best at this! What a time to be alive! 💯
Been waiting 2 days for this! Let’s go!!!!!
This why I started watching your reactions your break downs are wild knox!
All he wants is to have Tom revive his career again after how long since Tom end it
It's been on his mind for years he even said it himself he rewrote it three times
I'll make this clear too I think it's the best diss song he ever did
He said he rewrote the verse three times because the punchlines won't cut it, and he's right. Mac had more punchlines in his first diss then Tom had in both of his, and it didn't work because the majority of people listening to the battle were Tom fans and they don't appreciate clever writing. So he scrapped all the punchlines and took a more direct approach to it. That's why this track is upsetting Tom fans way more then the first one, so was definitely the right move.
@@djglennthat's 100% bullshit otherwise he would done this sooner then now it's convenient he has a new album coming out so he's using Tom to get traction for the sells...he did this same shit when mac put out Mac lethal sucks 2 and he said thanks for the free publicity
So yeah no as for the diss track it was great my only complaint it took you forever because he's using Tom to try to sell his album
Also battle rap fans it's not just Tom fans battle rap fans in general it's there own type of group and that's a retarded statement
@@djglenn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Sure that's what it is. Not that it took 5 years to make this.
@@djglennthis smells strongly of cope
@@djglenn disses generally r more about the content than the writing. its like a roast battle but the content cant be made up. mac is just salty he lost and didnt like tom pointing it out. i dont care if tom responds, would be nice if he did but between the mac fans and tom haters its just too salty to even follow.
Immortal technique is a rare Beast of an MC. I'm glad you gave him a shout out. Make sure you check out his other music including the 4th branch and the point of no return.
One of the guys from D12 tweeted that he doesnt know Lethal and he didnt go on tour with them putting the Eminem line to rest that it wasn't sais.
ML went on tour in Australia with Swifty Mcvay. I was there.
That's different than going on tour with D12. 😂 we know who you wanna fuck though lol 😢 why you mad bruh you probably went to see lethal live lol
Also, reading the tweet it did kinda seem like swifty was confused and talking bout Tom, not Mac 🤔
The fact that Royce Da 5’9 had mentioned Tom in his song “Greed”, saying he might not agree with his views but respects his right to stand on them, right after the “Dear Slim” release. Shows they seen it and didn’t have an issue.
@@Dank-rc6mt Royce has also dropped fire emoji's on a couple of Tom's songs.
Almost certain Tom already responded to him having “materialistic” things in no response but it might be another song
He responded to it in God Mode.
He has a call out to a bunch of his songs probably been looking through them to find anything he could
Thaaaaaaank you! Will listen AFTER work. Hope all is well with you
I never would have heard any of you all if not for Tom MacDonald!
Same here!
Been waitin on you before i listened to this. get him knox.🏴🤓✌️
Just dropping by to say Love ya Professor! ✌️🫶
When does anyone say enough is enough.
I think he was talking about dax about the shirtless black thing and the laugh is definitely one of the Dax's signatures as well
Was the Chris Benoit bar not enough for him?
For real I feel like not a lot of people got that
That lame ass bullshit line wouldn’t put anyone down what the hell lol do you Tom fans even listen to other rap music? If you did you would realize that Tom is a corny ass joke
Why would it be? That bar held no weight.
@@JakeyChaos actually it holds more weight…bro did destroy his family life himself.
@@cream_city nah, it was ass imo, but you're free to disagree
Mac did his subliminal disses first. He says it was squashed and didn't know where the mention on God Mode came from but on his IG he was promoting his tour and said something about "don't worry, you won't see Ben Shapiro" and there were other things
lmao yeah dude, totally saying "you won't see ben shapiro" is a subliminal that warrant " I beat this guy so bad he lost his career and wife" lmfao
Yall say hes irrelevant but be following him everywhere 😂😂
@@dontask3613 it was more than that one post. You throw enough subliminals you gotta expect a response. Same goes for what Tom said in God Mode
@@format9802 1. I am a fan of both 2. I don't follow either on anything other than UA-cam. 3. Never said he was irrelevant. 4. I was just pointing out that the song started with a claim that Tom started the subliminal stuff when he had been doing it for a while
damn i didnt know that. I thought tom started this shit again thanks for letting me know
Hey Knox,
Hope you're doing ok. Sounds like things are rough atm
I was today years old when I heard of Mac Lethal. I thought lethal was from Cypress Hill😂
Omg did Knox really call Rhymesayers “RhymeSavers”??
Lol well he did say he's sick.. but yeah 🤦♂
Yeah. Why does everybody sleep on atmos and that whole camp?
That Emily Willis bar is so out of pocket 😂
hes trying to be edgy! thats about it lol
@@phatal4573 That's pretty much his entire diss. It's just dragging Nova through the mud, and bringing up things Tom already addressed.... Only two bars hold any weight and it's Nova slander and about Tom's Mom.
@@HaruQFI agree and he’s talking about dead flows he’s literally sounded the same monotone style the whole time these guys tweaking frl I fw with Mac but he sounds so woke in this
@@ShadowDeathGnot only that, calling Tom’s fans Nazi or Tom a Nazi is fucking wild. A Nazi would never rap with a Jew, and I’m fairly certain that small parts of the black community that’s listening to him won’t like being called a Nazi.
@@Direwolf9818 yeah or being called black Jews lmao
"I guess it's that time of the year; hi I'm here to revive your career....."
Glad someone remembers this.
Nova must've rejected Mac 😂
She's Tom's ghost writer