As a 47-year US Merchant Mariner (now retired), may I say you and your crew handled your vessel brilliantly. Congratulations. I've heard spring lines called "the poor man's bow thruster." Knowing how to use them is essential, regardless of vessel type. Bow thrusters are expensive, difficult to retro-fit in older vessels, and prone to failure. Without competence in the use of spring lines, a skipper spoiled by dependence on thrusters will eventually face challengers unprepared. Congratulations again!
Agreed, but not having a bow thruster was keeping me at the dock. Now I have one I can use to boat so much more and finally get the experience to use it less.
As a Master Mariner and harbour Pilot (retired) i agree with the previous comment, i think you handle her very well considering the restrictions you have regarding draft, hull shape, river congestion etc. so dont beat your self up.
We're doing our best to learn as quickly as we can. It is a big challenge but it's a huge privilege that we have such a great historic boat and that we have the possibility to accompany her a few decades. It's great that we can share this adventure with many people on board and through the videos.
One more thing speaking of lines... If you throw a rope with a loop to a helping hand ashore it generally means you want it put over a bollard. If you throw a line without a loop it means you want it over a bollard and then returned back onboard as you are not to expect the helping hand to the do knots needed for you. Any knots made are the ships responsability, always. This may vary in different situations and after you have communicated your intentions. But as a general rule...
Suggestion; when leaving the dock with a slip end don't do it with a loop at the end of the line on the shoreside. It may snag (sooner or later it will...) and put you in a difficult spot. Better to keep the loop onboard and use the end of the line that is without anything that might snag.
Great advice. At the moment almost all of our mooring lines have loops on both sides. If the loop gets caught we throw the line overboard and collect it later on. They are floating lines.
Actually no. You should not double your lines on a vessel like this as you will have twice the tear and wear as well. Better to dump the line if it snags and collect it later as these lines float. It is also better to set two separate lines everywhere when staying for a prolonged time. We are talking about a 120 tons ship, not a pocket cruiser. Loops on both ends, loop on the bollard ashore, knot on the ship, if it breaks just flip your line and use the other loop. Get ropes which have sleeves in the loop as this will significantly prolong the lifetime of the loop.
Well, first of all, my advice concerns the line, usually a spring line, that you use to manouver on when leaving the quay. Not all other lines. This can be arranged before leaving when which line to be used has been decided. Secondly, the ships I’ve sailed through 30+ years rarly returns, so picking up a lost line is not happening. Getting the harbourmaster po’ed is near to guaranteed not counting the cost of a lost line or the problem you might have from missing it. Besides, floating or not, lines in the water can still be sucked down by a propeller, especially if it’s more than a few meters floating about. So, in short, when mooring and beeing tied up, use the loop. Before leaving change the necessesary line(s) to lines without loops.
@@nhm2896 For us a new line is more than expensive as it is made of plastic which does not belong in the water so we will return to reclaim it, that would be within a 5 minute time frame to do so. It won't hinder my daily routine and the guest have some entertainment. We will reclaim any plastic we find afloat. I will go sails down to pick up a plastic drum if needed.
Barbara: such a epic passage, looks like Daniel is really loving maneuvering Flying Coney in dense traffic with little sea room. She's looking lovely and we are all wishing you a very HAPPY shipyard period.
I can't wait to read your reaction once the boat is back in the water after the shipyard time. We've planned a huge transformation and we can't wait to share the videos with you!
Proud of you for stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things. Especially for having the courage to share it with the rest of us. That is exactly what drew me to your channel and keeps me watching for your new content every week.
Thank you for being a part of this restoration as a viewer and for following this adventure. You're right that maneuvering the boat is a big challenge but it's also a lot of fun. We're still learning something new every day and that's also true for the whole restoration. For us it's important to share the experience and I'm glad you find it interesting!
Bow thrusters are a modern thing, mariners have been docking large vessels for a thousand years without them. It is good that you are having the skills now, when you have the sailing rig installed you'll have a whole extra dimension to deal with - windage!
Since we've learned sailing and docking on unmotorized boats I actually find the wind very helpful in most situations. The weight and the draft of the boat also helps and windage isn't a real problem. But the 7 meter long bow sprit will make a huge difference. Actually that's one of the main reasons why we want to lower the aft deck.
18:32 No, if they see you need help they will give it for sure. When you are obviously a professional, they will just let you do your thing. From what I have seen on camera, you are one heck of a captain. Very professional in planning every move. Getting all crew to understand the plan. And keeping your cool when situations force the plan to change. The debrief afterward is the cherry on the cake. I would not have been surprised when you were rated Master Of All Ships.
If you learn to handle the boat with warping and propwalk everything else is easy. You’re well on your way using two part spring lines. It used to be said of single screw tugs move fast , get in trouble fast. It sounds silly, but don’t loose control of the bow.
Taking it slow and easy is the most helpful advice I got. The difficulty when the boat sits in the mud is that the bow does move different. Instead of the prop pulling the stern to starboard the bow get's pushed to port. That's why using the spring line isn't ideal but it is the easiest maneuver when the board doesn't sit in the mud. With every situation that doesn't work according to plan we learn quite a lot. And I've seen olympic gold medalists making the most funny mistakes when docking their racing boats. So I guess mistakes happen sometimes. I think the best maneuvers happen when nobody is watching 😉🤣
Everything you need to learn starts with doing something for the first time. I think for the less than 100 hours of experience what we're doing is halfway decent. It's quite amazing how much of the boat handling skills from our cat racing past translate into ship maneuvering skills.
When you are recovering a spring line, it is best to pull the end in that doesn’t have the soft eye. If you ever have a line catch on the bollard at the critical moment… well you will have a problem!
We speak about potential problems before leaving the dock and since most of our mooring lines have eyes on both ends (and we don't want to cut them) our way of dealing with it is leave the line behind and collect it later on. Not ideal, I know.
I think you are doing very well. As time goes on, you will learn exactly how Flying Coney handles and everything will become much easier. I love seeing the beautiful vessels that travel those waterways. So different from American waters where everything is fiberglass and new. Those ships have such character!
Thank you very much for the compliment. It's not easy to learn something new and it's also not easy to put the learning curve out on UA-cam. It often feels like people expect you to be perfect right from the beginning.
Famose last words but I think we've been though the worst. We now know that the boat can be rescued and that she is definitely worth saving. So it's just a matter of time until she will be back sailing the oceans.
Embrace the prop walk and plan to use it. It makes your docking manouvers look much more professional. and...Give your bowman a mop. Not to clean up the mud on the deck, but to push off other boats without scratching anyones paintwork.
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I've actually driven boats in Friesland. Boats much smaller than Flying Coney. I was very glad to have both a bow and stern thruster.
With all the drawbacks on bowthrusters already mentioned I'll add one more. When you find yourself in a situation when you'r really in need of one it often happens it shows to be to week to do the job. There is no such thing as a bowthruster that is too strong... There is one other way though. This is "old school". Drop the anchor so that it almost stops you from going forward. You can then increase the power on the propeller without catching up speed. With the increased power you may use the rudder better to manouver the ship. Find the angle that you want to approach the quay with. Then use the propeller an rudder angle needed to be slowly inching your way to the quay. And if things don't work out just ease of on your propeller and the anchor will keep you from hitting anything too hard :). Always practice in calm and safe conditions first so that the person handling the anchorwinch knows what's happening and what to do.
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I have a 1940's motor yacht, 60 feet long with no thrusters. She has done well without them for around eighty years, why change now. I do have the benefit of twin screws which is a huge plus. I see twin screw yachts with thrusters at both ends getting it wrong all the time. People expect the vessels to do it for them now and don't bother learning. You are doing brilliantly and the more you do it and get used to the vessel the better you will become.
The middle bollard is not big enough and it is there for a very important reason. Your ship is too round at the bow, if you bring out the first line from the bow it gets very difficult to get even with the shore as you will automatically pull the bow towards the shore as you will have noticed by now. The first line (spring) you bring out should come from that middle bollard so you can sail into the line with the motor on dead slow forward and get the ship even with the shore. In the Netherlands this line is called the 'Urker spring'. I am skipper on the Dutch charter fleet. I can help you with learning how to maneuver and sail your vessel. Feel free to ask anything.
Our forward bollards are a bit aft of the bow. By now we do have found a few standard maneuvers that proved to be working. The easiest one is to get a foregone from the front bollard to the shore and then put the engine in revers. With the help of the prop walk the boat swings nicely to the shore.This works better on starboard side. We found it's possible to use a forespring as long as it's long enough. Yes the bow swings slightly to the dock but it's not dramatic. Your idea to use the Urker spring sound helpful but I'm curious how to get the bollard close enough to the dock. Or would you throw over the middle swing from the bow?
excellent episode - great skills and so well conveyed in a format not always friendly to this sort of storytelling - wonderful to see the joy it brings to both of you!!!
Once the prop wash is learnt on how to use it very satisfying. Great job.😅❤ Being able to move 120 tons where you want is always good. 3 crew all that needed. 😮 You can use the amidship cleat when doing locks. You can also use the Bow cleat as you did. Keep at it now.😮😂❤
Indeed, using the prop wash to your advantage is very satisfying. It can be used very effectively. Once the boat is sitting in the mud the prop can easily make your life very hard. Instead of "pulling" the stern to starboard (in our case), it's swinging the bow to port while the stern is almost locked in place. This way the boat starts sliding and craning towards windward and it's very hard to get away from the dock.
Have you tried leaving the dock using an aft spring and the engine in reverse? Then the bow will leave the cay first and you can sail away easily (if the wind allows).
I feel for you. You can end up stopped, waiting for a bridge, in a narrow channel with moored boats on both sides and wind trying to blow you across the channel. Equally bad is one of those locks with sloping sides where you cannot tie up and have to hold the boat in the middle.
Locks are either incredibly boring or quite challenging but nothing in between. So far the lock keepers tried to best to give me lot to learn and think about in making it as hard as possible for us. No big problem but it could be so easy.
So nice to see another adventure even a short one . and for me knowing where you are and where you are going gives me a chance to look up my maps and fallow your trip as if i was plotting a course for myself .
It's actually a brilliant question! Using a dinghy as a tugboat is actually a standard maneuver. But for pulling it off you need a few more crew. At least one person in the dinghy but also few to get the dinghy craned into the water and back on deck. Of course you also need a dinghy and an outboard engine that is strong enough.
Well, that's pretty much what we did. Flying Coney is registered as a pleasure craft and we do have a license for pleasure crafts that isn't restricted in size. But there are not many boats of this type that are bigger. On the other hand we do have several thousand hours sailing experience on sailing dinghies and catamarans. I keep telling myself a boat is a boat is boat. Right?
Charming video. It is a great feeling when you manoeuvre and berth a vessel sweetly. Unless you are always going to have a deckhand them maybe Barbara needs to develop her manoeuvring skills? P.S. loved the music.😉
Barbara is quite good in handling the docking lines. In thousands of hours of sailing together we developed a way of communicating without talking. We know what the other one needs. But most of the time it's easier to find someone for the deck work than for filming.
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Im a little confused. Is Flying Coney built during WW2, or was it an other vessel (I assuming the 120ft that you mentioned in the description) that is from WW2?
The boat was built in 1941 in the Netherlands for the Germans. Originally it had steel frames and wooden planks. After the war in 1950 the wood was replaced by riveted steel plates. Both boats were roughly 79ft long. When the boat was converted into a steel boat a fixed steel bow sprit was added so we we have a lengthy overall of 82ft. But including the wooden bow sprit that Flying Coney had and that we will install later on the length was and will be about 105ft. Maybe even 112ft if we add davits for a dinghy. Usually that's called length over spars. Obviously the spars do not affect the length of the hull and most of the time it's not part of the length overall. The actually weight of the boat is about 120 metric tons.
To big , to much problems for me . And i am older 73 this year and sail my fiberglass boat made 1969 she will surviwe me, just now sailing to the med. 😊
you should really get a real aluminium tender, with 60hp outboard as a minimum. you gain a bow thruster and a "ferry car", time to let go of that mickey mouse thing you got, you need a working platform
At one point we will buy an inflatable dinghy with a 20hp outboard. Most of the time this should do the trick without taking up a lot of deck space. we also want to have a rigid dinghy but that needs to be a wooden one and mostly for sailing.
@@FlyingConey so your plan is to have 2 dinghies and at the same time you are worried about deck space? and the idea is still to take ppl sailing, crossing oceans? and wooden?! you mean traditional built, or wood epoxy built? are you trying to run a sailing school, off of the big metal boat?
We're planning on having two big deck lockers next to the rudder shaft. One of them will be occupied by the inflatable dinghy. We also want to have davits for the traditional wooden dinghy. We still want to sail oceans and yes one big aspect is to teach the skills needed to operate a traditional sailing rig with square sails and gaff sails.
@@FlyingConey Whats the expected full capacity, person wise, for the ship? I can see there is a proclivity to maintain things classic by wanting to have a traditional wooden dinghy, im just pointing out that maintaing Flying Coney alone is a big task and will need round the clock care, if you are to avoid long refits, so the added trouble of a wooden dinghy seems like extra time, imo. People who start out in dinghies, become, in general, "better" sailors because their wind awareness is better, i know this from experience as i started when i was 7, its like riding a bike: some aspects will be imprinted forever. Im sure you will have a liferaft, but what happens if said liferaft fails to inflate initially?, will you get all the people into the wooden dinghy while someone pumps the inflatable one? you might have time for it, after all, one must step up to the raft not step down, but are you sure you wont be dealing with people in distress which will divert essential manpower duties to care for them? im not being difficult here, i think you have a working sailing vessel, that needs working "rated" equipment on it, and that might force you foregoing the aesthetics in favor of other, more pratical and safe choices. all the best
As a 47-year US Merchant Mariner (now retired), may I say you and your crew handled your vessel brilliantly. Congratulations. I've heard spring lines called "the poor man's bow thruster." Knowing how to use them is essential, regardless of vessel type. Bow thrusters are expensive, difficult to retro-fit in older vessels, and prone to failure. Without competence in the use of spring lines, a skipper spoiled by dependence on thrusters will eventually face challengers unprepared. Congratulations again!
Agreed, but not having a bow thruster was keeping me at the dock. Now I have one I can use to boat so much more and finally get the experience to use it less.
As a Master Mariner and harbour Pilot (retired) i agree with the previous comment, i think you handle her very well considering the restrictions you have regarding draft, hull shape, river congestion etc. so dont beat your self up.
We're doing our best to learn as quickly as we can. It is a big challenge but it's a huge privilege that we have such a great historic boat and that we have the possibility to accompany her a few decades. It's great that we can share this adventure with many people on board and through the videos.
One more thing speaking of lines... If you throw a rope with a loop to a helping hand ashore it generally means you want it put over a bollard. If you throw a line without a loop it means you want it over a bollard and then returned back onboard as you are not to expect the helping hand to the do knots needed for you. Any knots made are the ships responsability, always. This may vary in different situations and after you have communicated your intentions. But as a general rule...
Suggestion; when leaving the dock with a slip end don't do it with a loop at the end of the line on the shoreside. It may snag (sooner or later it will...) and put you in a difficult spot. Better to keep the loop onboard and use the end of the line that is without anything that might snag.
Great advice. At the moment almost all of our mooring lines have loops on both sides. If the loop gets caught we throw the line overboard and collect it later on. They are floating lines.
Actually no. You should not double your lines on a vessel like this as you will have twice the tear and wear as well. Better to dump the line if it snags and collect it later as these lines float. It is also better to set two separate lines everywhere when staying for a prolonged time. We are talking about a 120 tons ship, not a pocket cruiser. Loops on both ends, loop on the bollard ashore, knot on the ship, if it breaks just flip your line and use the other loop. Get ropes which have sleeves in the loop as this will significantly prolong the lifetime of the loop.
Well, first of all, my advice concerns the line, usually a spring line, that you use to manouver on when leaving the quay. Not all other lines. This can be arranged before leaving when which line to be used has been decided.
Secondly, the ships I’ve sailed through 30+ years rarly returns, so picking up a lost line is not happening. Getting the harbourmaster po’ed is near to guaranteed not counting the cost of a lost line or the problem you might have from missing it.
Besides, floating or not, lines in the water can still be sucked down by a propeller, especially if it’s more than a few meters floating about.
So, in short, when mooring and beeing tied up, use the loop. Before leaving change the necessesary line(s) to lines without loops.
@@nhm2896 For us a new line is more than expensive as it is made of plastic which does not belong in the water so we will return to reclaim it, that would be within a 5 minute time frame to do so.
It won't hinder my daily routine and the guest have some entertainment.
We will reclaim any plastic we find afloat. I will go sails down to pick up a plastic drum if needed.
Thats great. Even better is to do whatever nerds to be done to make sure it doesn’t even happen in the first place
Barbara: such a epic passage, looks like Daniel is really loving maneuvering Flying Coney in dense traffic with little sea room. She's looking lovely and we are all wishing you a very HAPPY shipyard period.
I can't wait to read your reaction once the boat is back in the water after the shipyard time. We've planned a huge transformation and we can't wait to share the videos with you!
Proud of you for stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things. Especially for having the courage to share it with the rest of us. That is exactly what drew me to your channel and keeps me watching for your new content every week.
Thank you for being a part of this restoration as a viewer and for following this adventure. You're right that maneuvering the boat is a big challenge but it's also a lot of fun. We're still learning something new every day and that's also true for the whole restoration. For us it's important to share the experience and I'm glad you find it interesting!
Bow thrusters are a modern thing, mariners have been docking large vessels for a thousand years without them. It is good that you are having the skills now, when you have the sailing rig installed you'll have a whole extra dimension to deal with - windage!
Since we've learned sailing and docking on unmotorized boats I actually find the wind very helpful in most situations. The weight and the draft of the boat also helps and windage isn't a real problem. But the 7 meter long bow sprit will make a huge difference. Actually that's one of the main reasons why we want to lower the aft deck.
18:32 No, if they see you need help they will give it for sure. When you are obviously a professional, they will just let you do your thing. From what I have seen on camera, you are one heck of a captain. Very professional in planning every move. Getting all crew to understand the plan. And keeping your cool when situations force the plan to change. The debrief afterward is the cherry on the cake. I would not have been surprised when you were rated Master Of All Ships.
If you learn to handle the boat with warping and propwalk everything else is easy. You’re well on your way using two part spring lines. It used to be said of single screw tugs move fast , get in trouble fast. It sounds silly, but don’t loose control of the bow.
Taking it slow and easy is the most helpful advice I got. The difficulty when the boat sits in the mud is that the bow does move different. Instead of the prop pulling the stern to starboard the bow get's pushed to port. That's why using the spring line isn't ideal but it is the easiest maneuver when the board doesn't sit in the mud. With every situation that doesn't work according to plan we learn quite a lot. And I've seen olympic gold medalists making the most funny mistakes when docking their racing boats. So I guess mistakes happen sometimes. I think the best maneuvers happen when nobody is watching 😉🤣
You may be lacking in some areas, but you make up for it with enthusiasm and a willingness to learn and get on with the job at hand. Great video 2x👍
Everything you need to learn starts with doing something for the first time. I think for the less than 100 hours of experience what we're doing is halfway decent. It's quite amazing how much of the boat handling skills from our cat racing past translate into ship maneuvering skills.
You are doing well and are the envy of a lot of people. Your results are very impressive. Thank you for what you do.
Thank you for saying that. It's indeed not easy to share the learning experience but I'm glad people see the progress.
"If your not living on the edge, your taking up too much space.........."
Great job!
When you are recovering a spring line, it is best to pull the end in that doesn’t have the soft eye. If you ever have a line catch on the bollard at the critical moment… well you will have a problem!
We speak about potential problems before leaving the dock and since most of our mooring lines have eyes on both ends (and we don't want to cut them) our way of dealing with it is leave the line behind and collect it later on. Not ideal, I know.
That's a beautiful ship. Congratulations.
I think you are doing very well. As time goes on, you will learn exactly how Flying Coney handles and everything will become much easier. I love seeing the beautiful vessels that travel those waterways. So different from American waters where everything is fiberglass and new. Those ships have such character!
Well done, Daniel !
Thank you very much for the compliment. It's not easy to learn something new and it's also not easy to put the learning curve out on UA-cam. It often feels like people expect you to be perfect right from the beginning.
Good to see you both are still going and haven’t given up 👍👍 You both have my respect ✊
Famose last words but I think we've been though the worst. We now know that the boat can be rescued and that she is definitely worth saving. So it's just a matter of time until she will be back sailing the oceans.
It is a pleasure to see you hone your skill with Flying Coney and I love you attitude; "You must always enjoy it".
Embrace the prop walk and plan to use it. It makes your docking manouvers look much more professional.
and...Give your bowman a mop. Not to clean up the mud on the deck, but to push off other boats without scratching anyones paintwork.
My advice if you're drifting and unable to control the boat is to use the hand brake. Works every time for me when I'm in my car.
🤦🏻🙄....🤪... 😂
@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 I've actually driven boats in Friesland. Boats much smaller than Flying Coney. I was very glad to have both a bow and stern thruster.
Nice photography.
Thank you very much. We do our best to make the best videos possible.
It would be cool if you guys credited the music. It’s great!
With all the drawbacks on bowthrusters already mentioned I'll add one more. When you find yourself in a situation when you'r really in need of one it often happens it shows to be to week to do the job. There is no such thing as a bowthruster that is too strong...
There is one other way though. This is "old school". Drop the anchor so that it almost stops you from going forward. You can then increase the power on the propeller without catching up speed. With the increased power you may use the rudder better to manouver the ship. Find the angle that you want to approach the quay with. Then use the propeller an rudder angle needed to be slowly inching your way to the quay. And if things don't work out just ease of on your propeller and the anchor will keep you from hitting anything too hard :). Always practice in calm and safe conditions first so that the person handling the anchorwinch knows what's happening and what to do.
4:05 "you want us to have a bow thruster, then you can help by donating; however, we not gonna install one until the very last touches of reno..." LOL
Love your choice of background music!!
Totally enjoyable! Thanks very much.
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I have a 1940's motor yacht, 60 feet long with no thrusters. She has done well without them for around eighty years, why change now. I do have the benefit of twin screws which is a huge plus. I see twin screw yachts with thrusters at both ends getting it wrong all the time. People expect the vessels to do it for them now and don't bother learning. You are doing brilliantly and the more you do it and get used to the vessel the better you will become.
Great job yo guys! Looking forward to seeing the boat in the yard again.
The middle bollard is not big enough and it is there for a very important reason. Your ship is too round at the bow, if you bring out the first line from the bow it gets very difficult to get even with the shore as you will automatically pull the bow towards the shore as you will have noticed by now. The first line (spring) you bring out should come from that middle bollard so you can sail into the line with the motor on dead slow forward and get the ship even with the shore. In the Netherlands this line is called the 'Urker spring'.
I am skipper on the Dutch charter fleet. I can help you with learning how to maneuver and sail your vessel. Feel free to ask anything.
Our forward bollards are a bit aft of the bow. By now we do have found a few standard maneuvers that proved to be working. The easiest one is to get a foregone from the front bollard to the shore and then put the engine in revers. With the help of the prop walk the boat swings nicely to the shore.This works better on starboard side. We found it's possible to use a forespring as long as it's long enough. Yes the bow swings slightly to the dock but it's not dramatic. Your idea to use the Urker spring sound helpful but I'm curious how to get the bollard close enough to the dock. Or would you throw over the middle swing from the bow?
excellent episode - great skills and so well conveyed in a format not always friendly to this sort of storytelling - wonderful to see the joy it brings to both of you!!!
Once the prop wash is learnt on how to use it very satisfying. Great job.😅❤ Being able to move 120 tons where you want is always good. 3 crew all that needed. 😮 You can use the amidship cleat when doing locks. You can also use the Bow cleat as you did. Keep at it now.😮😂❤
Indeed, using the prop wash to your advantage is very satisfying. It can be used very effectively. Once the boat is sitting in the mud the prop can easily make your life very hard. Instead of "pulling" the stern to starboard (in our case), it's swinging the bow to port while the stern is almost locked in place. This way the boat starts sliding and craning towards windward and it's very hard to get away from the dock.
Always enjoy your videos and your journey. Good luck and I look forward to your next adventure.
Have you tried leaving the dock using an aft spring and the engine in reverse? Then the bow will leave the cay first and you can sail away easily (if the wind allows).
I feel for you. You can end up stopped, waiting for a bridge, in a narrow channel with moored boats on both sides and wind trying to blow you across the channel. Equally bad is one of those locks with sloping sides where you cannot tie up and have to hold the boat in the middle.
Locks are either incredibly boring or quite challenging but nothing in between. So far the lock keepers tried to best to give me lot to learn and think about in making it as hard as possible for us. No big problem but it could be so easy.
i am glad all went well. take care and have a wonderful weekend
So nice to see another adventure even a short one . and for me knowing where you are and where you are going gives me a chance to look up my maps and fallow your trip as if i was plotting a course for myself .
good see you got a ship nice see you take on a boat build keep up the great vlogs on the channel thanks for the share on channel
great job, great video, great music
Glad you've enjoyed the video and the music!
Well done 😊😊
Well done sir!
It's probably a silly question, but could you use a small inflatable as a sort of tugboat?
It's actually a brilliant question! Using a dinghy as a tugboat is actually a standard maneuver. But for pulling it off you need a few more crew. At least one person in the dinghy but also few to get the dinghy craned into the water and back on deck. Of course you also need a dinghy and an outboard engine that is strong enough.
Great job but you do have a commercial skippers license, right? You didn't just jump on a 120 ton vessel and take off.
Well, that's pretty much what we did. Flying Coney is registered as a pleasure craft and we do have a license for pleasure crafts that isn't restricted in size. But there are not many boats of this type that are bigger. On the other hand we do have several thousand hours sailing experience on sailing dinghies and catamarans. I keep telling myself a boat is a boat is boat. Right?
Charming video. It is a great feeling when you manoeuvre and berth a vessel sweetly. Unless you are always going to have a deckhand them maybe Barbara needs to develop her manoeuvring skills?
P.S. loved the music.😉
Barbara is quite good in handling the docking lines. In thousands of hours of sailing together we developed a way of communicating without talking. We know what the other one needs. But most of the time it's easier to find someone for the deck work than for filming.
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Why don't you install a bow thruster? It would make your life so much easier! Or maybe a spare paddle, works like a charm on my laser!
that is just what Daniel explained in this video.
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On the Laser we've used rolling tacks if the wind died down. I might be crazy enough to try one on a square rigger as well. Great comment 😂👍
@@FlyingConey Right! Generally taking advantage of hull shape and stearing by shifting weight might be something to try out!
Drop the music and it would be great xx
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Nice boat i love your videos❤
Thank you so much 😀
Im a little confused. Is Flying Coney built during WW2, or was it an other vessel (I assuming the 120ft that you mentioned in the description) that is from WW2?
It's 82 ft and 120 tons.
The boat was built in 1941 in the Netherlands for the Germans. Originally it had steel frames and wooden planks. After the war in 1950 the wood was replaced by riveted steel plates. Both boats were roughly 79ft long. When the boat was converted into a steel boat a fixed steel bow sprit was added so we we have a lengthy overall of 82ft. But including the wooden bow sprit that Flying Coney had and that we will install later on the length was and will be about 105ft. Maybe even 112ft if we add davits for a dinghy. Usually that's called length over spars. Obviously the spars do not affect the length of the hull and most of the time it's not part of the length overall. The actually weight of the boat is about 120 metric tons.
why not just set up an electric trolling motor with bluetooth and use that as temp bow thruster!!!
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Hello guys , are you still in Sneek ? How can we contact you ? We like to pay you a visit . Greetz SY myway
Write us a mail: sailing@flyingconey.com Would like to meet you.
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To big , to much problems for me . And i am older 73 this year and sail my fiberglass boat made 1969 she will surviwe me, just now sailing to the med. 😊
Please bin the music. It’s not mtv.
you should really get a real aluminium tender, with 60hp outboard as a minimum. you gain a bow thruster and a "ferry car", time to let go of that mickey mouse thing you got, you need a working platform
At one point we will buy an inflatable dinghy with a 20hp outboard. Most of the time this should do the trick without taking up a lot of deck space. we also want to have a rigid dinghy but that needs to be a wooden one and mostly for sailing.
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so your plan is to have 2 dinghies and at the same time you are worried about deck space?
and the idea is still to take ppl sailing, crossing oceans?
and wooden?! you mean traditional built, or wood epoxy built?
are you trying to run a sailing school, off of the big metal boat?
We're planning on having two big deck lockers next to the rudder shaft. One of them will be occupied by the inflatable dinghy. We also want to have davits for the traditional wooden dinghy. We still want to sail oceans and yes one big aspect is to teach the skills needed to operate a traditional sailing rig with square sails and gaff sails.
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Whats the expected full capacity, person wise, for the ship?
I can see there is a proclivity to maintain things classic by wanting to have a traditional wooden dinghy, im just pointing out that maintaing Flying Coney alone is a big task and will need round the clock care, if you are to avoid long refits, so the added trouble of a wooden dinghy seems like extra time, imo. People who start out in dinghies, become, in general, "better" sailors because their wind awareness is better, i know this from experience as i started when i was 7, its like riding a bike: some aspects will be imprinted forever.
Im sure you will have a liferaft, but what happens if said liferaft fails to inflate initially?, will you get all the people into the wooden dinghy while someone pumps the inflatable one? you might have time for it, after all, one must step up to the raft not step down, but are you sure you wont be dealing with people in distress which will divert essential manpower duties to care for them?
im not being difficult here, i think you have a working sailing vessel, that needs working "rated" equipment on it, and that might force you foregoing the aesthetics in favor of other, more pratical and safe choices. all the best