Are The Old World WARRIORS OF CHAOS the best rules ever? I compare how they match up!!!
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Last of these reviews for this year - I look at the latest chaos rules and see how they stack up compared to some of the strongest previous army books. Once more I will be using highly technical SCIENCE!!! to break down the core elements and see just how potent they are.
FOR CROM!! Or Krom... You Know...
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I've been collecting old chaos books whenever they pop up for cheap, so this video is an incredible resource for me.Thanks!
What a lovely surprise at the end of a working week. Thank you for the video.
DUDER! The audio quality is so much better! And you are less shouty too (sorry if it is annoying but it makes a difference).
I love your stuff! Keep it up please!
Thanks, I tried to moderate the audio while filming and also after when editing.
I think 6th, 7th and 8th books should all be their own thing. 6th edition book had daemons, but lacked Dragon Ogres, Trolls, Ogres and Giants since those were in the Beasts of Chaos book. Every Tzeentch hero and lord was a sorcerer and for the last time you could have beasts, daemons and mortals in the same army. Only 2 special characters, but more were released in other publications.
7th edition brought new units; Warshrine, Forsaken and Hellcannon. Hellcannon was the only one of those that had a model (it came originally in Storm of Chaos book, so it is playable in 6th too) Eye of Gods table was back. 10 special characters! Warriors of Chaos gained a 2nd attack
8th edition brought even more new units. Hellstriders of Slaanesh, Chimera, Gorebeast Chariot, Slaughterbrute, Skullcrushers of Khorne and Mutalith Vortex Beast. All the 10 special characters from 7th edition are back with nothing new.
Now if we look what was available with 8th edition book and look what's available in The Old World, we've lost Hellstriders, Slaughterbrute, Skullcrushers, Mutalith Vortex Beast and Warshrine. Warriors of Chaos are weaker, like in 6th edition. What we have gained are thematic new lists that are more CROM and KROM and METAL. Lots of new Marauder options. And old Forgeworld models. This is a rare case where in my opinion The Old World is not an evolution of the 8th edition, but a step back and reimagination.
Agreed on splitting out 6/7/8
6th into 7th was the removal of cross chaos play.
Great idea, lovely to be able to compare so many army books and rules!
Thanks! Make sure you check out the reviews of the other army books!
@@90percentgeek I can't wait for Beastmen Brayherds!
I might do a video at some point speculating what units they might add in the beasts arcane journal.
Ha! Too scared to tackle the 3rd edition lists I see! Therefore they must have won out of sheer awesomeness! Yes! I wish to roll up 5 random warbands and use them as my army with multiple gifts and mutations for all my characters and units!! Yes give me the the tables! I need the tables!!!
I'll be honest, third edition was before my time so I don't feel confident in taking it on. Whereas I had buddies who played both 4th and 5th edition versions of Chaos as a kid and played chaos myself in 6th and 7th edition. What would you score 3rd using my metrics?
@90percentgeek all 10s! But seriously, rolling up a chaos warband with chaos weapons and mutations and gifts etc from the first RoC book as the most chaotic thing you could ever do!
@@coljmuzz Roll on the D1000 table and take your chances? Or decide that as luck would have it you'd happened to roll something that vaguely resembled at least some of the models you actually had...
Picking my Journal up soon!
Definitely worth it, the narrative army lists are very cool.
A buddy working ina small, local store got a signed copy by Tuomas for that 5th Ed thing.. Was a copy that was supposed to be given out as a price or something but.. he kept it, lol.. Good times.
I liked the 6th Ed alot. Decent power level and cool background with nice mini-releases, those models were cool. 7th Ed was just.. Silly OTT OP BS
I have a copy of the 6th edition Skaven book that was likewise meant as a prize but our manager gave it out as a reward for us all doing well over the summer school holidays.
@@90percentgeek Ah that is cool! :D
i have them all my DWARF KING!!CHAOS RULES!!!
Do you still have all the cards as well?
@@90percentgeek Ofc i do
I dont want to mention the minies.....I HAVE THEM ALL!!!
The answer is obviously no because 3rd Ed Chaos had the best books, the best lists and the best models...
And now to watch the video.
Let me know if you agree with me after you watch the video, and what you think 3rd would have scored!
@@90percentgeek I got interrupted. I'm expecting you to have a lot of love for 4th/5th, be somewhat disappointed (though in a cheerful way) in 6th and have bucketloads of enthusiasm for the new one. Anyway, back to it!
@@90percentgeek I enjoyed the video, seemed very fair-minded. Slight departure for you in terms of the outcomes!
Hard to score 3rd as 'Army Books' didn't really exist in the same way. There's the list in Warhammer Armies which you'd probably find rather limited in itself. It sort of is though it does include minotaurs and beastmen (that didn't have to be goats) which are fundamental in my view. It also got additional variety from the 'Chaos Allies' section which apart from anything else included proper Chaos Dwarfs from before they moved to Assyria, some of which had Bazookas which is also extremely important!
Then of course you've got the original Realm of Chaos books which would have to score off your scale for background as they were just amazing, wild things with incredible artwork etc and it was all new. And there was loads of it. How practical some of the ideas for things you could do really were I'm not so sure - for me they were mainly endless entertainment in terms of playing around with stuff in your mind. My army just came from Warhammer Armies though. And most of my Chaos models came in a mail order army I got shortly after the release of Slaves to Darkness. I did add some models (fleshhounds, a Bloodthirster, a Juggernaut) to the warriors, knights, thugs, beastmen, minotaurs etc from that, but the demons never saw battle.
I don't like that the Norse got turned into Chaos Marauders - much preferred them as the Viking-types of 2nd and 3rd Eds. One day I would like to bring about the return of Halfdan the Chunderer and other Norse characters I remember from way back when. Something I like about the new arcane journal is that the Wolves of the Sea list looks quite adaptable into a proper (i.e. not Chaos at all) Norse list. Bit miffed that they used the term 'Huscarls' for cavalry rather than the general's guard of heavy infantry though, but you can't have everything. You could learn (or at least be inspired to find out) a lot more about history and culture back when Rick Priestly and Richard Halliwell were writing Warhammer than since, and there was also a lot more in there to laugh about.
Great video man! Hit me up for more Warriors of Chaos videos! Subbed.
Thanks! I'm planning on doing an Old World Battle Report refighting the battle between Warriors of Chaos and the Dwarfs of Ungrim Ironfist from White Dwarf 176 - just need to get my anvil of doom and Ungrim himself painted!