Honestly I prefer that they dont tell us if they were really dating or not. Having a status is scary sometimes, without status they can continue working for a long time and not worry about other things. What if they told us they were dating and then after a year they broke up its gonna hurt the fans and the couple so much even their work will be affected, so its better if they just dont tell us. It's selfish of me as a fan but still i prefer if they just enjoy the company of each other without thinking too much of the label of their relationships
I agree with your opinion. Fans get hurt and angry over an onscreen couple when they "broke up " and it affects them so much that they have to go therapy but If an actual couple break up I fear, that will impact so much on both actors career.
Good point. Also it can be fun to speculate, but in reality I don't need to know their personal relationship status, it's their private life and if we don't require actors who play straight romance to declare their sexual/romantic orientation, why on earth should we require that of actors who play in queer romance? It's not like there's no prejudice, discrimination or negative bias for out queer people.
Great video, you summirized both ships very well. One thing I think is important to keep in mind is no matter how much progress Thailand has made, and how much it feels like the BL niche is so progressive, it might not be good for them professionally to be out as queer people. Every actor who is out and proud doesn't have as much work. Cooheart for example has his own clothing brand and doesn't do as much promotion for other brands like other actors in the BL sphere do, and he doesn't get many roles outside of Wabi Sabi (which is owned by a gay man). GMMTV still doesn't let any of their male artist come out (they have way too many artists for some of them to not be queer). Artists like PP Krit are very obviously femme presenting and no one in their right mind would ever accuse him of "faking" it but he also has never used any labels (at least not that I know of). It's possible that the people with money the ones who sponsor series and BL ships might not promote them with as much effort if they were actually out.
Yes I have to agree with you. This is still something that the industry should work with. It's just unfortunate that queer and proud artist weren't given the same opportunity as other artist. I hope that in the future this can improve 🙏
Wait, so they pay all this artist to act like gay but the minute they came out, they pull back their sponsorship? I thought Thailand was an open minded country for these thing?
Additionally, if any BL actors come out, they can kiss goodbye releasing music and having appearances, fanmeets and events in mainland China. In Zeenunew's case, coming out would impact Nunew especially hard because he studied Chinese in university and wants more opportunities to work in China.
Even if it is fan service, there are different types of soul mates and different ways to love. It's not always just the romantic, significant other kind. I wish more people woudl be accepting of this.
After meeting MosBank, I am convinced they're in a relationship. You can't fake the emotions in their eyes when they look at each other. Moreover, some of their answers were full of love towards each other. They didn't act like the others actors at the event, you could see the difference between friends and lovers. ZeeNuNew are pretty open about their status. We should believe what they tell us.
I don’t like the fact that some ppl want to out actors or push them to say “we are dating” cause’ you don’t know what’s happening in their lives, being in Thailand doesn’t mean it’s safe for the queers and they are plenty evidences of this! So I prefer to these actors feel safe and if they want to share and say it ! I swill still support all of them!
do one for billybabe tooo.... im so conflicted i believe theyre real but the no open comfirmation is just sooo edge like... YEAH THEYRE NOT OBLIGATED ANYONE TO GIVE OUT THEIR RLNSHIP BUT I WOULD HONESTLY LOVE FOR ALL OF THESE 3 TO BE TGT AND AND LOVE
yess billy and babe should have been in this first part but i need to cut it because it'll be too long. They will be in part 2 because they have a lot of moments to tackle too😊
They have confirmed it indirectly. They were asked how far they have gone into their relationship. And Babe answered by saying. Haven't u been watching Mumu Tufu story? After the bathroom scene. Which means whatever we saw that day was them being themselves.
@@AyebeafredaThorpe ik everyone has seen tht interview so on tht basis so have mosbank and zeenunew.... It's an indirect confirmation not the straight up mewtul / bothnewyear / chalarmJames (oo were boyfriends who'll get married) WE LOVE ALL OF THEM AND THERES NOBODY AGAINST THEM NOT STRAIGHT UP SAYING IT THT SEE WE'RE DATING ITS THEIR FREE WILL AND THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO ANYONE TO SAY ANYTHING...
(Not about the ones in the video). In my obvservtion, many of thai bl actors are not so good or bad at acting in the drama. But so good at acting for fanservice. P.s. Just my opinion, don't come at me.
I like fan service, but i absolutely love when the artist do it to their partner naturally because the two has been childhood friend or maybe best friend so doing this was just so comfortable and not like they're forced to promote their drama(Like forcebook, ohmnannon, yinwar etc)
I find it funny how fan accused those who aren't in relationship but keep fan service a couple, yet here they still didn't believe zeenunew are ACTUALLY a couple. Even in one of interviews, zee look so done how they still thought the two just doing fan service and had to confim it again and again. These fans need to know that this isn't korea where their company had to address every aspect of their life. If they confirm dating, then they are dating people 😂
Zee and Nunew have been together since they first met. There is a lot more going for them behind the scenes than I think, meets the eye. Now with that being said, as was stated here that Nunew said Zee is his lover and Z wants to keep things together. This is my take. They have been together regardless of what word you would like to use to describe whatever relationship they might have. Yes, fanservice is part of the job, however, there are so many instances that speak of their closeness, and I mean beyond being just friends. Keeping us on the edge of our seats regarding closeness to each other I believe to be intentional and seems to be working as far as everyone loving them and keeping them foremost in their mind. Now, with that being said, there is another entity to be considered. Credibility and integrity. I know, you are probably thinking right now what this guy is talking about. If this is ALL fanservice and nothing else, this could be detrimental to both of their careers, not to mention what we would think of their managers. the blessing of both of their families and let's not forget, both of them have outside business interests and I do not think the companies would take to well to ALL fanservice. Now, with that being said; The gifts they have given to one another, their mutual support, and remember, Zee is a CEO of a clothing company that help sponsor Nunews Dream Catchers. They have indicated before that they are a couple, and they have stated before they are partners. Now I have said a lot and if I have offended anyone, please accept my sincere apology, for this is not my intent. This is merely food for thought. Personally. I fell there are true partners in every sense of the word. And that partnership can encompass any or all of the following intimacies. Professional, intellectual, emotional, physical. Personally, I would like to send my thoughts, prayers, love and respect from my heat to their two heats.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hermosos 😘 son únicos los dos juntos ZNN 😘 tienen lo mejor del 🌏 sus fans felicidades 🎉siempre están para apoyarlos 😘 todos somos Zunshine NanaNu y ZonZon 😘
Watch anything about DaouOffroad and you will know they love each other, they call each other partner and hate when ppl say they are fanservice so ya. And BillyBabe just watch their mumutofu vlog and that will answer your questions
idk about others but zeenunew are not dating. They've never confirmed it actually, that's why after the so called "Woody's interview confirmation", they said many times in different interviews that they don't have a lover, they don't want one now and they don't have time for love neither. They said they still want to focus only on working, Zee also said he will tell Nunew once he gets a lover. They get along, they work well together. Ambiguous words and skinship are part of fanservice so they are doing good for now, like Zee said, it won't last forever (professionaly speaking), like all the people who start a ship to get money and fame. It's common, we know. Their shippers like to spread their ambiguous words as a confirmation and insult everyone who says the opposite but the reality is that they never talked about it. I'm just stating facts of what they directly said. Doing fanservice and being coworkers or friends is not wrong or a big deal, fans must be happy they have a good friendship at least, other ships don't even have that. Anyway, I hope their ship fans can still support them even if the delusion is not real. ps: I'll comeback to this comment in the future, it's funny to see how things how things turned out after the insults the shippers will probably leave here because "they're right, I'm wrong" haha.
Well that’s all taken completely out of context and not what they’ve said at all. No hate if you personally believe it’s all friendship/FS. But it’s not ok to casually misrepresent what people have said and view it through a non-Thai cultural lense. For example, not lasting forever is a Thai Buddhist concept, that is even included in marriage vows, as they don’t believe in permanence. All relationships end either through breakup or death and not fixating on permanence is seen as healthy there.
I believe in my head cannon that the following couples are dating: 1. MosBank, 2. (were dating) MewGulf, 3. ZeeNuNew, 4. TommyJimmy Mii2, 5. OffGun Couples that I strongly suspect: 1. FortPeat, 2. JoongDunk. If that makes me delusional, then fine. 🇺🇸🤝🇹🇭
I'm in mode, if there is a couple that I don't feel, it's ZN, I'm sorry, some will go up to the ceiling or insult me, but it's my feeling, it's crazy, I don't feel their connection, (they may have it for you), but my heart doesn't vibrate when I see them, however, I made efforts, but the total void, they don't touch me like FirstKhao, YinWar, PondPhuwin, I like the friendly, brotherly vibration that they give off, it's not the desire to know them together that interests me, it's just that I want to have this spark concerning them, but........no, they are beautiful together, yes, but......., I think I'm more connected with MB, because they are unfiltered, Mos doesn't hesitate in his demonstrations, finally, we know that fan service is the key word in these couples, but fan service is pushed to a point that it "misleads" fans who want "their couple" to be together and sometimes it gets their wish, but ultimately we have to stick with it, appreciate them and admire their talent, another apology if my comment offends some.
Here's a controversial take. Zee and nunew's 'relationship' could be problematic. Zee is much older and should've been professional during cutie pie shooting instead of leading on Nunew. Nunew being very young could easily be taken advantage of. I don't see industry ppl speaking up but I've seen few journalists and internet fans call it out. Zee has shown similar interest in one other person in the past and his attitude on rejection seems concerning.
Don't know what other similar persons are you talking about cause Zee never had interest in someone esle like with Nunew. Zee said before with Saint it was fanservice since beginning on the interview Zee answered saying Saint only like a brother and with Nunew he has always answered more. brothers.
Umm may I know which person has zee been interested in the past other than nunew?? He never tried to lead on saint. Nunew was 20-21 when they were filming cutie pie so why are you exaggerating it as if he was 15?? A 20 year old definitely has a fully functioning brain to understand stuff. You can't see it as nunew liking him back but as nunew being "taken advantage of" lol. Also how do you know his attitude towards rejection?? Have you seen him being rejected by someone in the past?? Like not on the internet but irl???
Honestly I prefer that they dont tell us if they were really dating or not. Having a status is scary sometimes, without status they can continue working for a long time and not worry about other things.
What if they told us they were dating and then after a year they broke up its gonna hurt the fans and the couple so much even their work will be affected, so its better if they just dont tell us. It's selfish of me as a fan but still i prefer if they just enjoy the company of each other without thinking too much of the label of their relationships
I agree with your opinion. Fans get hurt and angry over an onscreen couple when they "broke up " and it affects them so much that they have to go therapy but If an actual couple break up I fear, that will impact so much on both actors career.
I totally agree with you. In my opinion it's totally okay if they didn't tell us and it will also lessen the pressure for the bl actors
Good point. Also it can be fun to speculate, but in reality I don't need to know their personal relationship status, it's their private life and if we don't require actors who play straight romance to declare their sexual/romantic orientation, why on earth should we require that of actors who play in queer romance? It's not like there's no prejudice, discrimination or negative bias for out queer people.
Great video, you summirized both ships very well. One thing I think is important to keep in mind is no matter how much progress Thailand has made, and how much it feels like the BL niche is so progressive, it might not be good for them professionally to be out as queer people. Every actor who is out and proud doesn't have as much work. Cooheart for example has his own clothing brand and doesn't do as much promotion for other brands like other actors in the BL sphere do, and he doesn't get many roles outside of Wabi Sabi (which is owned by a gay man).
GMMTV still doesn't let any of their male artist come out (they have way too many artists for some of them to not be queer). Artists like PP Krit are very obviously femme presenting and no one in their right mind would ever accuse him of "faking" it but he also has never used any labels (at least not that I know of).
It's possible that the people with money the ones who sponsor series and BL ships might not promote them with as much effort if they were actually out.
Yes I have to agree with you. This is still something that the industry should work with. It's just unfortunate that queer and proud artist weren't given the same opportunity as other artist. I hope that in the future this can improve 🙏
Wait, so they pay all this artist to act like gay but the minute they came out, they pull back their sponsorship? I thought Thailand was an open minded country for these thing?
Additionally, if any BL actors come out, they can kiss goodbye releasing music and having appearances, fanmeets and events in mainland China. In Zeenunew's case, coming out would impact Nunew especially hard because he studied Chinese in university and wants more opportunities to work in China.
@@flewPpp did he still get the opportunity after he came out? I didn't know he studied Chinese.
This !
Even if it is fan service, there are different types of soul mates and different ways to love. It's not always just the romantic, significant other kind. I wish more people woudl be accepting of this.
I Don’t know about others but in gmmm 99.999% is fanservice... We alll know that. It's okkkk... We love that.
After meeting MosBank, I am convinced they're in a relationship. You can't fake the emotions in their eyes when they look at each other. Moreover, some of their answers were full of love towards each other. They didn't act like the others actors at the event, you could see the difference between friends and lovers.
ZeeNuNew are pretty open about their status. We should believe what they tell us.
I don’t like the fact that some ppl want to out actors or push them to say “we are dating” cause’ you don’t know what’s happening in their lives, being in Thailand doesn’t mean it’s safe for the queers and they are plenty evidences of this! So I prefer to these actors feel safe and if they want to share and say it ! I swill still support all of them!
do one for billybabe tooo.... im so conflicted i believe theyre real but the no open comfirmation is just sooo edge like... YEAH THEYRE NOT OBLIGATED ANYONE TO GIVE OUT THEIR RLNSHIP BUT I WOULD HONESTLY LOVE FOR ALL OF THESE 3 TO BE TGT AND AND LOVE
Yasssss I agree
yess billy and babe should have been in this first part but i need to cut it because it'll be too long. They will be in part 2 because they have a lot of moments to tackle too😊
They have confirmed it indirectly. They were asked how far they have gone into their relationship. And Babe answered by saying. Haven't u been watching Mumu Tufu story? After the bathroom scene. Which means whatever we saw that day was them being themselves.
@@AyebeafredaThorpe ik everyone has seen tht interview so on tht basis so have mosbank and zeenunew.... It's an indirect confirmation not the straight up mewtul / bothnewyear / chalarmJames (oo were boyfriends who'll get married) WE LOVE ALL OF THEM AND THERES NOBODY AGAINST THEM NOT STRAIGHT UP SAYING IT THT SEE WE'RE DATING ITS THEIR FREE WILL AND THEY'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO ANYONE TO SAY ANYTHING...
ZeeNenew the best couple, it's nice to watch both sincerely love each other, and cool songs.❤❤💫💫👏👏
(Not about the ones in the video).
In my obvservtion, many of thai bl actors are not so good or bad at acting in the drama. But so good at acting for fanservice.
P.s. Just my opinion, don't come at me.
Agree
I like fan service, but i absolutely love when the artist do it to their partner naturally because the two has been childhood friend or maybe best friend so doing this was just so comfortable and not like they're forced to promote their drama(Like forcebook, ohmnannon, yinwar etc)
ZeeNuNew told Woody's show a year ago that they are a real couple.
For MossBank they were already living together and had a youtube channel together before they started acting so
I find it funny how fan accused those who aren't in relationship but keep fan service a couple, yet here they still didn't believe zeenunew are ACTUALLY a couple. Even in one of interviews, zee look so done how they still thought the two just doing fan service and had to confim it again and again. These fans need to know that this isn't korea where their company had to address every aspect of their life. If they confirm dating, then they are dating people 😂
THANK YOU ! WELL SAID ! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Mos confirmed their relationship in his I Kan Teacha interview. Even said he talked to his mom about them. 🥰
Really wheres mos tell??
Yeah, they never mentioned but we knew #MossBank both were too open with their relationship.
Zee and Nunew have been together since they first met. There is a lot more going for them behind the scenes than I think, meets the eye. Now with that being said, as was stated here that Nunew said Zee is his lover and Z wants to keep things together. This is my take. They have been together regardless of what word you would like to use to describe whatever relationship they might have. Yes, fanservice is part of the job, however, there are so many instances that speak of their closeness, and I mean beyond being just friends. Keeping us on the edge of our seats regarding closeness to each other I believe to be intentional and seems to be working as far as everyone loving them and keeping them foremost in their mind. Now, with that being said, there is another entity to be considered. Credibility and integrity. I know, you are probably thinking right now what this guy is talking about. If this is ALL fanservice and nothing else, this could be detrimental to both of their careers, not to mention what we would think of their managers. the blessing of both of their families and let's not forget, both of them have outside business interests and I do not think the companies would take to well to ALL fanservice. Now, with that being said; The gifts they have given to one another, their mutual support, and remember, Zee is a CEO of a clothing company that help sponsor Nunews Dream Catchers. They have indicated before that they are a couple, and they have stated before they are partners. Now I have said a lot and if I have offended anyone, please accept my sincere apology, for this is not my intent. This is merely food for thought. Personally. I fell there are true partners in every sense of the word. And that partnership can encompass any or all of the following intimacies. Professional, intellectual, emotional, physical. Personally, I would like to send my thoughts, prayers, love and respect from my heat to their two heats.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hermosos 😘 son únicos los dos juntos ZNN 😘 tienen lo mejor del 🌏 sus fans felicidades 🎉siempre están para apoyarlos 😘 todos somos Zunshine NanaNu y ZonZon 😘
I'm still tryna get over Mew and Tul..
Do daouoffroad and billybabe both confuse me ! Love them all
Daou and Offroad have been so clear and loud about their relationship since Laz Icon, how are you still confused 🤭😭
Watch anything about DaouOffroad and you will know they love each other, they call each other partner and hate when ppl say they are fanservice so ya. And BillyBabe just watch their mumutofu vlog and that will answer your questions
Daouoffroad def have something going on with them
Mosbanky and zeenunew real couple in series and real life
idk about others but zeenunew are not dating. They've never confirmed it actually, that's why after the so called "Woody's interview confirmation", they said many times in different interviews that they don't have a lover, they don't want one now and they don't have time for love neither. They said they still want to focus only on working, Zee also said he will tell Nunew once he gets a lover. They get along, they work well together. Ambiguous words and skinship are part of fanservice so they are doing good for now, like Zee said, it won't last forever (professionaly speaking), like all the people who start a ship to get money and fame. It's common, we know. Their shippers like to spread their ambiguous words as a confirmation and insult everyone who says the opposite but the reality is that they never talked about it. I'm just stating facts of what they directly said. Doing fanservice and being coworkers or friends is not wrong or a big deal, fans must be happy they have a good friendship at least, other ships don't even have that. Anyway, I hope their ship fans can still support them even if the delusion is not real. ps: I'll comeback to this comment in the future, it's funny to see how things how things turned out after the insults the shippers will probably leave here because "they're right, I'm wrong" haha.
Well that’s all taken completely out of context and not what they’ve said at all. No hate if you personally believe it’s all friendship/FS. But it’s not ok to casually misrepresent what people have said and view it through a non-Thai cultural lense. For example, not lasting forever is a Thai Buddhist concept, that is even included in marriage vows, as they don’t believe in permanence. All relationships end either through breakup or death and not fixating on permanence is seen as healthy there.
I think that MosBank is just fan service while ZeeNunew is real.
I believe in my head cannon that the following couples are dating: 1. MosBank, 2. (were dating) MewGulf, 3. ZeeNuNew, 4. TommyJimmy Mii2, 5. OffGun
Couples that I strongly suspect: 1. FortPeat, 2. JoongDunk.
If that makes me delusional, then fine. 🇺🇸🤝🇹🇭
I'm in mode, if there is a couple that I don't feel, it's ZN, I'm sorry, some will go up to the ceiling or insult me, but it's my feeling, it's crazy, I don't feel their connection, (they may have it for you), but my heart doesn't vibrate when I see them, however, I made efforts, but the total void, they don't touch me like FirstKhao, YinWar, PondPhuwin, I like the friendly, brotherly vibration that they give off, it's not the desire to know them together that interests me, it's just that I want to have this spark concerning them, but........no, they are beautiful together, yes, but......., I think I'm more connected with MB, because they are unfiltered, Mos doesn't hesitate in his demonstrations, finally, we know that fan service is the key word in these couples, but fan service is pushed to a point that it "misleads" fans who want "their couple" to be together and sometimes it gets their wish, but ultimately we have to stick with it, appreciate them and admire their talent, another apology if my comment offends some.
What?? How does a couple being real have to do anything with you feeling some kind of 'connection' with them??
Here's a controversial take. Zee and nunew's 'relationship' could be problematic. Zee is much older and should've been professional during cutie pie shooting instead of leading on Nunew. Nunew being very young could easily be taken advantage of. I don't see industry ppl speaking up but I've seen few journalists and internet fans call it out.
Zee has shown similar interest in one other person in the past and his attitude on rejection seems concerning.
Let's just hope he didn't hurt nunew😢
Don't know what other similar persons are you talking about cause Zee never had interest in someone esle like with Nunew. Zee said before with Saint it was fanservice since beginning on the interview Zee answered saying Saint only like a brother and with Nunew he has always answered more. brothers.
@@naylaindra7041DON'T DRAMATIC 😂
@@Epona27 ssshh, let her feel the moment😂
Umm may I know which person has zee been interested in the past other than nunew?? He never tried to lead on saint. Nunew was 20-21 when they were filming cutie pie so why are you exaggerating it as if he was 15?? A 20 year old definitely has a fully functioning brain to understand stuff. You can't see it as nunew liking him back but as nunew being "taken advantage of" lol. Also how do you know his attitude towards rejection?? Have you seen him being rejected by someone in the past?? Like not on the internet but irl???
thay jast fan service why thay full everyone 😬
You don’t know, you can’t label ppl if they don’t say it themselves.