The cure is to never see it as power and that is what he never understood about the Jedi and why he feared Qui-Gon Jinn more then most. Qui-Gon Jinn acted as the will of the force and not as the rules itself. He allowed the force to guide his decisions. That is how you get over it but not seeing yourself as having power be seeing that you are just a vessel of the force itself.
Considering what happened to him, it seems he should have been a bit more cautious at least. And really, trusting the force is in itself not necessarily a good idea, the force does not seem to give a damn about individuals or their lives. Oh sure, you get to come back as a force ghost if you were one with it, who is barely able to affect anything, yay.
@@_Muzolf Maybe that was just the will of the force as he would be needed to train Obi wan and he started Luke's training plus protected him his whole life allow him to train under Yoda and turn his father to bring the chosen one to do what he was intended to. So yeah I think it worked out just fine for him as he saw more then himself. He saw what the living force showed him and he was a very large peace in a great plan to return balance to the galaxy so yeah.
@@kitfo18 Ultimately that hinges on parts of his life that we did not get to see. I would most certainly not place much faith in the force considering what happened to him and what his legacy was. Its all nice and dandy that the Sith got overthrown by the end, but if you were to ask the people of Alderaan if the particular events that lead up to that point were really worth it, i think they might have a different take on it.
@@_Muzolf But we did see it. The end of the Obi wan series showed us him starting to teach Obi wan and things like rebels and other shows went far more into it plus you have cannon novels so yes it has been well gone over if you looked beyond the movies at nothing but other cannon sources.
There's a reason the baneite sith didn't pursue immortality (with Bane as a notable exception to buy time) until Plagius. They knew that the power must not rest with an individual but must be passed one to the next so the grand design could be advanced by those still hungry, ambituous, and capable of expanding it.
I’m reading Path of Destruction rn and early in, Bane also draws parallels between the similarities of the Sith and the Republic (led by the Jedi). Bane was critical about how the Jedi protected the Core worlds much more than the Outer rim. The people left out to dry in the Outer Rim were easy recruits for the Brotherhood of Darkness because they had nothing to lose, and the power of the dark side to gain.
I loved the bane trilogy book. And banes assessment that you mentioned is true. It's one are the main weaknesses of both the Jedi order and Republic. Typically they don't care about the about the outer rim
To be fair, there are only couple thousands of Jedi in the whole galaxy. There is simply not enough of them to manage every planet, which varies in size to from big worlds to small worlds which apparently are big as a city (sense of scale in SW is really inconsistent). If every world was as big as Earth, there is no way Jedi can be everyone. They would have to rely on whatever government and police force is in place and they are forbidden to just strongarm everybody Sith style. It's also not like Palpatine's humanocentric Empire did a better job managing mostly alien Outer Rim, which also formed most of Confederacy. :P They mostly pacified them with brutal force and intimidation.
I suppose Darth Vectivis might be in the middle A Sith lord who did no evil and was only interested in power through means being a scholar, not a ruler or even master ⚖️
Personally, I would say Palpatine struck the ballance when he scheming in the shadows. There where no need to fear losing his power, because nobody knew of it.
I think there is a middle ground, though it’s probably easier said than done. But for sure the important thing is to simply accept that some things won’t always be in your control. You can’t always guarantee that your apprentices or followers will always remain loyal, and you can’t guarantee that you’ll be safe forever. Of course, acceptance is not a Sith strength
The wise spot is ironically in the final line of the Jedi Code. There is no death, there is the Force. The fear of death, of losing power, would always cripple the Sith. Bane's Rule of Two was so wise because he recognized that death would always come, there would always be an end. The Rule of Two would always bring an end to one, so the remaining Survivor would logically always be the stronger of the two, and so the Sith would always grow in strength while the numbers remained the same. It was ultimately Sidious, who disregarded the Rule of Two and decided it ended with him, who caused the downfall of the Sith. He crippled Vader so Vader could never rise and overthrow him, thus locking the Sith in a stagnant state where they would eventually be defeated.
Why strive for something that can be taken away? Be happy with what you have and can control. Ambition only makes you want more, just like Power The more you work the more you miss out on the important things.
I see it as a duel edge sword. All Sith were afraid to lose the power they tried so hard to obtain. But those that were true Sith loyal to the rule of 2 acknowledged the importance of the survival of the Sith & accepted the almost inevitable possibility that one day their apprentice would surpass them. In a fucked up way, Bane instituted an ideal that was actually a thoughtful will of fire for the future. & like all fire there must be something to consume for the fire to continue burning.
It was a necessary evil. There was a time when there were more Sith, and they spent more time fighting each other than the Jedi. It was the constant power grab. The Rule of Two ensured that one acknowledged subservience to another, and their power would be gradual and unnoticed. They made the Jedi believe they were dead for years, and used patience the Jedi Order forgot long ago. The self-destructiveness came from the abuse of the Force and a lack of discipline.
I think the middle ground comes down to a risk-reward mentality. so long as the power you wield can minimize the risks of losing it, it is necessary to push your power and continue to try to expand, if only to further reduce the risks you face. but if the risk of losing what you already have cannot be offset by the power you have, if there is no way to further develop your strength without risking it all on pure chance, then you have hit your limit and it is time to pass on your knowledge and power to someone who can carry it forward
There is no middle ground. Power can only be preserved if shared. When individuals start hoarding power, they fail. This is an error the Sith and Jedi make, over and over.
Power is toole not an end in it self. A true jedi do not put mutch value in it and is as happy on coraban as on dagoba. As power brings responsibility it might even be a relief not having to much of it.
I think Grand Admiral Thrawn actually understands this middle ground the best. He is prepared to risk when necessary to make bold decisions but he will also retreat such as at the Sluis Van Shipyards in heir to the Empire. But this quote from "The last command" really shows that he does not have the same weakness the Sith and Jedi share. Joruus C'baoth responds to a question by Thrawn asking if he sees the rise of a new empire without Thrawn leading the Empire. (C'Baoth had just tried to take the Chimaera by Force using his jedi powers). "I see many possible futures," C'baoth said. "In not all of them do you survive." "An uncertainty faced by all warriors," Thrawn nodded. It would be impossible to see a character like Thrawn hide away looking to protect his power. Even after defeating the new Republic Thrawn would have prepared his new Empire to meet the threat of the Vong and any future threats, fully accepting that defeat is something he will most likely one day taste.
@@seanhewitt603 Well so did Palpatine and he was still shit scared of Luke Skywalker becoming a Jedi and destroying him. Thrawns clone was for the more practical purpose of continuing his mission to protect the galaxy from the Yuuzon Vong. Of course the clone was killed thanks to Luke and Mara's intervention so it never even woke up.
Our only weakness Anakin. If you throw Sith down a giant shift of a fully operational super weapon, we die Anakin. Shhh, don't tell anybody. If you do, I might have to clone myself somehow.^_^
This is strong case for Palpatine. He said the truth. All who gain power are afraid to loose it, I agree. This is their flaw. And the Jedi. They need to practice to live without that feeling. May the Force be with you too. Have a great day too :)
What Palpatine said was true, but it's also a lie. This shows in the original trilogy where Obi-Wan and Yoda had accepted the fact that they lost their power and still passed on their knowledge to Luke. On the other hand Palpatine continued to concoct more ways of acquiring more power for himself without passing anything on to Vader.
Yoda said " Train yourself to let go of what you fear to loose." So Yoda knew how to solve the equation, but he was still fearful of what he, and the Jedi Council couldn’t see through the force as a threat. Yoda had no idea that if he couldn’t see what was there, then he should’ve looked at what was not there. What wasn’t there was balance in the force. If so then it would have to have been the "Dark Side" as the sole motivation for the war on both sides. The simple motive & opportunity should’ve led them to the question: why involve the order. A Sith was killed (Maul) there has to be another……….. etc, etc
I'm not convinced this is a common weakness of the Jedi and the Sith, The Jedi were never fearful of being betrayed like the Sith and actively shared their knowledge with others in the hope that others would be better than they were. This is definitely a Sith weakness though and maybe why Sidious was the best, because he overcame that weakness more than any other Sith ever did. Even in his final moments alive, all Sidious thought of was how he was going to get revenge.
The implementation and practice of the Rule of Two is the fear of losing power. Having only two Sith lord reduces the chance of a powerful Sith lord being killed by less powerful ones. To ascend to masterhood an apprentice must accumulate enough power to be able to kill their master. The master on the other hand, must constantly seek to become more powerful so as to not be easily killed by their apprentice. To this even masters have almost routinely withheld some secrets and knowledge from their apprentices. To answer your question this actually where the Sith and the Jedi differ. The jedi are not afraid to share their power and eagerly seek to increase their ranks rather than horde power between only the two most powerful. They view themselves as part of the force rather than masters of it as the Sith do. For the most part jedi are able to accept and embrace the limits of their abilities and strength in the Force. Where so many have fallen to the dark side is the lustful desire for more power and ability than they already have.
When Palpatine was speaking about the tragedy of Plageus the Wise, he mentioned that it wasn't a tale that the Jedi would tell. Did the Jedi even know about Plageus while he was still alive during the prequels (I hope that I'm getting the timeline correct)? If not, then who was the last sith lord they knew about before the Phantom Menace?
Learn to live in the moment and enjoy what you have when you have it. Don’t grow stagnant, but don’t over reach either. His goes back to Qui Gon telling Obi Wan to be mindful of the future, but not at the expense of the moment.
I feel like this is sort of at odds with the Palpatine we know. He's so overconfident that his power is absolute, that he doesn't think the Rebels would be able to destory the second Deathstar. He also doesn't realize that his hold over Vader wasn't in jeopardy when he was attacking Luke with lightening. So are you saying that he learned from the other Sith and wasn't vulnerable to fear and paranoia?
I believe that the two words that strike the balance are trust in the goodness of God (the Force in the case of the Star Wars galaxy) and humility to realize that mortal beings can never be God (or, again, the Force).
The first step to not losing the power you've accumulated... Don't write it down. Second step- play down your strength. Beat every enemy by only as much as is necessary. When people fear you, they will always eventually turn on you. Classic art of war stuff... Rather than Machiavelli.
Sith fear losing their personal power, while Jedi fear losing power they have over others. Well, with Jedi, they fear chaos and war that could start, if they don't prevent it etc. So it could be called influence, stability of galaxy etc., and not power, but it's type of power. I just watched video about code of original Jedi order, before they divided into Sith and Jedi. There was big focus on one line. There is no fear, there is power. Not being able to follow this philosophy was reason, why Sith and Jedi we know were created and it's make sense, that it's fear of losing power, that is their common weakness. It was what created them. Basically, as Original Jedi because involvement in conflict, they started to feel more and more fear, that leads them to fall fully into dark side. Other original Jedi saw it and started fear dark side, so they forbidden it.
This weakness is shared in our current state of affairs in both the political and corporate world. Also, I had no idea about this in both the sith and the jedi. Thank you
Ok, this one my Deceased friend theorized about, where if an Jedi or Sith warrior were to crash on the four Nations multiverse earth , they’d be truly foolish to challenge those tied to the avatar cycle itself here’s why: As this reference from the RoTS notes Jedi and Sith fear losing power…which means if they confronted that worlds master of the four elements, due to their ability to cause an element bender to be locked / taken away from them, my deceased friend theorized that if like with that dimensions Firelord when defeated, any Jedi or Sith who dared attack him, not realizing that he has that ability, could be having their force Abilities become locked / inaccessible by challenging them to battle or to foolishly fight him seeing them as an threat , which my deceased friend theorized while highly unlikely, it’s an interesting thought to consider, due to Palpatine leaking that key factoid of Sith/ Jedi hidden weaknesses ( ie. an Hypothetical ATLA crossover scenario ponderence he had thought about as an hypothetical what if scenario)!?!?
The only true cure of this fear is to cut themselves of from the Force for good period of time then contect to it, teach them not to conestly rely on the Force while still remembering to turst it
Darth Traya was only a third right that Force-user were stronger without the Force, they are stronger if they don’t overly rely on it like the Sith and Jedi. Without the Force they were weaker but they need to hit the bottom in order rise back up. Traya hated the Force so much she did not see the flews of not completely rebuild one’s own abilities and faith in it
Sidious can say the jedi have the same weakness but this isn't the truth. In the clone wars, for example, if the jedi had won the war sonner, they should return to their normal duties. The maximum proof of that is the clome armies: they know that the jedi didn't have the numbee to win the war. Anakin just believed in that argument because he was already misthrusting the council of not telling him all the truth about... What was real, but the council judge that anakin wasn't mature enough to held the information....what was true too
I think what Palpatine said about the Jedi "Every body feels fear of losing power, even a Jedi" is half-true. The Jedi might really feel fear of losing power, but I believe is the power of helping other. If they lose this power, than they cannot help others and serve their purpose. The Sith, on the other hand, fear losing power and being useful for themselves or their own gain. The other part on believing in your apprentice, I think you should believe on them and their capacity to follow their own path. If this mean helping you out on their way, than it is better for you, but don't fully rely on this chance, because you still need to keep doing your stuff.
There shouldn’t be too much light or too much dark there should just be balance and something in between light and dark I don’t quite know what to call it but you get the point
The wise middle ground is to accept your own mortality and not seek power only for yourself, but make the whole world better. That is what the Jedi did, even at their most corrupt.
Palpatin meeting Kreia would be interesting. He would be very weak without the force. Her plan to destroy would be something that would make him Work with the jedi for both would fear that the most.
Your own self-confidence would come into play here. Your confidence has to keep up to the same level of your power. In fact, that is the solution. If you begin to have doubts, this will (in a way) have an adverse effect on your power. Palpatine & Vader are exemplary subjects to, perhaps, prove this. In a novel, I have just "consumed" (freakin' awesome novel!) there was a scene where Vader & "The Old Man" were being attacked by Lyleks, the apex Indigenous predators of Ryloth. They were outnumbered by like 1000:1 (estimate). Trapped in the nest with no way out, Vader stated "We're going to kill them all" and Palps just "cackled" and _they_ did kill them all. To, essentially, anyone else this was a "no win" scenario. Even Vader & Palpatine should have felt even a _hint_ of doubt, but their confidence was so equal to their power that the thought of losing wasn't even considered! Palpatine (at least to my knowledge) never let his confidence drop below his power (plus he was wise to the "weakness") and was technically unstoppable. On the flipside, Obi-wan, on Tatooine, (from that rotten tv series) faced Vader for the first time since the "epic showdown" and he sucked. You can argue that he lapsed in "keeping in shape", but the power was all still there regardless. What was gone almost entirely was his confidence and the effect on his power was blatent and obvious. So, to conclude, I believe confidence _must_ be equal in quantity to the power that you wield. It would take someone with superhuman disapline to maintain this balancing act because a little too much or not quite enough is where yer gonna run N hide like that Skeleton guy in the vid and become useless. \m/
Power corrupts. ultimate Power corrupts ultimately. Those who seek power and control may achieve it. But most Men will be afraid to lose it. Being afraid to lose the power you gain is the Hight of selfishness, and you will soon fail.
I havent watched your whole video yet but my theory is that the dark side is ultimately flawed and self defeating by design. You see there is an escalation in their power and evil up until Darth Plagueis who tries to do things different and is killed by his apprentice, who was not as talented or as knowledable as he was. You can see that Palpatines ambition is the ultimate downfall of the sith as ultimate evil is incapable of attaining ultimate power due to its own nature being a cancer of the force or rather a cleansing fire. From my perspective the power of the sith grows when the Jedi or lightsiders themselves become corrupt/degenerate and the sith rise in order to cleanse the corruption but ultimately they burn out as well. That is the nature of the force in that the dark side is just a correcting mechanism and can never be an end in itself. Therefore basically all of Palpatines philosophizing is only useful in the sense that he deludes himself in order to fulfill his own purpose. The Siths goal in and of itself of physical immortality is not possible and is basically the force itself subtly trolling them with a carrot on a stick while the Jedi path to immortality in joining the force itself is the only true path to enlightenment. The dead end of the Dark side is once you attain the ultimate knowledge you realize that you have to turn back on evil/depravity but at that time you are going to get killed by your apprentice who is more evil than you are. Its the analogy from the phantom menace "There's always a bigger fish."
Andeddu was NOT the Sith that “discovered” essence transfer. Tulak Hord was. He lived after Hord. Hord lived roughly during or just after the first thousand years of the true Sith empire; roughly around from 6,000BBY, five or take a century or two either way.. He and Alloysius Kallig both stated to have died “well before 5,600BBY.. Andeddu lived long after him. We don’t exactly know when he lived either, but it was after Hord that is for sure. But either way, Hord is the one who first discovered it in the timeline. But he still fits what you’re saying here regardless; literally sealing himself within his own damn tomb so nobody would “steal his precious scrolls & knowledge” , he was the definition of the fear of losing power.
Easy. God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Star Wars doesn't have this quote, that's Jedi & Sith are scared to lose power
The Jedi already have a strategy to counteract this weakness, and that is to try to not be attached to things. It has a lot of drawbacks of course, but it is a direct counter to the weakness you speak of.
I have to ultimately and totally agree with Ian!! This is why the Jedi were losing and lost. I love the fact they’re going to take it back to the ORIGINS of the Jedi because that WASN’T their way in actuality. The Jedi have to find their way back to how to truly balance ALL emotions. This is the way
I've never understood the attraction to power beyond living a comfortable and happy life. If you want to rule the Galaxy, imagine how much actual work that takes. How many decisions you'd have to approve every day, every hour. Constantly fearing for your life and yes becoming paranoid of losing power because you've just painted a large target on your back.
This is an all-too human weakness, one shared by every narcissist, despot and billionaire in Earth's history. The fear of death, betrayal and loss haunts even the meekest of us, hence why the Jedi are not immune to it either. I think the movies DO show the solution though, and at least six Force users have demonstrated it; Qui Gon, Obi Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke and Leia. The one common thing between them? They accepted their "deaths" and ascended to Force Ghosts. They all knew, at least in their reality, "no one is truly gone." That "loss" is not REALLY "loss." It's just change. They embraced the change and their own sacrifice so that future generations could achieve what they could not. Some call it "killing the ego" or "enlightenment." I'm not exactly a "spiritual" person but I do really find the philosophy of such things intriguing in fiction.
I think the answer is in Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius' life and beliefs and philosphy. He is the shining example of how to wield ultimate power with no apparent weakness. He cared less about things that didn't matter and not wise to worry about - things like the future in which we have no true control. He only cared about what truly matters- the present and also how we react to things happening around us (the only thing we can truly control). These Sith Lords cared too much about what may happen in the future that it negatively impacted them in the present which cut short their potential. Sure, these Sith Lords will die being assassinated by their followers but that is the nature of their culture. They should learn to accept that fact. I'm not saying they should take no action against those who want to kill them, but instead learn to understand the nature of their being/culture in that they will be targeted to be killed and learn accept that fact (what will be will be). In other words, stoicism.
Acceptance. I think that's also a cornerstone of not only stoicism, but most religions and philosophical traditions. Google a summary of the Baghavad gita. I think you'll find that one interesting.
I've always viewed that Rule of Two as a liability indicative of this fear of losing power. If one follows the Rule of Two to its logical conclusion, it irrefutably and inevitably leads to each successive generation of master and apprentice being weaker than its predecessor because if the ideology is that there is one master to possess the power and one apprentice to crave that power until such a time as the apprentice usurps the master's place, the master is naturally incentivized to withhold a measure of knowledge from the apprentice. This is, in my view, the underlying weakness of the doctrine. Of course, it's not as if the Rule of Two was strictly followed.
Palpatine manipulated the dreams of Anakin over losing his secret wife Padme Amidala. Because the Jedi believe that love leads to darkness in attachments, Palpatine was the only outlet for him to communicate his feeling too. Stating that the Sith had the ability to save his wife and grant immortality, he worked the concerns of Anakin into his cause for power. The want to gain power for saving his wife would led Anakin to fear losing it and lead him to Sidious.
To a Sith there is no middle ground. For they a Sith is a dictator that run by the loyalty of power. Fear being the core to their power. If one were to show trust or relax, they would been seen as vulnerable. It is the cost to ultimate power.
I look at the force like a big blanket. It covers the light and the dark. If theirs 2 they divide the power between them. The sith rule of two. When the Jedi only had 2 or one like Rey she had the full power of the light. The flaw in this theory is unknown force users. So if Anakin embraced both the light and Dark he would have defeated all of them.
The fear of losing power is greater in the Sith than it is in the Jedi. Consider this maxim by Darth Sidious: Jedi seek to gain power through understanding. Sith seek understanding through power. If power is the means to understanding, then it logically follows that the loss of power equates to the loss of understanding. A very terrifying thought for most people. But if understanding is the mechanism through which power is obtained, then less understanding will equate to less power. Ironically, it was for this reason that the Jedi order fell. They did not understand their enemy, so they did not have power to fight them. Therefore, they fell. This is why I thank God that He holds all wisdom and power. We can look to His understanding when things don’t make any sense, and trust in His power to always do right.
your basic premise seems logical but the end does not, that assume there is a god and that he is wise or even worthy to trust, your first point explains their differences but offers no answers to the problems both force orders face or that we our selves face.
When I refer to God, I am referring to God in the Bible. The creator of heaven and earth, as such the most knowledgeable person about it, and everything in it, including us. If the Bible is true, then it’s characterization of God is true. And we could have an entirely different discussion on the veracity of scripture, but I do believe it to be true, based on good historical and archaeological evidence. Thus, gods, characterization in it is also true. He has said that He is faithful (1 Corinthians 1:9). Regarding the wisdom of God, read Job chapters 38-41. It’s an in-depth examination of the power and knowledge of God in creation. Dealing with the Force orders, we’ll start with the Jedi. Assuming that Sidious’s maxim is true, then the line that says, “ There is no ignorance, there is knowledge” essentially self sabotages the Order. This is one of my major criticisms between the old code, and the modern code. Where the old code acknowledges that ignorance exists and knowledge must be pursued, the modern code, denies ignorance, and assumes that knowledge is already had. It is as if the Jedi is expected to go into the broader galaxy, knowing everything. But they cannot, and the code will not allow them to admit that they do not. I think the way they can fix it is by going back to the old code where they acknowledged that life is a journey, full of contradictory ideas but with a greater objective of pursuing truth. The Sith operate in a cell contradiction. If understanding comes through power, then that power must be obtained through some level of understanding. It does not come from nowhere. Those are contradictory premises. I think the Sith need a new code to be honest.
@@Breakdowns04 Jedi seem like a flaw in their reasoning or a semantic failing we do not know if the language of the Jedi teaching was always writing in space English? the sith is an antithesis to the Jedi thus it is flawed by just being the opposite secondly being driven by passion does tend to mean one does not think things through. good in an accordance with its own text is cable of deceiving its prophets what with telling a guy to kill his son on a hill and then stating otherwise a reality warping lier is not my first choice for a moral exemplar on a good day and given its inability to describe heaven properly not explain it grand plan in a way that does not sound insane I am not inclined to trust it or serve it.
Palpatine: high voltage energy spires! Vader: ahh... I mean... what?! Palpatine: you know the ones in planetary sized artificial structures! Very rare I know, but if somehow, for some reason I found myself near one and was thrown into one by some exceptionally strong person that can resist my lightnigh long enough, well that might kill me... I think thats it. Nothing short of that will do it. Vader: ahhh... I see..... Palpatine: and hell, I might still survive that heheheh Vader: .....
To have enough you truly are rich. Those who always reach for power never have enough so one would have to stop reaching for people because the power is with the people and give up the power. To give up everything in order to gain everything. Say "everything is positive and necessary" there for having a fearless approach at most 6 months at least 3 months. Thank you.
I think the Rule of Two and The Roman Empire had the best solution to this fear of loosing power, have a apprentice or Caesar that you trust and trained for a while and then peacefully pass it down to them. If any of you know the traditional way The Roman Emperors passed down their power before The Crisis of the Third Century and beyond, you'll know what I'm talking about here.
I would rather be a Dark Jedi bounty hunter instead of the Sith Lord or Master. Yes the Sith are powerful. Betrayal is always around the corner, Except Maul and Savage for some reason.
Probably because Maul and Savage were brothers 🤔. Maul did genuinely care about his brother, and was mournful to his death, and their mother, Mother Talzin who was slain permanently by Sidious, Tyranus/Dooku (whom she possessed for a short time) and General Grievous 🥺😣😔.
@@demetriuzz I don't know 🤷♂️. Maybe it could have been _slightly_ *different,* had Sidious not shown up himself to try and remove a rival from his equation 😓😔.
🤔 That should not be a weakness for the Jedi because they shouldn't be seeking external power in the first place. ... Whether it comes or goes it should be irrelevant to a truly committed Jedi. Unless I'm mistaken on that? ... I do understand the purpose of why Palps said it to Anakin though. ... Just see it as manipulation & nothing more.
@@OldHenryLee no It goes "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". But I just shorten it to power corrupts. The only questions are how much and how fast. People of good character corrupt more slowly but it still corrupts them. And for people who have less than good character they corrupt faster. I've seen it in real life with people I've known who became police officers. And even when thoroughly corrupted they still believe they are the good guys.
@@OldHenryLee all power corrupts and it always does. With good people it only corrupts in small usually harmless ways unless they have power for a very long time. But it ALWAYS corrupts.
I think the Jedi are better through the eyes of Luke Skywalker a man how was truly incorruptible and the sith palatine is corruption and if you can't be corrupted and do not want power like the sith that is what makes you a sith or Jedi plane a simple
The cure is to never see it as power and that is what he never understood about the Jedi and why he feared Qui-Gon Jinn more then most. Qui-Gon Jinn acted as the will of the force and not as the rules itself. He allowed the force to guide his decisions. That is how you get over it but not seeing yourself as having power be seeing that you are just a vessel of the force itself.
Considering what happened to him, it seems he should have been a bit more cautious at least.
And really, trusting the force is in itself not necessarily a good idea, the force does not seem to give a damn about individuals or their lives. Oh sure, you get to come back as a force ghost if you were one with it, who is barely able to affect anything, yay.
@@_Muzolf Maybe that was just the will of the force as he would be needed to train Obi wan and he started Luke's training plus protected him his whole life allow him to train under Yoda and turn his father to bring the chosen one to do what he was intended to. So yeah I think it worked out just fine for him as he saw more then himself. He saw what the living force showed him and he was a very large peace in a great plan to return balance to the galaxy so yeah.
@@kitfo18 Ultimately that hinges on parts of his life that we did not get to see. I would most certainly not place much faith in the force considering what happened to him and what his legacy was. Its all nice and dandy that the Sith got overthrown by the end, but if you were to ask the people of Alderaan if the particular events that lead up to that point were really worth it, i think they might have a different take on it.
@@_Muzolf But we did see it. The end of the Obi wan series showed us him starting to teach Obi wan and things like rebels and other shows went far more into it plus you have cannon novels so yes it has been well gone over if you looked beyond the movies at nothing but other cannon sources.
@@kitfo18 I was thinking more about his life before he got killed.
There's a reason the baneite sith didn't pursue immortality (with Bane as a notable exception to buy time) until Plagius. They knew that the power must not rest with an individual but must be passed one to the next so the grand design could be advanced by those still hungry, ambituous, and capable of expanding it.
Yes, immortality could lead to stagnation.
Yup, bane only sought it for practical reasons and not to actually live forever
The Rule of Two.
@@99thJediWarrior the rule of SMD
A comfortable Old age leads to complacency
I’m reading Path of Destruction rn and early in, Bane also draws parallels between the similarities of the Sith and the Republic (led by the Jedi). Bane was critical about how the Jedi protected the Core worlds much more than the Outer rim. The people left out to dry in the Outer Rim were easy recruits for the Brotherhood of Darkness because they had nothing to lose, and the power of the dark side to gain.
I am reading Darth Bane: Dynasty of Evil right now. I love that Andedu came in the video because he will have a part in the story.
I loved the bane trilogy book.
And banes assessment that you mentioned is true. It's one are the main weaknesses of both the Jedi order and Republic. Typically they don't care about the about the outer rim
To be fair, there are only couple thousands of Jedi in the whole galaxy. There is simply not enough of them to manage every planet, which varies in size to from big worlds to small worlds which apparently are big as a city (sense of scale in SW is really inconsistent). If every world was as big as Earth, there is no way Jedi can be everyone. They would have to rely on whatever government and police force is in place and they are forbidden to just strongarm everybody Sith style. It's also not like Palpatine's humanocentric Empire did a better job managing mostly alien Outer Rim, which also formed most of Confederacy. :P They mostly pacified them with brutal force and intimidation.
I suppose Darth Vectivis might be in the middle
A Sith lord who did no evil and was only interested in power through means being a scholar, not a ruler or even master ⚖️
He was the only sith who died happily having a loving family and friends around him
Personally, I would say Palpatine struck the ballance when he scheming in the shadows. There where no need to fear losing his power, because nobody knew of it.
I think there is a middle ground, though it’s probably easier said than done. But for sure the important thing is to simply accept that some things won’t always be in your control. You can’t always guarantee that your apprentices or followers will always remain loyal, and you can’t guarantee that you’ll be safe forever. Of course, acceptance is not a Sith strength
Courage is the word.
Courage is not the absence of fear.
Courage is the mastery of fear.
With courage you may find this middleground as a sith Master.
IT'S UNFAIR
HOW CAN YOU BE A JEDI AND HAVE MILLIONS OF WEAKNESSES
That's life
I don’t like sand
@@Nikki-bo8uu take a seat young nikki lol
And..it's almost never unfair in your favor
The wise spot is ironically in the final line of the Jedi Code. There is no death, there is the Force.
The fear of death, of losing power, would always cripple the Sith. Bane's Rule of Two was so wise because he recognized that death would always come, there would always be an end. The Rule of Two would always bring an end to one, so the remaining Survivor would logically always be the stronger of the two, and so the Sith would always grow in strength while the numbers remained the same.
It was ultimately Sidious, who disregarded the Rule of Two and decided it ended with him, who caused the downfall of the Sith. He crippled Vader so Vader could never rise and overthrow him, thus locking the Sith in a stagnant state where they would eventually be defeated.
Why strive for something that can be taken away? Be happy with what you have and can control. Ambition only makes you want more, just like Power The more you work the more you miss out on the important things.
For the Sith there is no middle ground. Their whole system is based on killing the one before you. The Sith philosophy is self destructive.
I see it as a duel edge sword.
All Sith were afraid to lose the power they tried so hard to obtain.
But those that were true Sith loyal to the rule of 2 acknowledged the importance of the survival of the Sith & accepted the almost inevitable possibility that one day their apprentice would surpass them.
In a fucked up way, Bane instituted an ideal that was actually a thoughtful will of fire for the future. & like all fire there must be something to consume for the fire to continue burning.
It was a necessary evil. There was a time when there were more Sith, and they spent more time fighting each other than the Jedi. It was the constant power grab. The Rule of Two ensured that one acknowledged subservience to another, and their power would be gradual and unnoticed. They made the Jedi believe they were dead for years, and used patience the Jedi Order forgot long ago. The self-destructiveness came from the abuse of the Force and a lack of discipline.
There is no middle ground but the high ground is a bitch
I think the middle ground comes down to a risk-reward mentality. so long as the power you wield can minimize the risks of losing it, it is necessary to push your power and continue to try to expand, if only to further reduce the risks you face. but if the risk of losing what you already have cannot be offset by the power you have, if there is no way to further develop your strength without risking it all on pure chance, then you have hit your limit and it is time to pass on your knowledge and power to someone who can carry it forward
Holy moly I wasn't expecting all that cool merch at the end of the video, think I might have to buy some now, awesome looking designs!!
Just because you’re paranoid / doesn’t mean they’re not after you. - K.Cobain
There is no middle ground. Power can only be preserved if shared. When individuals start hoarding power, they fail. This is an error the Sith and Jedi make, over and over.
Both believe that only they are wise enough to have power.
Force Sensitivity isn't really something you can "share". It makes sense for people born with it (i.e. Palatine) to have a sense of superiority.
Power is toole not an end in it self. A true jedi do not put mutch value in it and is as happy on coraban as on dagoba. As power brings responsibility it might even be a relief not having to much of it.
And yet Anikan defeated Sidious by forgiving himself and his love for his son. The strength from within that Sidious doesn't have.
I think Grand Admiral Thrawn actually understands this middle ground the best. He is prepared to risk when necessary to make bold decisions but he will also retreat such as at the Sluis Van Shipyards in heir to the Empire. But this quote from "The last command" really shows that he does not have the same weakness the Sith and Jedi share. Joruus C'baoth responds to a question by Thrawn asking if he sees the rise of a new empire without Thrawn leading the Empire. (C'Baoth had just tried to take the Chimaera by Force using his jedi powers).
"I see many possible futures," C'baoth said. "In not all of them do you survive." "An uncertainty faced by all warriors," Thrawn nodded. It would be impossible to see a character like Thrawn hide away looking to protect his power. Even after defeating the new Republic Thrawn would have prepared his new Empire to meet the threat of the Vong and any future threats, fully accepting that defeat is something he will most likely one day taste.
He did have a cloning facility with a copy of himself growing though
@@seanhewitt603 Well so did Palpatine and he was still shit scared of Luke Skywalker becoming a Jedi and destroying him. Thrawns clone was for the more practical purpose of continuing his mission to protect the galaxy from the Yuuzon Vong. Of course the clone was killed thanks to Luke and Mara's intervention so it never even woke up.
Our only weakness Anakin. If you throw Sith down a giant shift of a fully operational super weapon, we die Anakin. Shhh, don't tell anybody. If you do, I might have to clone myself somehow.^_^
This is strong case for Palpatine. He said the truth. All who gain power are afraid to loose it, I agree. This is their flaw. And the Jedi. They need to practice to live without that feeling. May the Force be with you too. Have a great day too :)
What Palpatine said was true, but it's also a lie. This shows in the original trilogy where Obi-Wan and Yoda had accepted the fact that they lost their power and still passed on their knowledge to Luke. On the other hand Palpatine continued to concoct more ways of acquiring more power for himself without passing anything on to Vader.
@@decepticonxhunter4850true. That's true
It is only human nature to strive for power and to fear losing it .
The greatest weakness of the Sith
The fear of losing power
Yoda said " Train yourself to let go of what you fear to loose." So Yoda knew how to solve the equation, but he was still fearful of what he, and the Jedi Council couldn’t see through the force as a threat. Yoda had no idea that if he couldn’t see what was there, then he should’ve looked at what was not there. What wasn’t there was balance in the force. If so then it would have to have been the "Dark Side" as the sole motivation for the war on both sides. The simple motive & opportunity should’ve led them to the question: why involve the order. A Sith was killed (Maul) there has to be another……….. etc, etc
I'm not convinced this is a common weakness of the Jedi and the Sith, The Jedi were never fearful of being betrayed like the Sith and actively shared their knowledge with others in the hope that others would be better than they were. This is definitely a Sith weakness though and maybe why Sidious was the best, because he overcame that weakness more than any other Sith ever did. Even in his final moments alive, all Sidious thought of was how he was going to get revenge.
The implementation and practice of the Rule of Two is the fear of losing power. Having only two Sith lord reduces the chance of a powerful Sith lord being killed by less powerful ones. To ascend to masterhood an apprentice must accumulate enough power to be able to kill their master. The master on the other hand, must constantly seek to become more powerful so as to not be easily killed by their apprentice. To this even masters have almost routinely withheld some secrets and knowledge from their apprentices. To answer your question this actually where the Sith and the Jedi differ. The jedi are not afraid to share their power and eagerly seek to increase their ranks rather than horde power between only the two most powerful. They view themselves as part of the force rather than masters of it as the Sith do. For the most part jedi are able to accept and embrace the limits of their abilities and strength in the Force. Where so many have fallen to the dark side is the lustful desire for more power and ability than they already have.
When Palpatine was speaking about the tragedy of Plageus the Wise, he mentioned that it wasn't a tale that the Jedi would tell. Did the Jedi even know about Plageus while he was still alive during the prequels (I hope that I'm getting the timeline correct)? If not, then who was the last sith lord they knew about before the Phantom Menace?
I don't know but Yoda knew Darth bane. 🤨
Easy barely a inconvenience, one important Jedi said "there's always a bigger fish".
Learn to live in the moment and enjoy what you have when you have it. Don’t grow stagnant, but don’t over reach either. His goes back to Qui Gon telling Obi Wan to be mindful of the future, but not at the expense of the moment.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS
ITS UNFAIR!
It's unFAIR!
Good.... I can feel your anger!
@@jasonjohnson6938 lmaooo 😂😂😂😂
ORDER 66
*DEW IT.*
GOOOOD
I feel like this is sort of at odds with the Palpatine we know. He's so overconfident that his power is absolute, that he doesn't think the Rebels would be able to destory the second Deathstar. He also doesn't realize that his hold over Vader wasn't in jeopardy when he was attacking Luke with lightening. So are you saying that he learned from the other Sith and wasn't vulnerable to fear and paranoia?
I’m confused what are saying with Luke and Vader cuz u wrote a double negative
I believe that the two words that strike the balance are trust in the goodness of God (the Force in the case of the Star Wars galaxy) and humility to realize that mortal beings can never be God (or, again, the Force).
The first step to not losing the power you've accumulated...
Don't write it down.
Second step- play down your strength. Beat every enemy by only as much as is necessary. When people fear you, they will always eventually turn on you.
Classic art of war stuff... Rather than Machiavelli.
Sith fear losing their personal power, while Jedi fear losing power they have over others. Well, with Jedi, they fear chaos and war that could start, if they don't prevent it etc. So it could be called influence, stability of galaxy etc., and not power, but it's type of power. I just watched video about code of original Jedi order, before they divided into Sith and Jedi. There was big focus on one line. There is no fear, there is power. Not being able to follow this philosophy was reason, why Sith and Jedi we know were created and it's make sense, that it's fear of losing power, that is their common weakness. It was what created them.
Basically, as Original Jedi because involvement in conflict, they started to feel more and more fear, that leads them to fall fully into dark side. Other original Jedi saw it and started fear dark side, so they forbidden it.
This weakness is shared in our current state of affairs in both the political and corporate world.
Also, I had no idea about this in both the sith and the jedi.
Thank you
And I quote your over confidence is your weakness , your faith in your friends is yours
The hardest thing to do is stop seeking more power. Once one starts, it's almost impossible to stop seeking more power.
Sand ? Chocolate ice cream?
Ok, this one my Deceased friend theorized about, where if an Jedi or Sith warrior were to crash on the four Nations multiverse earth , they’d be truly foolish to challenge those tied to the avatar cycle itself here’s why:
As this reference from the RoTS notes Jedi and Sith fear losing power…which means if they confronted that worlds master of the four elements, due to their ability to cause an element bender to be locked / taken away from them, my deceased friend theorized that if like with that dimensions Firelord when defeated, any Jedi or Sith who dared attack him, not realizing that he has that ability, could be having their force Abilities become locked / inaccessible by challenging them to battle or to foolishly fight him seeing them as an threat , which my deceased friend theorized while highly unlikely, it’s an interesting thought to consider, due to Palpatine leaking that key factoid of Sith/ Jedi hidden weaknesses ( ie. an Hypothetical ATLA crossover scenario ponderence he had thought about as an hypothetical what if scenario)!?!?
YouWillNotTakeHerFromMe!
The only true cure of this fear is to cut themselves of from the Force for good period of time then contect to it, teach them not to conestly rely on the Force while still remembering to turst it
KOTORII?
Darth Traya was only a third right that Force-user were stronger without the Force, they are stronger if they don’t overly rely on it like the Sith and Jedi. Without the Force they were weaker but they need to hit the bottom in order rise back up. Traya hated the Force so much she did not see the flews of not completely rebuild one’s own abilities and faith in it
Exar kun was born with the dark side of the force in him and vitiate was born evil since birth papaltine isn't the only one
Did the emperor and Vader ever take in an opera or ballet together again during the time of the empire?
Sidious can say the jedi have the same weakness but this isn't the truth.
In the clone wars, for example, if the jedi had won the war sonner, they should return to their normal duties.
The maximum proof of that is the clome armies: they know that the jedi didn't have the numbee to win the war.
Anakin just believed in that argument because he was already misthrusting the council of not telling him all the truth about...
What was real, but the council judge that anakin wasn't mature enough to held the information....what was true too
I think what Palpatine said about the Jedi "Every body feels fear of losing power, even a Jedi" is half-true. The Jedi might really feel fear of losing power, but I believe is the power of helping other. If they lose this power, than they cannot help others and serve their purpose. The Sith, on the other hand, fear losing power and being useful for themselves or their own gain.
The other part on believing in your apprentice, I think you should believe on them and their capacity to follow their own path. If this mean helping you out on their way, than it is better for you, but don't fully rely on this chance, because you still need to keep doing your stuff.
There shouldn’t be too much light or too much dark there should just be balance and something in between light and dark I don’t quite know what to call it but you get the point
This reminds me of when treya said that one does not need the force to be powerful
Their only weakness is when someone blocks their Sith lightning with a lightsaber.
accept, and to walk with a double-edged sword at all times
The wise middle ground is to accept your own mortality and not seek power only for yourself, but make the whole world better.
That is what the Jedi did, even at their most corrupt.
Palpatin meeting Kreia would be interesting. He would be very weak without the force. Her plan to destroy would be something that would make him Work with the jedi for both would fear that the most.
Are you kidding? He destroyed 99% of the Jedi without a single force power.
If you tell more than one they will have to kill the others to know only one know it which gives you time to escape that one or deal with that one
Good video, but once again you used The Dark Wanderer from Blizzard's DiabloII: Resurrected when talking about the God-King of Prakkith.
Your own self-confidence would come into play here. Your confidence has to keep up to the same level of your power. In fact, that is the solution. If you begin to have doubts, this will (in a way) have an adverse effect on your power. Palpatine & Vader are exemplary subjects to, perhaps, prove this. In a novel, I have just "consumed" (freakin' awesome novel!) there was a scene where Vader & "The Old Man" were being attacked by Lyleks, the apex Indigenous predators of Ryloth. They were outnumbered by like 1000:1 (estimate). Trapped in the nest with no way out, Vader stated "We're going to kill them all" and Palps just "cackled" and _they_ did kill them all. To, essentially, anyone else this was a "no win" scenario. Even Vader & Palpatine should have felt even a _hint_ of doubt, but their confidence was so equal to their power that the thought of losing wasn't even considered! Palpatine (at least to my knowledge) never let his confidence drop below his power (plus he was wise to the "weakness") and was technically unstoppable. On the flipside, Obi-wan, on Tatooine, (from that rotten tv series) faced Vader for the first time since the "epic showdown" and he sucked. You can argue that he lapsed in "keeping in shape", but the power was all still there regardless. What was gone almost entirely was his confidence and the effect on his power was blatent and obvious. So, to conclude, I believe confidence _must_ be equal in quantity to the power that you wield. It would take someone with superhuman disapline to maintain this balancing act because a little too much or not quite enough is where yer gonna run N hide like that Skeleton guy in the vid and become useless. \m/
"Our one weakness is fearing losing our power, Anakin.....and being throw down open shaft....."
Unrelated but could a sith or someone bleed the dark saber ?
The only weakness of a Sith is they're apprentice
Power corrupts. ultimate Power corrupts ultimately. Those who seek power and control may achieve it. But most Men will be afraid to lose it. Being afraid to lose the power you gain is the Hight of selfishness, and you will soon fail.
I Don’t Like Sand
LIAR
LOL at 5:54 they use art from a mtg card - Phylactery Lich
I havent watched your whole video yet but my theory is that the dark side is ultimately flawed and self defeating by design. You see there is an escalation in their power and evil up until Darth Plagueis who tries to do things different and is killed by his apprentice, who was not as talented or as knowledable as he was. You can see that Palpatines ambition is the ultimate downfall of the sith as ultimate evil is incapable of attaining ultimate power due to its own nature being a cancer of the force or rather a cleansing fire. From my perspective the power of the sith grows when the Jedi or lightsiders themselves become corrupt/degenerate and the sith rise in order to cleanse the corruption but ultimately they burn out as well. That is the nature of the force in that the dark side is just a correcting mechanism and can never be an end in itself. Therefore basically all of Palpatines philosophizing is only useful in the sense that he deludes himself in order to fulfill his own purpose. The Siths goal in and of itself of physical immortality is not possible and is basically the force itself subtly trolling them with a carrot on a stick while the Jedi path to immortality in joining the force itself is the only true path to enlightenment. The dead end of the Dark side is once you attain the ultimate knowledge you realize that you have to turn back on evil/depravity but at that time you are going to get killed by your apprentice who is more evil than you are. Its the analogy from the phantom menace "There's always a bigger fish."
Andeddu was NOT the Sith that “discovered” essence transfer. Tulak Hord was. He lived after Hord. Hord lived roughly during or just after the first thousand years of the true Sith empire; roughly around from 6,000BBY, five or take a century or two either way.. He and Alloysius Kallig both stated to have died “well before 5,600BBY.. Andeddu lived long after him. We don’t exactly know when he lived either, but it was after Hord that is for sure. But either way, Hord is the one who first discovered it in the timeline. But he still fits what you’re saying here regardless; literally sealing himself within his own damn tomb so nobody would “steal his precious scrolls & knowledge” , he was the definition of the fear of losing power.
If you are certain the Force is with you and not your rivals, no worries.
Easy. God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Star Wars doesn't have this quote, that's Jedi & Sith are scared to lose power
The Jedi already have a strategy to counteract this weakness, and that is to try to not be attached to things. It has a lot of drawbacks of course, but it is a direct counter to the weakness you speak of.
A lot of drawbacks? That’s putting it lightly. It lead to the ultimate weakness of the Jedi: Their denial of emotion
@@ianjessop7336 Exactly!! 🎯🎯🎯🎯
I have to ultimately and totally agree with Ian!! This is why the Jedi were losing and lost. I love the fact they’re going to take it back to the ORIGINS of the Jedi because that WASN’T their way in actuality. The Jedi have to find their way back to how to truly balance ALL emotions.
This is the way
@@ianjessop7336 The Jedi were about mastering one's emotions, not ridding themselves of it. There's a difference.
@@ianjessop7336no their weakness was being a part of the republic which had a lot of power
I've never understood the attraction to power beyond living a comfortable and happy life. If you want to rule the Galaxy, imagine how much actual work that takes. How many decisions you'd have to approve every day, every hour. Constantly fearing for your life and yes becoming paranoid of losing power because you've just painted a large target on your back.
This is an all-too human weakness, one shared by every narcissist, despot and billionaire in Earth's history. The fear of death, betrayal and loss haunts even the meekest of us, hence why the Jedi are not immune to it either.
I think the movies DO show the solution though, and at least six Force users have demonstrated it; Qui Gon, Obi Wan, Yoda, Anakin, Luke and Leia. The one common thing between them? They accepted their "deaths" and ascended to Force Ghosts. They all knew, at least in their reality, "no one is truly gone." That "loss" is not REALLY "loss." It's just change. They embraced the change and their own sacrifice so that future generations could achieve what they could not. Some call it "killing the ego" or "enlightenment." I'm not exactly a "spiritual" person but I do really find the philosophy of such things intriguing in fiction.
I think the answer is in Roman emperor Marcus Aurelius' life and beliefs and philosphy. He is the shining example of how to wield ultimate power with no apparent weakness. He cared less about things that didn't matter and not wise to worry about - things like the future in which we have no true control. He only cared about what truly matters- the present and also how we react to things happening around us (the only thing we can truly control). These Sith Lords cared too much about what may happen in the future that it negatively impacted them in the present which cut short their potential. Sure, these Sith Lords will die being assassinated by their followers but that is the nature of their culture. They should learn to accept that fact. I'm not saying they should take no action against those who want to kill them, but instead learn to understand the nature of their being/culture in that they will be targeted to be killed and learn accept that fact (what will be will be). In other words, stoicism.
Acceptance. I think that's also a cornerstone of not only stoicism, but most religions and philosophical traditions. Google a summary of the Baghavad gita. I think you'll find that one interesting.
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Ooltimate Cuulmination
There is no middle ground... only the high ground... don't slip on your way up
Was all Sith Lords taken out by their apprentice? Is their a Sith Lord and apprentice who stayed loyal til either one of their deaths?
...train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.
I've always viewed that Rule of Two as a liability indicative of this fear of losing power. If one follows the Rule of Two to its logical conclusion, it irrefutably and inevitably leads to each successive generation of master and apprentice being weaker than its predecessor because if the ideology is that there is one master to possess the power and one apprentice to crave that power until such a time as the apprentice usurps the master's place, the master is naturally incentivized to withhold a measure of knowledge from the apprentice. This is, in my view, the underlying weakness of the doctrine.
Of course, it's not as if the Rule of Two was strictly followed.
Palpatine manipulated the dreams of Anakin over losing his secret wife Padme Amidala. Because the Jedi believe that love leads to darkness in attachments, Palpatine was the only outlet for him to communicate his feeling too. Stating that the Sith had the ability to save his wife and grant immortality, he worked the concerns of Anakin into his cause for power. The want to gain power for saving his wife would led Anakin to fear losing it and lead him to Sidious.
that fear though, comes from Hubric, IMHO
Their one weakness is kittens. I never would have guessed.
@@shaydowsith348 nice! Now I can kick off anyone I don't like.
To a Sith there is no middle ground. For they a Sith is a dictator that run by the loyalty of power. Fear being the core to their power. If one were to show trust or relax, they would been seen as vulnerable. It is the cost to ultimate power.
WHAT
I look at the force like a big blanket. It covers the light and the dark. If theirs 2 they divide the power between them. The sith rule of two. When the Jedi only had 2 or one like Rey she had the full power of the light. The flaw in this theory is unknown force users. So if Anakin embraced both the light and Dark he would have defeated all of them.
The fear of losing power is greater in the Sith than it is in the Jedi. Consider this maxim by Darth Sidious: Jedi seek to gain power through understanding. Sith seek understanding through power. If power is the means to understanding, then it logically follows that the loss of power equates to the loss of understanding. A very terrifying thought for most people. But if understanding is the mechanism through which power is obtained, then less understanding will equate to less power. Ironically, it was for this reason that the Jedi order fell. They did not understand their enemy, so they did not have power to fight them. Therefore, they fell. This is why I thank God that He holds all wisdom and power. We can look to His understanding when things don’t make any sense, and trust in His power to always do right.
your basic premise seems logical but the end does not, that assume there is a god and that he is wise or even worthy to trust, your first point explains their differences but offers no answers to the problems both force orders face or that we our selves face.
When I refer to God, I am referring to God in the Bible. The creator of heaven and earth, as such the most knowledgeable person about it, and everything in it, including us. If the Bible is true, then it’s characterization of God is true. And we could have an entirely different discussion on the veracity of scripture, but I do believe it to be true, based on good historical and archaeological evidence. Thus, gods, characterization in it is also true. He has said that He is faithful (1 Corinthians 1:9). Regarding the wisdom of God, read Job chapters 38-41. It’s an in-depth examination of the power and knowledge of God in creation.
Dealing with the Force orders, we’ll start with the Jedi. Assuming that Sidious’s maxim is true, then the line that says, “ There is no ignorance, there is knowledge” essentially self sabotages the Order. This is one of my major criticisms between the old code, and the modern code. Where the old code acknowledges that ignorance exists and knowledge must be pursued, the modern code, denies ignorance, and assumes that knowledge is already had. It is as if the Jedi is expected to go into the broader galaxy, knowing everything. But they cannot, and the code will not allow them to admit that they do not. I think the way they can fix it is by going back to the old code where they acknowledged that life is a journey, full of contradictory ideas but with a greater objective of pursuing truth.
The Sith operate in a cell contradiction. If understanding comes through power, then that power must be obtained through some level of understanding. It does not come from nowhere. Those are contradictory premises. I think the Sith need a new code to be honest.
@@Breakdowns04 Jedi seem like a flaw in their reasoning or a semantic failing we do not know if the language of the Jedi teaching was always writing in space English?
the sith is an antithesis to the Jedi thus it is flawed by just being the opposite secondly being driven by passion does tend to mean one does not think things through.
good in an accordance with its own text is cable of deceiving its prophets what with telling a guy to kill his son on a hill and then stating otherwise a reality warping lier is not my first choice for a moral exemplar on a good day and given its inability to describe heaven properly not explain it grand plan in a way that does not sound insane I am not inclined to trust it or serve it.
Andeddu was also the crux of how Tenebrea/viciate/volkiron and later palpatine twice lived
Palpatine: high voltage energy spires!
Vader: ahh... I mean... what?!
Palpatine: you know the ones in planetary sized artificial structures! Very rare I know, but if somehow, for some reason I found myself near one and was thrown into one by some exceptionally strong person that can resist my lightnigh long enough, well that might kill me... I think thats it. Nothing short of that will do it.
Vader: ahhh... I see.....
Palpatine: and hell, I might still survive that heheheh
Vader: .....
This disproves the validity of the entire Sith mindset. If passion is fuel, fear should just be more fuel. If not so, the Sith are a fraud
To have enough you truly are rich. Those who always reach for power never have enough so one would have to stop reaching for people because the power is with the people and give up the power. To give up everything in order to gain everything. Say "everything is positive and necessary" there for having a fearless approach at most 6 months at least 3 months. Thank you.
Palpatine is a true master baiter
Amazing
Power is not claimed. It is bestowed upon one from followers...ala... heroes do not choose time; time chooses heroes.
My dude I generally like your videos but wtf with the stock image from the D2R title screen??? 😂
Interesting video
I think the Rule of Two and The Roman Empire had the best solution to this fear of loosing power, have a apprentice or Caesar that you trust and trained for a while and then peacefully pass it down to them.
If any of you know the traditional way The Roman Emperors passed down their power before The Crisis of the Third Century and beyond, you'll know what I'm talking about here.
Bullets .. my only weakness
I would rather be a Dark Jedi bounty hunter instead of the Sith Lord or Master. Yes the Sith are powerful. Betrayal is always around the corner, Except Maul and Savage for some reason.
Probably because Maul and Savage were brothers 🤔. Maul did genuinely care about his brother, and was mournful to his death, and their mother, Mother Talzin who was slain permanently by Sidious, Tyranus/Dooku (whom she possessed for a short time) and General Grievous 🥺😣😔.
I think maul and savage would have eventually turned on each other despite being brothers.
@@demetriuzz I don't know 🤷♂️. Maybe it could have been _slightly_ *different,* had Sidious not shown up himself to try and remove a rival from his equation 😓😔.
Not true, maul had to put savage in place. It would hav happened again.
@@greattribulation1388 it happened _once_ , doesn't mean that it would've happened again 😓.
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🤔 That should not be a weakness for the Jedi because they shouldn't be seeking external power in the first place. ... Whether it comes or goes it should be irrelevant to a truly committed Jedi.
Unless I'm mistaken on that?
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I do understand the purpose of why Palps said it to Anakin though. ... Just see it as manipulation & nothing more.
It's a weakness for everyone. Power corrupts. Period.
@@markcarpenter6020 "Absolute" power corrupts absolutely - is how that one goes.
LoL, .... period
@@OldHenryLee no It goes "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". But I just shorten it to power corrupts. The only questions are how much and how fast. People of good character corrupt more slowly but it still corrupts them. And for people who have less than good character they corrupt faster. I've seen it in real life with people I've known who became police officers. And even when thoroughly corrupted they still believe they are the good guys.
@@markcarpenter6020 You're completely missing the point. ... Any type of power CAN corrupt. That doesn't mean it does.
@@OldHenryLee all power corrupts and it always does. With good people it only corrupts in small usually harmless ways unless they have power for a very long time. But it ALWAYS corrupts.
The greatest weakness of the Sith is the script. “Crap! It says we have to lose! That sucks!”
I think the Jedi are better through the eyes of Luke Skywalker a man how was truly incorruptible and the sith palatine is corruption and if you can't be corrupted and do not want power like the sith that is what makes you a sith or Jedi plane a simple
Sand the answer is sand!
I liked the inclusion of the diablo 2 cover art