Great video, thanks man! Two questions- 1. Have you noticed any change to fuel consumption? 2. Any issues with durability to the belt or rollers? The forums have me torn. There’s obviously no contest in terms of performance for the Polini 🛵💨
Hey! Thanks a lot for the comment and the support! Appreciate you! Great questions! 1: I haven’t noticed that much in fuel consumption, to be honest, it would be really hard to tell, but I did notice a difference when swapping a performance exhaust in compared with the stock one, I have never liked the stock exhaust tho but that is what I would use with my eyes closed if I were going on a long adventure, is way more reliable than any other exhaust in the market. I personally think, that if you're looking for reliability and better MPG, OEM parts are going to be your best friends, performances parts are intended for hight intensity and they are not design for longevity. 2: This is a very good question and a very important one! I haven’t personally measured anything with accuracy to be able to say something solid about it, but from my personal experience, I have put already over 17,000 miles on the MAXI HI•SPEED Variator and I have changed my belt and rollers already three times every 8k-9k miles (I used the 9 Polini rollers of 9,2g with the Piaggio OEM belt), I been tempted to try the POLINI belt but I think the Piaggio one last way longer than any other aftermarket belt, Both belts have been removed after riding them for over 8k miles and shows slightly sign of wear and small cracks but nothing to worry about it, I think I would try to go over 10k on my next one lol, even tho Piaggio recommends changing your rollers every 3k miles and the belt every 6k miles, I do both at 8k-9k and haven’t noticed anything wrong with it, In the other hand, a couple months ago I installed the S.I.P Drive Pulley, The Polini MAXI Speed Clutch & The Speed Bell, and man!! What an improvement!! Video is coming very soon! Can't wait to share it with y’all! Peace✌
Wow, thanks for the information! I just purchased a used 2015 GTS with a little belt slap. I figured I might as well upgrade if I’m going to open the transmission anyhow. After reading this I feel more confident installing the Polini! Probably going to get an exhaust too. Maybe Arrow? Not sure yet. Can’t wait to see the other parts in action!! 👀
@@beehauss My pleasure! That's awesome! Congratulations! what color did you got? Well, in my personal opinion, every time I get an used Vespa, (depending on the milage) the first thing I do before putting some serious miles on it, is: Oil change, gearbox oil change, belt, rollers, sliders and inspect the clutch, bearing, seals and all the transmission components as well as cleaning them all and everything inside the CVT cover, so you make sure everything is nice and running so you can start to keep track of your services more accurately, because you never know when was the last time the bike was truly serviced the right way! if you're going to go over all theses things I recommend you watching this video: ►► FULL Detailed Service - Vespa GT/GTS/GTV ua-cam.com/video/rSkZk_oYBs4/v-deo.html Peace!✌
Not 100% with Beverly 300 HPE but if the manufacture support your model, it should good, just make sure to use the 10g rollers instead, I believe the 9,2g rollers are design for the 250cc
It won’t ruin the engine at all.. it will enhance its performance a bit thanks to better transmission performance, I’ve mine for over 20k and no issues at all, been super happy with it! One of the best accessories I’ve install on my GTV. Peace ✌️
bro i get this variator buying secondhand from my friend. i see that at minutes 15:27 there is some o ring spring that fill the gap of grease. i lost that parts. can i put the part without that o ring? or do u have any solution
I see you used the 9.2gr rollers it cane with. Its not too much high rev? Ks the torque good? Its recommend to get 10.1gr rollers but I did it but torque not too good
Will this fit on a 2023 Vespa GTS and would it matter if I mix and match a Malossi belt and clutch or should I stay with all polini performance parts ?
Mmmm not sure, mine never made any sound rather than the rattle noise that usually starts after a few hundreds miles, never experienced a whistle sound from my transmission...
Hey! Thanks for the comment! Well, I think that’s more like a personal preference, they are all good, recognized brands that manufacture hight end parts, some have more experience and time in the market than other. I personally always go with Polini! But I don’t have any specify reason why, I have used them all in the past but I always put Polini at the top of my list! Peace✌️
Hey! Thank you so much for the support and the comment! Thats actually a good question to clarify! Since Piaggio is made in EU, all the manual specification are in metrics, meaning that they use Newton-meters (Nm) and since I'm here in USA, they only use here foot-pounds (ft/lbs). 😵💫 One foot-pound (ft/lb) is equal to 1.356 newton-meters (Nm). To convert newton-meters (Nm) to foot-pounds (ft/lbs) all you need to do is divide your figure (Nm) by 1.356. Peace✌
The Polini Maxi Hi-Speed 9 Roller is designed for the Aprilia Atlantic 250, Piaggio MP3 300, Vespa GTS 300ie Scooters, which all work with a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT).
Polini states that the ingredients are (Lithium & Molybdenum disulphide) it is specific for CVT Variator. Solid lubrican able to firmly stick to lubricated surfaces and fill the microscopic holes. The Spring included with the kit is “harder” than the OEM. Thanks 🤙
Hello can I ask you a few questions? I will install same polini kit, but i want to buy new belt polini belt is Width in mm: 20,7 Height in mm: 13,6 Total lenght in mm: 947 My original belt is 954x22.6mm. If i put the polini belt should i have some problems, because is shorter than original. Or polini belt is something like sport and because of this is shorter?
Hey! Thanks for comment! That's a good question! I've never use any other aftermarket belt rather than the OEM from Piaggio. all these aftermarket ones are supposed to be "high performance" and the logical thing would be to install everything Polini as they also recommend, but as far as my knowledge goes these doesn't last as long as the OEM from Piaggio, I have always stick with the Piaggio one and I been able to use them for over 10,000 miles without any issue, even tho they recommend to replace the belt every 6,000 miles... Peace✌
@@TheScooterBud thank you for that fast response, I will order if i can't use will sell it. Because i am from Bulgaria and gonna order it from Italy. Greetings from Bulgaria! ✌️
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! I never try that belt before but I been curios, I just ride my bike way too much and I always prefer to go with the most long lasting stuff than the hight performance. Peace✌️
Hey! Good question! Hahaha I didn’t mesure and write down any numbers, but I did notice a big improvement in acceleration and top speed, I’ll try to gather some more exact numbers for y’all! 🙌
@@TheScooterBud great man but I have the same kit under my Honda Dylan at the moment whit the blue spring the 3 small springs an polini belt I don’t really she a differents bit more power above 100 and top around 115-120 normal 100 easy 110 slow I think am gonna put the 170cc malossi cilinder on it I have seen a UA-cam video it go’s 140 km with that I believe that’s a good speed for this scooter 🛵💨
@@eddie_cooper that's awesome bro! well I personally don't not much about it, but I have read that with bigger displacement you'll have to change to a heavier weights than the one that comes with it, which are 9.2g, For example, I believe this kit also fit 300cc GTS and Super, but you will have to change the rollers to 12.5g weights. Not sure what displacement your bike has but it might be related to something like that, if you're looking for top speed improvement, the bore kit is the one that would give you what you want, but remember that always you swap a performance part you'll need to compensate other things to be able to make it work flawlessly!
Hahaha yeah of course I did! You can see it on minute 15:21 and I left it in there while I was explaining the rest, on minute 17:01 you can see it too, when I start applying the grease it was already inside. Thanks for the comment!
Que tal! Gracias por el comentario! La mayor diferencia está en la aceleración y torque y no tanto en la velocidad máxima, también se siente mucho mas suave y potente, responde mucho mejor, si aumenta un poco la velocidad tope pero yo personalmente no lo he medido exacto, pero si note una gran mejora a comparación del original. Peace✌️
Mmm first time I hear someone said something about this variation, I have put on mine over 20,000 miles without zero issue at all… for me it’s been the best purchase of all, did you contact polo I regarding the issue, it might be defective unit? wrong weights? install incorrectly? lack of lubrication? There are many thing that could have go wrong to just called crap… good luck! Peace✌️
Great video, thanks man!
Two questions-
1. Have you noticed any change to fuel consumption?
2. Any issues with durability to the belt or rollers?
The forums have me torn. There’s obviously no contest in terms of performance for the Polini 🛵💨
Hey! Thanks a lot for the comment and the support! Appreciate you!
Great questions!
1: I haven’t noticed that much in fuel consumption, to be honest, it would be really hard to tell, but I did notice a difference when swapping a performance exhaust in compared with the stock one, I have never liked the stock exhaust tho but that is what I would use with my eyes closed if I were going on a long adventure, is way more reliable than any other exhaust in the market.
I personally think, that if you're looking for reliability and better MPG, OEM parts are going to be your best friends, performances parts are intended for hight intensity and they are not design for longevity.
2: This is a very good question and a very important one!
I haven’t personally measured anything with accuracy to be able to say something solid about it, but from my personal experience, I have put already over 17,000 miles on the MAXI HI•SPEED Variator and I have changed my belt and rollers already three times every 8k-9k miles (I used the 9 Polini rollers of 9,2g with the Piaggio OEM belt), I been tempted to try the POLINI belt but I think the Piaggio one last way longer than any other aftermarket belt, Both belts have been removed after riding them for over 8k miles and shows slightly sign of wear and small cracks but nothing to worry about it, I think I would try to go over 10k on my next one lol, even tho Piaggio recommends changing your rollers every 3k miles and the belt every 6k miles, I do both at 8k-9k and haven’t noticed anything wrong with it, In the other hand, a couple months ago I installed the S.I.P Drive Pulley, The Polini MAXI Speed Clutch & The Speed Bell, and man!! What an improvement!! Video is coming very soon! Can't wait to share it with y’all!
Peace✌
Wow, thanks for the information!
I just purchased a used 2015 GTS with a little belt slap. I figured I might as well upgrade if I’m going to open the transmission anyhow. After reading this I feel more confident installing the Polini! Probably going to get an exhaust too. Maybe Arrow? Not sure yet.
Can’t wait to see the other parts in action!! 👀
@@beehauss My pleasure! That's awesome! Congratulations! what color did you got?
Well, in my personal opinion, every time I get an used Vespa, (depending on the milage) the first thing I do before putting some serious miles on it, is: Oil change, gearbox oil change, belt, rollers, sliders and inspect the clutch, bearing, seals and all the transmission components as well as cleaning them all and everything inside the CVT cover, so you make sure everything is nice and running so you can start to keep track of your services more accurately, because you never know when was the last time the bike was truly serviced the right way!
if you're going to go over all theses things I recommend you watching this video:
►► FULL Detailed Service - Vespa GT/GTS/GTV
ua-cam.com/video/rSkZk_oYBs4/v-deo.html
Peace!✌
@@TheScooterBud I got Gaiola Blue. It’s such a nice color! Also, great points! Definitely going to reference your service video.
You da best!
Oh wow! Yeah! That one is very unique!
Thanks! Glad I can help! 😁 Good luck and if anything, just lmk! Peace✌️
Hello from Greece.
I have a question.
I buy a Beverly 300 hpe 2023.
I also buy a polini hi speed kit with 9,2 rollers.
Is good choice??
Peace 😊
Not 100% with Beverly 300 HPE but if the manufacture support your model, it should good, just make sure to use the 10g rollers instead, I believe the 9,2g rollers are design for the 250cc
Any polini kit for the airblade 2023 model ?
does changing variator to polini will ruin the engine for long used? or this will last longer and good for your engine
It won’t ruin the engine at all.. it will enhance its performance a bit thanks to better transmission performance, I’ve mine for over 20k and no issues at all, been super happy with it! One of the best accessories I’ve install on my GTV. Peace ✌️
bro i get this variator buying secondhand from my friend. i see that at minutes 15:27 there is some o ring spring that fill the gap of grease. i lost that parts. can i put the part without that o ring? or do u have any solution
I see you used the 9.2gr rollers it cane with. Its not too much high rev? Ks the torque good?
Its recommend to get 10.1gr rollers but I did it but torque not too good
Hello! Thanks for comment! The 9.2gr were designed for the 250cc engines setups, people change to 10gr if it’s the 300cc model. Peace ✌️
@@TheScooterBud ok. Which scooter do you have and what weights did you put!
Is there more torque?
Very good video many thanks
Thanks for the comment and support!
Peace✌️
Will this fit on a 2023 Vespa GTS and would it matter if I mix and match a Malossi belt and clutch or should I stay with all polini performance parts ?
Hi. I have whistle sound after puting polini kit, till 30kmh. Any tips for that?
Mmmm not sure, mine never made any sound rather than the rattle noise that usually starts after a few hundreds miles, never experienced a whistle sound from my transmission...
Thanks very much helpful video!!
Thanks for the comment and the support! 🤙
What do you recommend Polini, Malossi or J. Costa variator for my Piaggio Liberty 150?
Hey! Thanks for the comment!
Well, I think that’s more like a personal preference, they are all good, recognized brands that manufacture hight end parts, some have more experience and time in the market than other.
I personally always go with Polini! But I don’t have any specify reason why, I have used them all in the past but I always put Polini at the top of my list!
Peace✌️
Thank you for this video.
I have one question.
In the scale with the Nm numbers it says 75-83 Nm.
Why do you only do 65?
Thank you very much
Hey! Thank you so much for the support and the comment! Thats actually a good question to clarify!
Since Piaggio is made in EU, all the manual specification are in metrics, meaning that they use Newton-meters (Nm) and since I'm here in USA, they only use here foot-pounds (ft/lbs). 😵💫
One foot-pound (ft/lb) is equal to 1.356 newton-meters (Nm). To convert newton-meters (Nm) to foot-pounds (ft/lbs) all you need to do is divide your figure (Nm) by 1.356.
Peace✌
is this for an automatic? Or gear? Thanks
The Polini Maxi Hi-Speed 9 Roller is designed for the Aprilia Atlantic 250, Piaggio MP3 300, Vespa GTS 300ie Scooters, which all work with a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT).
Do you know how kind of grease is?. Lithium or molybdenum?. The spring is harder or softer than the original?.
Polini states that the ingredients are (Lithium & Molybdenum disulphide) it is specific for CVT Variator. Solid lubrican able to firmly stick to lubricated surfaces and fill the microscopic holes. The Spring included with the kit is “harder” than the OEM. Thanks 🤙
@@TheScooterBud thanks a lot
Hello can I ask you a few questions? I will install same polini kit, but i want to buy new belt polini belt is Width in mm: 20,7
Height in mm: 13,6
Total lenght in mm: 947
My original belt is 954x22.6mm.
If i put the polini belt should i have some problems, because is shorter than original.
Or polini belt is something like sport and because of this is shorter?
Hey! Thanks for comment!
That's a good question! I've never use any other aftermarket belt rather than the OEM from Piaggio. all these aftermarket ones are supposed to be "high performance" and the logical thing would be to install everything Polini as they also recommend, but as far as my knowledge goes these doesn't last as long as the OEM from Piaggio, I have always stick with the Piaggio one and I been able to use them for over 10,000 miles without any issue, even tho they recommend to replace the belt every 6,000 miles...
Peace✌
@@TheScooterBud thank you for that fast response, I will order if i can't use will sell it. Because i am from Bulgaria and gonna order it from Italy. Greetings from Bulgaria! ✌️
Awesome! Let me know how it goes! I never try that belt before but I been curios, I just ride my bike way too much and I always prefer to go with the most long lasting stuff than the hight performance.
Peace✌️
Stock vs polini blue spring. Which one is stiffer?
Total wiegh of those 9 rollers?
Hey! Thanks for the comment! Yes, the Polini is “stiffer” and if you do the math 9.2g x 9 = 82.8g total weight. Peace✌️
@@TheScooterBud im going to buy 1 set. Thanks man
@@whitedove3436 Thanks a lot for the support!🙌 Peace!✌
Hello Brother.
For Yamaha xmax 300
Which option is more suitable?
Polini?
j.costa?
Help me please.
Being soft. Being fast. Good average speed is important to me.
I tested the modified versions of Taiwan.
are violent
do u have to grease it?
Yes!
What exactly does doing this upgrade improve?
Faster acceleration and speed 🛵💨
Top speed?
Top speed different ?
Hey! Good question! Hahaha I didn’t mesure and write down any numbers, but I did notice a big improvement in acceleration and top speed, I’ll try to gather some more exact numbers for y’all! 🙌
@@TheScooterBud great man but I have the same kit under my Honda Dylan at the moment whit the blue spring the 3 small springs an polini belt I don’t really she a differents bit more power above 100 and top around 115-120 normal 100 easy 110 slow I think am gonna put the 170cc malossi cilinder on it I have seen a UA-cam video it go’s 140 km with that I believe that’s a good speed for this scooter 🛵💨
@@eddie_cooper that's awesome bro! well I personally don't not much about it, but I have read that with bigger displacement you'll have to change to a heavier weights than the one that comes with it, which are 9.2g, For example, I believe this kit also fit 300cc GTS and Super, but you will have to change the rollers to 12.5g weights. Not sure what displacement your bike has but it might be related to something like that, if you're looking for top speed improvement, the bore kit is the one that would give you what you want, but remember that always you swap a performance part you'll need to compensate other things to be able to make it work flawlessly!
I may have missed it but did you use the spring washer?
Hahaha yeah of course I did! You can see it on minute 15:21 and I left it in there while I was explaining the rest, on minute 17:01 you can see it too, when I start applying the grease it was already inside. Thanks for the comment!
@@TheScooterBud Damn....your right I missed it, thanks for pointing that out.
👍
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Que velocidad máxima coje ahora.
Que tal! Gracias por el comentario!
La mayor diferencia está en la aceleración y torque y no tanto en la velocidad máxima, también se siente mucho mas suave y potente, responde mucho mejor, si aumenta un poco la velocidad tope pero yo personalmente no lo he medido exacto, pero si note una gran mejora a comparación del original.
Peace✌️
This variator is crap. The one i had came apart
Mmm first time I hear someone said something about this variation, I have put on mine over 20,000 miles without zero issue at all… for me it’s been the best purchase of all, did you contact polo I regarding the issue, it might be defective unit? wrong weights? install incorrectly? lack of lubrication? There are many thing that could have go wrong to just called crap… good luck! Peace✌️