As a professional History teacher in the United Sates and a former member of the United Sates Army, with a Master's in Military, The Finish Armed Forces have always interested me. It can be argued that if you compare regular Finnish Soldiers to almost any other nations Regular Infantry Soldier or grunt, one on one; The Finns have the some of if not thy best soldiers in the World. A mostly conscript Army in 1939 with a core of professional soldiers, the Finns put the Soviets in the ground. In the Continuation War they made the German Wehrmacht, Waffen SS, Hungarian and Romanian troops look foolish. The Finns could, did but hopefully won't have to again turn the Forests of Finland into the grave of the Russians. And on top of all this, the Finns attacked their former allies Germany in the Lapland War. A lot of these successes can and are in history accredited to Mannerheims brilliance for wearing a uniform in war, another for politics and another for creating peace. A lot can be said about Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, for the sake of brevity I will leave it to my belief that he was in the top 5 military commanders of the 20th century. Ironic though, that he was from a noble German House and was trained in the arts of war by the Russian Monarchical Government. As to soldier to soldier they match up or are jut simply better soldiers then most, Simo Hayha 500+ dead Communists. Captain Lauri Allen Torni, he was so skilled in killing Communists that after the three Wars from 39-45, he emigrated to the United States and joined the U.S. Army. who at 38 joined the U.S. Army Special Forces, The Green Berets, specifically (10th) Special Forces group. Torni, who in America is referred to in all Military Documents as Larry Thorne died for his new country in South Vietnam. But not after killing a shitload more communists. Anyway, if an Armies wealth, technology, logistics abilities and weapons were even. I would put everything on the Finnish Army to beat any Army in the field. They create some bad ass dudes.
As a Finnish reserve lieutenant I'd like to propose my own list for the best 5 senior commanders in WW2: Zhukov Konyiev Eisenhower (without ever firing a round in anger in his life) McArthur Air Marshall "Bomber" Harris/ Curtis leMay Because they won. The hard way ( except for Ike, who was already a politician, a bit like General Bet-ray-us.) Because only the winners write history. And we Finns finished in second place... after the Soviet Union on the Eastern front. Was not a gentle place even in 1945 when the shooting had stopped. Thanks for your interest in our story man, it's important lest we ourselves forget. Cheers.
Thank You for the kind words Sir! My father was an artillery spotter in the Continuation War and the Lapland War. He volunteered at the age of 17 and never wanted to talk about his experiences.
Simo as an regular grunt had +200 kills with his Suomi konepistooli. too. All that in less of an 100 days. The reason i need to mention this is allt the other sniper or killers had their career of many years or so. Okay at the time many russians and few finns. Note: No one should go to war and sacrifice his life for a bad stupid cause , soldiers disarm and stay home.
Greetings from Singapore... Being in a country with universal conscription is a experience unlike any other, in which you can always remember in later stages of your life. We have the same defense practices here as well, so may we always stay safe and independent! Singapore x Finland!
This is what we need in Sweden. Damn I wish I lived in Finland.. Allthough I can if I want.. I'm half finnish and I have a finnish citizenship but I'm determined to stay in Sweden and defend the country I live in with Försvarsmakten and then start a career in politics to try change Sweden into the country I wish it was. Wish me luck lads. You are my inspiration.
You should be happy, Sweden has a stronger army than Finland. It's not conscription and manpower that matters these days, it's the airforce, navy, mechanized infantry and tanks. Sweden does not need an unegual system, where half of the population is forced to be slaves because of their gender.
Boston Sweden has 40 000 soldiers, so they can man those planes, boats and tanks. Sweden has more planes, Finland has more tanks. Go to Global Firepower. They show it there that Sweden is better than Finland.
Boston Russia can't attack Sweden with 2.5 million soldiers, because they don't share borders with Sweden. They need to make an amphibious invasion first, which is diffucult, because the Swedish navy is a rather strong opponent for the Russian Baltic fleet. Russia can't also use their entire Baltic fleet, because of NATO beeing present in the region. In Finlands case, if Russia attacks with 2.5million troops, what is 230 000 soldiers going to do? But the fact that you even said 2.5million troops showes that you really know nothing about warfare. Russia only has total of 3.3million soldiers, they can't use 2.5million of them to defeat one small country.
Kun mun vaari oli armeijassa, sille sanottiin että "katso voiko tän tien päällä mennä tankilla, tyyli vapaa." Noin tunti myöhemmin se tuli ja sano että siitä voi mennä, Kun siltä kysyttiin että miten sait sen selville Se ajo siitä tankilla Se sano tyyli vapaa ja nii se tekiki On kyllä suomi kova maa
Vanha kommentti, mutta vastaan kuitenkin :D Kokelas käski mut ja kaverin tiedustelemaan, että pääseekö kartan kinttupolkua X autolla. No otettiin sitte "mun" eemeli-sisu alle, jossa oli joku 11 kuutioo dieseliä kyydissä ja lähettiin tiedustelemaan. Vähän oli ahtaita paikkoja puiden väleissä ja pehmeetä, mutta päästiin. 30min käskynannosta palattiin takaisin ja keskustelu käytiin: kok: No miten on, pääseekö siitä autolla? -Juu pääsee, mutta portterit saattaa jäädä kiinni kok: Mistäs sen tiiätte? -No ku meinas sisukin jäädä... Pehmeetä on. kok: Siis te menitte autolla?? No...jaa olishan se pitäny arvata ku autosotamiehen laittaa asialle. No hyvä, pistetään maantievehkeet sitte toista reittiä...
As a former US Marine, I am impressed with Finish military conscription, training and product. I enjoyed watching the process and believe the Finnish Military to be an first rate military.
Naurattaa aina nuo ensimmäinen herätys kun oli niin hiljasta ja rauhallista. Meillä ensimmäisen aamu oli lähestulkoon kun joku olis singolla ampunut oven auki ja alko rääkyminen :D E-jaksolla siirryttiin muualle niin kahta kauheempi sessio :D
En tiedä onko miten paljon muuttunut meno nykyään, mutta sama homma oli meillä 2010. Ensimmäinen aamu ja heti välittömästi "komppaniassa herätys!" -huudon jälkeen alikit potkaisi oven auki, pisti valot päälle ja tulivat rummuttamaan sänkyjen päätyjä "ylös sängystä!!!" -huutojen säestämänä. :D Oli lievä shokki!
The Finns are smart and make very good soldiers. They are like the British in that they punch well above their weight as the Russians found out in the winter war.
Tuolle yhdelle pojan nossikalle vastaukseksi: Suomen armeijan rk on oikeissa käsissä oikein käytettynä erittäin tarkka ja tappava laite. Rk:lla pystyy ampumaan 9/10 laukauksesta rintaan aina 300m asti. Eikä todellakaan tarvitse mitään 2min tähtäyksiä. Pientä harjoittelua niin tuohon pystyy jokainen kuka haluaa.
+peabase Paskapuhetta. Ihan hyvin nuo tähtäimet toimii tositilanteessakin. Muun muassa M-16, M-4, FN Fal, G3 ja Galil -kivääreissä on vastaavat tähtäimet. Näitä aseita on käytössä konflikteissa ympäri maailmaa ja hyvin pelaa. Afrikan puskasodissa ja Kaakois-Aasian viidakoissakin. Miksei Suomessa? Sitäpaitsi molemmissa RK:issa on mahdollisuus käyttää avotähtäimiä reikätähtäimen sijaan. Erinomainen kivääri. Edelleenkin.
qelleri On reikätähtäimiä ja reikätähtäimiä. Valmetin takatähtäin on selvästi peittävämpi kuin esim. AR-rynkkyjen. Se onko Valmetit vielä käyttökelpoista tavaraa on taas aivan eri juttu. Sitä en mene kiistämään. On kuitenkin tyhmää olla myöntämättä käytössä ilmenneitä puutteita.
Saahan niihin punapisteen kun ostaa, eikä ole edes hyvin kalliita. Testattu on reserviläis RK:ssa, on paljon helpompi tähdätä ja nopeammin saa laukauksen jälkeen uudelleen jyvälle. Jollain ns. halpis punapisteellä jo tekee hyvin kasan tauluun ja etuna on siis edelleen että voi ampua todella nopeaa, lähes sarjatulimaista tulta sohimatta paljonkaan ohi. Recommended, jos tietäis että sota alkaa niin melkein tilais ittelleen kiskot ja sellatteen etukäteen. :P
Toki venäjällä on lihaa ja kalustoa hieeman enemmän, mut ei suurta osaa siitä kuitenkaan suomea vastaan voi pistää. Venäjällä on paljon rajanaapureita ja paljon sitä rajaa jota pitää valvoa. Se riittää että suomi tekee valtauksen sen verran hankalaksi hyötyyn nähden että ei tänne kannata iskeä
juu ei venäjä tänne tuu,ollaan kuitennii frendejä,ja he tietää,arvostaa meiän puolustusta,ollaan venäjälleki pohjoisen kilpi,asiat muuttuu jos liitytään natoon,urpot ei tajuu sitä
@Tosik You think Finland would do better without an army? The only force that has ever threatened us, is on East from our border so I don't think we have to worry about Tomahawk missiles too much.
Toki 5v vanha kommentti ja näin, mutta Suomi kestäisi yksin Venäjää vastaan kaksi viikkoa avointa sotaa ennen kuin jouduttaisiin antautumaan. Ja tämä on se optimistisin arvio. Jos Venäjä oikeasti haluaisi tämän maapläntin niin ei meillä ihan hirveästi olisi sananvaltaa asiaan. Niillä on kuitenkin "nopean toiminnan joukkoja" joku puoli miljoonaa tuossa rajan tuntumassa että kannattaa sekin huomioida.
seuraava sota tuskin tulee olemaan niinku vanhat sodat. Ei tarvi kun katkasta sähköt tai iskee sähkönjakeluun niin koko maa olis iha sekasin ei vettä, kommunikaatio mahollisuuksia ei oikeestaan mitään😆 tai sit virus tai joku muu kemiallinen ase tai pommi ja siinä se oli.
Me suomalaiset ollaan usein maanläheisiä ja reiluja tyyppejä. Arvostetaan rehellisyyttä sekä luontoa. Mutta tosipaikan tullen kaikista löytyy se sammumaton kipinä puolustaa ja suojella. Olkaa ylpeästi suomalaisia, meitä ei hirveän paljon ole tällä pallolla.
Ihan mahtava video, vaikka intti oli silloin aika perseestä en voi väittää ettenkö olisi oppinut mitään tai etten olisi kehittynyt ihmisenä. Enemmän hyviä kuin huonoja muistoja. Kannattaa mennä vaikka isoveli pelotteliski.
Kait toi riippuu niin paikasta. Itse ainakin rakastin intti aikaani, ja rakastan edelleen. Mutta palveluspaikka ohjusvene, missä oli 4-6 varusmiestä ja 26++ skapparii. Joten nämä herrottelut oli aika vähillä. Lähimmät esimiehet lt ja yliluti oli vaan Pode ja Repe :)
If you are motivated to integrate, I think it would be a good place to start. It can be tough, but you'll learn the language and gain lifelong friends. If you are capable of doing your part that is.
I laughed loud and hard at the mention of the importance of logistics. 80 days into their "special operation " into Ukraine, the Russians are still trying to grasp a rudimentary mastery of logistics.
The defence capability is kept mostly for political leverage. A country which has no defence capability and which can not secure its territorial integrity has to do more or less what the more powerful neighbor(s) like. A country with defence capability may make all kinds of political decisions, without asking permission from anyone.
Declare independence if you want that. The Finnish military is a defence force, and Finland is big enough country for our small population. It's not coming "to liberate" anyone.
The best year of my life! I pity the foreigners who don't have an access to this possibility and to experience these challenges. And getting back into civilian, everything just seems so easy afterwards.
Terry Lynn what exactly do you find to be good in conscription? you don't have to pity us, i would never want to participate in this kind of modern slavery.
Alexandr Šidelka Finns find nice to spend lifetime while equal women enjoy their youth. Blatant discrimination if roles were reversed we would seem mass female protests
I think most of us Finns who served our bit for the common fatherland understand that it was a neccessary sacrifice made for the good of the community. Maybe it is a bit too altruistic for the greedy modern individualist you seem to be. Conscription is a valid option to organize a considerable defence for a low population country with huge landmass - and a superpower neighbor.
What do you mean? It is just a matter of how you organize your society. Some people would say paying taxes to feed the poor and maintain roads etc. is unfair. We settled with conscription that is mandatory for males because it is efficient. I dont think that a system including mandatory female conscription would work because of physical differences between the sexes. It doesnt always need to be fair, men here are willing to take responsibility of the defence of our great nation and sacrifice months and years of our lives for that purpose. I understand that this is not a common thing in western societies anymore.
Five years ago, I broke my back in service, I was high on pain medicine for a week. I could not sleep for a week and when they finally sent me home they were mad because I had lost one pair of socks and I didn't lose them, they were stolen.
I was a conscript in Estonia, it was pretty fun. Spent 11 months in "Kuperjanov". In the moment, when you are fully wet by the rain, in the dark forest, without being allowed to use a flashlight, and having a 30kg (~65lb) backpack with you, being yelled at, its.. a bad time then. But looking back at it, it was a really good experience.
@@Seersant idk what is good about this, seems more like something called euphoric memory rather than “good experience”. And it’s low key sociopathic to assume it’s a good thing to force unwilling people to undergo this torture
@@PAULSGEO Well, this is just your perspective. If you grow up in a country, where your older close relatives have been abducted to Russia, your country has been invaded by Russia and so on, its a pretty honorable thing to serve your time. If you are a healthy individual, you will be fine. It grows a pair of balls on a man and not one person i personally know (and served with) disliked the military. Of course i must say, that i provided a really dark memory from the past (that's now cool to reflect on), but there were so many beautiful times with newly made friends too. Calling the whole military experience torture is a bit much. And this documentary is also 10 years old, nowadays the mil experience is also easier. Estonia and Finland both have conscription services because it is necessary for our freedom. I do get where you are coming from though, but most Estonians see the military conscription as a good thing, my Finnish brothers haven't complained too much either :D
@@Seersant Yeah, they don’t complain, because if they do the society downvotes them to oblivion. The society creates such overwhelming pressure on an individual that it seems like avoiding the service is a crime or smth. It’s just that they are scared to complain because people would call them cowards and etc… Overall the militant propaganda glamorizing conscription, pushing it everywhere… it’s a mess and it’s very discriminatory. I do understand your history and I relate to your experience with Russia, my country was also occupied and economically ruined by the Soviet Union. HOWEVER, there’s no moral justification to just force people into blind patriotic obedience and unquestionable loyalty. It’s absolutely disgusting and dehumanizing bulls**t. I don’t care for what reason your country is doing this, putting people into prison like places without their permission is just utterly disgusting. It assumes that all men (men only, while Estonia seems to be a progressive country supporting equal rights) are not free beings with rights to their own bodies, who must sign their life to the government as a mere recourse CONSCRIPTION = SL@V€R¥
Ainoa kunnon käytännön johto siviilissä: Lääkintä, sotilaspoliisi, tekninen huolto, suojelu, kuljetus, muonahuolto, pastorit. Sitten ne erikoisjoukkojen häiriintyneet kivat tyypit, jotka ovat persoonia jo sinänsä...
Hey I'm from England but also I'm half Finnish and I'm going to be doing my national service when I'm 18 but I only speak English is that a problem? I'm willing to learn Finnish and sure I'll pick it up as I go
+Toby mackenzie U won't be the first nor the last whose doing his military service as english as his only language. Finns do speak english pretty well so your service mates will surely teach u ;) That being said, imo u should try to learn at least a bit of the language before u go so u wont come across as a total tool at the beginning since the orders are usually given in finnish.
+Toby mackenzie You should contact Mr. Alan Smith, the Englishman that did his service with us not too long ago. yle.fi/uutiset/brittipoika_halusi_kayda_armeijan_suomessa__hellyttava_syy/8371623
+Toby mackenzie Hello Toby. Almost everybody in Finland speaks quire good English so that shouldnt be any problem. Its nice to hear youre interested servicing in Finland. Do you any ideas where are you going and what would want to do?
Ukraine could do with as much help as possible on all aspects of winter warfare. Everybody as a idea but Finland are the experts and knows every little detail, tactics and logistics and to apply these. Thank you.
@Denis Morgan There is as cold in northern/eastern Ukraine than in Finland. Gross failures in winter fighting are more to do with sergeants not enforcing strict foot care dicipline, poor winter clothing, poor lodgings, insufficient diet (you need easily 1000-1500 ADDITIONAL calories), and above all, lack of hot drink/food in combat area (you cant survive on cold rations for long, no matter how big they are). Finns hauled field kitchens to almost front lines, even further than light mortars. Men got hot meals and hot coffee just before combat, and on to slash enemy they went. Complexities of fighting successfully in wintertime, and keeping your men healthy, really seems way, way too much to ask for incompetent russian army. Mistakes get magnified expotentially in subzero combat.
In general success comes with well working logistics, and NCOs enforcing strict dicipline of self monitoring. In many cases, NCO must visually inspect feet of every soldier on his command every day or 2. Soldier might not understand what it means that his sore feet suddenly feels just fine. Can run faster than for weeks. It means your have got your feet frozen...
Under duress unit must work together. An squad will build cozy shelter to keep them warm through night easily. If left to own devices, invidual soldiers are barely alive in morning after minus 20 centigrade night.
Ukrainian Army knows all the "secrets". The real secret is dicipline. Vast majority of cold casualties are pure negligence. Russian jailbirds and mobilization troops are ripe to be plucked, when they start to drop dead in freezing cold.
Katos USA:n, Venäjän ja Kiinan kutsuntamainokset. USA: female empowerment. Venäjä: maskuliininen urheilumainos Kiina: meillä on kaikkea kymmenin kappalein
Short answer: Probably yes. More information can be found here: varusmies.fi/en/frontpage and here (page 17): puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/MAAVE_Varusmiesopas_2016_EN/1c0dc0d4-4a8a-41cc-b020-5150ed88171e
My friend is from Taiwan, he had never been in Finland or anything and didnt speak finnish a single word but he is finnish citizen and had finnish passport he had to go to finnish army. he is super nice guy and he did great, in Finland most people speak english also so it wasnt problem. :D
I remember when i was watching this first time like 2 years before going to army. It feels so weird to watch this now 3 months after my military service in Lapland
Minä menin inttiin kesäkuussa 1982. Tuohon aikaan oli äijä jos meni kännissä inttiin, viimeisellä minuutilla ennen myöhästymissyytettä ja niinhän minä tein. Eka aamupesun, n. 1,5 minuuttia, käytin veden juomiseen suoraan hanasta. Pikkasen nauratti kaverit jotka alkoivat pestä hampaitaan tahnan kanssa, mutta eivät ehtineet huuhtoa suutaan kun jo oltinn takaisin tuvassa, harjoittelemassa punkan tekoa. No, ajat ovat muuttuneet ja hyvä niin.
I would recommend we add a group of training recruits a group of ages between 29-65 For those who have not gone through military training or have gone through consientious objection of various styles who have decided to actually go through the military after first refusing it. The new group would probably be a few hundred a year, i would also recommend necessary military service for women, thats about the major points ive noticed.
If your native language is English, you won't have any problems. Everyone speaks decent English, including the training staff, conscript leaders and your fellow recruits. Nobody will be judged or picked for having a language disadvantage. The units often gather all non-Finnish speakers together in the same sleeping rooms, and they will train as a single group as well. so they only have to explain things in English for one group. You will have an experience you will remember the rest of your life. Of course you and your service mates will sometimes be so tired and pissed off that you will enter a status BEYOND being pissed off, and just laugh.
The same tactic as Russia occupied 10 % of Finland and still didnt return to finns russian use in russian -Ukraine war. They says that help finnish people) World do nothing to stop russians invaders..
Tarvii sanoo et oli hauska kokemus jos ei ota huomioon kolme ekaa viikkoa ilman lomaa ja KH kaudella 4 viikon kipeänä olemista. Kauemminkin olis voinu olla #347AUK
Stay strong Finnish Brothers and Sisters!The Russians are watching your every move just like they are here in the US.Right now we here a closet Muslim sympathizer for a president who got reelected by a lot of stupid people.Keep training and keep your country safe.
***** F-22s? That's a sure-fire way of wasting limited defence funds. No matter how effective, even vastly inferior Russian aircraft would simply overwhelm them. More AMRAAMs for the existing FAF F-18s is a better way to go. Harpoons wouldn't go amiss either.
***** The unit cost of a F-22 is $412M. That of a F/A-18A/B/C/D with all the bells and whistles is $57M.The operating cost of the F-22 is $61k/h, that of the F/A-18 $16k/h. Do I need to go on? OK, the F-22 is out of production and export controls prohibit selling used ones abroad, rendering the whole discussion moot.
***** So far I'm not impressed with your up-to-dateness. It's only a matter time -- by some estimates, 5 to 10 years -- before the stealth features of the F-35 are rendered ineffective by sophisticated SAM systems. The stealthier F-22 might fare better in this respect, but it won't be on hand, will it?
What is this Finland-Russia interest? What Russia has to do with Finland's territory at all?? I really don't get it. The only tension is made up by people's mind and someone high up. No one has interest in these nonsense talks.
judiccc Well, Finland and Sweden are getting some closer ties with NATO which is concerning Russia highly. If Russia invaded the Nordic countries they would have two angles of America. A war on two fronts. So everything is not nonsense in this.
judiccc review not so distant history my friend , Russia invaded Finland in 1939.. a typically brazen act of aggression demanding the concession of land it wanted. No other nation in the history of human civilization has owned a land mass the size of Russia and it brutishly bullies neighbors to give it what it wants or takes it by force. Russia doesn't want allies or equals, its never had that and has never ever functioned internally as such, it's for lack of a clearer term, an autocracy if ever there was one. To ignore the character and history of your bully-boy neighbor would simply be foolish for Finland to do if long-term it wishes to stay Finland or else not a vassal state. A nation of the population size of Finland I'm sure would much rather spend it's resources and hard earned money enjoying the finer things in life and taking their ease, but they know their history, their neighborhood and the enormity of that shared border.. They'd be fools that deserved their fate if they chose to put their heads in the sand.
Yleinen asevelvollisuus on paras! Me, suomalaiset asevelvolliset osaamme kaiken. Ilman tietokoneita, ulkoa. Jotkut suomalaiset pääsivät jo 1995 Pentagonin koneisiin, mutta eihän niistä puhuttu, kun testattiin niitä surkeita GPS-laitteita :-)
Olen toiminut vuosia reserviläistoiminnassa. Aina harjoitellaan rakennukseen menoa. Jos ryssä hyökkää Suomeen niin miksi se jää yhteen rakennukseen odottamaan tappamistaan? Miksi ei harjoitella puolustamaan kaupungin reuna alueita sekä sisääntulo kaistoja. Eli meneeko speznats odottamaan huoneeseen että suomalaiset tulevat? Kertokaa joku onko venäläisten päätavoite linnottautua johonkin huoneeseen?
eddie123 Speznats yleensä pyrkii linnottautumaan joko kodinhoitohuoneisiin tai yläkerran suihkutiloihin, jos semmoisia on. Se jää niihin tiloihin väijymään siksi että niissä usein on lattialämmitys, mikä varsinkin talvella pitää speznatsin lämpimänä. :)
eddie123 Olet aivan oikeassa. Tuollainen huoneenvyörytys sopii lähinnä joihinkin spollehommiin, mutta nyt kaikki kaljamahat luulevat tuhoavansa vihollisen lähitaistelussa rakennuksissa. Oikeasti kaupunkitaisteluissa olisi isoja hommia ja vihollisen asemat tuhottaisiin isoilla pyssyillä. Tavanomainen poteropuolustustaistelu ja sen harjoittelu ei vain ole seksikästä.
eddie123 Mitähän helvettiä se ryssä siitä metsien valtaamisesta hyötyy? Todellisuus on se että kaupunkeja täytyy puolustaa ja suurimmat taistelut käytäisiin taajamissa/kaupungeissa.
nokkapokka Katsos kun se ryssä ei pääse meidän kaupunkeihin kulkematta Itä-Suomen metsien läpi. Puolustajalla on etuoikeus valita taistelukenttänsä, jos toimii oikein. Pelkät maahanlaskut ilman hyökkäystä maitse eivät tule onnistumaan.
Itselläni oli ala-aste ikäisenä todettu rasitus astma. Vaadin saada palvella A-miehistössä. Terveisin Ilmavoimien sotilaspoliisi kurssilta numero yksi vuodelta -97. Sain jopa kultaisen ampumerkin. Meitä olikin se kaksi koko sotilaspoliisi komppaniasta joka sen onnistui saamaan.
Toveri Juri I am from the U.S. Are you saying you cannot own a Valmet type rifle when you leave service? Not the one you had during service, but can't you buy one at gun store?
Aaron Mings Conscription has very little to do with gun ownership here. Civilians are prohibited from owning automatic weapons. There are semi-automatic versions of the same rifle we use in the army for civilian use, but... Well. Gun ownership has been made extremely annoying and difficult in this country after two cases of school shootings. Funny enough with our current gun laws both of those school shooters would have still owned a gun.
Aaron Mings In theory yes but full auto weapons require an hard to get special permit. Also that gun is not anymore in production an costs at least 2000 € in a gunshop. Besides how often does one need rapid fire anyway? I'd rather recommend buying a Maxim MG if you have the permit and the money.
At least I was told that I could buy my service weapon after the service ended. The thing is that the automatic firing mechanism would get disabled at that point by the gunsmith. Civilians are not allowed to own automatic rifles here in Finland. I didn't buy because I had no need for it. And I would have needed to get a permit for it as well.
The Finnish name is laskuvarjojääkäri (translates as parashoot jäger), they belong into ground forces (army), airborne troops. They're trained in Utin jääkärirykmentti (jäger regiment in Utti). If you want to use online translation fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskuvarjoj%C3%A4%C3%A4k%C3%A4ri
This here is like a trailer video. Of cource they just show the best parts. In reality, the army is in strugle because there are not enough military refreshers for the entire reserve. Finland does have a rather good defence force compared to it's size, but it lacks the ability to stop a very fast, modern invasion.
I know this is a bit off subject but Germany is thinking about bringing back conscription, if that doesn't you something what does ? Finnish army should be better trained and of course prepared for any event. Finland needs to review it's military alliance soon and make the process fast, time can't wasted. Being neutral isn't wise, look at Ukraine.
Resident evil Here is the kind of army Finland needs; 100 000-140 000 soldiers, no mandatory service, better airforce, better navy, better ground arsenal, NATO membership. With these things, Finland would be safe. Does Germany have the right system? Do they use profeccional army, or voluntary reservearmy? Finland should use voluntary reservearmy.
That is quiet a dramatic structural change, I would be look for a much bigger reserve force 300,000, just look at Israel. I agree extra spending in equipment is a must, no question about it. Could Finland and Sweden agree to combined forces, where each army would be in either country, sharing resources plus more spending power, they should be. As far as Germany is concerned, conscripts aren't the complete answer, it needs to bolster it's active army, considering it's size not a home guard? No question about it has the weapons, but doesn't sadly use the power at it resource, needs to training more and be more pro active, bit of a dark horse.
Woops, a break down on my numbers for Finland, reviewed. I should have looked at stats first. Dose Finland have the budget for over 100,000 active soliders. The reserves I have just doubled to add sheer bulk or would more special units be better suited, it worked in the past ? Active armed forces - ;80,000 Reserves - 700,000
Mun kaverin isoveli ei piitannut siitä että missä ollaan ja mitkä olivat käskyt vaan menee pelleilee ja ampuu sinne tänne se ei ole hyvän sotilaan merkki ite oon ampunut aseella aika vähän mutta silloin mökillä maalitauluun
You can’t hide a submarine near to Finland, you can’t even release a fart in Finnish territorial seas without we knowing it straight away. Finnish coast guard are so good and we have enough weapons to put down Any battleship 😃
@@levvy3006 excess discipline isn't needed if the soldiers are motivated and do their job, like it currently is in Finland. Discipline pops up in the system only when right things don't happen as expected.
I would prefer volunteer than conscription but i understand finland does not have enough man power. i hope finland have good mental support for soldier
Conscripts in Finland do not go to war except on their own soil. The best mental support is, like someone said, you get to meet people from all walks of life in the service. Rich and poor, black and white, muslim and christian, all sleep in same quarters and learn to work together.
War is hell...people o went to war have physical and mental issues for life...but in case of self defense every Suomi soldier have duty to have Simo Hayha numbers too.
Tätä sit jankattii 4 tuntia kutsunnois. Niska ja pää oli kipee ja nää videot pauhas taustal ja sit ne videot loppu ja olin sillee et"aaah ihana hiljasuus" ja eiku joku saakeli soikoo menee pistää ne videot uudellee pyörii😂😂😂😂😂
@@k3kboi665 I mean, at least you're not dying in a shithole. We are also at least serving to defend our country, not serving to occupy other countries.
Think what you want of me, but I belong to the fraction who believes that the army makes a man out of you and that conscription is needed in the case of defense or when the army hasn't enough volunteers
As a professional History teacher in the United Sates and a former member of the United Sates Army, with a Master's in Military, The Finish Armed Forces have always interested me. It can be argued that if you compare regular Finnish Soldiers to almost any other nations Regular Infantry Soldier or grunt, one on one; The Finns have the some of if not thy best soldiers in the World. A mostly conscript Army in 1939 with a core of professional soldiers, the Finns put the Soviets in the ground. In the Continuation War they made the German Wehrmacht, Waffen SS, Hungarian and Romanian troops look foolish. The Finns could, did but hopefully won't have to again turn the Forests of Finland into the grave of the Russians. And on top of all this, the Finns attacked their former allies Germany in the Lapland War. A lot of these successes can and are in history accredited to Mannerheims brilliance for wearing a uniform in war, another for politics and another for creating peace. A lot can be said about Baron Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim, for the sake of brevity I will leave it to my belief that he was in the top 5 military commanders of the 20th century. Ironic though, that he was from a noble German House and was trained in the arts of war by the Russian Monarchical Government. As to soldier to soldier they match up or are jut simply better soldiers then most, Simo Hayha 500+ dead Communists. Captain Lauri Allen Torni, he was so skilled in killing Communists that after the three Wars from 39-45, he emigrated to the United States and joined the U.S. Army. who at 38 joined the U.S. Army Special Forces, The Green Berets, specifically (10th) Special Forces group. Torni, who in America is referred to in all Military Documents as Larry Thorne died for his new country in South Vietnam. But not after killing a shitload more communists. Anyway, if an Armies wealth, technology, logistics abilities and weapons were even. I would put everything on the Finnish Army to beat any Army in the field. They create some bad ass dudes.
As a Finnish reserve lieutenant I'd like to propose my own list for the best 5 senior commanders in WW2:
Zhukov
Konyiev
Eisenhower (without ever firing a round in anger in his life)
McArthur
Air Marshall "Bomber" Harris/ Curtis leMay
Because they won. The hard way ( except for Ike, who was already a politician, a bit like General Bet-ray-us.)
Because only the winners write history. And we Finns finished in second place... after the Soviet Union on the Eastern front. Was not a gentle place even in 1945 when the shooting had stopped.
Thanks for your interest in our story man, it's important lest we ourselves forget. Cheers.
Thank You for the kind words Sir! My father was an artillery spotter in the Continuation War and the Lapland War. He volunteered at the age of 17 and never wanted to talk about his experiences.
As a Finnish reserve grunt (signaller).. that's far from reality. Flattering for sure.
Simo as an regular grunt had +200 kills with his Suomi konepistooli. too. All that in less of an 100 days. The reason i need to mention this is allt the other sniper or killers had their career of many years or so. Okay at the time many russians and few finns. Note: No one should go to war and sacrifice his life for a bad stupid cause , soldiers disarm and stay home.
@@simonsimonovic4478 good point but Germans was not even close, UZA has about 1000 army bases outside.
Greetings from Singapore... Being in a country with universal conscription is a experience unlike any other, in which you can always remember in later stages of your life. We have the same defense practices here as well, so may we always stay safe and independent! Singapore x Finland!
This is what we need in Sweden. Damn I wish I lived in Finland..
Allthough I can if I want.. I'm half finnish and I have a finnish citizenship but I'm determined to stay in Sweden and defend the country I live in with Försvarsmakten and then start a career in politics to try change Sweden into the country I wish it was. Wish me luck lads. You are my inspiration.
Say hello to our big brothers.
Didn't you have conscription in Sweden until recently?
You should be happy, Sweden has a stronger army than Finland. It's not conscription and manpower that matters these days, it's the airforce, navy, mechanized infantry and tanks. Sweden does not need an unegual system, where half of the population is forced to be slaves because of their gender.
Boston Sweden has 40 000 soldiers, so they can man those planes, boats and tanks. Sweden has more planes, Finland has more tanks. Go to Global Firepower. They show it there that Sweden is better than Finland.
Boston Russia can't attack Sweden with 2.5 million soldiers, because they don't share borders with Sweden. They need to make an amphibious invasion first, which is diffucult, because the Swedish navy is a rather strong opponent for the Russian Baltic fleet. Russia can't also use their entire Baltic fleet, because of NATO beeing present in the region. In Finlands case, if Russia attacks with 2.5million troops, what is 230 000 soldiers going to do? But the fact that you even said 2.5million troops showes that you really know nothing about warfare. Russia only has total of 3.3million soldiers, they can't use 2.5million of them to defeat one small country.
Kun mun vaari oli armeijassa, sille sanottiin että "katso voiko tän tien päällä mennä tankilla, tyyli vapaa."
Noin tunti myöhemmin se tuli ja sano että siitä voi mennä,
Kun siltä kysyttiin että miten sait sen selville
Se ajo siitä tankilla
Se sano tyyli vapaa ja nii se tekiki
On kyllä suomi kova maa
Vanha kommentti, mutta vastaan kuitenkin :D
Kokelas käski mut ja kaverin tiedustelemaan, että pääseekö kartan kinttupolkua X autolla. No otettiin sitte "mun" eemeli-sisu alle, jossa oli joku 11 kuutioo dieseliä kyydissä ja lähettiin tiedustelemaan. Vähän oli ahtaita paikkoja puiden väleissä ja pehmeetä, mutta päästiin. 30min käskynannosta palattiin takaisin ja keskustelu käytiin:
kok: No miten on, pääseekö siitä autolla?
-Juu pääsee, mutta portterit saattaa jäädä kiinni
kok: Mistäs sen tiiätte?
-No ku meinas sisukin jäädä... Pehmeetä on.
kok: Siis te menitte autolla?? No...jaa olishan se pitäny arvata ku autosotamiehen laittaa asialle. No hyvä, pistetään maantievehkeet sitte toista reittiä...
@@forzer45 :D :D :D
Best wishes to Finland from England.
i also from englandshire
@@Kingthere learn english sire
@@wira3359 satire
@@Kingthere ok sire
Well Done! Finland is brave and willing to defend its country with all its strength! Best Wishes from the USA!
As a former US Marine, I am impressed with Finish military conscription, training and product. I enjoyed watching the process and believe the Finnish Military to be an first rate military.
Naurattaa aina nuo ensimmäinen herätys kun oli niin hiljasta ja rauhallista. Meillä ensimmäisen aamu oli lähestulkoon kun joku olis singolla ampunut oven auki ja alko rääkyminen :D E-jaksolla siirryttiin muualle niin kahta kauheempi sessio :D
+nokkapokka Meillä rentoutu P-kauden jälkee
Filmeissä on aina rauhallinen eka aamu ja kaikki kuin Tarja Halonen itse olisi ollut selän takana katsomassa.
En tiedä onko miten paljon muuttunut meno nykyään, mutta sama homma oli meillä 2010. Ensimmäinen aamu ja heti välittömästi "komppaniassa herätys!" -huudon jälkeen alikit potkaisi oven auki, pisti valot päälle ja tulivat rummuttamaan sänkyjen päätyjä "ylös sängystä!!!" -huutojen säestämänä. :D Oli lievä shokki!
Jaahas vai terveelliset palvelusolosuhteet... ei yks tuttu pystyny suorittamaa palvelusta koska oli liikaa hometta seinissä...
Jep alokaskaudella oli kyllä lepuuttaminen kaukana. Aamutoimet alikkien vetämänä, hampaittenpesuun 5 sekuntia aikaa...
The Finns are smart and make very good soldiers. They are like the British in that they punch well above their weight as the Russians found out in the winter war.
Respect from Norway 🇳🇴
Tuolle yhdelle pojan nossikalle vastaukseksi: Suomen armeijan rk on oikeissa käsissä oikein käytettynä erittäin tarkka ja tappava laite. Rk:lla pystyy ampumaan 9/10 laukauksesta rintaan aina 300m asti. Eikä todellakaan tarvitse mitään 2min tähtäyksiä. Pientä harjoittelua niin tuohon pystyy jokainen kuka haluaa.
Kari Hurskainen Näin ampumaradalla. Tositoimissa vihulainen hötkyy niin ettei Rk:n reikätähtäimellä saada sitä kunnolla hollille. Ratakivääri se on.
+peabase Paskapuhetta. Ihan hyvin nuo tähtäimet toimii tositilanteessakin. Muun muassa M-16, M-4, FN Fal, G3 ja Galil -kivääreissä on vastaavat tähtäimet. Näitä aseita on käytössä konflikteissa ympäri maailmaa ja hyvin pelaa. Afrikan puskasodissa ja Kaakois-Aasian viidakoissakin. Miksei Suomessa? Sitäpaitsi molemmissa RK:issa on mahdollisuus käyttää avotähtäimiä reikätähtäimen sijaan. Erinomainen kivääri. Edelleenkin.
qelleri On reikätähtäimiä ja reikätähtäimiä. Valmetin takatähtäin on selvästi peittävämpi kuin esim. AR-rynkkyjen. Se onko Valmetit vielä käyttökelpoista tavaraa on taas aivan eri juttu. Sitä en mene kiistämään. On kuitenkin tyhmää olla myöntämättä käytössä ilmenneitä puutteita.
Saahan niihin punapisteen kun ostaa, eikä ole edes hyvin kalliita. Testattu on reserviläis RK:ssa, on paljon helpompi tähdätä ja nopeammin saa laukauksen jälkeen uudelleen jyvälle. Jollain ns. halpis punapisteellä jo tekee hyvin kasan tauluun ja etuna on siis edelleen että voi ampua todella nopeaa, lähes sarjatulimaista tulta sohimatta paljonkaan ohi. Recommended, jos tietäis että sota alkaa niin melkein tilais ittelleen kiskot ja sellatteen etukäteen. :P
Päästiin kerran radalle ampumaa vv2000:lla, joissa on punapistetähtäin. Sillä ei vaan yksinkertasesti voi ampua kympin ohi
Toki venäjällä on lihaa ja kalustoa hieeman enemmän, mut ei suurta osaa siitä kuitenkaan suomea vastaan voi pistää. Venäjällä on paljon rajanaapureita ja paljon sitä rajaa jota pitää valvoa. Se riittää että suomi tekee valtauksen sen verran hankalaksi hyötyyn nähden että ei tänne kannata iskeä
juu ei venäjä tänne tuu,ollaan kuitennii frendejä,ja he tietää,arvostaa meiän puolustusta,ollaan venäjälleki pohjoisen kilpi,asiat muuttuu jos liitytään natoon,urpot ei tajuu sitä
@@juhiskolkki792 En tiedä mikä sun käsitys "frendistä" on mut mun mielestä keskiverto "frendi" ei tee ilmatilaloukkauksia joka toinen tunti.
@Tosik You think Finland would do better without an army? The only force that has ever threatened us, is on East from our border so I don't think we have to worry about Tomahawk missiles too much.
Toki 5v vanha kommentti ja näin, mutta Suomi kestäisi yksin Venäjää vastaan kaksi viikkoa avointa sotaa ennen kuin jouduttaisiin antautumaan. Ja tämä on se optimistisin arvio. Jos Venäjä oikeasti haluaisi tämän maapläntin niin ei meillä ihan hirveästi olisi sananvaltaa asiaan. Niillä on kuitenkin "nopean toiminnan joukkoja" joku puoli miljoonaa tuossa rajan tuntumassa että kannattaa sekin huomioida.
seuraava sota tuskin tulee olemaan niinku vanhat sodat. Ei tarvi kun katkasta sähköt tai iskee sähkönjakeluun niin koko maa olis iha sekasin ei vettä, kommunikaatio mahollisuuksia ei oikeestaan mitään😆 tai sit virus tai joku muu kemiallinen ase tai pommi ja siinä se oli.
Aivan mahtava video! 👍🇫🇮
Me ei vaan ymmärretä meidän kovuutta.
Me Ollaan todella kovia!
Kiitos teille ketä olette käynyt INTIN!!!!
Me suomalaiset ollaan usein maanläheisiä ja reiluja tyyppejä. Arvostetaan rehellisyyttä sekä luontoa. Mutta tosipaikan tullen kaikista löytyy se sammumaton kipinä puolustaa ja suojella. Olkaa ylpeästi suomalaisia, meitä ei hirveän paljon ole tällä pallolla.
@ZepexFIN Voidaan puolustaa viimeiseen suomalaiseen asti.
@Vladimir Putinin trollit taas saastuttanu tämänkin kommenttiosion :D
@Vladimir Terveisiä sinno.
Ihan mahtava video, vaikka intti oli silloin aika perseestä en voi väittää ettenkö olisi oppinut mitään tai etten olisi kehittynyt ihmisenä. Enemmän hyviä kuin huonoja muistoja. Kannattaa mennä vaikka isoveli pelotteliski.
Kait toi riippuu niin paikasta. Itse ainakin rakastin intti aikaani, ja rakastan edelleen. Mutta palveluspaikka ohjusvene, missä oli 4-6 varusmiestä ja 26++ skapparii. Joten nämä herrottelut oli aika vähillä. Lähimmät esimiehet lt ja yliluti oli vaan Pode ja Repe :)
itelle tuli pommina tuo lomahomma sodankylässä ku eka gines oli 16 päivää :D
oli se puolen vuoden jälkeen mukava pilistellä masilla kassun reittejä
Mikä olit intis
Mä haluaisin olla lääkintä panssarivaunun kuski
I got news next year, my family and I will be movig to Finland. I would love to serve in the Finnish Army as Infantry. :D
+Tomislav Kraljic How old are you? If you are more than 29, you cannot do the service anymore.
Awesome. Youre all welcome to Finland
If you are motivated to integrate, I think it would be a good place to start. It can be tough, but you'll learn the language and gain lifelong friends. If you are capable of doing your part that is.
I'm glad you want to integrate here and go to the army, I wish every immigrant thought that way.
Wtf
Finno-Ugric brothers 😊👍🏻
Finland, Estonia, Hungary
Finland Estonia Hungary Korea Turkey Kırgzhstan kazakhstan turkemistan azerbaycan japan :)
Umm, Japan??? Turkey?? Wtf no way
Mongoria!
How about nowadays? Hungarians bashing Finland publicly.
Awesome, all the best from Lithuania
Happy independende Day, Suomi!
A bit early on that one, indepence day is today, and it's the day finland has been independent for a 100 years!
I laughed loud and hard at the mention of the importance of logistics. 80 days into their "special operation " into Ukraine, the Russians are still trying to grasp a rudimentary mastery of logistics.
The defence capability is kept mostly for political leverage. A country which has no defence capability and which can not secure its territorial integrity has to do more or less what the more powerful neighbor(s) like. A country with defence capability may make all kinds of political decisions, without asking permission from anyone.
Yea, but why those who do not serve (EQUAL women) are permited to do decisions (Female ministers and deputies)
Doesn't that sort of describe the purpose of all militaries?
+Percy Danvers It does, but not all. Theres one's not only for defense **cough** U.S **cough** Russia
Women already serve the country by giving birth to new conscripts. And also by paying tax when men are trained.
Old comment but Finnish women can serve but it's volunteer based
Go on Finns, Viipuri awaits for liberation! Aswell our Lwów...
Declare independence if you want that. The Finnish military is a defence force, and Finland is big enough country for our small population. It's not coming "to liberate" anyone.
The best year of my life! I pity the foreigners who don't have an access to this possibility and to experience these challenges. And getting back into civilian, everything just seems so easy afterwards.
Terry Lynn what exactly do you find to be good in conscription?
you don't have to pity us, i would never want to participate in this kind of modern slavery.
Alexandr Šidelka Finns find nice to spend lifetime while equal women enjoy their youth. Blatant discrimination if roles were reversed we would seem mass female protests
I think most of us Finns who served our bit for the common fatherland understand that it was a neccessary sacrifice made for the good of the community. Maybe it is a bit too altruistic for the greedy modern individualist you seem to be. Conscription is a valid option to organize a considerable defence for a low population country with huge landmass - and a superpower neighbor.
It doesn't make it fair, still.
What do you mean? It is just a matter of how you organize your society. Some people would say paying taxes to feed the poor and maintain roads etc. is unfair. We settled with conscription that is mandatory for males because it is efficient. I dont think that a system including mandatory female conscription would work because of physical differences between the sexes.
It doesnt always need to be fair, men here are willing to take responsibility of the defence of our great nation and sacrifice months and years of our lives for that purpose. I understand that this is not a common thing in western societies anymore.
Awesome army, navy and airforce. //Your neighbour in the west
thanks and by the way how is the west Finland doing these days;)
Five years ago, I broke my back in service, I was high on pain medicine for a week. I could not sleep for a week and when they finally sent me home they were mad because I had lost one pair of socks and I didn't lose them, they were stolen.
How's that PTSD going on you?
Inttitraumoja voi voi
it was such a great year as a paratrooper
I would have cried every day and probably got a mental breakdown within a week
Real
I was a conscript in Estonia, it was pretty fun. Spent 11 months in "Kuperjanov". In the moment, when you are fully wet by the rain, in the dark forest, without being allowed to use a flashlight, and having a 30kg (~65lb) backpack with you, being yelled at, its.. a bad time then. But looking back at it, it was a really good experience.
@@Seersant idk what is good about this, seems more like something called euphoric memory rather than “good experience”. And it’s low key sociopathic to assume it’s a good thing to force unwilling people to undergo this torture
@@PAULSGEO Well, this is just your perspective. If you grow up in a country, where your older close relatives have been abducted to Russia, your country has been invaded by Russia and so on, its a pretty honorable thing to serve your time. If you are a healthy individual, you will be fine. It grows a pair of balls on a man and not one person i personally know (and served with) disliked the military. Of course i must say, that i provided a really dark memory from the past (that's now cool to reflect on), but there were so many beautiful times with newly made friends too. Calling the whole military experience torture is a bit much. And this documentary is also 10 years old, nowadays the mil experience is also easier. Estonia and Finland both have conscription services because it is necessary for our freedom.
I do get where you are coming from though, but most Estonians see the military conscription as a good thing, my Finnish brothers haven't complained too much either :D
@@Seersant Yeah, they don’t complain, because if they do the society downvotes them to oblivion. The society creates such overwhelming pressure on an individual that it seems like avoiding the service is a crime or smth. It’s just that they are scared to complain because people would call them cowards and etc… Overall the militant propaganda glamorizing conscription, pushing it everywhere… it’s a mess and it’s very discriminatory.
I do understand your history and I relate to your experience with Russia, my country was also occupied and economically ruined by the Soviet Union. HOWEVER, there’s no moral justification to just force people into blind patriotic obedience and unquestionable loyalty. It’s absolutely disgusting and dehumanizing bulls**t. I don’t care for what reason your country is doing this, putting people into prison like places without their permission is just utterly disgusting. It assumes that all men (men only, while Estonia seems to be a progressive country supporting equal rights) are not free beings with rights to their own bodies, who must sign their life to the government as a mere recourse
CONSCRIPTION = SL@V€R¥
Ainoa kunnon käytännön johto siviilissä:
Lääkintä, sotilaspoliisi, tekninen huolto, suojelu, kuljetus, muonahuolto, pastorit.
Sitten ne erikoisjoukkojen häiriintyneet kivat tyypit, jotka ovat persoonia jo sinänsä...
Hey I'm from England but also I'm half Finnish and I'm going to be doing my national service when I'm 18 but I only speak English is that a problem? I'm willing to learn Finnish and sure I'll pick it up as I go
+Toby mackenzie U won't be the first nor the last whose doing his military service as english as his only language. Finns do speak english pretty well so your service mates will surely teach u ;) That being said, imo u should try to learn at least a bit of the language before u go so u wont come across as a total tool at the beginning since the orders are usually given in finnish.
+Toby mackenzie We had a canadian in our unit, you can do it. You wont regret it.
+Toby mackenzie You should contact Mr. Alan Smith, the Englishman that did his service with us not too long ago. yle.fi/uutiset/brittipoika_halusi_kayda_armeijan_suomessa__hellyttava_syy/8371623
+Toby mackenzie Hello Toby. Almost everybody in Finland speaks quire good English so that shouldnt be any problem. Its nice to hear youre interested servicing in Finland. Do you any ideas where are you going and what would want to do?
+Toby mackenzie Respect! (Y)
Ukraine could do with as much help as possible on all aspects of winter warfare. Everybody as a idea but Finland are the experts and knows every little detail, tactics and logistics and to apply these. Thank you.
@Denis Morgan There is as cold in northern/eastern Ukraine than in Finland.
Gross failures in winter fighting are more to do with sergeants not enforcing strict foot care dicipline, poor winter clothing, poor lodgings, insufficient diet (you need easily 1000-1500 ADDITIONAL calories), and above all, lack of hot drink/food in combat area (you cant survive on cold rations for long, no matter how big they are).
Finns hauled field kitchens to almost front lines, even further than light mortars. Men got hot meals and hot coffee just before combat, and on to slash enemy they went.
Complexities of fighting successfully in wintertime, and keeping your men healthy, really seems way, way too much to ask for incompetent russian army. Mistakes get magnified expotentially in subzero combat.
In general success comes with well working logistics, and NCOs enforcing strict dicipline of self monitoring. In many cases, NCO must visually inspect feet of every soldier on his command every day or 2.
Soldier might not understand what it means that his sore feet suddenly feels just fine. Can run faster than for weeks.
It means your have got your feet frozen...
Under duress unit must work together. An squad will build cozy shelter to keep them warm through night easily.
If left to own devices, invidual soldiers are barely alive in morning after minus 20 centigrade night.
Ukrainian Army knows all the "secrets".
The real secret is dicipline. Vast majority of cold casualties are pure negligence.
Russian jailbirds and mobilization troops are ripe to be plucked, when they start to drop dead in freezing cold.
@@kimmoj2570 these are lessons to be learned, considering Finland didn't lose it would be a valuable lesson.
Hienosti esitelty 👍🇫🇮
I can't wait
Kun omissa kutsunnoissa osan tästä videosta näin niin en kyllä olis arvannu kuinka perkelleen ikävä tuota hommaa sitä tulleekaan.
Tuttuja naamoja, myös allekirjoittanut ! Hienoja aikoja
hyvä propakanda video tykkäsin!
Katos USA:n, Venäjän ja Kiinan kutsuntamainokset. USA: female empowerment. Venäjä: maskuliininen urheilumainos Kiina: meillä on kaikkea kymmenin kappalein
@@ratyjoona näin just vartti sitten hyvä ajotus :D
Salute and greetings from Germany.
We love Finland
Lauri Elsilä Ei ole
I see that beacouse you guys are filling our country
Ismaıl Durdu thank you :)
Just stay there.
Don't come here with your shit religion
If I am only part Finnish, cant speak Finnish, have never been to Finland but still have my Finnish passport, am I still liable for conscription?
Short answer: Probably yes. More information can be found here: varusmies.fi/en/frontpage
and here (page 17): puolustusvoimat.fi/documents/1948673/2258487/MAAVE_Varusmiesopas_2016_EN/1c0dc0d4-4a8a-41cc-b020-5150ed88171e
Puolustusvoimat - Försvarsmakten - The Finnish Defence Forces Great, thank you!
If you feel for your motherland
My friend is from Taiwan, he had never been in Finland or anything and didnt speak finnish a single word but he is finnish citizen and had finnish passport he had to go to finnish army. he is super nice guy and he did great, in Finland most people speak english also so it wasnt problem. :D
JOXi if you are under 28 then you can volunteer
when i was army there was one german guy who was done that
I remember when i was watching this first time like 2 years before going to army. It feels so weird to watch this now 3 months after my military service in Lapland
Hyvää itsenäisyyspäivää Suomi!
Finland army very good!!
Welp, since my Finnish friend is in the army, I now know what will happen to him.
The irony of this video is that if the army is mobilized for some reason, it will take a lot of people out of "Normal" life it vows to preserve.
Can i enter to the army if im not from finland? I live in finland 2 years ago and i am not that bad at finnish, i am 15 years old
Finnish defence forces are one of the top in the world, tho its still smaller.
Asento! Mahtavaa, lepo.
Minä menin inttiin kesäkuussa 1982. Tuohon aikaan oli äijä jos meni kännissä inttiin, viimeisellä minuutilla ennen myöhästymissyytettä ja niinhän minä tein. Eka aamupesun, n. 1,5 minuuttia, käytin veden juomiseen suoraan hanasta. Pikkasen nauratti kaverit jotka alkoivat pestä hampaitaan tahnan kanssa, mutta eivät ehtineet huuhtoa suutaan kun jo oltinn takaisin tuvassa, harjoittelemassa punkan tekoa. No, ajat ovat muuttuneet ja hyvä niin.
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Best wishes to finland from indonesia. Its realy cool metode to training conscription.
7:28 Nuuska huulessa. Respect! :)
No kellä ny intis ei ois :D
XDDDDD respect for laughters XDDD
I would recommend we add a group of training recruits a group of ages between 29-65 For those who have not gone through military training or have gone through consientious objection of various styles who have decided to actually go through the military after first refusing it.
The new group would probably be a few hundred a year, i would also recommend necessary military service for women, thats about the major points ive noticed.
Mornings! :)
Ahhh Finland .... you are so cool!
My Finnish Friends!! ive been trough the military!! But to survive, you have to be smart!!! Just Be smart!!! Dont bee fuckin around!!!
ElbigboY I'm only half finnish and I can't speak the language. Will this be difficult on me for the army?
If your native language is English, you won't have any problems. Everyone speaks decent English, including the training staff, conscript leaders and your fellow recruits. Nobody will be judged or picked for having a language disadvantage.
The units often gather all non-Finnish speakers together in the same sleeping rooms, and they will train as a single group as well. so they only have to explain things in English for one group.
You will have an experience you will remember the rest of your life. Of course you and your service mates will sometimes be so tired and pissed off that you will enter a status BEYOND being pissed off, and just laugh.
The same tactic as Russia occupied 10 % of Finland and still didnt return to finns russian use in russian -Ukraine war. They says that help finnish people) World do nothing to stop russians invaders..
pääseekö perunan nostolomalle ?
I wish my country would bring back service duty. Dangerous times are ahead.
Tarvii sanoo et oli hauska kokemus jos ei ota huomioon kolme ekaa viikkoa ilman lomaa ja KH kaudella 4 viikon kipeänä olemista. Kauemminkin olis voinu olla #347AUK
Kukaan muu menossa inttiin tammikuussa 2021??
Stay strong Finnish Brothers and Sisters!The Russians are watching your every move just like they are here in the US.Right now we here a closet Muslim sympathizer for a president who got reelected by a lot of stupid people.Keep training and keep your country safe.
You're a funny man.
Laugh now because you may have to pay later.I hope you find it funny.
***** F-22s? That's a sure-fire way of wasting limited defence funds. No matter how effective, even vastly inferior Russian aircraft would simply overwhelm them. More AMRAAMs for the existing FAF F-18s is a better way to go. Harpoons wouldn't go amiss either.
***** The unit cost of a F-22 is $412M. That of a F/A-18A/B/C/D with all the bells and whistles is $57M.The operating cost of the F-22 is $61k/h, that of the F/A-18 $16k/h. Do I need to go on? OK, the F-22 is out of production and export controls prohibit selling used ones abroad, rendering the whole discussion moot.
***** So far I'm not impressed with your up-to-dateness. It's only a matter time -- by some estimates, 5 to 10 years -- before the stealth features of the F-35 are rendered ineffective by sophisticated SAM systems. The stealthier F-22 might fare better in this respect, but it won't be on hand, will it?
Good stuff.. I suspect next to none of it needed except for that one thing.. Starts with a 'R', ends with a 'A'..
Veeery funny..
gurney85 Well, we know what happened last time, but this time they will not underestimate Finland.
What is this Finland-Russia interest? What Russia has to do with Finland's territory at all?? I really don't get it. The only tension is made up by people's mind and someone high up. No one has interest in these nonsense talks.
judiccc Well, Finland and Sweden are getting some closer ties with NATO which is concerning Russia highly. If Russia invaded the Nordic countries they would have two angles of America. A war on two fronts. So everything is not nonsense in this.
judiccc review not so distant history my friend , Russia invaded Finland in 1939.. a typically brazen act of aggression demanding the concession of land it wanted.
No other nation in the history of human civilization has owned a land mass the size of Russia and it brutishly bullies neighbors to give it what it wants or takes it by force. Russia doesn't want allies or equals, its never had that and has never ever functioned internally as such, it's for lack of a clearer term, an autocracy if ever there was one.
To ignore the character and history of your bully-boy neighbor would simply be foolish for Finland to do if long-term it wishes to stay Finland or else not a vassal state.
A nation of the population size of Finland I'm sure would much rather spend it's resources and hard earned money enjoying the finer things in life and taking their ease, but they know their history, their neighborhood and the enormity of that shared border.. They'd be fools that deserved their fate if they chose to put their heads in the sand.
Minä tiedän , että lentäjäksi on pituusraja ja minä olen jo ylittänyt sen. Mutta onko johinkin muuhun ryhmään pituusraja?
Minulla ei ole suomen kansalaisuutta, mutta olen asunut ja opiskellut koko ikäni suomessa. Voinko minä littyä asepalvelukseen?
Daniel Lopez kyllä, jos saat kansalaisuuden.
Sinne vaan. Ei muuta kun aamuja.
I increased weight 20 kilograms when serving Finnish artillery
Good doughnuts?
And I gained muscle serving in recon. :P
Yleinen asevelvollisuus on paras! Me, suomalaiset asevelvolliset osaamme kaiken. Ilman tietokoneita, ulkoa. Jotkut suomalaiset pääsivät jo 1995 Pentagonin koneisiin, mutta eihän niistä puhuttu, kun testattiin niitä surkeita GPS-laitteita :-)
no ei kyl ainakaan spol 2004 päässy lomille ku joka kolmas viikko :D
Tohti82 Sama vika SPOL 2013 :D
+nokkapokka sama vika spol 2015
+Tohti82 Sama vika gona-lämy 2/14 LapJPR
Sama vika.. paitsi että joka toinen viikonloppu. Merivalvoja 1/2017 RPR
Sama vika Säkylä spol 1/17 :D
Olen toiminut vuosia reserviläistoiminnassa. Aina harjoitellaan rakennukseen menoa. Jos ryssä hyökkää Suomeen niin miksi se jää yhteen rakennukseen odottamaan tappamistaan? Miksi ei harjoitella puolustamaan kaupungin reuna alueita sekä sisääntulo kaistoja. Eli meneeko speznats odottamaan huoneeseen että suomalaiset tulevat? Kertokaa joku onko venäläisten päätavoite linnottautua johonkin huoneeseen?
eddie123 Speznats yleensä pyrkii linnottautumaan joko kodinhoitohuoneisiin tai yläkerran suihkutiloihin, jos semmoisia on. Se jää niihin tiloihin väijymään siksi että niissä usein on lattialämmitys, mikä varsinkin talvella pitää speznatsin lämpimänä. :)
eddie123 Olet aivan oikeassa. Tuollainen huoneenvyörytys sopii lähinnä joihinkin spollehommiin, mutta nyt kaikki kaljamahat luulevat tuhoavansa vihollisen lähitaistelussa rakennuksissa. Oikeasti kaupunkitaisteluissa olisi isoja hommia ja vihollisen asemat tuhottaisiin isoilla pyssyillä. Tavanomainen poteropuolustustaistelu ja sen harjoittelu ei vain ole seksikästä.
eddie123 Mitähän helvettiä se ryssä siitä metsien valtaamisesta hyötyy? Todellisuus on se että kaupunkeja täytyy puolustaa ja suurimmat taistelut käytäisiin taajamissa/kaupungeissa.
nokkapokka
Katsos kun se ryssä ei pääse meidän kaupunkeihin kulkematta Itä-Suomen metsien läpi. Puolustajalla on etuoikeus valita taistelukenttänsä, jos toimii oikein. Pelkät maahanlaskut ilman hyökkäystä maitse eivät tule onnistumaan.
DADAA.Meille sanottiinkin että räjäytetään ryssät hengiltä. Sori ryssän kätyrit........
Conscript reporting
Harmittaa kun on keskivaikea kuulovamma niin en usko pääseväni kutsunnoista läpi :(
***** Kyllä kriisiaikana on paljon muutakin tärkeää tekemistä kuin maata poterossa ase kädessä.
Sivarejaki tarvitaan. Harmi ettei naisetki joudu sinne tasa-arvon nimessä.
"Autisti" sanoo yks😂😂😂😂
Onnea poika! Et joudu inttii!
Itselläni oli ala-aste ikäisenä todettu rasitus astma. Vaadin saada palvella A-miehistössä. Terveisin Ilmavoimien sotilaspoliisi kurssilta numero yksi vuodelta -97.
Sain jopa kultaisen ampumerkin. Meitä olikin se kaksi koko sotilaspoliisi komppaniasta joka sen onnistui saamaan.
Do Finnish National Serviceman get to keep their gun after their service?
*****
No we don't...
Toveri Juri I am from the U.S.
Are you saying you cannot own a Valmet type rifle when you leave service? Not the one you had during service, but can't you buy one at gun store?
Aaron Mings
Conscription has very little to do with gun ownership here. Civilians are prohibited from owning automatic weapons. There are semi-automatic versions of the same rifle we use in the army for civilian use, but... Well.
Gun ownership has been made extremely annoying and difficult in this country after two cases of school shootings. Funny enough with our current gun laws both of those school shooters would have still owned a gun.
Aaron Mings
In theory yes but full auto weapons require an hard to get special permit. Also that gun is not anymore in production an costs at least 2000 € in a gunshop. Besides how often does one need rapid fire anyway?
I'd rather recommend buying a Maxim MG if you have the permit and the money.
At least I was told that I could buy my service weapon after the service ended. The thing is that the automatic firing mechanism would get disabled at that point by the gunsmith. Civilians are not allowed to own automatic rifles here in Finland. I didn't buy because I had no need for it. And I would have needed to get a permit for it as well.
If i move to Finland can i do this military service? Even if i have no family ties to Finland?
If you get citizenship before age 30.
Finns what forces have parachute qualification or what force is jumping in this video?
The Finnish name is laskuvarjojääkäri (translates as parashoot jäger), they belong into ground forces (army), airborne troops. They're trained in Utin jääkärirykmentti (jäger regiment in Utti).
If you want to use online translation fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskuvarjoj%C3%A4%C3%A4k%C3%A4ri
100 years of Finland 6/12/2017
FInland is one of the few countries ill still visit with all this "activity" going around. All vets get a long, lol.
Wow that's a impressive armed forced. Well organised, trained and equipped, the amount of modern weapons, no under spent army here.
This here is like a trailer video. Of cource they just show the best parts. In reality, the army is in strugle because there are not enough military refreshers for the entire reserve. Finland does have a rather good defence force compared to it's size, but it lacks the ability to stop a very fast, modern invasion.
I know this is a bit off subject but Germany is thinking about bringing back conscription, if that doesn't you something what does ?
Finnish army should be better trained and of course prepared for any event. Finland needs to review it's military alliance soon and make the process fast, time can't wasted. Being neutral isn't wise, look at Ukraine.
Resident evil Here is the kind of army Finland needs; 100 000-140 000 soldiers, no mandatory service, better airforce, better navy, better ground arsenal, NATO membership. With these things, Finland would be safe.
Does Germany have the right system? Do they use profeccional army, or voluntary reservearmy? Finland should use voluntary reservearmy.
That is quiet a dramatic structural change, I would be look for a much bigger reserve force 300,000, just look at Israel. I agree extra spending in equipment is a must, no question about it. Could Finland and Sweden agree to combined forces, where each army would be in either country, sharing resources plus more spending power, they should be.
As far as Germany is concerned, conscripts aren't the complete answer, it needs to bolster it's active army, considering it's size not a home guard? No question about it has the weapons, but doesn't sadly use the power at it resource, needs to training more and be more pro active, bit of a dark horse.
Woops, a break down on my numbers for Finland, reviewed. I should have looked at stats first. Dose Finland have the budget for over 100,000 active soliders. The reserves I have just doubled to add sheer bulk or would more special units be better suited, it worked in the past ?
Active armed forces - ;80,000
Reserves - 700,000
What you guys think about joining NATO? Or you worry what will Russia say about that?
Mun kaverin isoveli ei piitannut siitä että missä ollaan ja mitkä olivat käskyt vaan menee pelleilee ja ampuu sinne tänne se ei ole hyvän sotilaan merkki ite oon ampunut aseella aika vähän mutta silloin mökillä maalitauluun
P E R K E L E
Onkos tää kuvattu Kajaanin prikaatilla ja Kajaanissa?
Finnish army is very strong for such a small country, but the navy is too weak, they have to improve it.
They are building 4 corvettes by 2020.
Archipelago, we really know. How to fight there. We do not need big battleship!!!!!
Everything big, easy to destroy.
You can’t hide a submarine near to Finland, you can’t even release a fart in Finnish territorial seas without we knowing it straight away. Finnish coast guard are so good and we have enough weapons to put down Any battleship 😃
Why? We don't have colonies behind seas.
Best wishes from Russia 🇷🇺 we are brothers
We Will never be brothers!
whole existance of our conscripiton is to protect from russians
*dont mind us just casually being better than the Russians*
Sufi Muslim Lion Finland didn't ask Trump for help. They talked about alliance if a war breaks out.....
The Finnish "Army" looks as disorganized as the Russian army in the 90s.
@@levvy3006 excess discipline isn't needed if the soldiers are motivated and do their job, like it currently is in Finland. Discipline pops up in the system only when right things don't happen as expected.
@balle At least they have the will
I would prefer volunteer than conscription but i understand finland does not have enough man power. i hope finland have good mental support for soldier
Conscripts in Finland do not go to war except on their own soil. The best mental support is, like someone said, you get to meet people from all walks of life in the service.
Rich and poor, black and white, muslim and christian, all sleep in same quarters and learn to work together.
@@Kenguruhlearn to be little obedient peasants deprived of their basic human liberties
War is hell...people o went to war have physical and mental issues for life...but in case of self defense every Suomi soldier have duty to have Simo Hayha numbers too.
Olisi tuon voinut paremminkin englannistaa..
Pioneeri on COMBAT engineer, corps on yleensä "troopsia" parempi sana jne...
Fins still use 7.62x39 caliber??
Yes. Switching to other popular calibers do not offer enough advantages to scrap a million rifles and billions of stocked ammunition.
the finnish language looks like the language in Far cry primal 😂😂
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Jos suomeen tulee sota niin mun serkun isä on tarjoilemassa siellä ruokaa
I want to join the finnish special forces when i get older
Make sure you are in great shape when you enter service, qualifications for it are hard.
@@duhni4551 i know i have checked them many times and i have planned it through
@@danielalanen4814 Then i wish the very best luck for you in your work =)
@@duhni4551 thx
I'm currently here in Jäger Corps, And trust me, you want to start lifting, I had a bad time for a while because I was so weak and underweight
bagi yg ga tau conscripts itu apa, conscripts itu adalah wajib militer semacam resimen mahasisswa kalo di indonesia
Tätä sit jankattii 4 tuntia kutsunnois. Niska ja pää oli kipee ja nää videot pauhas taustal ja sit ne videot loppu ja olin sillee et"aaah ihana hiljasuus" ja eiku joku saakeli soikoo menee pistää ne videot uudellee pyörii😂😂😂😂😂
awesome, wish I can join even though I am an American citizen
You have your own military?
@@k3kboi665 I don't think dying in a shithole desert for Israel is really appealing to anyone...
@@litfurher4206 neither is being a slave for 6-12 months.
@@k3kboi665 I mean, at least you're not dying in a shithole. We are also at least serving to defend our country, not serving to occupy other countries.
@@k3kboi665 Also, duty=/=slavery.
Komppaniassa Herätys!!!
Think what you want of me, but I belong to the fraction who believes that the army makes a man out of you and that conscription is needed in the case of defense or when the army hasn't enough volunteers
My favorite bird f18 growler
Finnish people. Run army. no joke no regret
I need to learn Finnish! 💪
Have you learnt English yet hehe
Why not clone Simo Hayha?5000 Simo Hayhas should ensure total defense.
11:59 onko se saakeli Vatane?
Oha se
In Russia I always hear V and Z when they talk here in Finland they always use T