Your knowledge has helped me more than you know. Thank you sir. When I enjoy meat on the table I silently give thanks to the knowledge you have passed on. Really appreciate it
I’ve actually came to my stand to find deer under my tree stand and a lot of times they come back; usually before dark on an afternoon hunt. My respect to the man making the video anyway. I’ve learned a lot from him.
Not impossible. But not typical either. If it was the same deer that came back, you likely had the thermals working in your favor, or the deer were young and uneducated on getting downwind. Most times, a mature deer will get down wind of the area before coming back to a place it’s spooked out of
Which is another tip. If you walk in, especially if you’re using a climber or saddle setup, and jump a buck or something. Set up about 100 or so yards down wind of where you jumped him out of. Sometimes, you can catch them later in the day circling back down wind to re-enter his bedding area
Ha, as someone who has shot 17 bucks on PA public land (Allegheny forest), you just have to hunt better 😊. I can't wait to be out there late Nov for my 21st opener since 1993 👍
To further elaborate what he means, the last hour before daylight is normally the coolest time. So your thermals are going downhill until it starts heating up. So if you’re hunting a ridge side with bedding below, your thermals are gonna drop down to them. Try to get there RIGHT at daylight. Also, walk in without a flashlight if possible
I shot my two biggest bucks before I could set down in my stand. One at 11am and other at 3pm. You’re right. They didn’t have time for my scent to hit them. Thanks for another great tip.
I walk in to my stand in the dark with headlamp. Walked right past whitetail deer within 20 ft. As long as you don’t stop they just stand there. They get a bit fixated with your light and they feel safer in the dark. I’ve also had bucks walk straight up my trail footprints in the snow and not give a rip about my footprint scent left just 30 minutes prior. I also marinate my outer clothes in a bag with alfalfa pellets all year long.
I hunted Saturday evening up on a ridge top overlooking a bench, a bedding area edge and transition between a picked corn field and neibors alfalfa salad bar only to find out my Dad was walking all around in there last couple days picking up turkey feathers😵💫
Usually that's a die bedding area and also a staging area for bucks...do for me, I would only hunt 1 side of it, or access thru the woods early and hunt the backside of the bedding area with my scent blowing away from the field direction
What’s your view on this. I have to walk through a bean field to hunt my best spot in the morning. Most of the time there are doe in the field eating in that timeframe. Is it worth bumping them? Or should I just save the spot for the evening?
One of my 2 private spots to hunt has deer bedded all through the 30 acres I have to hunt there. I get busted walking to the stand anytime I try and hunt mornings. Advice? It’s all wooded except powerline right of way with a nice sized pond and our property ends right before large cornfield
Appreciate the feedback regardless. Keep up the awesome videos Been implementing your strategies and am looking forward to telling you about my success!
I've had the same problem, started going out at 9 am after the neighbors are in they're stands,and deer are bedded, when the neighbors all get down at noon, I killed a 12 pointer last year like this trying to slip away from neighbors noise
If the leafs are wet or it's a windy morning, wait til sunrise and still hunt your way to your stand. Or just don't hunt the morning and go out when most hunters are going to lunch. I see alot of mature buck midday every November. Or since you know where the bedding areas are change stand locations and play the wind. Sound like you got a nice piece of property, good luck this season
Well you have to know what the deer are doing in your spot. If you’re hunting between bedding and food, you might wanna get there early. If your hunting between the first food source and water, you can get there just after daybreak to get in before they get up on you
If your in a travel corridor... just before daylight... if u can get there without spooking. If you need to get in front of deer to sit closer to a bedding area, or before they come off the field then get there at least an hour before. If there's daytime movement, or u plan to sneak in for an afternoon feeding, then let the deer get into the woods 1st and settle in. Trail cams, layout of land, and experience will determine.
Yes he goes in after the thermals rise when the sun comes out that way his scent is being blown upwards towards himself. This applies if he suspects the deer are bedded downwind of him in the early morning
This morning I git up the tree 30 mins before light and right when it was about 5 mins before shooting light I stood up and turned to grab my bow off its hook and spooked 3 deer 10 yards in front of me:(
Getting walked in on 7:30-8:30 frustrates me last week in my spot a hour before daylight and two hunters are walking at prime time for when I see deer but it’s public so I can cry cuz I’m broke and it’s not my land 😂
I don't know, but pretty sure morning thermals are falling before daylight and if you don't want deer down wind of you to smell you, I wouldn't be going in when those thermals are falling and drifting down to them. You contradicted yourself in this clip.
This works great if your rich and hunt private. Public "just in time" means walking back to your truck cuz theres no room left for you. Morning thermals suck getting in the dark but its the only way to get to tour spot before someone else.
Actually this is the exact practice I use on public land...check out my PA federal land buck I shot in late Nov this season! Cool thing is...no other hunters seen in 2 days. You don't have to be rich to work hard and get away from other hunters on public land. I don't every year. If you are hunting around other hunters you just aren't working hard enough to find a spot you can have to yourself. Very easy to do...and I do that every season whether I'm hunting PA, OH or MI. Work harder...find new spots...and hunt smart. Those 3 strategies will help you find success no matter what your income status is...or how much $$ your prioritize for hunting each season.
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 what's so funny? I always have deer within 10 yards no matter when I go to my stand. You must be another internet yuppie that buys every sales pitch at cabelas.
Ive heard a long time ago that standing over a smudge in your hunting clothes hides your human scent, and the smoke smell makes the animals curious and less spooked. I think tribes still do it in other parts of the world. I never tried it tho.
I left you a message and you or someone messaged me back and I never heard back from you. It was saying I won something or something like that. You actually left me a phone number to call.
Your knowledge has helped me more than you know. Thank you sir. When I enjoy meat on the table I silently give thanks to the knowledge you have passed on. Really appreciate it
Perfect timing.Thank you.Was just wondering when to go in.Never thought about early scent dispersion..
Me either!
I’ve actually came to my stand to find deer under my tree stand and a lot of times they come back; usually before dark on an afternoon hunt. My respect to the man making the video anyway. I’ve learned a lot from him.
Cool story, bro.
Not impossible. But not typical either. If it was the same deer that came back, you likely had the thermals working in your favor, or the deer were young and uneducated on getting downwind. Most times, a mature deer will get down wind of the area before coming back to a place it’s spooked out of
Which is another tip. If you walk in, especially if you’re using a climber or saddle setup, and jump a buck or something. Set up about 100 or so yards down wind of where you jumped him out of. Sometimes, you can catch them later in the day circling back down wind to re-enter his bedding area
I’d love to pick your brain for a day. Love the videos man! Helpful every year! Hope to be as knowledgeable as you one of these days!
I appreciate that Dakota!
Hunt in Pennsylvania on public land, you don't have to worry about spooking deer. YOU cant spook what isn't there...
they’re there. They’re just hiding in someone’s back yard lol
Ha, as someone who has shot 17 bucks on PA public land (Allegheny forest), you just have to hunt better 😊. I can't wait to be out there late Nov for my 21st opener since 1993 👍
What!
You’re just not hunting right.
There are tons of good bucks in PA.
I personally love the Allegheny.
I find all my Bucks in the Philly area and Burbs 😂😂😂
2F stand up babbyyyyy been smokin bucks in the ANF for 24 years thisll be my 27th this year 💪🤌🤌
Best advice I've mabey ever heard. Great video. I love your content very informative and professional. Keep it up we are loosing our young hunters
To further elaborate what he means, the last hour before daylight is normally the coolest time. So your thermals are going downhill until it starts heating up. So if you’re hunting a ridge side with bedding below, your thermals are gonna drop down to them. Try to get there RIGHT at daylight. Also, walk in without a flashlight if possible
I shot my two biggest bucks before I could set down in my stand. One at 11am and other at 3pm. You’re right. They didn’t have time for my scent to hit them. Thanks for another great tip.
Great tips Jeff!
Keep up the Amazing work you & Dylen do.. 🇨🇦
You’re right it’s about timing and using the topography to sneak in= success👍
We love using the terrain!! HUGE opportunity for success!
How does this apply to public land where you have to saddle or use mobile stands, considering the setup?
I walk in to my stand in the dark with headlamp. Walked right past whitetail deer within 20 ft. As long as you don’t stop they just stand there. They get a bit fixated with your light and they feel safer in the dark. I’ve also had bucks walk straight up my trail footprints in the snow and not give a rip about my footprint scent left just 30 minutes prior. I also marinate my outer clothes in a bag with alfalfa pellets all year long.
Can’t agree more getting ready now Jeff’s right listen guys you will see more deer!
I hunted Saturday evening up on a ridge top overlooking a bench, a bedding area edge and transition between a picked corn field and neibors alfalfa salad bar only to find out my Dad was walking all around in there last couple days picking up turkey feathers😵💫
What about large bedding on large field edge. What time should I access
Usually that's a die bedding area and also a staging area for bucks...do for me, I would only hunt 1 side of it, or access thru the woods early and hunt the backside of the bedding area with my scent blowing away from the field direction
Makes sense really don't have to be there an hour early as long as your as quiet as possible getting in your stand you should be fine!
What’s your view on this. I have to walk through a bean field to hunt my best spot in the morning. Most of the time there are doe in the field eating in that timeframe. Is it worth bumping them? Or should I just save the spot for the evening?
You need to walk the 7 mile back route. You better start your walk around 12:30 am if you want to be there by daybreak.
@2cthetruth or just buy a fat tire ebike
One of my 2 private spots to hunt has deer bedded all through the 30 acres I have to hunt there. I get busted walking to the stand anytime I try and hunt mornings. Advice? It’s all wooded except powerline right of way with a nice sized pond and our property ends right before large cornfield
If you can enter early on the backside it may help...hard to say without knowing your land with an hour discussion or so
Appreciate the feedback regardless. Keep up the awesome videos Been implementing your strategies and am looking forward to telling you about my success!
I've had the same problem, started going out at 9 am after the neighbors are in they're stands,and deer are bedded, when the neighbors all get down at noon, I killed a 12 pointer last year like this trying to slip away from neighbors noise
If the leafs are wet or it's a windy morning, wait til sunrise and still hunt your way to your stand. Or just don't hunt the morning and go out when most hunters are going to lunch. I see alot of mature buck midday every November. Or since you know where the bedding areas are change stand locations and play the wind. Sound like you got a nice piece of property, good luck this season
Cut a nice path and rake the leafs away. Obviously preseason but either way it will make you silent.
So how much time before sunrise are you recommending?
Watch the vid 😊
So get in early, right at daybreak or after morning movement ha that covers all of the morning
Well you have to know what the deer are doing in your spot. If you’re hunting between bedding and food, you might wanna get there early. If your hunting between the first food source and water, you can get there just after daybreak to get in before they get up on you
the biggest question is.... how do you know which strategy to use in which spots... ?
He explained it pretty well?
If your in a travel corridor... just before daylight... if u can get there without spooking. If you need to get in front of deer to sit closer to a bedding area, or before they come off the field then get there at least an hour before. If there's daytime movement, or u plan to sneak in for an afternoon feeding, then let the deer get into the woods 1st and settle in. Trail cams, layout of land, and experience will determine.
Sorry are you saying the deer are "blind" before saying pond swamp? Couldnt catch that im old😂
Ha, maybe? 😁 No...I don't think so
Thermal currents are usually rising in the morning.
Exactly 👍
Right after daybreak...
So you’re saying if your stand is in a spot near a bog, brook, or road that you’ll have an advantage walking in before day light?
The point is going in when the deer aren't there. Those are just examples of physical barriers that might delay the deer coming back into your spot.
I see All the deer on the field I hunt between 7:30 and 9:00 am
Love the weight and the compound. Truly american
I've only been hunting for thirty years
Very cool! Me only 38 years...
I don't farm deer though
I only hunt public land
I rely on other hunters to push the deer to me
Works every year
You said
I don’t want my sent getting downwind of me before daylight
So you’re saying you go in after the thermals rise?
Yes he goes in after the thermals rise when the sun comes out that way his scent is being blown upwards towards himself. This applies if he suspects the deer are bedded downwind of him in the early morning
Thanks for the clarification
His advice is more geared towards private land hunters it seems
This advice is directly geared to anyone who hunts whitetails, as is about all of the deer hunting strategy videos...
Boy, you are in for a treat! There’s a ton of general hunting advice in his WHS playlists on UA-cam 👍well worth your time!
This morning I git up the tree 30 mins before light and right when it was about 5 mins before shooting light I stood up and turned to grab my bow off its hook and spooked 3 deer 10 yards in front of me:(
Man it happens to us all, doesn't mean you ruined your hunt
#1 rule is knowing bedding and wind. Even a bad spot is good with a good wind.
What treestand?
Family Tradition Treestands...USA made with USA Steel in Charlotte MI. Incredible stands. They have been around over 20 years
Getting walked in on 7:30-8:30 frustrates me last week in my spot a hour before daylight and two hunters are walking at prime time for when I see deer but it’s public so I can cry cuz I’m broke and it’s not my land 😂
Find where the deer are pushed into when those lazy hunters come in, that's where you need to be
I'm not lazy
I'm in the saddle two hours before daylight
Sleeping
So I'm good
That's 2 hours you can spook deer before daylight and ruin your hunt before shooting hours begin...
Not being lazy doesn't mean good hunting 😉
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I don't know, but pretty sure morning thermals are falling before daylight and if you don't want deer down wind of you to smell you, I wouldn't be going in when those thermals are falling and drifting down to them. You contradicted yourself in this clip.
Just have to listen better 😊👍
N here I am drinking beer n smoking cigs.
This works great if your rich and hunt private. Public "just in time" means walking back to your truck cuz theres no room left for you. Morning thermals suck getting in the dark but its the only way to get to tour spot before someone else.
Actually this is the exact practice I use on public land...check out my PA federal land buck I shot in late Nov this season!
Cool thing is...no other hunters seen in 2 days. You don't have to be rich to work hard and get away from other hunters on public land. I don't every year. If you are hunting around other hunters you just aren't working hard enough to find a spot you can have to yourself. Very easy to do...and I do that every season whether I'm hunting PA, OH or MI.
Work harder...find new spots...and hunt smart. Those 3 strategies will help you find success no matter what your income status is...or how much $$ your prioritize for hunting each season.
So basically you just said all the possible times to enter a stand except for 3 hours before😂
You need better scent control if you're worried about blowing your scent to your deer.
Scent Thief. Make the wind your cover.
That stand is ruined. You can’t talk or make videos in a stand.
😂
You look a little pale are you okay health wise?
He ruined his stand by making a "tink" sound and he feels sick about it.
Ive told my buddies forever....the only thing you can do by getting to your stand too early is SPOOK DEER...
Or better yet, smoke your gear and you don't have to worry about it.
😂👍
@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 what's so funny? I always have deer within 10 yards no matter when I go to my stand. You must be another internet yuppie that buys every sales pitch at cabelas.
Ive heard a long time ago that standing over a smudge in your hunting clothes hides your human scent, and the smoke smell makes the animals curious and less spooked. I think tribes still do it in other parts of the world. I never tried it tho.
I left you a message and you or someone messaged me back and I never heard back from you. It was saying I won something or something like that. You actually left me a phone number to call.
Scam, don’t reply
Show us how many big bucks you’ve taken and not in a zoo ..
😂 he's killed more bucks on public than you will kill in your lifetime
@@Jonhuntandfish prove it
@@2cthetruthin his videos just watch them. Proof already there