D2:R Windforce Bowazon | A Modern Take on a Classic Legend

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  • @FBGshouldveducked
    @FBGshouldveducked 3 місяці тому +7

    If you never got to level 80 and still used cathans seal for the 8%LL you don't know the struggle

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@FBGshouldveducked 🤣 back when we had to go to the pandemonium fortress up hill 9 miles in the snow, both ways …if you get my drift 😂

    • @illusion-
      @illusion- 3 місяці тому +2

      6%

  • @michaelmccoy2178
    @michaelmccoy2178 3 місяці тому +1

    That is a really cool build for the old school amazon. More people should be using windforce in my opinion.. hopefully this helps other players think outside of just faith!.. well done!

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Thanks! Totally agree. There is optimal, and then there’s fun. Not to mention style and nostalgia. Just want people to think about doing things for fun again! I still hork, use nova, etc. but you gotta make room for experimentation and what is fun to you subjectively. 🤘🏻

  • @grosuciprian
    @grosuciprian 3 місяці тому +1

    nice build, thought of makeing a WF bowzon myself for some time, anyway you have a new subscriber :)

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey there! I super appreciate the sub and you stopping by to check it out, thank you so much! 🙏 You might have even more of an easier time using goblin toes instead of war travs to push that crushing blow up to 85-90% depending on your gloves. Just tried it last night and felt a bit smoother. I may also swing back around to this build to show my own online version with my self found gear in a different video. We will see! But I do plan on making a comparison video of at least 3 main bow options soon!

  • @Turdbomber9661
    @Turdbomber9661 3 місяці тому +1

    Been so long since I’ve played D2R. I’m stoked that ppl still play it. I also saw they drop a pack for console and I’m a broke boy with no PC soooooo……

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Hey dude, nothing wrong with playing on console!! Best game ever, I hope I can encourage you and others to have fun playing. I used to be very PvP focused and had to min max. Now I just try to have fun, and I think ultimately, I find much more joy! Maybe my budget build series will help you, I am working on more very soon, so stay tuned! Up next in order will be the Assassin, who is a very good starter.

    • @Turdbomber9661
      @Turdbomber9661 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 right on my man

  • @MikeyStreet314
    @MikeyStreet314 3 місяці тому +1

    Had a level 95 bowzon back pre LOD in 2000 that was my everything! (11/12 years old at the time lol) I only do SP now and haven’t found my WF yet but my girl is using upped goldstrike and I love using atma’s on her! Act 5 merc with lawbringer and grief is pretty nice for her too.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Very nice! Aw man, stoked to hear another OG still going strong. Nothing like knowing the game through each of the different eras. Good luck on the hunt, I love enjoying the journey opposed to just having everything. Lawbringer is so nice for the crowd control and curse, huge help on the frontline for sure.

  • @christophermanabat1934
    @christophermanabat1934 3 місяці тому +2

    Personally, I went with an act5 Merc using lastwish PB and Lawbringer. I still get the might aura and sanctuary aura in Chaos is pretty much amp damage on everything so I can use highlords. I almost exclusively farm chaos so it was perfect for me to use act5 Merc.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Act 5 merc is such a good option too since he is aggressive and likes to run forward taking the attention for you. With those two runewords you get might and sanctuary which knocks back undead all the time. The only thing is you get life tap and decrepify kind of casting back and forth. Both are very nice to have though. I’m guessing he actually works pretty well for bossing too with a good amount of crushing blow on lastwish. There are so many options and setup! Thanks for stopping by dude! 🙏🤘🏻

  • @realSAPERE_AUDE
    @realSAPERE_AUDE 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh yeah, I also wanted to mention that offline single player is a bit different than any online mode in the sense that enemies have more health in single player so the testing isn’t going to be a straightforward 1:1 comparison. Also, most people try to get passive/magic skills on gloves for physical bowzons because adding extra bow skills doesn’t really do much but the extra crit strike, ar, pierce, and survivability from the P&M skills go a long way.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      @@realSAPERE_AUDE Ahh nice, didn’t know about enemy life. My goal is to iron out the build and then build it online. Also, VERY nice point with passive and magic gloves. That is kind of a game changer. You have me thinking for sure! Appreciate you stopping by and sharing! 🙏🤘🏻

  • @xlatheblackdragon705
    @xlatheblackdragon705 Місяць тому +1

    My fav bow is rare/blue mat bow not wf. Something about the godly-ness of the rare/magic combo unique to d2, and then the legendary mat bow having the fastest attack speed profile just felt godly when I was more noob.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  28 днів тому

      Oh man, wasn't there the cruel MB of amp damage? That would be insane.

    • @xlatheblackdragon705
      @xlatheblackdragon705 28 днів тому +1

      @noknownthrone2487 yes. I think the godly blue bow was cruel mat bow of evisceration I love the names too lol and other rare mat bows with black colour and 388%+ ed and amp curse etc etc

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 3 місяці тому +1

    I like andariels visage ,angelic and treachery , gore riders, gold wrap/ nos coil , laying of hands (or blood gloves) on a wind force zon. The other ring slot can be whatever, usually a good leach ring. Depending on choices on certain pieces will determine what you socket into the items .

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Hey! Nice ways to grab some attack speed, HUGE attack rating and resists plus damage reduce for a safer experience for sure

    • @derekgreen7319
      @derekgreen7319 3 місяці тому

      ​@@noknownthrone2487I go for the second highest break point with hustle on the switch .

    • @derekgreen7319
      @derekgreen7319 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@noknownthrone2487nice build though !

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@derekgreen7319 Thanks dude! More coming down the pipe soon, stay tuned! 🤘

  • @realSAPERE_AUDE
    @realSAPERE_AUDE 3 місяці тому +1

    Cool stuff. You could potentially get more complicated with this by taking along something like a lacerator or witchwild string on swap, put the pre-buff hustle in the cube, and dropping atma’s for something else. Maybe you could get some ias amulet and then that would let you swap the belt and your weapon switch (ww-string or lacerator) can cover amp when you need it.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      @@realSAPERE_AUDE Thanks bud! I’d love to use highlords for that ias and deadly strike. Been totally wanting to find a good amp damage option for sure and your idea is interesting! Thanks for sharing!

    • @realSAPERE_AUDE
      @realSAPERE_AUDE 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 yeah no problem! The amp here seemed like it would proc right before most enemies die anyways and on p1 it’s conditionally useful at best so something with a high chance for amp might be a better option to switch to when you really need it rather than taking up the amulet slot for a mere 2% chance 🙂

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      @@realSAPERE_AUDE yea the thought was just for bosses or phys immune. It is 5% chance but still mostly useless on normal mobs, totally agree. I’ve since tested a Lo rune instead of Ber in the bow and it comes out to 86% chance to deal double damage with crit and deadly strike combined. I think I like the Lo rune more. Pretty sure switching to Highlords would just max it out if I can find another way to amp. Don’t want to lose my strafe speed though!

    • @realSAPERE_AUDE
      @realSAPERE_AUDE 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 yeah I think the reason people don’t focus much on crushing blow is that crit and deadly strike can be more consistent extra damage.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      @@realSAPERE_AUDE Absolutely. It's a juggle with normal monster speed, or boss killing speed!

  • @Satire-Gaming
    @Satire-Gaming 3 місяці тому +2

    My fondest memory of amazon in D2 was when the Buriza was added, if you had one with 2 sockets you usually wrecked everybody in pvp lol

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh dude, you are bringing me back!! Good times for sure. I remember my first time getting one and equipping it and watching my troubles go away 😎

    • @FBGshouldveducked
      @FBGshouldveducked 3 місяці тому +2

      BALLISTA was life❤

    • @sandesande6705
      @sandesande6705 2 місяці тому +1

      Balista... ❤❤❤.. wrecked everything

    • @caleydorrell
      @caleydorrell 6 днів тому

      You could also tppk an entire baal lobby with pre patch Buriza if they weren't paying attention

  • @derekgreen7319
    @derekgreen7319 3 місяці тому +1

    I also love the old wind force bowazon. It's unfortunate that it was nerfed so hard. maybe we'll get lucky with the next patch .

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Thanks for checking this out! Yea I agree, I think by nerf you mean the introduction of the “Faith” runeword or possibly the guided arrow and pierce mechanic that was nerfed after 1.08? Man I miss that so much. The only change that was made to the Windforce item itself was a reduction in dexterity after patch 1.08 back in the day. However, D2:R fixed the next hit delay (NHD) on skills which actually buffed strafe iirc.

  • @swampasssapper3643
    @swampasssapper3643 3 місяці тому +1

    Wonder what combo you could come up with if you put hustle in a merc weapon. Not sure what kind of weapons it can go in. Maybe an act 2 or act 5 merc setup 🤔 just a thought

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      That's a really interesting point! I've never thought about Hustle in a polearm. The problem is the level 1 aura being a very small radius. I feel like you'd have to use Enigma to keep it in check. Really good idea, and I appreciate this comment. You have me thinking!

    • @swampasssapper3643
      @swampasssapper3643 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 Didn't realize the radius was so small. Maybe more viable for a Tele stomping summon druid or necro

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@swampasssapper3643 Yea, you have me kind of still totally blown away by the realization it can be made in polearms... haha :D

    • @swampasssapper3643
      @swampasssapper3643 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 now that I think about it. It can probably go in an act 3 and act 5 merc weapons as well 🤔. An act 3 merc might hang back more next to your bow zon 🧐

    • @swampasssapper3643
      @swampasssapper3643 2 місяці тому +1

      @noknownthrone2487 thinking once I get a sazabi set I'll try hustle in a phase blade on an act 5 merc setup for my trav barb. The aura is small but he's usually going to be in the thick of it with you in trav

  • @khamm83
    @khamm83 3 місяці тому +1

    Do you still need Atma’s Scarab if you have a Bone Break Sunder Charm?

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Atmas works very well with bone break. If they are immune at 150% physical resist, amp alone only brings them down to 50% physical resistance. However, with bone break, they are dropped to 95% BEFORE amp, and amp has full effect. This means with bone break and amp that same monster would be at -5% physical resist. I hope this helps dude! Cheers, and thanks for stopping by! 🙏🤘🏻

  • @noknownthrone2487
    @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

    I hope you enjoy this different approach to the old school Windforce physical Bowazon! Please let me know your thoughts!

  • @MatthewEast-dv8wo
    @MatthewEast-dv8wo 3 місяці тому +1

    I hate that windforce was out of my grasp in its glory days... found one in chaos and gave it away 😢 couldn't find it in me to strip the Java down and humble her with a slow clearing bow build

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      The glory day were something to behold! Javazon is one of the fastest clearers in the game, so anything comparatively will be slow for sure. No reason you can’t still have some fun though 🤘🏻 Cheers!

  • @graemescott1140
    @graemescott1140 3 місяці тому +1

    Yea I remember on LoD that it was gg to have dual KnockBack effect I don’t remember why but I swear it helped stun lock of fhr lock I forget been 20years

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Oh interesting! I don’t remember that, but wonder if that is still a thing?

    • @graemescott1140
      @graemescott1140 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 it was in pvp anyways

    • @KellKheraptis
      @KellKheraptis 12 днів тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 WF and Clegs in 1.09 was instagib for basically anyone in the Moor. They'd be so locked up they couldn't move...short of a 10k life werewolf with 86% FHR (wolf fhr tables are crazy good) you really couldn't die with that combo if you were careful (and with the wolves, just NEVER let them get close). Every well equipped bowazon ear my wolf ate was from a zon in 09 that got sloppy 😛

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  11 днів тому

      @@KellKheraptis I'll never forget the glory days of D2:LOD PVP. Multiple eras of epic gaming for sure. Best times in gaming I've probably ever had! Didn't play zon enough though

  • @OliverJacobsen777
    @OliverJacobsen777 3 місяці тому +1

    Yesteday i was playing and a io rune dropped but i thought it was a Lo so i was screaming in a net cafe "holyyy shit, finally good loot to pappa" and then i realised it😂 a hour later i did then find a 36%ed and 13max dmg jewel which is still equal to a vex rune in hardcore d2r

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@OliverJacobsen777 I swear I feel trolled every single time!

  • @Sauron181
    @Sauron181 3 місяці тому +1

    even though its not the latest version of the strafe bowazon its way cooler I think

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Thanks friend! Yea there are lots of setups you can play with for sure. I had a huge itch to use Windforce! Super curious what ideas you may have! What other setups are you thinking, or what is the latest strafe meta? Happy to share ideas and learn! 🙏🤘🏻

  • @reneangler
    @reneangler 18 днів тому +1

    Cool

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  17 днів тому

      Thanks for stopping by! I've been recovering from a surgery, so I've been lacking on uploads, but more to come soon!

    • @reneangler
      @reneangler 17 днів тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 i know that sounds stupid, but i play very much aswell, don t forget to make breaks, when 4 hours playing -30 min pause, i have ruined my eyes with computer screen and handy display ... ) i just say that because i like you 😝🤣😂🫶 the video is great like always, best wishes rene reichstein !

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  17 днів тому

      @@reneangler Thank you! I'm still feeling out what I should do for my next video. Might do a recap if possible of my Ladder starter Amazon (yes, started Ladder with zon). But I totally agree, need to make space to let good light into your face 😎

    • @reneangler
      @reneangler 17 днів тому

      Thanks bro ) and good luck, your the man !

  • @zoutsider88
    @zoutsider88 3 місяці тому +1

    Still trying to find my first wind force. After 20 years. Found 3 of them in d4 first play through 😒😩

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      I wish you good luck! There are still items I’ve never found also, Zod rune for example. But I’ve found like a lot of every other rune in the game. Multiple Chams, Jahs, etc. all in D2R. You will get one! Also, I’ve tried D4 3 times now, and it just doesn’t feel like the same genre. I don’t like the itemization or the character progression. Very over exaggerated as well, with everything. Not very D1 or D2 vibes.

    • @zoutsider88
      @zoutsider88 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 agreed d4 is fun for a few hours. I highly doubt I’ll be grinding it’s pits 20 years from now. I can almost guarantee I’ll still be grinding my holy grail in d2r. You’ll get your zod. I got two of them from pits last year ssf players 7.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Dang, that’s an area I don’t visit enough. Thanks for the encouragement! Going to mix that in

  • @jordanlewis4308
    @jordanlewis4308 3 місяці тому +1

    I used to hate bowa. Still kinda do. But I made a telebowa and I gotta say it’s pretty fun for cheesing ez wins in PvP 😂😂😂

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Ha, that sounds sweet! I’d be curious how you set it up! You can use a Zon circlet to help FCR, and cta switch for faster tele. I’d think switching to tele might not be the best idea for pvp, but I haven’t pvp’d since D2LOD. I should get into it, it was always the most exhilarating experience in the game when you have a good room.

    • @jordanlewis4308
      @jordanlewis4308 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 120/45 in a artisan/jeweler’s circ of magus (3os 20%fcr
      18+% fcr ammy
      Arach belt
      1x fcr ring. 68 fcr on main.
      For swap I use an SS and a 6/40 jav (75% block and 60% dodge/evade/avoid means melee has a 90% miss rate - 1 pt in LF 1 pt in impale)
      For PvP no merc so you have to run faith. Either diamond bow or shadow bow to hit the max ias with 15 fanat
      Bowa gloves with ias and Knockback
      Rfrost
      War trav
      Like 10x 451
      4x 5fhr 3/20
      19x 3/x/20
      Cube with a cta, Mara’s, demon limb, and 2x soj/bk

    • @mattcampbell1846
      @mattcampbell1846 3 місяці тому +1

      I have a Tele bowazon just for pvm. I use brand bow and vamp gaze and string of ears for the magic damage reduction and physical damage reduction. I have no skill points into dodge evade etc because i want to get hit. I teleport into a pack wait for amp to proc which is virtually instantly most times then blast the crap out of everything with strafe. I have a bone break charm too which makes amp even more effective. It’s really fun can do players 5-7 but I do need the extra life from CTA to survive the initial hit which triggers amp damage

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Dang, that is a wild setup! Epic Amazon, sir!

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Your Amazon: “Come at me bro….”😎 🏹

  • @FBGshouldveducked
    @FBGshouldveducked 3 місяці тому +1

    LONG LIVE TWITCHTHORE/BALLISTA BOWAZON. FUCK RUNE WEAPONS COMPLETELY TOOK THE EDGE OFF THE COMPETITION. THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE WHO PLAYED D2 BEFORE LOD ORIGINALLY LAUNCHED. I'M TALKING BACK IN THE DAY WHEN PERFECT SKILLS/SOJ WE'RE THE MAIN FORM OF CURRENCY

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@FBGshouldveducked yessss brother!!! Back when there were no unique elites or charms. Much different world. Respect from another OG here 🙏😎🤘🏻

  • @phil-l
    @phil-l 3 місяці тому +1

    My big problem with phys bowazon are BOSSES p1 baal takes forever to kill

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому +1

      Big time dude! I’m still aiming to fine-tune this build and bring it to my online account. My goal is trying to increase boss kill speed, since bowazon is already pretty great at the normal mobs. Since this video, I’m finding that if I switch goblin toes for gore riders and dropping the crafted gloves for laying of hand, I get more consistent double damage from crits and deadly strike as well as the base increase with the +350% damage to demons. Cheers bud! Thanks for checking it out, super appreciate the comment! 🙏🏹

    • @phil-l
      @phil-l 3 місяці тому +1

      @@noknownthrone2487 you could test Wrath or Reaper’s

    • @phil-l
      @phil-l 3 місяці тому +1

      Baal has high phys resistance

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@phil-l That’s definitely an interesting idea and let’s you keep Pride on the mercenary. Thanks you for the suggestion! 🙏

  • @vm123
    @vm123 Місяць тому

    I use giant scull 30ias and hustle armor

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  Місяць тому

      @@vm123 I’ve always loved the inherent knockback on Giant Skull. Hustle is such a good budget addition to the game, can’t go wrong there!

  • @Tribies
    @Tribies 3 місяці тому +2

    Why the fart noices?

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      @@Tribies Hello! Well, I think farts are natures gift of comedy. Thought it would get a little chuckle here and there 😁

    • @heathermccoy4231
      @heathermccoy4231 3 місяці тому +1

      Why wouldn’t you put fart noises?

  • @einblutwolf5356
    @einblutwolf5356 3 місяці тому +1

    A hero edited Ber rune compared to a SSF or even a traded Ber rune in a WF... Naaah.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      I don't hero edit much, just for testing things and and wanted to see the impact I can have in a WF just for this video. If you don't need attack speed, I'd argue that Ber rune might be better than enhanced damage just for this kind of setup. I understand not wanting to throw one in there. However, I might just do it online. I mained a Trav horking barb for a long time and found a whole bunch of self found high runes. I just keep them sitting and collecting dust! I'll post an update if I improve this build, or make it online with my self-found runes!

  • @valdirespindula1997
    @valdirespindula1997 3 місяці тому +1

    12:56 dude, we can be friends

  • @paronzoda
    @paronzoda 3 місяці тому +1

    Please bro, less talky more showy. Good video though.

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Ha thanks! But I need to still explain. I do like to talk though lol

  • @atanaskalkanav7275
    @atanaskalkanav7275 3 місяці тому

    why its so slowy end intructed game

    • @noknownthrone2487
      @noknownthrone2487  3 місяці тому

      Hey there! I’m not sure what you mean. But I will say I like to talk a lot! 😂 If you are referring to the character’s boss killing speed, physical bowazon has always been like this after patch 1.08. This build is trying to maximize that speed where possible. I think I can still increase boss speed… stay tuned