Masked coverage will probably be the solution. Always show man but sometimes play zone so the offence doesn't know what you're doing even with a motion. You'll need very versatile DBs to achieve this, though.
Understanding football on a deeper level has refined my perception on the sport. I don’t even trash talk about players anymore. Especially on defense. This game is so mental.
I used motion as a Pop Warner coach and was criticized by the local HS coach for being "too mental". I have never understood why teams of all levels didn't use motion more, especially at the snap. Shifts are also excellent at creating "speed vs slow" matchups. QB's, even at a Pop Warner level, should be able to read simple defensive movements if their coach understands how to explain their keys. With everyone always in copycat mode, these motions will soon be at every level - unless coaches continue to keep their heads buried in the sand.
@@21Kolb I'm not sure but I remember he ran an offense that was basically; option right, option left, TE pop and All Go. At least that's all I remember seeing in the games I went to. Mainly his anger was since I refused to run his offense for my kids who were going to be freshmen the next year. I understood that but, since the kids really enjoyed the offense, I stuck with it for the few years I coached. We won with it as well.
A huge part of this is just how talented the players in Miami or SF are. You’re seeing a lot of teams attempt to copy this but simply don’t have the players to execute it. Speed of Hill, Waddle and the RB’s combined with Tua’s quick processing speed and accuracy allow this to happen. Green Bay just ran a similar outwards motion with Musgrave and it was just slow and clunky.
Exactly. The motion concept was always there but the Fins have speed demons on WR/RB and the Niners have the Avengers lineup around Purdy where they essentially have 3 RBs who can run from the backfield. Teams who realized the kind of talent they have in the roster have the ability to elevate the idea into a very strong cheat code. In some cases for the Chiefs they have a creative play caller/designer in Reid who can execute stuff like that easy for his team (for getting the defense to show their coverage). While other play callers struggle even trying to implement and sell motion for their offense.
Every team would motion on every play if it was easy. I do not recall the Dolphins committing a single pre snap penalty so far which is amazing with how complicated their offense is.
@@VaanRavi Sure, it's all a grand conspiracy by the NFL to allow Dolphins to cheat... good call, not. The 49ers and the Dolphins are doing this with RBs, TEs and WRs as they know the snap count so they can plant a foot and cut right at the snap and use momentum to evade / defeat stationary defenders. See how it could not be utilized as effectively in Buffalo because of the crowd noise, which was epic yesterday? Game ball for the Bills Mafia.
Ben Johnson is definitely doing all of this. Maybe not to the extent the Dolphins are but it is all over the Lions offense. The Lions also run and pass from the same sets and motion. It is hard to know what the Lions will do based on pre-snap reads. I haven't watched Miami becasue the are not on TV around here, but wow, they are good.
I really wish the official broadcasts used the more zoomed out camera angle. Watching the live game you can’t see any routes and are forced to just watch the QB. Feels like i’m missing half of the game
I'm sure the NFL considers that issue to be a feature, not a bug. Gotta pay them a bunch more money if you want to see the all-22 or the end zone angles.
The Chiefs have been motion heavy for years. While motion can be used to confuse defenses, it's even more useful as a way to read a defense pre-snap. It pressures defenses because you can use motion to overload a side, then snap the ball while the defense is still trying to adjust to the formation. The Chiefs 2 short TD passing plays "Corn Dog" were both designed to take advantage of the way the Eagles would adjust to motion. The result was two WIDE open TD's in goal line offense in the Superbowl. Even if defenses "figure it out" we'll always see motion because it will never become useless.
Wonderful job of explaining this, graphics are so so helpful. Glad you were able to find the footage and put graphics in it and not over complicate things.
Love these videos. So cool to learn evreything that goes into play design. The depth of knowledge and breakdown blows my mind as your average armchair enthusiast!
Great video as always! I'm curious if any NFL defenses are successfully fooling offenses in similar scenarios. Are there any defenses that will send a man into movement to track an offensive player in motion but still maintain a zone defense at the snap? Or is that a little too chaotic for a defense?
It’s such a unique balance between using the motion and not. If you’re dead 50/50 on using it/not, there’s no way the defense can know if you are GOING to motion. Meaning they have to be ready to defend what you give. Then, they have to also know every single possibility you can motion INTO. It’s one player on the offense causing complete chaos for the entire 11 men on defense. Really cool stuff, how simple yet effective it is
The CFL has always already allowed mutliple players to be in motion behind the line of scrimmage before the snap (know colloquially as "the waggle" lol)
I had no idea that it was this complicated? But then again I'm not a huge fan, but i do enjoy watching the Lions when I get the chance. Great video brother 👍
Motion has always been a way to give the offense advantages whether it shows coverage scheme or gains a favorable matchup. The Dolphins are using the burst motion that moves the slot guy outside. Ive seen offenses around the league adapt this motion. But as always Defense will adapt
All this motion is just so hard to defend, it really messes with the rules of coverage especially these days where most defenses are running match zones instead of true zones.
I'll never understand why the defensive coordinators aren't nearly as innovative as the offensive ones. Like how do we never see a 1-4-6, or 2-3-6 on 3 & long. Like last night 3 & 22 if only have 1 guy is rushing there u can play man and still spy the qb.
@@joshlewis575 Because not every defense has the the elite talent to simplify things when the offense complicates it at the last minute. The 2006 Bears defense just played cover 3 on early downs to get teams to late passing downs. So they can sit on tampa 2/inverted cover 3 to defend the pass. And have Urlacher be the best tight end in those situations covering the zone under the safeties. Hell not every team can successfully rush 4 nowadays on late passing downs. Let alone have great talents in coverage to rush 3/drop back 1 to spy against someone slippery like Mahomes.
So I’m a student college basketball coach, and I think one thing I’ve really noticed is how much football and basketball sygerize a lot of movements and motions. I think an easy example is every team has a full out of bounds play where you essentially run a Hail Mary, easy example, but from a deeper level I feel like the Virginia motion offense uses the same principles as the route schemes in some parts of this video. A lot of the Virginia offense is based around making quick reads, and rotating around what are called stagger screens. Essentially a stagger is a couple of screens meant to throw off the defender , I see a lot of this is slip routes and leverage routes. And if it doesn’t work you “flip” the offense, which gives you looks on the opposite wing, almost line a check down. So overall, just interesting if anyone sees where im coming from.
This makes me appreciate football so much more. I am a completely casual watcher, never played a snap in my life. Crazy what goes into running these schemes and what the players are aware aof.
Mike McDaniels watched a couple of CFL games for sure. In Canada only two receivers have to be set the rest ALWAYS motion. This always makes the passing game and offense in general more explosive which is why is is balanced as a 3 down game making it more fair
This would be a golden opportunity for CFL coaches and players to take their chances in a far more lucrative league. In the CFL, anyone behind the line can move in any direction up to and including the time of the snap. Subtract the QB and 7 line players from the 12 per side and that's up to 4 guys in motion, often running go routes full tilt, synchronized to pass the line of scrimmage a fraction of a second after the snap. Insight into how to adapt this to the NFL's game as well as stop it would be invaluable to the far richer organizations south of the border. This is truly the game before the game within the game, and it'll be fun to see the ongoing struggle between offensive and defensive units across the league.
I always thought the 99 to early 2000s Rams utilized shifts and motions very well. I used to like watching all the shifts and motions they made prior to snapping the ball. It had some opposing defenses scrambling, trying to figure out who to match up against.
Motion was just one of those quirks in the rules that people have been waiting for teams to start really using. As time passes, an offense ultizing the lateral in set plays seems more likely to happen
3:20 Mike McDaniels has some serious balls to throw an out route to the short side of the field after running clear out motion to the short side of the field.
remember the ravens ray lewis and ed reed defenses when they use to all move around pre snap to confuse the qb and the whole offense that might be the best counter for that heavy motion offenses
What's wild is how a lot of these that you call wide open still require precise timing to complete before the defense covers it back up. A lot of the people dismissing Tua (or even Purdy) act like the motion makes it trivial, but if that was the case the Dolphins would score 70 every week
I think people don't understand there are also levels to this. At baseline what the motion does is not only get the best athlete the mismatch (Hill for Fins, Deebo for Niners, etc.) prior to the snap but helps reveal the coverage pre-snap. So even a QB who is good at reading his targets can be confident to make a great decision and step in to throw even if the coverage look changes up a bit post snap. And for good play caller/designers, the other guys are just as good targets to throw to if they have the mismatch themselves (TE vs a small corner sitting in zone, etc.) Fins dropping 70 points is just a scenario unique to them given the athletes they have. For the Niners its just getting mismatches and CMC ripping explosives on the ground.
Pats have reacted to the motion/man check by staying put but reassigning themselves pre-snap. They don't always do this, in an attempt to blunt the effect of the motion/man check.
Makes sense for the Lions too. The athleticism of their O-line for run blocking besides their talent is top notch. So they can do various ways of run blocking including pin and pull that not many teams can afford for their run game.
I don't watch football. AT ALL. What I DO watch, tho, is really awesome videos by experts explaining stuff. I enjoyed this a lot and learned a lot about new innovations in football offenses. The pendulum swings forever, don't it? Great job, man, skilled video, 100% thumbs up. :_
It's crazy to me that teams haven't been taking advantage of the ability to motion at the snap for years. It has been an underutilized rule and it's an easy way to gain a big advantage. I think coaches like McDaniel are well-versed in game theory and that's the future of the league. Furthermore I can't wait to see where these guys take the game next. I think we're probably about 10 years away from seeing teams lean more into laterals once the ball carrier is into the secondary, sort of like running option concepts later into plays
Watching this is funny to me. As a Canadian, our football has motion on every single play because of the rule differences. It's crazy to me that motion is an innovative thing in the NFL
I started to watch CFL from about last season. And from what I can see, is that CFL is more dynamic. The forward motion plays big part in my opinion. Also the rules regarding to kick/return and onside kick. It is possible to score touchdown from a placekick or punt. Or just to get fresh set of downs.
@@shapeshifter8778 Glad you're enjoying it! It's definitely a lot different than the NFL, there are way more ways to throw the defense off, hence the need for only 3 downs.
Thank you for the many explains I had no clue WHY Miami is so effective. Sure they have the speed but if people are out of position and/or indecisive that speed is all the more effective. Yeah a copy cat league next year everybody will be using motion but they still don't have the speed of Miami. Miami is also a step ahead at executing motion. A lot less penalty because they don't screw it up very often. And Tua is cerebral a lotta people do not realize this. This guy catches on quick thus not every QB has his mental quickness and it shows. This is why most offenses are gonna have a tough time implementing this much motion. All players need to be on the same page we layman have no idea wtf is going on with these professionals.
Shanahan and McVay been using tons of motion successfully since like 2018 without the same speed that Miami has. Miami has taken it to another level not just with the speed but it’s the short motions from slot to outside receiver and vice versa which doesn’t give defenses enough time to adjust since it isn’t a full field motion.
Not only does motion cause confusion, but in Miami's case, players with elite speed in motion can be scary for a defense. Having played CB, I can tell you firsthand that a player running full tilt in my direction before the ball is snapped can be terrifying. Fins up!!!! Let's go!!!!
@@localppc242 I’m more disappointed in the defense. It’s awful. The scheme is suspect and the “bend but don’t’ break” ideology is not how defense should be played.
Teams can attempt to copycat the dolphins motions, however, do they have an accurate/patient qb? Do they have agile speedsters at RB/WR etc. So, I see many teams having marginal success with the motion concept.
@@benguensche who said he invented the passing game? I said the Dolphins have added some very innovative wrinkles. Wrinkles, which in the 104 year history of the NFL are very new and different. Dude, they just scored 70pts. Let's not act like that was a fluke. You don't drop 70 on a fluke.
I’d assume the logic behind it is that do it it being 3rd and long the secondary is probably going to play off, so maybe teams feel that that a guy in open space with a blocker or two is more likely to get across the sticks then actually trying to complete a pass downfield. Personally I still prefer throwing it past the sticks.
The idea behind it is that there’s a very small chance the offense can convert, so they use the screen to give more space to the punt team. Or, if it’s in plus territory, the team may not try and convert a long first down but gain just enough to be in FG range
Because on 3rd and Long, if defense is playing 3 deep and rushing 4 you won’t have time to throw down the field. So a good zone beater is a screen pass.
Screens are Low Risk - High Reward plays so throwing a screen in an otherwise unlikely-to-convert situation is not a bad idea. The Dolphins and 49ers do this extremely well because they have some of the best athletes in the NFL. Most every OC I know (including myself) tries to replicate that but you really need to have the right guy. The alternative is to take an intermediate shot but depending on your QB, those are dangerous in that situation. A lot of those big chunk plays through the air (deep or intermediate) come when defenses have to defend both the run and the pass. When they only need to defend the pass and the DC has time to spice things up, incompletions and punts are more common. Another note is that if you have a 3rd & 15 and complete a screen for 12 yards, maybe you go for it on 4th. 4th & 3 is a lot more attractive than 4th & 15.
The idea is they are playing off. As such if you trick the DL then there is a soft spot underneath the Defensive secondary. You then fill this with a ball carrier and blockers that are more suited to blocking on the second level then your typical receivers. Logically speaking you should expect a big play to pop and maybe get the first
Personally feel like motions are gonna be countered by the complete opposite on defense. Rather than following over across the field it’s gonna be a switch to a loose form of zone. With an emphasis on speedy db’s and linebackers yet really big dt’s and noseguards. Stuff the line for any runs with lineman that can take double teams and win. And defensive backs that can flip on a dime and break on the ball or offensive player with elite speed.
I still don't buy it. Conceptually Tyreek Hill on motion is already going faster going off the LoS than the DB responsible for him. And by the time he's hit his 10'ish yard landmark that same DB still hasn't pressed and has their hips open. Which signals to the QB that DB already lost and Hill will be a good target to get the ball to with what vertical route or slant he's on.
@@t4d0W i understand what you’re saying here. But hear me out. Say tyreek is coming across in a motion from the weak side of the field. The secondary would have to be extremely disciplined in how they communicate that motion to that strong side corner but with that he can start farther off the line. Yes he can’t jam since he isn’t pressed but he wouldn’t need to. Slide a nickel underneath and have the corners playing anything he runs deep. The nickel takes away any comeback routes and anything else underneath while chipping if tyreek continues upfield for a longer wheel route or go route. If the corner presses having safety help overtop takes anything deep away while the corner shadows with an inside leverage to take away post options and comeback routes. Easier said then done I know. But doable given the right team structure and coaching.
A sound play caller who doesn't put his personnel in bad spots can also work magic. Bobby Slowik (from the Niners working with Shanahan) is a first time play caller for the Texans and got their offense to put 30 on the Steelers defense. Meanwhile Matt Canada put a pitiful 6 points against a Texans defense which isn't noteworthy.
It's still so weird to me that the Miami Dolphins are legitimate offensive innovators right now. Except for like three weeks with the Wildcat, the Dolphins offense hasn't been interesting since Dan Marino retired, until now.
Watching this after the Chiefs offensive offsides call versus the Bills. Isn’t presnap motion toward the line of scrimmage illegal? Unlike offensive offsides, presnap forward motion gives the offense a huge advantage. It’s why Canadian football can be so much fun to watch
Allen is an anomaly. Even if he's not a read monster, if he understand that Stefon Diggs is still 1v1 vs a guy he's been burning all day 30 yards downfield, he's chucking that shit deep.
dawg imagine going back to the 1960s and running the dolphins offense now they think they would, without exaggerating, run into each other every play lol
Offenses have to do something to get the defense going the wrong way. Ever notice how a Reverse will get on average about 8 yards? Double reverse same thing. But what do most teams do? Run up the middle for 1-2 yards. If I was a head coach, running up the middle would be out the door.
Chiefs been doing this for a long time while everyone talked shit and said we were using college schemes. Now that Hill goes to Miami and they start running our offense to the tee, suddenly everyone's on board 😂
The terminology in football has passed me by. I would watch a video like this with terminology circa 2010. When/why has ‘boundary’ replaced ‘sideline’?
What do you want us to cover next week?
Matt Canada offense
What happened to the Broncos defense last year vs this year
Examine the offenses of the 4 0-3 teams and rank them first to worst. As a panther fan, i'm certainly expecting closer to "Worst" than first.
*WHY* justin fields cant read a defense? *WHY* CJ stroud can be successful long term? *WHY* justin Jefferson is a top 3 receiver?
Can you break down the lions pass rush/their coverage?
I'd love to see a part 2 about how defenses are successfully handling this, once it starts happening.
There will be no counter. Offenses will forever be broken
The only way defences are going to catch up is if they nerf the motion.
Maybe the patriots way of using more Dbs which could theoretically still hide man coverage if you switch
Masked coverage will probably be the solution. Always show man but sometimes play zone so the offence doesn't know what you're doing even with a motion. You'll need very versatile DBs to achieve this, though.
Receivers are gonna be running back and forth and in circles in the backfield waiting for the ball to be snapped before the decade is over
Understanding football on a deeper level has refined my perception on the sport. I don’t even trash talk about players anymore. Especially on defense. This game is so mental.
Its why most QBs and so many combine workout warriors don’t make it
I used motion as a Pop Warner coach and was criticized by the local HS coach for being "too mental". I have never understood why teams of all levels didn't use motion more, especially at the snap. Shifts are also excellent at creating "speed vs slow" matchups. QB's, even at a Pop Warner level, should be able to read simple defensive movements if their coach understands how to explain their keys. With everyone always in copycat mode, these motions will soon be at every level - unless coaches continue to keep their heads buried in the sand.
It's crazy how after Shanahan took over, basically half the high school teams in the Bay Area started running a ton of concepts from his offense
too mental is crazy lol. i think he is intimidated by you.
@@21Kolb I'm not sure but I remember he ran an offense that was basically; option right, option left, TE pop and All Go. At least that's all I remember seeing in the games I went to. Mainly his anger was since I refused to run his offense for my kids who were going to be freshmen the next year. I understood that but, since the kids really enjoyed the offense, I stuck with it for the few years I coached. We won with it as well.
I agree
@@TheSmarq17 its because the freshmen probably tried telling him to add your plays. No one enjoys running option every play lmao
A huge part of this is just how talented the players in Miami or SF are. You’re seeing a lot of teams attempt to copy this but simply don’t have the players to execute it. Speed of Hill, Waddle and the RB’s combined with Tua’s quick processing speed and accuracy allow this to happen.
Green Bay just ran a similar outwards motion with Musgrave and it was just slow and clunky.
Exactly. The motion concept was always there but the Fins have speed demons on WR/RB and the Niners have the Avengers lineup around Purdy where they essentially have 3 RBs who can run from the backfield. Teams who realized the kind of talent they have in the roster have the ability to elevate the idea into a very strong cheat code. In some cases for the Chiefs they have a creative play caller/designer in Reid who can execute stuff like that easy for his team (for getting the defense to show their coverage). While other play callers struggle even trying to implement and sell motion for their offense.
Every team would motion on every play if it was easy. I do not recall the Dolphins committing a single pre snap penalty so far which is amazing with how complicated their offense is.
And we committed so many illegal shift/motion penalties last year in the first year of McDaniel’s offense
They still commit them. More then half the time hill or waddle is moving forwarding in motion. Can't do that
@@VaanRavi Sure, it's all a grand conspiracy by the NFL to allow Dolphins to cheat... good call, not. The 49ers and the Dolphins are doing this with RBs, TEs and WRs as they know the snap count so they can plant a foot and cut right at the snap and use momentum to evade / defeat stationary defenders. See how it could not be utilized as effectively in Buffalo because of the crowd noise, which was epic yesterday? Game ball for the Bills Mafia.
last year, not this year@@VaanRavi
last year they did @@VaanRavi
This was EASILY the most informative explanation of NFL route/motion concepts I’ve ever seen. Thank you!
Ben Johnson is definitely doing all of this. Maybe not to the extent the Dolphins are but it is all over the Lions offense. The Lions also run and pass from the same sets and motion. It is hard to know what the Lions will do based on pre-snap reads. I haven't watched Miami becasue the are not on TV around here, but wow, they are good.
I really wish the official broadcasts used the more zoomed out camera angle. Watching the live game you can’t see any routes and are forced to just watch the QB. Feels like i’m missing half of the game
I'm sure the NFL considers that issue to be a feature, not a bug. Gotta pay them a bunch more money if you want to see the all-22 or the end zone angles.
@@jayschafer1760 How does one access that?
@@jayschafer1760 there reason given for a longtime was because people would be too critical of QBs
The Chiefs have been motion heavy for years. While motion can be used to confuse defenses, it's even more useful as a way to read a defense pre-snap. It pressures defenses because you can use motion to overload a side, then snap the ball while the defense is still trying to adjust to the formation. The Chiefs 2 short TD passing plays "Corn Dog" were both designed to take advantage of the way the Eagles would adjust to motion. The result was two WIDE open TD's in goal line offense in the Superbowl. Even if defenses "figure it out" we'll always see motion because it will never become useless.
I was going to comment on this. Don’t act like the Fins are the ones perfecting this, Chiefs have been doing this with MASSIVE success for years
phew good comment dude for a second the dolphins had a nice thing going for them, glad we could bring the chiefs into the conversation
The Joe Gibbs Redskins did this quite often, in the 80’s and early 90’s as well.
@@user-ch3eu9ho2n oh I know, I just want the chiefs to win one more superbowl, then i'll shut up
@@TheMedic1216 yes, and the shanahans too
You guys make the best breakdowns! Keep up the great work!
My compliments and thanks to you. Very well done! Graphics, analysis, voice over, all excellent. And no annoying music😊
Thank You for the video on the concept of motion for the pass and run on offense.
Wonderful job of explaining this, graphics are so so helpful. Glad you were able to find the footage and put graphics in it and not over complicate things.
Excellent video. Every time I watch your channel, I feel as if I am up to date on what is going on in the N.F.L.
As a Carolina fan, I am shocked that it's possible to run anything other than Run, Run, Screen behind the line of scrimmage, punt.
Same here Steelers fan lol
Love these videos. So cool to learn evreything that goes into play design. The depth of knowledge and breakdown blows my mind as your average armchair enthusiast!
Great video as always!
I'm curious if any NFL defenses are successfully fooling offenses in similar scenarios. Are there any defenses that will send a man into movement to track an offensive player in motion but still maintain a zone defense at the snap? Or is that a little too chaotic for a defense?
It’s such a unique balance between using the motion and not. If you’re dead 50/50 on using it/not, there’s no way the defense can know if you are GOING to motion. Meaning they have to be ready to defend what you give. Then, they have to also know every single possibility you can motion INTO. It’s one player on the offense causing complete chaos for the entire 11 men on defense. Really cool stuff, how simple yet effective it is
Fantastic presentation. Thanks for this.
Once again a superb analysis. Just outstanding!
The CFL has always already allowed mutliple players to be in motion behind the line of scrimmage before the snap (know colloquially as "the waggle" lol)
I had no idea that it was this complicated? But then again I'm not a huge fan, but i do enjoy watching the Lions when I get the chance. Great video brother 👍
Motion has always been a way to give the offense advantages whether it shows coverage scheme or gains a favorable matchup. The Dolphins are using the burst motion that moves the slot guy outside. Ive seen offenses around the league adapt this motion. But as always Defense will adapt
Thanks it all seems so simple for the great teams
The CFL has been doing this for ages, where all receivers can go in motion prior to the snap.
As a Canadian, pre snap motion just seems normal to me.
Very informative video. Thank you!
All this motion is just so hard to defend, it really messes with the rules of coverage especially these days where most defenses are running match zones instead of true zones.
As much a problem for passing Greg Roman was on offense he made motioning at the snap the norm for that absolute killer run game.
11:30 some real wing-T vibes from that play (looks like the wing reverse off of buck sweep action), really nasty
The browns defense has experimented with motion on their line a little bit during the titans game which is pretty interesting
I'll never understand why the defensive coordinators aren't nearly as innovative as the offensive ones. Like how do we never see a 1-4-6, or 2-3-6 on 3 & long. Like last night 3 & 22 if only have 1 guy is rushing there u can play man and still spy the qb.
@@joshlewis575 Because not every defense has the the elite talent to simplify things when the offense complicates it at the last minute. The 2006 Bears defense just played cover 3 on early downs to get teams to late passing downs. So they can sit on tampa 2/inverted cover 3 to defend the pass. And have Urlacher be the best tight end in those situations covering the zone under the safeties. Hell not every team can successfully rush 4 nowadays on late passing downs. Let alone have great talents in coverage to rush 3/drop back 1 to spy against someone slippery like Mahomes.
Fantastic breakdown!
So I’m a student college basketball coach, and I think one thing I’ve really noticed is how much football and basketball sygerize a lot of movements and motions. I think an easy example is every team has a full out of bounds play where you essentially run a Hail Mary, easy example, but from a deeper level I feel like the Virginia motion offense uses the same principles as the route schemes in some parts of this video. A lot of the Virginia offense is based around making quick reads, and rotating around what are called stagger screens. Essentially a stagger is a couple of screens meant to throw off the defender , I see a lot of this is slip routes and leverage routes. And if it doesn’t work you “flip” the offense, which gives you looks on the opposite wing, almost line a check down. So overall, just interesting if anyone sees where im coming from.
This makes me appreciate football so much more. I am a completely casual watcher, never played a snap in my life. Crazy what goes into running these schemes and what the players are aware aof.
I love this.. part two please
The Dolphin's run game is a thing of beauty. Best of luck to them for the rest of the season.
Mike McDaniels watched a couple of CFL games for sure. In Canada only two receivers have to be set the rest ALWAYS motion. This always makes the passing game and offense in general more explosive which is why is is balanced as a 3 down game making it more fair
Packers, when they were more competitive, also used a LOT of motion plays. They had someone in motion in almost every snap.
This would be a golden opportunity for CFL coaches and players to take their chances in a far more lucrative league. In the CFL, anyone behind the line can move in any direction up to and including the time of the snap. Subtract the QB and 7 line players from the 12 per side and that's up to 4 guys in motion, often running go routes full tilt, synchronized to pass the line of scrimmage a fraction of a second after the snap. Insight into how to adapt this to the NFL's game as well as stop it would be invaluable to the far richer organizations south of the border. This is truly the game before the game within the game, and it'll be fun to see the ongoing struggle between offensive and defensive units across the league.
I thought I was seeing more motion this year than I was used to. Noticed it during Lions Chiefs and haven't been able to shake the thought since.
I always thought the 99 to early 2000s Rams utilized shifts and motions very well. I used to like watching all the shifts and motions they made prior to snapping the ball. It had some opposing defenses scrambling, trying to figure out who to match up against.
Motion was just one of those quirks in the rules that people have been waiting for teams to start really using.
As time passes, an offense ultizing the lateral in set plays seems more likely to happen
It's just really risky. The worst thing an offense can do is turn the ball over quickly and force their defense back on without enough rest.
awesome analysis!!!
I wish this exact video was out 5 years ago when I was playing Madden like crazy
This is good work 👍
Sean McDermott is one of the greatest defensive minds in the NFL.
i just wish he was 13 seconds better against the chiefs :(
tbf he didnt need to do shit
3:20 Mike McDaniels has some serious balls to throw an out route to the short side of the field after running clear out motion
to the short side of the field.
This piece was excellent.
it’s gonna sound stupid for a second but this is a modern evolution of old school schemes and option based offenses
Excellent
Great analysis!!!!
Great stuff, as always~
Is it difficult to install motion aspects into an offense and do you have to have more agile lineman?
remember the ravens ray lewis and ed reed defenses when they use to all move around pre snap to confuse the qb and the whole offense that might be the best counter for that heavy motion offenses
@@basdfef4775 1st or 2nd superbowl?
Excellent analysis. Although at 6:30 let's be honest, you and I could shut our eyes and gently toss the ball past that Broncos defence.
That game looked like actual broncos fighting actual dolphins in the ocean.
Before Sean McVay, the jet sweep motion was only a novelty in the league
Andy reid has done this forever dude
Same with kelce too, missed week 1 but still has top receptions, they literally just have him walking around till they snap the ball 😂
What's wild is how a lot of these that you call wide open still require precise timing to complete before the defense covers it back up. A lot of the people dismissing Tua (or even Purdy) act like the motion makes it trivial, but if that was the case the Dolphins would score 70 every week
I think people don't understand there are also levels to this. At baseline what the motion does is not only get the best athlete the mismatch (Hill for Fins, Deebo for Niners, etc.) prior to the snap but helps reveal the coverage pre-snap. So even a QB who is good at reading his targets can be confident to make a great decision and step in to throw even if the coverage look changes up a bit post snap. And for good play caller/designers, the other guys are just as good targets to throw to if they have the mismatch themselves (TE vs a small corner sitting in zone, etc.) Fins dropping 70 points is just a scenario unique to them given the athletes they have. For the Niners its just getting mismatches and CMC ripping explosives on the ground.
Pats have reacted to the motion/man check by staying put but reassigning themselves pre-snap. They don't always do this, in an attempt to blunt the effect of the motion/man check.
I’ve notice Miami and Detroit use a ton of motion this season!
Makes sense for the Lions too. The athleticism of their O-line for run blocking besides their talent is top notch. So they can do various ways of run blocking including pin and pull that not many teams can afford for their run game.
I don't watch football. AT ALL. What I DO watch, tho, is really awesome videos by experts explaining stuff. I enjoyed this a lot and learned a lot about new innovations in football offenses. The pendulum swings forever, don't it? Great job, man, skilled video, 100% thumbs up. :_
Love it. Make more
It's crazy to me that teams haven't been taking advantage of the ability to motion at the snap for years. It has been an underutilized rule and it's an easy way to gain a big advantage. I think coaches like McDaniel are well-versed in game theory and that's the future of the league. Furthermore I can't wait to see where these guys take the game next. I think we're probably about 10 years away from seeing teams lean more into laterals once the ball carrier is into the secondary, sort of like running option concepts later into plays
Thanks!
This is what I love about football it's so complicated and intricate
Watching this is funny to me. As a Canadian, our football has motion on every single play because of the rule differences. It's crazy to me that motion is an innovative thing in the NFL
I started to watch CFL from about last season. And from what I can see, is that CFL is more dynamic. The forward motion plays big part in my opinion. Also the rules regarding to kick/return and onside kick. It is possible to score touchdown from a placekick or punt. Or just to get fresh set of downs.
@@shapeshifter8778 Glad you're enjoying it! It's definitely a lot different than the NFL, there are way more ways to throw the defense off, hence the need for only 3 downs.
Motion to read defense presnap with shift+ motion once set again. RPO calls can hot audible automatic
with Grubb at Seattle, do you perceive defenses will accelerate their adjustments to pre snap motion given how often UW ran pre-snap motion?
Thank you for the many explains I had no clue WHY Miami is so effective. Sure they have the speed but if people are out of position and/or indecisive that speed is all the more effective. Yeah a copy cat league next year everybody will be using motion but they still don't have the speed of Miami. Miami is also a step ahead at executing motion. A lot less penalty because they don't screw it up very often. And Tua is cerebral a lotta people do not realize this. This guy catches on quick thus not every QB has his mental quickness and it shows. This is why most offenses are gonna have a tough time implementing this much motion. All players need to be on the same page we layman have no idea wtf is going on with these professionals.
Shanahan and McVay been using tons of motion successfully since like 2018 without the same speed that Miami has. Miami has taken it to another level not just with the speed but it’s the short motions from slot to outside receiver and vice versa which doesn’t give defenses enough time to adjust since it isn’t a full field motion.
Agreed lol
The Skyy Moore play was absolutely beautiful.
This man is the Jimmyhighroller of the NFL and I love it
It’s also a lot harder to play press coverage on a man that is in motion
We were doing this 💩 in Madden 20 years ago, now the NFL is just figuring this out 🤡🤣
Not only does motion cause confusion, but in Miami's case, players with elite speed in motion can be scary for a defense. Having played CB, I can tell you firsthand that a player running full tilt in my direction before the ball is snapped can be terrifying. Fins up!!!! Let's go!!!!
Speed and Motion did nothing for those Fins, on Sunday
@@localppc242 I’m more disappointed in the defense. It’s awful. The scheme is suspect and the “bend but don’t’ break” ideology is not how defense should be played.
Teams can attempt to copycat the dolphins motions, however, do they have an accurate/patient qb? Do they have agile speedsters at RB/WR etc.
So, I see many teams having marginal success with the motion concept.
The chiefs have been successfully doing this for a long time. This isnt some new thing the dolphins just came up with
@@benguensche We found a Chiefs fan, everybody
@benguensche actually, if you pay attention to breakdowns from analysis's they've added several totally new wrinkles.
@@deanmarten if i add some wrinkles to my running game, did i reinvent the running game?
@@benguensche who said he invented the passing game? I said the Dolphins have added some very innovative wrinkles. Wrinkles, which in the 104 year history of the NFL are very new and different. Dude, they just scored 70pts. Let's not act like that was a fluke. You don't drop 70 on a fluke.
Man you should do the cowboys offense
can you explain why every professional nfl team runs a screen pass on 3rd and long nowadays? like wtf is the logic
I’d assume the logic behind it is that do it it being 3rd and long the secondary is probably going to play off, so maybe teams feel that that a guy in open space with a blocker or two is more likely to get across the sticks then actually trying to complete a pass downfield. Personally I still prefer throwing it past the sticks.
The idea behind it is that there’s a very small chance the offense can convert, so they use the screen to give more space to the punt team. Or, if it’s in plus territory, the team may not try and convert a long first down but gain just enough to be in FG range
Because on 3rd and Long, if defense is playing 3 deep and rushing 4 you won’t have time to throw down the field. So a good zone beater is a screen pass.
Screens are Low Risk - High Reward plays so throwing a screen in an otherwise unlikely-to-convert situation is not a bad idea. The Dolphins and 49ers do this extremely well because they have some of the best athletes in the NFL. Most every OC I know (including myself) tries to replicate that but you really need to have the right guy.
The alternative is to take an intermediate shot but depending on your QB, those are dangerous in that situation. A lot of those big chunk plays through the air (deep or intermediate) come when defenses have to defend both the run and the pass. When they only need to defend the pass and the DC has time to spice things up, incompletions and punts are more common.
Another note is that if you have a 3rd & 15 and complete a screen for 12 yards, maybe you go for it on 4th. 4th & 3 is a lot more attractive than 4th & 15.
The idea is they are playing off. As such if you trick the DL then there is a soft spot underneath the Defensive secondary. You then fill this with a ball carrier and blockers that are more suited to blocking on the second level then your typical receivers. Logically speaking you should expect a big play to pop and maybe get the first
Personally feel like motions are gonna be countered by the complete opposite on defense. Rather than following over across the field it’s gonna be a switch to a loose form of zone. With an emphasis on speedy db’s and linebackers yet really big dt’s and noseguards. Stuff the line for any runs with lineman that can take double teams and win. And defensive backs that can flip on a dime and break on the ball or offensive player with elite speed.
I still don't buy it. Conceptually Tyreek Hill on motion is already going faster going off the LoS than the DB responsible for him. And by the time he's hit his 10'ish yard landmark that same DB still hasn't pressed and has their hips open. Which signals to the QB that DB already lost and Hill will be a good target to get the ball to with what vertical route or slant he's on.
@@t4d0W i understand what you’re saying here. But hear me out. Say tyreek is coming across in a motion from the weak side of the field. The secondary would have to be extremely disciplined in how they communicate that motion to that strong side corner but with that he can start farther off the line. Yes he can’t jam since he isn’t pressed but he wouldn’t need to. Slide a nickel underneath and have the corners playing anything he runs deep. The nickel takes away any comeback routes and anything else underneath while chipping if tyreek continues upfield for a longer wheel route or go route. If the corner presses having safety help overtop takes anything deep away while the corner shadows with an inside leverage to take away post options and comeback routes. Easier said then done I know. But doable given the right team structure and coaching.
Look back in time, when the wild cat was crazy, the only thing they had against the Pats during that time.
i haven’t watched the video yet but it just seems like a good idea getting a guy like tyreek hill a running start
"the turf monster gets the center" ah come on man dude just wanted everyone to miss that
all of this is not possible without great protection. Wish my steelers had a competent offensive line.
A sound play caller who doesn't put his personnel in bad spots can also work magic. Bobby Slowik (from the Niners working with Shanahan) is a first time play caller for the Texans and got their offense to put 30 on the Steelers defense. Meanwhile Matt Canada put a pitiful 6 points against a Texans defense which isn't noteworthy.
It's still so weird to me that the Miami Dolphins are legitimate offensive innovators right now. Except for like three weeks with the Wildcat, the Dolphins offense hasn't been interesting since Dan Marino retired, until now.
This made me wanna play some madden lol
Matt Canada... "nah, it's just to fake an end-around"... and then we run up the middle.
Seems like both KC and Miami are wise to the pre-snap motion ploys. Neither had much luck against the other in yards or scoring in Frankfurt.
Watching this after the Chiefs offensive offsides call versus the Bills.
Isn’t presnap motion toward the line of scrimmage illegal?
Unlike offensive offsides, presnap forward motion gives the offense a huge advantage. It’s why Canadian football can be so much fun to watch
Helps when you got the fastest players in the league.
Edit: defenses will have to evolve
I always thought the ref were missing clear illegal motions on these orbits and jet motions
Matt Canada watching this: so my motion jet sweeps ARE good
My question is, didn’t Brady do this a ton in NE and TB? Is it personnel differences that make the dolphins and chiefs different?
Only breaks it if the script reads man goes in motion and defense goes completely stupid
Buffalo Bills run second least motion in the NFL 🤦🏻♂️ They need to help Allen identify coverage.
Allen is an anomaly. Even if he's not a read monster, if he understand that Stefon Diggs is still 1v1 vs a guy he's been burning all day 30 yards downfield, he's chucking that shit deep.
dawg imagine going back to the 1960s and running the dolphins offense now they think they would, without exaggerating, run into each other every play lol
Kyle Shanahan has had motion built into pretty much every single play for the past decade and now all the sudden its a revolution. 🤣
Unsolved mysteries
“Showing a clear man coverage” and here I’m looking at the defence barely moved.
Offenses have to do something to get the defense going the wrong way. Ever notice how a Reverse will get on average about 8 yards? Double reverse same thing. But what do most teams do? Run up the middle for 1-2 yards. If I was a head coach, running up the middle would be out the door.
Chiefs been doing this for a long time while everyone talked shit and said we were using college schemes. Now that Hill goes to Miami and they start running our offense to the tee, suddenly everyone's on board 😂
The terminology in football has passed me by. I would watch a video like this with terminology circa 2010. When/why has ‘boundary’ replaced ‘sideline’?