Carnegie Mellon is OVERRATED - Here's Why
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Here's my take on why I think Carnegie Mellon is overrated :) let me know what you think. Subscribe to me here! bit.ly/MICHAELSONG
If you’re new to the channel: welcome ~ I’m Michael and I'm a rising senior at Carnegie Mellon University studying Information Systems. I make new videos every week about college and tech
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0:00 Intro
0:12 CMU Employment Report
0:43 University of Michigan Data
1:46 Tech is Merit Based
2:32 Rutgers Data
3:08 Why CMU is Overrated: My Reasons
If you remove the name Carnegie Mellon from the title and replace it with Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, Yale, UC Berkeley or Caltech, your arguments on why they are overrated may still be valid.
Wish I had seen a video like this around college application time… the school you go to doesn’t matter nearly as much as the work you decide to put in
thank you will!
Yes it does
the school you go to definitely matters to a degree, especially if youre in Finance. i know for a fact that the networking & funding opportunities at more "elite" schools are 999999x better than the ones at my shitty school. And dont get me started on scholarship-opportunities..
@@natesamadhi33 who do you believe is more likely to get the high paying job fresh out of college... Mit graduate or a graduate from unknown small town university? People that graduate from mid to top tier schools start off with so many top tier opportunities and those experiences continue to benefit them throughout their career
@@nellatl Right, people who never went to these top schools love to claim "it doesnt matter", but if youre a hiring manager and you see an applicant that went to Princeton, there's a subconscious weight to that; you automatically associate the elite reputation of Princeton to this applicant--ESPECIALLY if you (the manager) went to Princeton too. The alumni connections that so many CEOs and managers have with elite schools is insane.
Thats why i cant wait to transfer out of the college im at now, because everyone knows its garbage lol. Our career counselors have no connections whatsoever.
You make a good point! The tech industry is pretty fair when it comes to recruiting, skills and ability are more important than where you graduate from. But schools do matter when we talk about the training of soft skills, your network, and the opportunities
yay! Tech seems a lot more merit based, although school likely does play a decent factor in getting past the resume screen and in certainly matters in the areas you mentioned above
The points you mentioned about are probably the cons of CMU, but I would say there are many other reasons that make CMU the best CS university, like academic achievement, resource available for each students, etc. It would be better to includes more aspects to support your conclusion and make it more convincing
I am applying to colleges right now, and find myself questioning my entire life. I am going into engineering (biomed or electronic) and wonder if it is the same for my major. I am coming from a competitive school, and am morally exhausted of always trying to climb to the top, of competing with the best out of the best… I am not sure that I want to keep doing things in college. My question is does this apply only to cs, or engineering as well? Thank you so much!
for real! I'm do tired of keeping 4.0 GPAs like a snap streak, it feel so pointless after a certain point.
you make some good points!
going to a college with a recognizable name helps you pass resume screenings, but after that it's up to your coding skills
thanks Selinah!
Just to give you a perspective of student from an average state school. Many people struggle to even get past the screening even with 200+ applications.
I graduated from CalState and I was hired along side CMU and Stanford Grads..... I went for FREE ...They have HUGE debt
But you can't deny the halo effect of having a degree from CMU vs Rutgers in real life corporate environment especially at prestigious companies..
i don't know anything about it because I haven't been working full time or know too much about the recruiting process, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is one
I recently got admitted into CMU for ms biotechnology and pharmaceuticals engineering so now I’m confused to what to do
Great vid, one benefit of top colleges I would mention is access to a lot of resources and networking
your reasons then would apply to all top private (or even OOS public) institutions for any CS degree, not only carnegie mellon. Besides, companies actively seek out students from carnegie mellon, it is a huge boost if you want to get those top jobs at top companies.
This is so right! I think carnegie mellon should be removed from the title and you should just put these T20 compsci schools in general. Almost all of them fall under the same reasons.
But is it overrated in any other major?
i got accepted to CMU but I went to an instate state college instead (Georgia Tech).. I went for almost free, and CMU wouldve been 60k a year, so like a quarter million in debt.. It is not worth it at all .. haha im glad i made a wise financial decision
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wow, thank you so much for your support!! I'll make sure to keep it up :)
CM alumni economic outcomes are much better than University of Michigan, on both income and wealth indicators. You made the right decision.
With all these great paying jobs why can't these people pay their loans. I've payed my student loans earning an average wage working myself to exhaustion the whole while. Something just doesn't add up.
You have to look closely at where these high paying jobs are. Cost of living is staggering in the regions where these high salaries are paid. High salaries are great but need to be looked at with deeper perspective.
2:01 stock footage guy got the same mousepad as me
Salary data doesn't mean much if you don't control for geographic location.
$100k in the SF Bay Area is poverty wages.
$100k in Mississippi is beau coup bucks.
I do agree that the biggest downside to attending Carnegie Mellon is the sky-high tuition rate
Other colleges will teach you exactly the same thing for way less money..... In my 40 years of being in IT, not once have I looked at what school someone has came from. I only care if they know how to do the work.
If you're not talking about how many years you're taught by grad students, the analysis is incomplete. On this metric, I wouldn't put Harvard and Berkeley in the same bin as CMU and Stanford. When students pay a lot of money, some will raise a real fuss if they're being taught by grad students all the way up through ML. So that steep tuition bill does mean something--the school has to do things to justify it. Reification with median starting salary needs to be qualified with how many dropped out of their intended major or learned more about the current state of the art, and that will partly depend on exposure to experts who've been in the biz for decades with insight and experience to share and practiced explanations of the advanced material.
There was once a CMU guy accepting our internship offer and then rescinded the deal after one month or so, leaving little time for a replacement. 駄目です😠
great video,, though im for sure coming back here when i find they reject me and i need to hard cope LOL.
LOL good luck man
keep us updated ! I'd like to know
Wish I saw this in 2019 befor EDing to SCS lmfao
very cool!
thank you!
Class of 2018 ECE here. I don't think you have any business in commenting on CMU's overall appeal considering you're an IS Major lmao. For CS and ECE, the quality of learning is still top notch. IS has minimal overlap beyond foundational courses. You are grossly underestimating the advantage CMU and other top tier schools give to help land interviews. 3 big tech offers with minimal effort when I was graduating (didn't take em though). Those statistics on comp are also questionable. I never even reported my final offer to the career center. Many people don't, and you are also not considering total comp. I currently go to Chicago Booth rn, and can tell you a top engg. school with an M7 MBA will separate you on all degrees as long as you put the work in and don't slack off. The salty folks who didn't get into top schools likely loved this video. Stay foolish
What is chicago booth rn? Is rn registered nurse?
Software is permissionless capital... if you can outwork "smart" people, you will prevail.
facts
LETS GO!
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the first loser
I was considering CM but after hearing a professor wishing Queen Elizabeth an excruciating death, I changed my mind. If you are a student there, TRANSFER.
yeah, that was pretty extreme!
That was bad. As an alumnus I was disappointed, but at least somewhat pleased that the university had an official reaction to her awful statements.
In this age, universities are overrated as you can learn the material online. You just need to find a guideline.
Definitely overrated
first again:D
hooray
Who cares about what you think ? Who are you?
no lies detected from the fax printer 📠
ayyyy appreciate your support bro