Perhaps Trump's success with Cursed Blade this run is in part because of his relatively large number of taunt creatures. Trump doesn't normally value taunt very highly (often having 0-1 in his entire arena deck), but when you are going to knock yourself down to 4 health, holding off further face damage becomes more important.
+Nerdnumberone I would honestly call it more "succeeding despite Cursed Blade"... seriously that dumb sword meant he had to do so many awkward, janky plays just so he wouldn't die on turn 4 like turn 3 coin mortal strike... I means seriously now when would that EVER have been the correct play in any other circumstance. I just don't understand this weird fixation with this garbage card. Especially because he's run plenty of times now and lost because of it. I don't watch his streams - is he just trolling or is he really this deluded about that card?
+CloakingDonkey I do think Trump is slightly overestimating the card, but the card really isn't that bad. Cursed Blade has the potential to kill 2 or 3 cards for 1 mana, which is great for acquiring tempo and board control. Health isn't important as long as you can control the board. (and aren't facing excessive burst), because then your opponent simply doesn't have the means to kill you. Even if you take a ton of damage clearing your enemies board, it doesn't matter if it allows you to build up a winning board presence in the meantime. It's the same principle classic Zoolock used to win games. Cursed Blade does become really painful when you are losing the board, but if you are losing that race even with 3 'free' 2-damage shots to kill minions you'd probably have lost anyway.
+CloakingDonkey In part 1, there are 2 games (that I remember) which really show how good the card can be. In the first match, it saved the 3/2 and, later, the 3/4. Sure it dealt 7 damage to Trump in so doing (half of what he took) but the tempo let him get a pretty easy win. In the 7th match, it let him have a VERY strong turn 6 (2/3 weapon, 3/3 taunt and 2/4 frothing) which pushed for lethal, thanks to aggressive cards in hand. The issue is that Trump seems to consider it to be a "control" card... it's really not. In this run, he used it to semi-control in an aggressive deck, which works out VERY well. Being aggressive, you can afford to damage yourself in order to save your minions and push more damage in. You're putting enough pressure for your low life total not to matter too much, since the opponent will be too worried about his own life total to be able to push yours down more. If you have a more control-heavy deck (like Trump's usual), then you will constantly be scrambling to save yourself, due to low health, which is NOT good at all.
Cursed blade lets you win a game, sure - if you have it in your starting hand, have good follow ups and the opponent plays the right minions. But it will make you lose more games and also be a dead card sometimes. And the games people said he won because of the card could actually be won anyway, especially if you have a good deck generally. So when you add this up it's a bad card.... There you have the final facts about the card, haha..
i honestly feel like trump has good ideas about cursed blade, he might overvalue it a bit just to be a differing opinion but generally his ideas about it are solid looking
In the opponents mind: 13:00: "I can't believe this moron just took 10 damage" 18:53: "Impossible! How could my op secret paladin arena draft lose to this terrible deck?" Trumps done a really good job on this draft.
liger04 Not hatred, unspeakable contempt, the drafts will not always favor you, and picking a cursed blade will not often cause your deck to spiral into tempo
JAHurley41 That's true, but picking no tempo will screw you many more times than having a mismatched deck of hyper-tempo and no-tempo will. So, given the chance, picking cursed blade over non-Doctor cards can't hurt _too_ bad. Well, metaphorically.
+JAHurley41 I've regretted picking warmaul every single time it came up in my arenas. It always hits face without fail, even if you're attacking a taunt creature. Way worse than cursed blade
+Happily chubby flygon I never get these type of comments. He just went 12-1 with this deck, and he used Cursed Blade to help win 5 of those. And you could argue he would've lost to that one rogue anyway, and Cursed Blade only sped it up a little bit.
+Happily chubby flygon How'd you figure that? We only saw it in 6 of these matches... only 1 of which he lost in which the cursed blade really didn't matter, since he drew it after he'd already lost. It definitely won him that 7th match and is probably the cause for 3-4 of the other wins. It's a good card *in the right deck* and this is certainly the right deck... it's bad in Trump's usual decks though.
Taking 20 from the Silent night is a play that I feel few people would have made, but that ended up winning the game. I hope people understand why Trump values cursed blade now
At 28:00 would frothing, hit face, cleave have been better? It would have cleared the board, but would have used cleave instead of slam and not have drawn a card and saved 4 health. And it may have kept the frothing on the board for an extra turn.
Keeping Cursed Blade for 5 turns would be nuts. If you hit 4 minions with 3 attack, you'd lose 24 hp. You'd have a major risk of a sudden loss unless the opponent somehow manages to only play 1-2 attack minions. And that's assuming you attack all minions before they can attack you.
+Jacob S Warrior is not trash tier anymore =/= Getting 12 wins with Warrior is normal. Kripparrian himself actually agrees and he's been repeatedly pessimistic with his Warrior arena decks.
Cursed blade is a good card... IF AND ONLY IF it is used in the early game to clear out low attack minions or get in free damage to the opponents face. If you have a cursed blade equipped after turn 4 and you aren't in a decisive winning position, you clearly aren't giving the negative effect the respect it deserves.
Lol wtf is wrong with trump? He got 12 wins with the bad classes, like shaman and hunter and he lost so quickly with the strong classes like paladin, dafuq
I love how some of the ways the lines in this game tell little stories:
"One day, I'll be a real knight!"
"Not on my watch!"
*Garrosh enters game* "Victory or death!"
*Instant concede* "I choose death"
Heh
+Loki from binding of isaac I prefer when the warrior starts roping
"I must choose!"
"I choose death!"
Mc tech attacks "who are you"
Mysterious challenger is played "who am i? None of your business"
+Duhad
Anduin: "The light shall bring victory!"
Garrosh: "Victory...or DEATH!?"
the cursed blade plays are just insane
-Random Dude: "Woah man, I'm tired of all those secret pallys, gonna play some arena!".
-Accept: "Nope".
I got wood watching that pseudo-cancer Pally get rocked.
+TheZackofSpades you should go to a doctor
+Blaze Taleo Dr Seven?
TheZackofSpades No a doctor
The Cursed Blade Plan:
Step 1: Get yourself to 4 life by turn 5
Step 2: Win.
17=4 Kappa
15:55
"One day, I'll be a real knight!"
"Not on my watch."
And then he covers Squire in protective bubble wrap like a paranoid suburban mother.
'One day, I'll be a real knight.'
'Not on my watch.'
+TheFireflyGrave Poor fella
+TheFireflyGrave your name man too soon ;_; it will never not be too soon.
+TheFireflyGrave like the father and his son xD ikr
Cursed Blade, Dancing Swords, Corsair, The dream! Said no one ever.
13:15
Balls of steel if I've ever seen it.
Guy plays Black Knight when Trump has three taunts in hand lol FeelsBadMan
Cursed blade, because the only health point that matters is the one before dying.
Perhaps Trump's success with Cursed Blade this run is in part because of his relatively large number of taunt creatures. Trump doesn't normally value taunt very highly (often having 0-1 in his entire arena deck), but when you are going to knock yourself down to 4 health, holding off further face damage becomes more important.
+Nerdnumberone I would honestly call it more "succeeding despite Cursed Blade"... seriously that dumb sword meant he had to do so many awkward, janky plays just so he wouldn't die on turn 4 like turn 3 coin mortal strike... I means seriously now when would that EVER have been the correct play in any other circumstance.
I just don't understand this weird fixation with this garbage card. Especially because he's run plenty of times now and lost because of it.
I don't watch his streams - is he just trolling or is he really this deluded about that card?
+CloakingDonkey
I do think Trump is slightly overestimating the card, but the card really isn't that bad. Cursed Blade has the potential to kill 2 or 3 cards for 1 mana, which is great for acquiring tempo and board control.
Health isn't important as long as you can control the board. (and aren't facing excessive burst), because then your opponent simply doesn't have the means to kill you. Even if you take a ton of damage clearing your enemies board, it doesn't matter if it allows you to build up a winning board presence in the meantime. It's the same principle classic Zoolock used to win games.
Cursed Blade does become really painful when you are losing the board, but if you are losing that race even with 3 'free' 2-damage shots to kill minions you'd probably have lost anyway.
+CloakingDonkey Says "the fascination with this thing is just weird and unhealthy", proceeds to post multiple ranting comments about it on UA-cam.
+CloakingDonkey In part 1, there are 2 games (that I remember) which really show how good the card can be. In the first match, it saved the 3/2 and, later, the 3/4. Sure it dealt 7 damage to Trump in so doing (half of what he took) but the tempo let him get a pretty easy win. In the 7th match, it let him have a VERY strong turn 6 (2/3 weapon, 3/3 taunt and 2/4 frothing) which pushed for lethal, thanks to aggressive cards in hand.
The issue is that Trump seems to consider it to be a "control" card... it's really not. In this run, he used it to semi-control in an aggressive deck, which works out VERY well. Being aggressive, you can afford to damage yourself in order to save your minions and push more damage in. You're putting enough pressure for your low life total not to matter too much, since the opponent will be too worried about his own life total to be able to push yours down more.
If you have a more control-heavy deck (like Trump's usual), then you will constantly be scrambling to save yourself, due to low health, which is NOT good at all.
Cursed blade lets you win a game, sure - if you have it in your starting hand, have good follow ups and the opponent plays the right minions. But it will make you lose more games and also be a dead card sometimes. And the games people said he won because of the card could actually be won anyway, especially if you have a good deck generally. So when you add this up it's a bad card.... There you have the final facts about the card, haha..
That first game was painful.
Its all about board controll
+Nikita Glazkov An earlier cursed blade would have been great eh
Trump, here's a rule. ROGUES ALWAYS HAVE BACKSTAB IN THEIR STARTING HAND.
Rogue*
+The Great And Mighty Sandwich no he's correct
+Ben Shafer I'm guessing you missed the little (edited) mark next to his comment.
+Jeppz Postman maybe
+The Great And Mighty Sandwich Rogues*
This is like Groundhog Day where every morning Trump goes 12 wins only to have his arena dreams crushed by evening.
If Ogre Brute did a 100 in 10 Arena Run Challenge, then he would get 120 in 10. That's how smart he is SMOrc
SMOrc FACE IS THE PLACE SMOrc
+OfficialOlue brute go face. YEP, brute is smart, YEP, brute MVP? YEP Brute trade? Nope! brute hit taunt? Nope! brute go 12-1? YEP
i honestly feel like trump has good ideas about cursed blade, he might overvalue it a bit just to be a differing opinion but generally his ideas about it are solid looking
+Onyxiboy certainly it isn't the trash that most like to put it down as
if you can play it early.
This is easily Trump's luckiest arena of all time.
someone has probably already done this but 15:55 "Someday, i'll be a real knight!" "Not on my watch!"
In the opponents mind:
13:00: "I can't believe this moron just took 10 damage"
18:53: "Impossible! How could my op secret paladin arena draft lose to this terrible deck?"
Trumps done a really good job on this draft.
Why proc Avenge on the Mysterious Challenger? Is it not better to just Mortal Strike it and avoid proccing Avenge so 4/1 survives?
+DarkbloomTV Assuming it wasn't an oversight, it was to play around Redemption. I would've done as you suggested, though.
Ogre Brute; MVP team leader
Trump, your balls with the Cursed Blade are truly impressive. Kudos.
"One day, I'm going to be a real knight!"
"Not on my watch!"
New series: 'Ogre Brute's teaching: How to hit face'
15:55 "One day I'll be a real knight!" "Not on my watch!"
Upgrading cursed blade should also increase damage multiplier by 1 :D
steady shot for 6 hahahah
+Yang Yafei 4 mana fireball for a casual 18 damage
"casual"
Did he just FACEROLL ALL THESE PEOPLE???
+John Trellston he did, and it was beautiful
+John Trellston
He met a lot of bad players, yes
Holy shit that rogue in game 1, that opening was pure unwelcome buttsecks
10:26 Is the sickest match I've seen in a while.
LOL that Secret paladin with his Doctor 6 was soooo salty.
Casual 20 damage to face for board control.
That's how you go 12/1 with a deck like this.
Well played trump. Sick decision making in wins for 9-1 and 10-1!!
That first rogue made me cry.
7-0 Rogue
What do you expact xD
Seriously has the final boss music been removed forever?
+Achallon Has been removed forever, after this run.
Was it disliked a lot by others?
Ogre Brute told you to hit face and you actually did it. You absolute madman.
Such a good Arena! Didn't think he would trump them so hard.
the 10th win was masterfully played on 1 health, but that still doesnt dismiss the fact that cursed blade, will never be good
+JAHurley41 And until you learn to let go of your hatred of tempo-only cards, you shall never fully master tempo warrior.
liger04 Not hatred, unspeakable contempt, the drafts will not always favor you, and picking a cursed blade will not often cause your deck to spiral into tempo
JAHurley41 That's true, but picking no tempo will screw you many more times than having a mismatched deck of hyper-tempo and no-tempo will. So, given the chance, picking cursed blade over non-Doctor cards can't hurt _too_ bad. Well, metaphorically.
liger04 I'd sooner pick warmaul than cursed blade, weak against mages, rogues, even shamans can surprise it cuz of their mad spell damage
+JAHurley41 I've regretted picking warmaul every single time it came up in my arenas. It always hits face without fail, even if you're attacking a taunt creature. Way worse than cursed blade
i dont often run cursed blade
but when i do, i get frozen every turn
What the crap XD can't believe you won on that game where you took 20 damage in like 2 turns, holy crap that's awesome
15:08 not using mortal strike on mysterious challenger first made no goddamn sense
Feels like Trump might be getting way better at realizing when it's time to go face and race the opponent.
+Alloran no, the ogre brute is the one that carries trump to victory and tells him when to go face
All hail the Brute. He is truly the hero we need.
Trump has proven to me that cursed blade wins 1 out of every 8 games. Now it's 9.
+Happily chubby flygon
I never get these type of comments. He just went 12-1 with this deck, and he used Cursed Blade to help win 5 of those. And you could argue he would've lost to that one rogue anyway, and Cursed Blade only sped it up a little bit.
+Happily chubby flygon How'd you figure that? We only saw it in 6 of these matches... only 1 of which he lost in which the cursed blade really didn't matter, since he drew it after he'd already lost. It definitely won him that 7th match and is probably the cause for 3-4 of the other wins.
It's a good card *in the right deck* and this is certainly the right deck... it's bad in Trump's usual decks though.
+Happily chubby flygon maybe try rewatching the vids then bud
Warrior is apparently best arena class now.
(What do you mean "too small sample size"?)
+Magnus Holmgren the best is Paladin... Just Accept.
+Magnus Holmgren (What do you mean "the last 4 CB fetish runs were utter failures?")
+CloakingDonkey Says "the fascination with this thing is just weird and unhealthy", proceeds to post multiple ranting comments about it on UA-cam.
+CloakingDonkey
Still crying about cursed blade.
Fen Y You know it, buddy!
"I will use Upgrade WHILE Cursed Blade is equipped" sounds a lot like "I will punch this puma in the jaw WHILE wearing a dress made of raw steak"
The power of agro warrior. It is ocasionally a thing
That's some sick use of Cursed Blade.
Your cursed blade has now been....Trumpgraded. I'm sorry.
Taking 20 from the Silent night is a play that I feel few people would have made, but that ended up winning the game.
I hope people understand why Trump values cursed blade now
+NeXtDracool Nah, they'll forever point to that Rogue game and go like SEE I TOLD U ITS A BAD CARD!!!!!
Will you ever do only basic cards ladder climbing? starting from rank 20.
+Mike21DaisuGaming he said that there is no point in laddering until standard roles around
Cursed Blade makes for exciting games, that's for sure
At 28:00 would frothing, hit face, cleave have been better? It would have cleared the board, but would have used cleave instead of slam and not have drawn a card and saved 4 health. And it may have kept the frothing on the board for an extra turn.
Best to kill the 4-2 first to stop card draw
+Efi +Kastlexcore Good point about the cult master completely forgot it draws on minion death.
+TheDivinicus Under no circumstance should you give someone topdecking 3 free cards.
I cant believe Trump writes "gullible" at the end of his every description
you almost got me
Keeping Cursed Blade for 5 turns would be nuts. If you hit 4 minions with 3 attack, you'd lose 24 hp. You'd have a major risk of a sudden loss unless the opponent somehow manages to only play 1-2 attack minions. And that's assuming you attack all minions before they can attack you.
That bird in the background xD
I'm questioning every play you made against that first paladin
*****
as I said, everything
I no longer think Cursed Blade is bad... The 9-1 game against the pally was amazing.
+Fred Fox It was just the right amount of value and control he needed from it.
That last paladin could have destroyed the yeti by giving it taunt and didn't see it lol
"it's never dart trap... it's dart trap" made me kek
Saw the thumpnail and thought it was another dankest dungeon video.
.. I was wrong FeelsBadMan with the gun
glorious warrior arena master race
that kill command face hunter, I swear this class is driving the community to degradation
+Edzter that's loda's girlfriend LOL
+Anton Sergeev
Then you likely play hunter like that as well
Anton Sergeev against a 20 hp warrior with full board control in arena. Ok. thanks for the win
Anton Sergeev
Reading for you: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LetsSeeYOUDoBetter
at 28:00 you could go berzerker into hit face and then cleave. if you would have done this he would not be able to kill the berzerker
This warrior deck is a lot like my best deck I ever drafted, it was a warrior with a lot of weapons for burst, it went 11-3
That 11th game was just... Wow
I have been watching trump arena videos for about a year now and I just noticed that he puts his curve in the thumbnails for the videos...
Everyone here who's surprised that he did so well with Warrior has never watched a Kripparian stream I guess.
+Jacob S Warrior is not trash tier anymore =/= Getting 12 wins with Warrior is normal. Kripparrian himself actually agrees and he's been repeatedly pessimistic with his Warrior arena decks.
No comments? Comon, i can't watch videos without reading comments at the same time
+vvwast That's certainly an original take on 'first.'
+TheFireflyGrave i don't give a fuck if I'm first or not, and i hate kids who say first, and i wasn't trying to say first in another way
I'd just like to point out that Trump subtlety quotes Katy Perry in this video. That was a thing.
Proof of the Cursed Blade's value.
+Rez
It beats shit opponents, that is it's power
trump just cant get enough of that sweet sweet damage
That fucking paladin game had me on the edge of my seat.
Ultimate bravery, god damn. :|
Do heroes say special emotes for 12 wins?
No
+Vuk Belcevic aw damn
Victory for the true Horde!
last game: he could have given your minion taunt and execute it with dark knight..
but whatever
that first game is pretty much every time i face a paladin, mage, or a rogue.
is that the real kellymilkies on game 2?
Damn that SMORC Feelsgoodman
Man if I had that cursed blade against that mage I would of gotten double frostbolted for sure, can I have some of your luck trump?
Trump 3:16 says I just whipped your ass!
54% paladin 27% mage 18% hunter 18%rogue 0%shaman 0%druid 0%priest 0% warlock
1 BADASS warrior
sooooooo...warrior became legit in arena?
*Picks cursed blade* Goes 12 wins-Cursed blade is good.
+Anona Socah Except how many games out of the 12 did he actually /play/ cursed blade? :)
+sikenofy
One, and lost.
+Anona Socah its shit card
HrothgarHeavenlight He played cursed blade in more than 1 game. xD
new cursed blade constructed hype
22:41 Trump singing Katy Perry in the shower confirmed.
I just realized the misfortune that is his name considering who trump is
+J Reid I often used google (or UA-cam's search) to quickly get to Trump's UA-cam. Now I need to search for "trumpsc" instead.
Is he still with TSM?
Well done Trump! Mayor of Value Town!
Dat Katy Perry reference at 22:38 >w
Cursed Blade Warrior new Arena meta?! PogChamp
Cursed blade is a good card... IF AND ONLY IF it is used in the early game to clear out low attack minions or get in free damage to the opponents face.
If you have a cursed blade equipped after turn 4 and you aren't in a decisive winning position, you clearly aren't giving the negative effect the respect it deserves.
27:53 attack sword smith with weapon, then use slam on cult master.
Because making an empty-handed opponent draw 4 cards is the best option.
+Dave Z oh yea my bad.
Lol wtf is wrong with trump? He got 12 wins with the bad classes, like shaman and hunter and he lost so quickly with the strong classes like paladin, dafuq
+vvwast underdog luck
+vvwast yeah and here i am with killer paladin decks with dr boom and mysterious challenger that only average 3 wins. #rigged
12 with shaman??????????
+vvwast
Variance... A word he hasn't used as much lately is quite revealing here.
+Harvey Sullivan that indicates that you kinda suck at hearthstone, sry
14:45 It was at that very moment, I wanted to puke
13:10 "take 10 damage and kill it for free".
THATS NOT FREE
So, cursed blade made to 12 wins...
I think you keep the cursed blade for 2 long
you hae really the biggest ball at the planet to your tenth victories (sorry for the false, i'm french)
+Gaël Goasdoué Jvais te donner un coup de main ;) False veux dire Faux. Tu veux utiliser le mot "mistake" pour erreur ou faute.
merci ;) j'en prend note :)
Really nice arena run.
OMG! Cursed blade is so bad. You died!
;_; trump you're breaking my heart. Cursed blade is bad, just accept it.
THIS IS THE RUN!!!!!!!!! - MB