Dad has an E with a K cab on it. It also has a three row narrow corn head and he being a small dairy farmer had bought it for the same reason as the previous owner of this combine. I harvested 22 acres of oats with it a couple of years ago.
I started running combine with an E in 1968, I was 13 , I did custom work when I was 16 cutting rye. I was cutting for a farmer and he was riding with me and he disappeared, I stopped and got out of the cab to look, he shouted “what’s wrong “, I looked and he was up on top of the cab smoking his pipe, riding . I jumped back in and took off.
Interesting. In our area we farm with hillside combines they sold Cs Gs and Ms all with factory installed leveling gear extremely simple and easy to maintain.
Kudos, we ran the pull behind style Gleaner in the 60's on our MN farm section. They "cleaned" better than any other brand, the folks at the grainery loved the grain it processed as it was ready for storage rather than pre=processing for dust.
Pretty cool old combine. I’ve never ran a gleaner before. I started out running a 1960 John Deere 45 in 1983 at 14 years of age. I then stepped up to IH combines with cabs with heat and air conditioning. I farmed soybeans when I started farming back then. I would definitely run yours, it’s a nice machine.
Had to chuckle a little bit when you mentioned the sealed bearings. My dad had one of those with the wide rows head. He bought a five gallon bucket full of those 1” greaseless bearings at an auction and I believe he put every one on that combine!
Nice E. Thanks for sharing. I had an A2 and K2 both with 330 heads. Both had helper springs on header lift cylinders. It's hard for me to imagine the e has enough power to handle 3 rows of 100 but corn. Please do a video shelling corn. Okey combines in Oxford NC should have parts. Thanks
My dad has only ever used Allis Chalmers equipment and nothing else. Ease of use and maintenance was his priority. Air conditioning was added by finding junk campers and removing the units from the roof and mounting on the combine roof. Excellent condition machine and great video
@@turnindirtandwrenches Some of the older models are definitely 12 volt and we were able to adapt the one wire GM style alternator for plenty of power to run air conditioning and lights for cutting at night!
Saw a guy in the Farm Show magazine out in Kansas who was telling how the A/C quit in his old Gleaner, was leaking freon and would lose it in a couple days or so, and that's too expensive to just put a puff in now all the time. SO instead of farting around with it, he just put a window unit A/C like you'd put in a house window, and bolted a little generator on the back of the combine by the fuel tank, and ran an extension cord to run it off the generator unit putting out 110 AC power. Said it works like a champ and will just about frost the windows on a 100 degree day, WAY better than the factory unit EVER could cool!
@@turnindirtandwrenches Saw a guy in the Farm Show magazine out in Kansas who was telling how the A/C quit in his old Gleaner, was leaking freon and would lose it in a couple days or so, and that's too expensive to just put a puff in now all the time. SO instead of farting around with it, he just put a window unit A/C like you'd put in a house window, and bolted a little generator on the back of the combine by the fuel tank, and ran an extension cord to run it off the generator unit putting out 110 AC power. Said it works like a champ and will just about frost the windows on a 100 degree day, WAY better than the factory unit EVER could cool!
First combine I ran was Dad's Gleaner E. It did a nice job, as you say. The single control lever was genius. The 4 cyl engine was a little short on power, but it did the job. Cab was short on comfort items but I didn't mind that at the time. Overall the combine was reliable and easy to work on.
Claas made it even simpler... everything except reel speed controlled off that one lever, only it was a rotary valve with about four different slots... the furthest to the left had a little offset "neutral" notch so you didn't go into it accidentally, that one forward sped up the cylinder hydraulic variator (variable sheave pulley) and backward slowed it down. The next one raised and lowered the header, the next groove sped up and slowed down the ground speed variator, and the right hand slot in the rotary controller raised and lowered the reel height to the cutterbar. So when you were running you basically just sped up and slowed down in the middle notch and raised and lowered the head in the one next to it... if you got into short crop and wanted to lower the reel you went all the way to the right, forward raised it back lowered it. Easy peasy. 3 speed transmission shifter was behind that, with the throttle and choke behind that. 3 levers on the LH side of the seat, first one engaged the header, second one was taller and engaged the separator, third one by the cab door was the same height as the first one (a little shorter than the middle one) and engaged the unload auger. You stepped out of the cab and grabbed a knob on a rod and pulled the auger up, and then the rod had a round eye with a latch that locked onto a pin to secure the auger up and out into position, it was all spring assist so you just needed a light pull to raise the auger. Then you could return to your seat and turn the unload lever on to dump on the go. You could leave the auger up if you wanted. Usually it tracked well enough I could stand up, step out the side of the cab onto the running board, raise the auger, and pull the unload lever and just give the steering wheel a slight tweak if it had drifted a bit over off the row center to bring it back, and stand out on the running board and watch the unload... One nice feature that Claas put in their machines was, you had a lever and quadrant under the seat, that adjusted the concave clearance. So ALL your adjustments but chaffer and sieve clearance and amount of air could be adjusted from the seat. Reel speed was adjusted by a cable-operated variator that you cranked clockwise and anticlockwise a few turns to speed up or slow down the reel to match the ground speed. You had a ground speed indicator and the cylinder speed indicator right on the steering column either side of the wheel, and there was a horn and red light with a flapper plate and horn button above the straw walkers, so if the machine plugged up and a wad was building on the straw walkers, it would sound the horn and light up the light to alert you to stop. Never had it go off in the life of the machine though... even when combining grain sorghum ate up with morning glory vines and we had to open the concave all the way to let the slugs through without slugging the machine; it'd just toss the unthreshed wads of heads and vines onto the walkers and pitch them out the back... you'd close down the concave after you heard the "BRRRT" of the wad going through the cylinder and went right back to threshing til you saw the next wad go under the auger and up the feederhouse. Dad and Grandpa paid for that combine in a year because of that single feature that NO other combine had back in the mid-70's... some guy planted a few thousand acres of grain sorghum and it was a hot, wet June and the morning glories came on like gangbusters, and the whole field looked like a mat of vines... all sewed up along the row and across the rows... He put the word out that any custom cutters who could get through it could have all the work they wanted. By mid-afternoon everybody else had quit-- no other combine could get through it but the Claas/Ford. He cut for that guy for a month or so and got it all...
@lukestrawwalker Can you explain again the one feature that no other combine had in the mid 70"s that your dad and grandpa liked. That it had an alarm before plugging? I'm not quite following. Thanks.
I've stared down a few rows of corn on an E. I can't imagine what a NARROWER machine would feel like on a hill. 2 Row 30" had to be Hell to keep upright when you ran over a Cob.
The E3 i had hooked the same i had a K 3 row 30 head it had the hooks on top i had to bolt the tube off the K it bolts on the feeder house it worked great it is a D17 engine the water pump is different and maybe the front crank staft pully not for sure
I had an E with a two row wide head and 10 foot green platform and then I had a K with a three row 30 and a 12 foot platform very good combines good and clean grain
My K is a survivor. I'm the third owner. The first only used it in oats for 40 years, the second did a few years of organic corn, and now I'm doing small grains. I've been most of this harvest season without a cluch, but it's still taking off grain any million dollar brand new combine would struggle with.
@@turnindirtandwrenches Operator tolerance and attentiveness. New stuff needs to tell the operator everything because the operator is probably scrolling Tiktok while jamming out with earbuds in. Not knocking music, I live in my Worktunes.
You really got something there.. if one is planting 100 acres or less that is perfect. I have a lot of time on an open station E. We switched to F combines later and ran them for 40 years. The only thing is they were not designed for 200 bu/ acre corn so one has to drive very slow but the job they do is phenomenal.
Dad ran about 300 acres with his E although some of that was seeded to alfalfa every year as the crops were rotated. But we always combined the cover crop of oats with each new seeding. Breakdowns were rare for the E.
@@SilverGleaner It's a great machine, good on fuel too. I haven't had many problems with it, and when I did I could fix it in the field without much trouble.
Hello loved your video the problem you have with your grain loose in the header is the same problem i had on my A2. I solved the problem by looking at newer heads. What i did was make some heavy rubber flaps drilled holes in the flanges at the front of the head and bolted the rubber flaps to these brackets . This prevented the corn ears from rolling out the front of the head. hope this helps.....
@@turnindirtandwrenches E was the smallest. Then the A. c was the biggest. Then the "2" series. In 1968 the F and bigger G models came out. Gleaner alphabet soup.
A Gleaner E, “Ah” here in Ontario we referred them to the Sliver Seeder. The later models had the slant 6 Chrysler engine in them. Not many around but I guess they did alright
@@turnindirtandwrenches yep... Our Ford/Claas 640 came with a book "guide to better combining" and basically it walked you through the steps to setting a combine-- works the same on any machine since the process is the same to thresh, separate, and clean. Talked about the fact that every adjustment affects the others, and some adjustments INCREASE capacity and some decrease it. For instance, speeding up the cylinder increases throughput, slowing it down decreases it. Likewise, opening up the concave increases throughput, closing the concave clearance decreases it. Ground speed is the same, speed up to keep the combine loaded, slow down if it's overloaded. Main difference on a Gleaner of that vintage is, they don't do ANY separating at the cylinder and concave-- only in the raddle and straw walkers. This is actually good for hard to thresh crops like some small grains, but for others like soybeans or corn it's not much benefit and can crack grain. Concave clearance and cylinder speed are more important on a Gleaner to prevent that. Basically concave clearance should just about be a cob diameter at the back, maybe a tad more, but that's pretty much every machine. Claas, Deere, and everybody else separates probably 90% of the grain out the bottom of the concave. I think the later Gleaners did too, went from a "closed" solid concave to an open wire one with a raddle underneath to move the grain and chaff back out from under it, IIRC, to increase capacity. Cylinder speed, you want the fastest you can get away with without cracking grain, this gives the most capacity. If you're cracking grain you can open the concave a bit, you basically want the concave closed no more than necessary to get complete threshing without busting up the cobs or seeing unthreshed pods or heads getting through. A few small tip kernels or unthreshed kernels in the top of a grain head (like sorghum or small grains, whatever) is acceptable, since they don't add much to weight or yield and closing down enough to get every single one causes problems and slows you down more than they're worth. If you're seeing cracked grain in the tank, check two things-- amount of tailings coming back up to the thresher, since grain is WAY more likely to crack during the second pass through the thresher, so too much tailings results in cracked grain, which reducing tailings is a cleaning shoe adjustment, unless your UNDERTHRESHING (too open on the concave too slow on the cylinder speed, but that's very rare to do). If you're getting cracked grain and tailings are minimal, open the concave a bit or slow down the cylinder, or both. The separator is pretty much on its own-- main thing is make sure the straw walkers are running at the right speed, which is typically a function of engine RPM's which should be set to factory high-idle speed (governor speed). A book on the machine will tell you how to test for it and adjust the engine governor if needed. The only other factor is not to go so fast you overload the separator/walkers... don't feed more material than it can fluff and toss and allow the grain to fall out and into the bottom of the walkers and deliver to the shoe. Usually the thresher will overload before the walkers will. May be some adjustment tricks to the raddle as well since it does a great deal of separation moving the grain, chaff, and straw/cobs/stalks back to the walkers... The cleaning shoe is pretty easy to adjust. You always want to use as much air as possible for the seed size/weight for the crop your threshing. Smaller lighter seed like canola for instance requires you cut the air back a lot compared to large coarse heavy grain like corn or soybeans. The other factor is opening size of the chaffer/sieve. Of course more open means more capacity, as the grain can pour through it faster with larger openings, allowing more grain to pass through in a given amount of time. Adjusting to smaller openings by closing down the chaffer/sieve reduced throughput and capacity. Basically the ideal is to run as much air as possible without blowing grain out the back, although a few underdeveloped or insect-sucked seeds going out the back aren't worth choking the machine down and putting dirty grain in the tank to keep, and to run the chaffer/sieve as FAR OPEN as possible without getting too much trash in the tank or unthreshed parts of cob, pods, or head fragments. On our Ford/Claas 640, we ran the air wide open all the time, and started with the chaffer and sieve wide open and closed down a bit after a test run in the field, usually to about the third notch from wide open, and we put really nice clean grain in the tank and didn't have anything going on the ground but a few underdeveloped kernels or insect bitten stuff that was trash anyway. Running with an 18 foot head I could basically run wide open on the ground speed most of the time and did a great job. If you start seeing whitecaps in the tank, close the chaffer/sieve a bit. If you're getting too much tailings from underthreshed stuff like head fragments in small grains and sorghum, you need to speed up the cylinder or close the concave clearance a bit to increase threshing on the first pass. If you're seeing bits of underthreshed heads or pods or whatever in the grain tank, close the chaffer a notch or two. If you're seeing clean threshed grain in the tailings, open up the chaffer a bit or slow down a tad and give it time to drop through the chaffer and sieve. Riding grain out the back is almost always running too fast for the conditions/yield, AND/or the chaffer being closed too much... why you want to start with the chaffer wide open and close down as necessary so you're not putting just chunks of cob or threshed pods or sticks or whatever in the tailings, material too heavy to blow out the back off the chaffer/sieve but small enough to drop through the fully open chaffer... It always amazes me how 40-50-60 year old machines can turn out cleaner samples than these new monsters, but then again, guys back then knew how to actually ADJUST the machine to conditions, and how to get the most out of it without overloading it and doing a bad job. I've seen jokers rent these big new 400 horsepower monster combines and were delivering soybeans to the elevator that looked like a bag of split pea soup-- nearly every bean in the truck was split! Old combines would DEFINITELY tell you if it wasn't running right, because the engine would lug and the machine would howl or growl or groan and you'd look in the tank and go, "oops need to adjust it!". These new machines with the sealed pressurized cabs with the full stereo system, and a big huge diesel turning the thing, they'll grind it to powder with power to spare and you'd never know the difference if you don't CHECK on how it's operating and then ADJUST according to what you see. That's the difference between an OPERATOR and just some lug-nut holding the steering wheel and pushing buttons.
@@lukestrawwalkerI've been taking off lodged, weedy oats with a Gleaner K and have a little ragweed in the tank, but don't think I've dropped a piece of grain that wasn't from over filling the bin the make the last few feet of a row or from missing the wagon a little bit in the dark. Meanwhile, a neighbor with a 9600 STS left enough wheat behind that he won't have to plant a cover crop in some of his fields.
@@saikotikgunman yup... I've run the BILs 9600. Biggest problem with new combines is they've increased threshing capacity WAY beyond what the cleaning shoe can handle... So it rides grain over if your trying to get it clean, or you put dirty grain in the tank to keep it in the machine and not on the ground
I have my dad's and grandfather E111 with 10 foot header and corn header and pickup unfortunately it sat outside. This is a 1969 was 10,000 dollars Canadian brand-new
@@turnindirtandwrenches about right for Canada Ontario my dad's 1969 4020 was 10,000 brand new with no cab sinker range side console duel remotes. It was the tractor that made Deere has over 16000 hours on the engine still have it
@@turnindirtandwrenches I want to say yes, but I’m not sure. His had a cab. My dad had an open station Gleaner. Unfortunately my dad passed away 8 years ago or I’d ask him.
I wouldn't say best one ever. Those in that ERA with out all the technology were the best ever. Back when you were a true operator and listened. Up thru the L series...Cleaner Gleaners...
How much did it cost to replace everything? There is a Gleaner F near me that I would like to get running and I would like to get a ballpark of the cost.
@@turnindirtandwrenches Thank you, I don’t think it would need everything because it hasn’t sat for quite as long. But that’s a good estimate for me. Thanks.
I'm about 9 miles from full vision cab company Newton , Kansas. Do you have the straw spreader for that combine? John Deere calls hydraulic speed adjustment variable speed. The cylinder concave machine will do a good job of threshing. (John Deere , gleaner)
Do you know what the word glean means? Are neighbor is a custom harvester. About 30 yrs ago he told me this. A guy wanted to be a custom harvester bought a gleaner. Talked to a farmer. Yes you can help me harvest! He made a round around the field. The farmer got on the combine , looked in the grain tank! Did you adjust this combine? His answer was I have to adjust it!.
Yes the combine needed adjusted. All the combines made around time that E gleaner was made were cylinder/concave combines. That is the same ideal the threshing machines used. Each company made little changes they thought made their machine better. The neighbor that told me the story run John Deer a few yrs then run gleaner a few yrs. I grew up around John Deere. Gleaner was referred to as a good combine. Cylinder/concave gap and speed. Fan speed. Gap on the sieves. Ground speed. We adjusted are combine different for each crop.
@williammatzek4660 The E is a very good and very simple combine. My dad used one from 1977 through 1997. I bought my E in 1988 and still use it for oats when I grow oats. It was the best soybean combine I ever owned. Real clean sample that was easy to achieve. My R52 gets the cleanest corn sample than any combine I've run.
@williammatzek4660 Yes we need rock traps or the rock ejection door that the Gleaners had. I live in MN in a township named Rock Dell. We have rocks. :)
@@turnindirtandwrenches All combines are designed to capture grain, Allis Chalmers was one of the best. The "silver seeder pheasant feeder" is used by competition because Allis Chalmers owned the combine market back in the day.
We ran an E3 years ago. Our local elevator said the cleanest samples were all from Gleaners.
I believe it. They do a really good job!
The rubber slit on the right side to reach the separator engage and unloader engage is hilarious!
Yeah, just put a dinky sliding window..
Dad has an E with a K cab on it. It also has a three row narrow corn head and he being a small dairy farmer had bought it for the same reason as the previous owner of this combine. I harvested 22 acres of oats with it a couple of years ago.
That's neat, the narrow row corn heads are pretty rare.
I started running combine with an E in 1968, I was 13 , I did custom work when I was 16 cutting rye. I was cutting for a farmer and he was riding with me and he disappeared, I stopped and got out of the cab to look, he shouted “what’s wrong “, I looked and he was up on top of the cab smoking his pipe, riding . I jumped back in and took off.
He just wanted a better view!
I have a three row corn head on my E I have the extension sides on the hooper to. He's right best combine out there doesn't put any grain out the back
Thank you for taking the time to share this video 👍
No problem! I enjoy doing it, and am glad other people enjoy it too!
Interesting. In our area we farm with hillside combines they sold Cs Gs and Ms all with factory installed leveling gear extremely simple and easy to maintain.
That's what I think. The E is so simple, not much to go wrong.
Kudos, we ran the pull behind style Gleaner in the 60's on our MN farm section. They "cleaned" better than any other brand, the folks at the grainery loved the grain it processed as it was ready for storage rather than pre=processing for dust.
What model pull behind was it?
I have a 67 E that I use every other year to cut beans, nice machine.
Yes it is!
Pretty cool old combine. I’ve never ran a gleaner before. I started out running a 1960 John Deere 45 in 1983 at 14 years of age. I then stepped up to IH combines with cabs with heat and air conditioning. I farmed soybeans when I started farming back then. I would definitely run yours, it’s a nice machine.
Thank you!
Thanks for the education it's helpful.
No problem!
Had to chuckle a little bit when you mentioned the sealed bearings. My dad had one of those with the wide rows head. He bought a five gallon bucket full of those 1” greaseless bearings at an auction and I believe he put every one on that combine!
Yeah, I wish they were all greaseable. The parts guy has to make a living somehow.
Nice E. Thanks for sharing. I had an A2 and K2 both with 330 heads. Both had helper springs on header lift cylinders. It's hard for me to imagine the e has enough power to handle 3 rows of 100 but corn. Please do a video shelling corn. Okey combines in Oxford NC should have parts. Thanks
Thanks for the info! I have two old short videos up of me doing corn. One with 2 rows one with 3. I'll do a better one this fall.
Very nice combine, would be awesome to see it in operation.
Thank you! I'll get some videos of it working this fall.
My dad has only ever used Allis Chalmers equipment and nothing else. Ease of use and maintenance was his priority. Air conditioning was added by finding junk campers and removing the units from the roof and mounting on the combine roof. Excellent condition machine and great video
That's a good idea! Are rv air conditioners 12v?
@@turnindirtandwrenches Some of the older models are definitely 12 volt and we were able to adapt the one wire GM style alternator for plenty of power to run air conditioning and lights for cutting at night!
I might have to look into that! Thanks!
Saw a guy in the Farm Show magazine out in Kansas who was telling how the A/C quit in his old Gleaner, was leaking freon and would lose it in a couple days or so, and that's too expensive to just put a puff in now all the time. SO instead of farting around with it, he just put a window unit A/C like you'd put in a house window, and bolted a little generator on the back of the combine by the fuel tank, and ran an extension cord to run it off the generator unit putting out 110 AC power. Said it works like a champ and will just about frost the windows on a 100 degree day, WAY better than the factory unit EVER could cool!
@@turnindirtandwrenches Saw a guy in the Farm Show magazine out in Kansas who was telling how the A/C quit in his old Gleaner, was leaking freon and would lose it in a couple days or so, and that's too expensive to just put a puff in now all the time. SO instead of farting around with it, he just put a window unit A/C like you'd put in a house window, and bolted a little generator on the back of the combine by the fuel tank, and ran an extension cord to run it off the generator unit putting out 110 AC power. Said it works like a champ and will just about frost the windows on a 100 degree day, WAY better than the factory unit EVER could cool!
First combine I ran was Dad's Gleaner E. It did a nice job, as you say. The single control lever was genius. The 4 cyl engine was a little short on power, but it did the job. Cab was short on comfort items but I didn't mind that at the time. Overall the combine was reliable and easy to work on.
It's just a good simple machine.
Claas made it even simpler... everything except reel speed controlled off that one lever, only it was a rotary valve with about four different slots... the furthest to the left had a little offset "neutral" notch so you didn't go into it accidentally, that one forward sped up the cylinder hydraulic variator (variable sheave pulley) and backward slowed it down. The next one raised and lowered the header, the next groove sped up and slowed down the ground speed variator, and the right hand slot in the rotary controller raised and lowered the reel height to the cutterbar. So when you were running you basically just sped up and slowed down in the middle notch and raised and lowered the head in the one next to it... if you got into short crop and wanted to lower the reel you went all the way to the right, forward raised it back lowered it. Easy peasy. 3 speed transmission shifter was behind that, with the throttle and choke behind that. 3 levers on the LH side of the seat, first one engaged the header, second one was taller and engaged the separator, third one by the cab door was the same height as the first one (a little shorter than the middle one) and engaged the unload auger. You stepped out of the cab and grabbed a knob on a rod and pulled the auger up, and then the rod had a round eye with a latch that locked onto a pin to secure the auger up and out into position, it was all spring assist so you just needed a light pull to raise the auger. Then you could return to your seat and turn the unload lever on to dump on the go. You could leave the auger up if you wanted. Usually it tracked well enough I could stand up, step out the side of the cab onto the running board, raise the auger, and pull the unload lever and just give the steering wheel a slight tweak if it had drifted a bit over off the row center to bring it back, and stand out on the running board and watch the unload... One nice feature that Claas put in their machines was, you had a lever and quadrant under the seat, that adjusted the concave clearance. So ALL your adjustments but chaffer and sieve clearance and amount of air could be adjusted from the seat. Reel speed was adjusted by a cable-operated variator that you cranked clockwise and anticlockwise a few turns to speed up or slow down the reel to match the ground speed. You had a ground speed indicator and the cylinder speed indicator right on the steering column either side of the wheel, and there was a horn and red light with a flapper plate and horn button above the straw walkers, so if the machine plugged up and a wad was building on the straw walkers, it would sound the horn and light up the light to alert you to stop. Never had it go off in the life of the machine though... even when combining grain sorghum ate up with morning glory vines and we had to open the concave all the way to let the slugs through without slugging the machine; it'd just toss the unthreshed wads of heads and vines onto the walkers and pitch them out the back... you'd close down the concave after you heard the "BRRRT" of the wad going through the cylinder and went right back to threshing til you saw the next wad go under the auger and up the feederhouse. Dad and Grandpa paid for that combine in a year because of that single feature that NO other combine had back in the mid-70's... some guy planted a few thousand acres of grain sorghum and it was a hot, wet June and the morning glories came on like gangbusters, and the whole field looked like a mat of vines... all sewed up along the row and across the rows... He put the word out that any custom cutters who could get through it could have all the work they wanted. By mid-afternoon everybody else had quit-- no other combine could get through it but the Claas/Ford. He cut for that guy for a month or so and got it all...
@lukestrawwalker Can you explain again the one feature that no other combine had in the mid 70"s that your dad and grandpa liked. That it had an alarm before plugging? I'm not quite following. Thanks.
We still use ours and like it. Does a good job.
They really do!
I've stared down a few rows of corn on an E. I can't imagine what a NARROWER machine would feel like on a hill. 2 Row 30" had to be Hell to keep upright when you ran over a Cob.
At least we don't have hills out here on the prairie.
The E3 i had hooked the same i had a K 3 row 30 head it had the hooks on top i had to bolt the tube off the K it bolts on the feeder house it worked great it is a D17 engine the water pump is different and maybe the front crank staft pully not for sure
That's good to know, thanks!
Beautiful gleaner i betit does a fantastic job
It sure does.
I had an E with a two row wide head and 10 foot green platform and then I had a K with a three row 30 and a 12 foot platform very good combines good and clean grain
They are the best!
Nice machines. Run many over the years. Tough ole bastards.
Yes they are!
Awesome!!
Thanks!
My K is a survivor. I'm the third owner. The first only used it in oats for 40 years, the second did a few years of organic corn, and now I'm doing small grains. I've been most of this harvest season without a cluch, but it's still taking off grain any million dollar brand new combine would struggle with.
I'm always amazed at how the old stuff can keep going even with major parts not working on them.
@@turnindirtandwrenches Operator tolerance and attentiveness. New stuff needs to tell the operator everything because the operator is probably scrolling Tiktok while jamming out with earbuds in. Not knocking music, I live in my Worktunes.
You really got something there.. if one is planting 100 acres or less that is perfect. I have a lot of time on an open station E. We switched to F combines later and ran them for 40 years. The only thing is they were not designed for 200 bu/ acre corn so one has to drive very slow but the job they do is phenomenal.
I think 100 acres would be a comfortable amount to do with one.
Dad ran about 300 acres with his E although some of that was seeded to alfalfa every year as the crops were rotated. But we always combined the cover crop of oats with each new seeding. Breakdowns were rare for the E.
@@SilverGleaner It's a great machine, good on fuel too. I haven't had many problems with it, and when I did I could fix it in the field without much trouble.
First time I've heard of the E the K was the lil combine around here
I believe the E is older then the K. The K replaced it I think.
The farm I work on has 7 k2 gleaners 2 are for parts the other 5 are field ready and they will starve a rooster they go so good
They really will!
Cool machine
Thanks!
Nice
Thanks!
Hello loved your video the problem you have with your grain loose in the header is the same problem i had on my A2. I solved the problem by looking at newer heads. What i did was make some heavy rubber flaps drilled holes in the flanges at the front of the head and bolted the rubber flaps to these brackets . This prevented the corn ears from rolling out the front of the head. hope this helps.....
I've seen those before, they do work. My problem is shelling at the stripper plates. I need a way to slow down the snapping rolls.
@@turnindirtandwrenches If you have a book or can get one, there SHOULD be slow-down sprockets available...
I'll check on that, thanks!
It is the same as a D17. My Dad bought one and put in a WD-45
I know it does great on fuel! Has good power too.
Love them e,a combines
Yes!
@@turnindirtandwrenches I spent many hours driving an repairing them machines, you just cant beat perfection.
They sure are easy to work one.
@@turnindirtandwrenches yes you listen to her and feel her in the seat an you won't have a problem
We had an A-2. Very similar.
Is the A 2 bigger?
@@turnindirtandwrenches E was the smallest. Then the A. c was the biggest. Then the "2" series. In 1968 the F and bigger G models came out. Gleaner alphabet soup.
Makes about as much sense as Ford 9n, 2n, 8n.
A Gleaner E, “Ah” here in Ontario we referred them to the Sliver Seeder. The later models had the slant 6 Chrysler engine in them. Not many around but I guess they did alright
"silver seeder" would apply for people to dumb to set it correctly
That's interesting. I must be doing something right then because the E does great.
@@turnindirtandwrenches yep... Our Ford/Claas 640 came with a book "guide to better combining" and basically it walked you through the steps to setting a combine-- works the same on any machine since the process is the same to thresh, separate, and clean. Talked about the fact that every adjustment affects the others, and some adjustments INCREASE capacity and some decrease it. For instance, speeding up the cylinder increases throughput, slowing it down decreases it. Likewise, opening up the concave increases throughput, closing the concave clearance decreases it. Ground speed is the same, speed up to keep the combine loaded, slow down if it's overloaded. Main difference on a Gleaner of that vintage is, they don't do ANY separating at the cylinder and concave-- only in the raddle and straw walkers. This is actually good for hard to thresh crops like some small grains, but for others like soybeans or corn it's not much benefit and can crack grain. Concave clearance and cylinder speed are more important on a Gleaner to prevent that. Basically concave clearance should just about be a cob diameter at the back, maybe a tad more, but that's pretty much every machine. Claas, Deere, and everybody else separates probably 90% of the grain out the bottom of the concave. I think the later Gleaners did too, went from a "closed" solid concave to an open wire one with a raddle underneath to move the grain and chaff back out from under it, IIRC, to increase capacity. Cylinder speed, you want the fastest you can get away with without cracking grain, this gives the most capacity. If you're cracking grain you can open the concave a bit, you basically want the concave closed no more than necessary to get complete threshing without busting up the cobs or seeing unthreshed pods or heads getting through. A few small tip kernels or unthreshed kernels in the top of a grain head (like sorghum or small grains, whatever) is acceptable, since they don't add much to weight or yield and closing down enough to get every single one causes problems and slows you down more than they're worth. If you're seeing cracked grain in the tank, check two things-- amount of tailings coming back up to the thresher, since grain is WAY more likely to crack during the second pass through the thresher, so too much tailings results in cracked grain, which reducing tailings is a cleaning shoe adjustment, unless your UNDERTHRESHING (too open on the concave too slow on the cylinder speed, but that's very rare to do). If you're getting cracked grain and tailings are minimal, open the concave a bit or slow down the cylinder, or both.
The separator is pretty much on its own-- main thing is make sure the straw walkers are running at the right speed, which is typically a function of engine RPM's which should be set to factory high-idle speed (governor speed). A book on the machine will tell you how to test for it and adjust the engine governor if needed. The only other factor is not to go so fast you overload the separator/walkers... don't feed more material than it can fluff and toss and allow the grain to fall out and into the bottom of the walkers and deliver to the shoe. Usually the thresher will overload before the walkers will. May be some adjustment tricks to the raddle as well since it does a great deal of separation moving the grain, chaff, and straw/cobs/stalks back to the walkers...
The cleaning shoe is pretty easy to adjust. You always want to use as much air as possible for the seed size/weight for the crop your threshing. Smaller lighter seed like canola for instance requires you cut the air back a lot compared to large coarse heavy grain like corn or soybeans. The other factor is opening size of the chaffer/sieve. Of course more open means more capacity, as the grain can pour through it faster with larger openings, allowing more grain to pass through in a given amount of time. Adjusting to smaller openings by closing down the chaffer/sieve reduced throughput and capacity. Basically the ideal is to run as much air as possible without blowing grain out the back, although a few underdeveloped or insect-sucked seeds going out the back aren't worth choking the machine down and putting dirty grain in the tank to keep, and to run the chaffer/sieve as FAR OPEN as possible without getting too much trash in the tank or unthreshed parts of cob, pods, or head fragments. On our Ford/Claas 640, we ran the air wide open all the time, and started with the chaffer and sieve wide open and closed down a bit after a test run in the field, usually to about the third notch from wide open, and we put really nice clean grain in the tank and didn't have anything going on the ground but a few underdeveloped kernels or insect bitten stuff that was trash anyway. Running with an 18 foot head I could basically run wide open on the ground speed most of the time and did a great job. If you start seeing whitecaps in the tank, close the chaffer/sieve a bit. If you're getting too much tailings from underthreshed stuff like head fragments in small grains and sorghum, you need to speed up the cylinder or close the concave clearance a bit to increase threshing on the first pass. If you're seeing bits of underthreshed heads or pods or whatever in the grain tank, close the chaffer a notch or two. If you're seeing clean threshed grain in the tailings, open up the chaffer a bit or slow down a tad and give it time to drop through the chaffer and sieve. Riding grain out the back is almost always running too fast for the conditions/yield, AND/or the chaffer being closed too much... why you want to start with the chaffer wide open and close down as necessary so you're not putting just chunks of cob or threshed pods or sticks or whatever in the tailings, material too heavy to blow out the back off the chaffer/sieve but small enough to drop through the fully open chaffer...
It always amazes me how 40-50-60 year old machines can turn out cleaner samples than these new monsters, but then again, guys back then knew how to actually ADJUST the machine to conditions, and how to get the most out of it without overloading it and doing a bad job. I've seen jokers rent these big new 400 horsepower monster combines and were delivering soybeans to the elevator that looked like a bag of split pea soup-- nearly every bean in the truck was split! Old combines would DEFINITELY tell you if it wasn't running right, because the engine would lug and the machine would howl or growl or groan and you'd look in the tank and go, "oops need to adjust it!". These new machines with the sealed pressurized cabs with the full stereo system, and a big huge diesel turning the thing, they'll grind it to powder with power to spare and you'd never know the difference if you don't CHECK on how it's operating and then ADJUST according to what you see. That's the difference between an OPERATOR and just some lug-nut holding the steering wheel and pushing buttons.
@@lukestrawwalkerI've been taking off lodged, weedy oats with a Gleaner K and have a little ragweed in the tank, but don't think I've dropped a piece of grain that wasn't from over filling the bin the make the last few feet of a row or from missing the wagon a little bit in the dark. Meanwhile, a neighbor with a 9600 STS left enough wheat behind that he won't have to plant a cover crop in some of his fields.
@@saikotikgunman yup... I've run the BILs 9600. Biggest problem with new combines is they've increased threshing capacity WAY beyond what the cleaning shoe can handle... So it rides grain over if your trying to get it clean, or you put dirty grain in the tank to keep it in the machine and not on the ground
I have my dad's and grandfather E111 with 10 foot header and corn header and pickup unfortunately it sat outside. This is a 1969 was 10,000 dollars Canadian brand-new
That was a lot of money, especially back then.
@@turnindirtandwrenches about right for Canada Ontario my dad's 1969 4020 was 10,000 brand new with no cab sinker range side console duel remotes. It was the tractor that made Deere has over 16000 hours on the engine still have it
I've driven a 4020, great tractor, turned really tight for a wide front.
That looks a lot like my grandpa’s old Gleaner.
Did he have an E?
@@turnindirtandwrenches I want to say yes, but I’m not sure. His had a cab. My dad had an open station Gleaner. Unfortunately my dad passed away 8 years ago or I’d ask him.
I don’t remember what model dad’s was either.
I have an A2 gleaner with a q330 3 row corn head
The A is a bit bigger I think
I wouldn't say best one ever. Those in that ERA with out all the technology were the best ever. Back when you were a true operator and listened. Up thru the L series...Cleaner Gleaners...
My A2 also has verable cyl speed.
That's neat. Mine you have to get out of the cab to change it.
How much did it cost to replace everything? There is a Gleaner F near me that I would like to get running and I would like to get a ballpark of the cost.
This was a few years ago, but it was about $4000.00 all said and done. That's tires, belts, bearings, hoses, and seals, ect.
@@turnindirtandwrenches Thank you, I don’t think it would need everything because it hasn’t sat for quite as long. But that’s a good estimate for me. Thanks.
No problem, good luck.
My a2 cab is the same as yours.
That's neat! First one I've heard of.
Your E is det nery much like my A3 and also the F as well
I think my E is just smaller.
I'm about 9 miles from full vision cab company Newton , Kansas. Do you have the straw spreader for that combine? John Deere calls hydraulic speed adjustment variable speed. The cylinder concave machine will do a good job of threshing. (John Deere , gleaner)
I do not have the straw spreader, but I do have the chopper. Yes, it does a great job threshing!
@@turnindirtandwrenches are neighbor had a 550 massy ,he had a lot trouble with it.
Never been around a massy. Not many around here.
C2 gleaner was the best combine ever made
I've never run one of those, but I sure like my E!
If. Not running. Under load. It. Could. Get. Weights
The Gleaner is a servce mqans drreqam.
Yes it is.
Don’t. Put chopper on. Plug up. Walkers. Up. I. Had. One. Good.
Do you know what the word glean means? Are neighbor is a custom harvester. About 30 yrs ago he told me this. A guy wanted to be a custom harvester bought a gleaner. Talked to a farmer. Yes you can help me harvest! He made a round around the field. The farmer got on the combine , looked in the grain tank! Did you adjust this combine? His answer was I have to adjust it!.
I'm not sure what you are saying. Did it need adjusting?
Yes the combine needed adjusted. All the combines made around time that E gleaner was made were cylinder/concave combines. That is the same ideal the threshing machines used. Each company made little changes they thought made their machine better. The neighbor that told me the story run John Deer a few yrs then run gleaner a few yrs. I grew up around John Deere. Gleaner was referred to as a good combine. Cylinder/concave gap and speed. Fan speed. Gap on the sieves. Ground speed. We adjusted are combine different for each crop.
@williammatzek4660 The E is a very good and very simple combine. My dad used one from 1977 through 1997. I bought my E in 1988 and still use it for oats when I grow oats. It was the best soybean combine I ever owned. Real clean sample that was easy to achieve. My R52 gets the cleanest corn sample than any combine I've run.
We don't need rock traps in this area. Where is your farm at? Do you need rock traps?
@williammatzek4660 Yes we need rock traps or the rock ejection door that the Gleaners had. I live in MN in a township named Rock Dell. We have rocks. :)
You’re lucky around here the Gleaner’s are known as silver endgate seeders !!!!!
If you don't have the intelligence to set it
@@RJ1999x must not be anybody around here has that kind of intelligence
@@jimcook4033 obviously not
I haven't been around any Gleaners except the E, but it does a wonderful job.
@@turnindirtandwrenches All combines are designed to capture grain, Allis Chalmers was one of the best. The "silver seeder pheasant feeder" is used by competition because Allis Chalmers owned the combine market back in the day.
Very nice old E
Thank you!