Barnes and Lux have pictures of Dodgers brass....has to be the reason those two are still around. Barnes couldn't throw out a dead man stealing 2nd....Lux has deep infield power.
The untrained eye won't notice it but Taylor made a significant adjustment before the AB against Hudson on Saturday that he carried into today's game. If he sticks with it and doesn't eff around I predict he's about to go off.
Friedman loves: reclamation pitching projects - especially those coming off of Tommy John & average, small, utility players with no pop and the same player type profile - no slug and all potential/hope. The fact that Vargas has had a shorter leash than Lux tells you all about what this organization values.
I've said it's not right to expect much more from Lux (due to the recovery), having said that, I do agree 100% with you in that sending him to OKC to get his reps and confidence there might the best route (for him and the team), at least to regain trading value since now I don´t see teams giving much for him. But they should do that ASAP to give him time in case they might need him come october since the Dodgers might (sadly) think they're set.
I think Lux has been given enough length this year. And I truly believe the injury last year is a large factor into the lack of offense this year. Be it mental of physical, he just doesn't have it. His defense has been really good, so we can give him that. But the issue is that he's stuck at second base, a position Mookie was meant to start at. If his hitting was there, then I'd have no issue. But obviously, it has not been. I don't know if I want to see him out of the org, but I don't want to see him starting as often as he is. He could be a trade piece, as I believe one day he'll get back to being an average player, but I don't think it'll be this year on this team. Option him or trade him. Especially since this is supposedly a "win now" year.
Not sure what they’re waiting for. Maybe they feel sending him down would be the final nail in his confidence or, somehow diminish his trade value? They have a lot of talent in OKC right now.
Agree with everything you said here. This situation puts the Dodgers in a tough spot -- in the immediate and in the long term. Perfect scenario: he's optioned to AAA and accepts that it's the best thing for the team, himself, and his career. Starts getting some hits and building some confidence with the bat while at the same time beginning to play some shortstop again. If the long term plan for the Dodgers is Mookie Betts at second base, shortstop is the only path to playing time for Gavin. ALSO, him proving he can play shortstop again will make him a more attractive option for other teams if he ends up being traded or non-tendered or something (he will not be non-tendered, but you get my point). Appreciate the conversation here, Ryan!!
Gavin Sux with 0-4 2ks and D.P. yesterday. Hey, I agree: Lux n Buehler will do ok next year, But thats neither here nor there! And it won't be in L.A. Lux n Biggio are now the: Dude, Where's my car" guys
I am one of the biggest Gavin Lux fans since playing for the Dodgers him being my favorite Dodger when i first heard about him. And hearing about what you said is true,its pretty sad about how Gavin Lux isn’t doing well and I know he just came back from an injury. Its possible that he gets traded, especially if the Dodgers keep him. They should do the same thjng you said put him down to triple aaa something similar with James Outman since recently came back and getting called back.
I could be wrong on this, as I'm not in any way on the inside. But it seems like Lux is kind of a baby about moving down too. There seems to be a sense of entitlement with him. Other players seem very willing to work on themselves, and to move down to get better if needed. I didn't really hear anything from Outman about being moved down. He went there and got better, and now is back up. With Lux, it seems like there is a lot of noise and disruption when he is sent down.
Why hasn’t Lux been sent down to triple A? He literally has zero confidence at the plate. At this point anyone is better than Lux. It’s time for the organization and Dave Robert to make some decisions. Trade Enrique and Gavin Lux for a bag of chips.
So true about Lux hitting..or a better word to describe it is “TAPPING” (not slugging) the baseball to 2nd base and he does that time and time again at the plate!!😩 What if the Dodgers trade him for Nico Hoerner!!🙏💙
I absolutely feel Hoese has earned a look. This team still needs help at 3B, Tim! Would be a great story too -- the former first round pick figuring it out.
Been saying this for a while...love the guy but just doenst have it...the truth is that never have it. Friedman needs to accept that not all the draft pick will turn good
Lux is gonna be in the next trade deadline deal at this point. Once Betts returns, he will be the one manning 2B for the remainder of the season (and perhaps beyond). VERY disappointed in the Dodgers for holding on to this kid for as long as they have. I never saw him as a long-term fixture at either SS (lol) or 2B for them and that was before the knee injury he had in ST that ended his season last year. Made me mad they traded Michael Busch to the Cubs instead of him, though they might finally get something out of that deal depending on how LHP prospect Jackson Ferris (had a heck of an outing today for High-A Great Lakes, 7 innings of 2-hit shutout ball with 11Ks and 0 BBs) and OF prospect Zyhir Hope progress through their farm system. Sooner they close the book on Lux this season, the better. 😑
If the dodgers move on from Lux if he keeps struggling. I would be sad but at the same time something similar with Bellinger he hasnt been good after an injury with the Dodgers. He is struggling right now as well.
This is Awesome content for dodger junkies. But I Disagree 100% re: Lux. He’s a young pro and will get better as he heals. In the meantime, Dodgers have a massive lead despite their MVP, Betts, being out. Give Lux a break. And play Vargas more, but not at Lux’s expense.
When Mookie returns, he will take over 2B. Lux will be in the minors after that with Rojas taking over short. Biggio is lost. He will be released soon.
Fraudmen to stubborn to admit he's wrong.. he let Corey tre....heck oneil cruz go for this bum...Friedman can't pick players can't handle prospects and needs to go
🤦♂️he's had a spring training and an entire first half, wtf is 4-6games going to do, is he supposed to go a perfect 12-16 for 12-16 at bats to prove otherwise? You're making bets on hopium, fuck hope, it's useless.
You must be new to the game of baseball because there are these things called 'trades' where you exchange one player for another--from another team of course-- and then there's this thing called a 'free agency' market where unsigned players go to wait for a contract. And if you don't know how to value a player there are these things called 'stats' and they're a collection of numbers recorded during a game that a baseball player has played in to show where they did or didn't perform well. And before you ask me, Google exist there you can find "inexpensive" options if you care enough and the stats needed to properly value a player.
I was so big on Gavin lux and really hoped he would have found his stride but he's already at leat 40+ games in and he's not really improved hitting wise, his Defense has been solid but we need both from him and he's just not getting it done, it hurts me too but now all of our top position prospects have not panned out and it sucks because their trade value has plummeted
@alldodgers right so if we wanna pick up someone at the trade deadline the only ones who can make it happen are Hurt, knack, and rushing, wich would suck to trade those guys because we need a future catcher and arms
I hope they: do go for a front or at least a mid starter, they don't sit overconfidently with the bullpen, and go for 1 real good OF bat and reinforce the bench or IF. I believe they just shut down Muncy again and that means he'll be out another month at least...time's a wasting
@@alldodgers Vargas PH for Lux last night. They had a chance to leave Vargas in the game for one inning at 2nd base. KIki finished instead. The Vargas experiment at 2nd appears over.
Send him to OKC, let him play short and try to get some value. He’s young enough to rebuild his career. Then trade him where he gets at bats and is not under as big of a microscope.
I’ve always felt he was a bit immature. He’s worth more in trade with the two options remaining so I don’t think the Dodgers will burn one.. he’s probably on the way out.
Can’t agree more. He shouldn't take up a lineup spot. Rojas is the ss and Mookie at 2b when he comes back. Problem is if not Lux who? Vargas KiKi Lipcious. Taylor not any better.
It's just so wild that the Dodgers have a few guys worth giving a chance to just buried at AAA. Even if they're imperfect options, they're worth checking out over running Lux out there every day.
Yes a terrible lineup with Taylor, Lux, Barnes and Hernandez and Robert's keeps on putting them all together, but yet they keep on bringing in has-been or washed up players...Move two of them and open the wallet
Watch, I guarantee you they will just kick Rojas over to 3rd base and keep Gavin at 2nd whenever mookie returns. Gavin lux is like the dodgers baby. I don't even think they will take lux off the field once muncy gets back. If muncy gets back
Lux has to be one of the top three worst player in the MLB. He can't hit, run, steal or walk. Nothing. Dodgers better off cutting him and eat the salary.
@@josemachado6296 he can play both right field and 2nd base just like brandon lowe. mookie is one of the best defensive rightfielders of all time. i don’t want to see him completely move off of right field. the team benefits the most with mookie primarily playing right field and having spot starts at second base when needed
I agree with one of the points made recently, the Dodgers are unwilling to admit that Lux might be a dud. So, this is on them for sure. Front office and Dave Roberts' decision.
Stop trying to scapegoat one person. Dodgers have way more issues than one person. They don’t hit when they should and they don’t pitch when they should. Is it time to let go the coach/manager? Maybe they need a new voice
ninja is yalls daddy ninja pays the house note ninja pays the car note ninja gives baby mama dodgers a 300M discount and settles for700M then turns around gives the baby mama dodgers a interest free loan for next 10 yrs.... r u shittin me? lol..,, what a ninja ninja is your father.......
Nightmare scenario for y'all: 2024 WS - Houston at SD. LMAO. im rooting for ASStros, im " rooting" for Astros. Let that sink in! We need to get our shit together!!!!
Dodgers are stubbornly refusing to admit that they were wrong about Lux. He is getting way more rope than other Dodger prospects.
When I see Biggio, Lux, Taylor and Barnes in the lineup I know Robert’s is giving that game away. Those are 95% automatic outs
Barnes and Lux have pictures of Dodgers brass....has to be the reason those two are still around. Barnes couldn't throw out a dead man stealing 2nd....Lux has deep infield power.
Don't forget to add in Kike and Heyward. If the Dodgers believe in these guys come playoff time...they are delusional
100% agree.
@@JRcalifornia We have a few now that aren’t even hitting .200…Lux, Taylor, Hernandez, Biggio.
The untrained eye won't notice it but Taylor made a significant adjustment before the AB against Hudson on Saturday that he carried into today's game. If he sticks with it and doesn't eff around I predict he's about to go off.
They need to send Lux on his way.
Agreed. Better for him. And better for the team.
Gavin Sux has always been overated plain and simple. Get him off the team
Totally agree!!!
I'm not happy about it but you are speaking the truth . We need dependability
Trust me, Johnny, I'd love for Gavin to figure it out and become a complete major leaguer. This just might not be his year.
Friedman loves: reclamation pitching projects - especially those coming off of Tommy John & average, small, utility players with no pop and the same player type profile - no slug and all potential/hope. The fact that Vargas has had a shorter leash than Lux tells you all about what this organization values.
Well said 👏
Well this aged well. Lux looked bad two weeks ago, but now, he's earned an MLB player of the week and is still hot.
We all love Lux, but he's not bigger than the organization.
Well said! Could not agree more.
I've said it's not right to expect much more from Lux (due to the recovery), having said that, I do agree 100% with you in that sending him to OKC to get his reps and confidence there might the best route (for him and the team), at least to regain trading value since now I don´t see teams giving much for him. But they should do that ASAP to give him time in case they might need him come october since the Dodgers might (sadly) think they're set.
Listen please. He should have been at aaa all year. Saw him dir a week in spring training. He's no hitter now
PREACH! Nothing in spring told us he was ready to slide right back into the everyday lineup.
He never was a hitter are we watching the same games FFS? He's below average at best
I think Lux has been given enough length this year. And I truly believe the injury last year is a large factor into the lack of offense this year. Be it mental of physical, he just doesn't have it. His defense has been really good, so we can give him that. But the issue is that he's stuck at second base, a position Mookie was meant to start at. If his hitting was there, then I'd have no issue. But obviously, it has not been. I don't know if I want to see him out of the org, but I don't want to see him starting as often as he is. He could be a trade piece, as I believe one day he'll get back to being an average player, but I don't think it'll be this year on this team.
Option him or trade him. Especially since this is supposedly a "win now" year.
I don't know how they can send him out there everyday Outman went down and he's better but he's back they still have an option on Lux!
Not sure what they’re waiting for. Maybe they feel sending him down would be the final nail in his confidence or, somehow diminish his trade value? They have a lot of talent in OKC right now.
Agree with everything you said here. This situation puts the Dodgers in a tough spot -- in the immediate and in the long term.
Perfect scenario: he's optioned to AAA and accepts that it's the best thing for the team, himself, and his career. Starts getting some hits and building some confidence with the bat while at the same time beginning to play some shortstop again.
If the long term plan for the Dodgers is Mookie Betts at second base, shortstop is the only path to playing time for Gavin. ALSO, him proving he can play shortstop again will make him a more attractive option for other teams if he ends up being traded or non-tendered or something (he will not be non-tendered, but you get my point).
Appreciate the conversation here, Ryan!!
Agree on Kody Hoese. Makes 3B better defensively and give dude a chance.
I think Lux has very low value right now. Better to send him down to find it.
Glad they Vargas is playing well
Vargas and Autman suck too!
He is getting extremely better. You were all wrong.
Gavin Sux with 0-4 2ks and D.P. yesterday.
Hey, I agree: Lux n Buehler will do ok next year, But thats neither here nor there! And it won't be in L.A. Lux n Biggio are now the: Dude, Where's my car" guys
So did Ohtani….
If we're talking Lux and Biggio, let's not forget Kiké!!
Trade Lux he doesn’t have a position once Mookie comes back.At worst go to AAA and work on your game. Then trade him.
His trade value is done
I am one of the biggest Gavin Lux fans since playing for the Dodgers him being my favorite Dodger when i first heard about him. And hearing about what you said is true,its pretty sad about how Gavin Lux isn’t doing well and I know he just came back from an injury. Its possible that he gets traded, especially if the Dodgers keep him. They should do the same thjng you said put him down to triple aaa something similar with James Outman since recently came back and getting called back.
I could be wrong on this, as I'm not in any way on the inside. But it seems like Lux is kind of a baby about moving down too. There seems to be a sense of entitlement with him. Other players seem very willing to work on themselves, and to move down to get better if needed. I didn't really hear anything from Outman about being moved down. He went there and got better, and now is back up. With Lux, it seems like there is a lot of noise and disruption when he is sent down.
They can't get over why a 1st rounder ain't working out
Lux may not be good until next year. He is still recovering from injury.
Agreed 100%, send him down and let him figure a few things out. Then we can check him out again next year.
Ty for saying it out loud
Why hasn’t Lux been sent down to triple A? He literally has zero confidence at the plate. At this point anyone is better than Lux. It’s time for the organization and Dave Robert to make some decisions.
Trade Enrique and Gavin Lux for a bag of chips.
What's the go-to on the bag of chips though? We talking a Doritos family bag or Walmart brand ruffles?
@@alldodgers For them we will take the cheap Walmart Ruffles! 🤣
@@LosDoyerss 🤣🤣
So true about Lux hitting..or a better word to describe it is “TAPPING” (not slugging) the baseball to 2nd base and he does that time and time again at the plate!!😩
What if the Dodgers trade him for Nico Hoerner!!🙏💙
You know what the sad thing is gonna be, once dodgers drop him or trade him, he’s gonna start to rake with another team.
100% Feels like a prime change of scenery guy.
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Kody Hoese plays excellent defense.
I absolutely feel Hoese has earned a look. This team still needs help at 3B, Tim! Would be a great story too -- the former first round pick figuring it out.
Been saying this for a while...love the guy but just doenst have it...the truth is that never have it.
Friedman needs to accept that not all the draft pick will turn good
Lux is gonna be in the next trade deadline deal at this point. Once Betts returns, he will be the one manning 2B for the remainder of the season (and perhaps beyond). VERY disappointed in the Dodgers for holding on to this kid for as long as they have. I never saw him as a long-term fixture at either SS (lol) or 2B for them and that was before the knee injury he had in ST that ended his season last year. Made me mad they traded Michael Busch to the Cubs instead of him, though they might finally get something out of that deal depending on how LHP prospect Jackson Ferris (had a heck of an outing today for High-A Great Lakes, 7 innings of 2-hit shutout ball with 11Ks and 0 BBs) and OF prospect Zyhir Hope progress through their farm system. Sooner they close the book on Lux this season, the better.
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If the dodgers move on from Lux if he keeps struggling. I would be sad but at the same time something similar with Bellinger he hasnt been good after an injury with the Dodgers. He is struggling right now as well.
Yet Lux still has a better batting average than Randy Arozarena... so stop wanting to trade for Randy because he was good in one playoffs 4 years ago.
agreed, what is the solution??
This is Awesome content for dodger junkies. But I Disagree 100% re: Lux. He’s a young pro and will get better as he heals. In the meantime, Dodgers have a massive lead despite their MVP, Betts, being out. Give Lux a break. And play Vargas more, but not at Lux’s expense.
When Mookie returns, he will take over 2B. Lux will be in the minors after that with Rojas taking over short. Biggio is lost. He will be released soon.
Fraudmen to stubborn to admit he's wrong.. he let Corey tre....heck oneil cruz go for this bum...Friedman can't pick players can't handle prospects and needs to go
I like this. He’s struggling so is Taylor maybe a send down ? Idk
Dude missed a whole season. What's it really costing them to give him runway in the first half?
Get back to me at the end of the month...
🤦♂️he's had a spring training and an entire first half, wtf is 4-6games going to do, is he supposed to go a perfect 12-16 for 12-16 at bats to prove otherwise? You're making bets on hopium, fuck hope, it's useless.
Again I ask what's it actually costing them at this point? No one can seem to give a non costly alternative 🤔
What's the cost? Runs! Jfc I would expect anyone with even slight hint of how the game works to know that without having to be told.
@@Anthony-dy5cq ok smart guy...where are these "runs" going to come from? I expect you to provide an inexpensive alternative.
You must be new to the game of baseball because there are these things called 'trades' where you exchange one player for another--from another team of course-- and then there's this thing called a 'free agency' market where unsigned players go to wait for a contract. And if you don't know how to value a player there are these things called 'stats' and they're a collection of numbers recorded during a game that a baseball player has played in to show where they did or didn't perform well. And before you ask me, Google exist there you can find "inexpensive" options if you care enough and the stats needed to properly value a player.
This team needs to stop overvaluing lux, been all hype since 2019 and has done nada since then other then injuring himself
I was so big on Gavin lux and really hoped he would have found his stride but he's already at leat 40+ games in and he's not really improved hitting wise, his Defense has been solid but we need both from him and he's just not getting it done, it hurts me too but now all of our top position prospects have not panned out and it sucks because their trade value has plummeted
Outside of maybe 5 pitchers, the prospect trade value for the Dodgers is absolutely concerning.
@alldodgers right so if we wanna pick up someone at the trade deadline the only ones who can make it happen are Hurt, knack, and rushing, wich would suck to trade those guys because we need a future catcher and arms
I hope they: do go for a front or at least a mid starter, they don't sit overconfidently with the bullpen, and go for 1 real good OF bat and reinforce the bench or IF. I believe they just shut down Muncy again and that means he'll be out another month at least...time's a wasting
Lux has until Betts is ready.
That feels like such a long way away but you're probably right.
@@alldodgers Vargas PH for Lux last night. They had a chance to leave Vargas in the game for one inning at 2nd base. KIki finished instead. The Vargas experiment at 2nd appears over.
Send him to OKC, let him play short and try to get some value. He’s young enough to rebuild his career. Then trade him where he gets at bats and is not under as big of a microscope.
ive never been high on lux but especially this year hes been very bad i dont know how people are still convinced hes the next corey seager
My goodness Gavin lux is not all that bad he has not gotten over his injuries
Lux needs to go, he needs to be on a team that's not playing that stupid platooning.
I’ve always felt he was a bit immature. He’s worth more in trade with the two options remaining so I don’t think the Dodgers will burn one.. he’s probably on the way out.
He'll be a solid player for another team leader like Bellinger
This guy has nothing to do with dodgers and also Dave Roberts, they should take hands and walk together away from the dodgers
Send him down or trading him to the Angels, on off days the Dodgers can go visit him since they're so fond of him.
Lux and Taylor could bring value to the Dodgers if they stole bases but they aren't even doing that 😒 🙄
Can’t agree more. He shouldn't take up a lineup spot. Rojas is the ss and Mookie at 2b when he comes back. Problem is if not Lux who? Vargas KiKi Lipcious. Taylor not any better.
Vargas is better, he just needs more playing time. But he’s not getting any behind Lux, Taylor and Biggio.
It's just so wild that the Dodgers have a few guys worth giving a chance to just buried at AAA. Even if they're imperfect options, they're worth checking out over running Lux out there every day.
Yes a terrible lineup with Taylor, Lux, Barnes and Hernandez and Robert's keeps on putting them all together, but yet they keep on bringing in has-been or washed up players...Move two of them and open the wallet
Watch, I guarantee you they will just kick Rojas over to 3rd base and keep Gavin at 2nd whenever mookie returns. Gavin lux is like the dodgers baby. I don't even think they will take lux off the field once muncy gets back. If muncy gets back
So David embelished again? The hell you say?
Gavin lux needs a new place to play baseball
ninja is the greatest father the baby mama dodgers ever had.....
Lux has to be one of the top three worst player in the MLB. He can't hit, run, steal or walk. Nothing. Dodgers better off cutting him and eat the salary.
He can only play one position and he hits like an old school utility guy. Not a good skill set.
i think brandon lowe would be a perfect fit with the dodgers. he could play second and the outfield
We need mookie at second, that's where he's happiest, we need a 3rd baseman and an outfielder
@@josemachado6296 he can play both right field and 2nd base just like brandon lowe. mookie is one of the best defensive rightfielders of all time. i don’t want to see him completely move off of right field. the team benefits the most with mookie primarily playing right field and having spot starts at second base when needed
Lux was at a Diddy party
We should never have traded Bellinger
Mr. Rally killer needed an easier ballpark to hit in.
Dodgers have too many mediocre hitters!! Time to send some of them packing, either to Oklahoma city if they have options or instead of a Trade!
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Can he be sent down to AAA?
Lux Sux and I knew what he was pre injury. He is what he is a weak hitting infielder w average defense
He has to agree to be sent down. Do you think it's all on the Dodger's front office?
He better at this point.
I agree with one of the points made recently, the Dodgers are unwilling to admit that Lux might be a dud. So, this is on them for sure. Front office and Dave Roberts' decision.
Dfa lux. Fire Robert's
Stop trying to scapegoat one person. Dodgers have way more issues than one person. They don’t hit when they should and they don’t pitch when they should. Is it time to let go the coach/manager? Maybe they need a new voice
hes been garbadge af
Mean. Stop it.
Lux has Dirt on someone
ninja is yalls daddy
ninja pays the house note
ninja pays the car note
ninja gives baby mama dodgers a 300M discount and settles for700M then turns around gives the baby mama dodgers a interest free loan for next 10 yrs.... r u shittin me?
lol..,, what a ninja
ninja is your father.......
He sucks and he has since he got called up. Experiment over. Move on
I trust Dave and the FO. Period.
Relax buddy, as much as I love the Dodgers, they are not winning this year. Maybe next year when Shohei pitches.
Nightmare scenario for y'all: 2024 WS - Houston at SD. LMAO. im rooting for ASStros, im " rooting" for Astros. Let that sink in!
We need to get our shit together!!!!
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