timestamps also here 00:49 - Departing Tottenville 02:32 - Arthur Kill Station 04:33 - Richmond Valley Station 06:16 - Pleasant Plains Station 08:32 - Prince's Bay Station 10:21 - Huguenot Station 12:38 - Annadale Station 14:41 - Eltingville Staition 17:41 - Great Kills Station 19:58 - Bay Terrace Station0 21:54 - Ooakwood Heights Station 23:49 - New Dorp Station 25:34 - Grant City Station 26:53 - Jefferson Av Station 28:31 - Dongan Hills Station 30:22 - Old Town Station 32:21 - Grasmere Station 35:39 - Clifton Station 37:12 - Stapleton Station 39:12 - Tompkinsville 41:00 - The Only Tunnel of The SIR 41:48 - St. George Terminal Last Stop Bus terminal Above ☝️
ik I haven't been in Staten Island especially the Railway for years but I never realized the overpasses for Nassau and Atlantic finally closed down after being redundant. Heard they were still around long after the platforms were closed off
Yea same I've only rode the SIR once before this video. Also I was reading comments on other videos about the staten island railway and I saw a few that said the overpasses were still there but those comments were from 4 months ago. So I'm assuming they tore them down just recently at beginning of this year 2022
I know the overpasses have been locked off since ~2019 from personal experience but I haven't gone south of my home stop recently enough to realize they were razed
I haven't ridden this in about 50 years. I can't believe the B&O color-position signals are still up. The New Dorp Lane grade crossing is long gone, alas. When I was growing up in Borough Park, Brooklyn, on a summer night with my windows open, if the wind was blowing just the right way, I could hear the faint wailing of train horns signalling for it so many miles away. Now I'm living in suburban Philly and get awakened many mornings by SEPTA trains bellowing for Rydal Road at 06:30.
Funny little side note at New Dorp Station 24:18 - 38 a woman left her clothes on the bench for the train and another woman leaving the train picked them up.
It sounded like there were one or more bad wheels on this train. What a strange sound. Before this video I watched your video of the express train from 96th Street to Coney Island. I enjoyed both of these videos.
Yep the train had flat wheels plus a dead motor because the train had no audible propulsion! Next time when I record the tottenville express hopefully I get a better trainset Thanks for watching 👍
Wow this is a neat perspective, from the deck just above the coupler! Last time i took a trip on the SIR was back in the early 80s before i moved to Cali, when many of the stations were still wooden: So neat to see the stations having been rebuilt and the whole line refreshed!! I take it the SIR has completely transitioned off of the old block signaling system? I can see the spots where the signals were located with the boxes between the tracks and i see signals near switches, but none were lit Real neat the little speedo in the upper left, that disappeared after awhile i see... Thank you SO MUCH for providing these views!! Lets me see things i cant do from 2k+ miles away!!
One trivia point: the Tottenville depot is the southern most railway terminus in New York State because Tottenville is the southern most point in New York State. You can't go any further south without going into the drink.
Does St. George Terminal really need that many platforms? Maybe they can all be replaced by one wide island platform and the line can curve west and RCB Ballpark could be restored. That way, St. George can become a through-station rather than being separated with a wye like Hoboken on PATH. This is because the line could continue north of the island as it used to go there.
The Ballpark Station is literally 200 feet west of St. George Terminal and was a complete waste. Fully 95% of SI train and bus riders go through St. George. The old North Shore line is dead and ripped up in many spots and ain’t never coming back. Any $$ should go to new trains, buses and station improvements for the current MTA properties.
@@edwardp3502 Yeah, maybe you’re right. I was outraged when certain station renovations, such as the ESI lacked accessibility upgrades. I guess restoring any abandoned line, such as the Rockaway Beach Branch can wait.
The train to nowhere ! Imagine if these clowns actually finished the subway connection 4th avenue subway in the 1920's and then again the IND second system ? BTW. retired motorman 'B' division. Operated the R44s on the A line , loved them....
Yeah it would've been awesome if all 5 boroughs were all connected as one system. This line seems redundant considering all of the bus lines all over staten island, and that's awesome that you were once a motormen! In the near future I might apply to become one
Yeah it seems like the propulsion is dead D: I got unlucky in regards of that. If only I got a set with 𝗵𝗼𝘄𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 motors now that would've been nice example Here ua-cam.com/video/j9uWbPv37gU/v-deo.html
If you look closely you could actually see them, but its just ramps going towards the platform on each side so no elevators. You can't see Tottenvilles or St. Georges ramp in this video though so only 3/5. In total there's only 5 accessible stations on the whole line: Tottenville, Arthur Kill, Great Kills, Dongan Hills, and St. George. I don't think they care enough to add more accessible stations XD
Considering all the "budget shortfalls" this line appears to be beautifully run and maintained. A real treasure for the NY Transit thanks to the B&O RR for its construction. One question what was that black super rusted iron plate at the bottom of the pictures?
To this day, if the MTR was really that broke, they should have all stations on this railway with fare turnstiles. Just don't make them pay while exiting.
There is a small plate at the front of these trains but the reason it's showing is because I placed the camera a bit too much towards the back of the plate. In My recent video of the SIR I placed it at a better angle
How was the ride quality? when I rode it in 2018 it was crappy. Looking at the video it look better other than a couple of spots when it was swaying. Too bad no horn tho.
It was just OKAY. There was actually alot of swinging side to side in many parts of the ride like you mentioned, but it does run at decent speeds. BTW there is horn at 10:24 and 41:12
Why can't the Staten Island Railway be converted into a New York City Subway and a new connection between Staten Island and Brooklyn, or even between Staten island and Manhattan?
That work was started almost 100 years ago actually but it got cancelled due to it being too expensive. An alternate universe probably has all 5 boroughs united as one superior transit system but sadly we're not in that and we're stuck by using buses or a boat to get into staten island. They should really reconsider it :(
limes ☹Pity! I still do think the MTA should try making a NYC subway route in Staten Island and connect between there and Brooklyn or Manhattan, or even connect all three boroughs at the same time.
@@dvnrhillary They were in the process of building an underground tunnel, but you can guess what happened. Truth is, Staten Island is far too isolated and economically unbeneficial. That's partially why it's not very dense as Brooklyn or Queens
@@armorpro573 Ye I was like thinking a train line connecting Queens, Brooklyn and SI. But the tunnel from SI and Brooklyn is pretty the same length of the bridge and yet that length is long so it will be expensive.
The other trains all seem to be modern ones but the floor platform on this one looks to be quite old. Do theyuse one old train for nostalgia. Never been on the SIRT.
They say it takes a certain type of person to be a (good) bus driver. Does the occupation of subway train conductor attract a certain type(s) of employee?
This thing still uses the B&O-style signals? With all the bus routes on SI, I continually fail to understand why this Toonerville Trolley is still in operation,
Yup you got a great point. Some stations are in horrible shape and all, but they dont have plans anytime soon to shut this railway down because these R44s will get replaced in the next few coming years with the r211s. I think that's a waste
it is because there used a few other train lines before they were abandoned and tore down. Now there's only this line left and they only utilize 4 tracks maximum even though there is around 12 lol
Thanks man! Its called digihud speedometer. Usually works fine but it was a bit inaccurate here for some reason. I'm not sure if its on iPhone (If you even have an iphone)
I visit SI since my dads side of the family lives there so we go there for visits and to be honest, such a quiet and peaceful borough, worth to live if you want to buy a big house , and also if you have a car since there are more bus routes than this one train line
When I lived there a century ago, if you were heading from SI to another boro, you were going to "the city." Reverse course, you're heading back to "the island." So, in that sense, it wasn't "the city," even though it's one of the 5 boroughs of NYC.
@@morganlimes ah los cambian rápido! En argentina 50 años tardan en cambiar! Por ahora tenemos trenes nuevos chinos . Jaja lol !! En unos años voy a ir a visitar en navidad Nueva York! Saludos desde (ciudad de Buenos Aires).
Thanks for sharing the forgotten borough's only train system.
timestamps also here
00:49 - Departing Tottenville
02:32 - Arthur Kill Station
04:33 - Richmond Valley Station
06:16 - Pleasant Plains Station
08:32 - Prince's Bay Station
10:21 - Huguenot Station
12:38 - Annadale Station
14:41 - Eltingville Staition
17:41 - Great Kills Station
19:58 - Bay Terrace Station0
21:54 - Ooakwood Heights Station
23:49 - New Dorp Station
25:34 - Grant City Station
26:53 - Jefferson Av Station
28:31 - Dongan Hills Station
30:22 - Old Town Station
32:21 - Grasmere Station
35:39 - Clifton Station
37:12 - Stapleton Station
39:12 - Tompkinsville
41:00 - The Only Tunnel of The SIR
41:48 - St. George Terminal Last Stop
Bus terminal Above ☝️
If you add a timestamp 0:00 at the front of this list in the description it will generate chapters automatically.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Wow it was such a simple fix 😂
Thank You
@@morganlimes No problem, I had the same problem on my channel
An excellent video. I have never travelled on the Staten Island Railway so everything seen here is completely new to me.
ik I haven't been in Staten Island especially the Railway for years but I never realized the overpasses for Nassau and Atlantic finally closed down after being redundant. Heard they were still around long after the platforms were closed off
Yea same I've only rode the SIR once before this video.
Also I was reading comments on other videos about the staten island railway and I saw a few that said the overpasses were still there but those comments were from 4 months ago.
So I'm assuming they tore them down just recently at beginning of this year 2022
I know the overpasses have been locked off since ~2019 from personal experience but I haven't gone south of my home stop recently enough to realize they were razed
I haven't ridden this in about 50 years. I can't believe the B&O color-position signals are still up.
The New Dorp Lane grade crossing is long gone, alas. When I was growing up in Borough Park, Brooklyn, on a summer night with my windows open, if the wind was blowing just the right way, I could hear the faint wailing of train horns signalling for it so many miles away. Now I'm living in suburban Philly and get awakened many mornings by SEPTA trains bellowing for Rydal Road at 06:30.
Funny little side note at New Dorp Station 24:18 - 38 a woman left her clothes on the bench for the train and another woman leaving the train picked them up.
Yepo lol
LMAOO
I need for info about 32:54. Liz was being lame about something, but we never found out why!
glorious subtleties borne by this fascinating line with, e.g., mystifyingly non-electrified spurs
It sounded like there were one or more bad wheels on this train. What a strange sound.
Before this video I watched your video of the express train from 96th Street to Coney Island. I enjoyed both of these videos.
Yep the train had flat wheels plus a dead motor because the train had no audible propulsion! Next time when I record the tottenville express hopefully I get a better trainset
Thanks for watching 👍
@Lighthouse in the Storm Yes I am and it will be coming soon with the improved angle so it shows less of the edge
Wow this is a neat perspective, from the deck just above the coupler!
Last time i took a trip on the SIR was back in the early 80s before i moved to Cali, when many of the stations were still wooden: So neat to see the stations having been rebuilt and the whole line refreshed!!
I take it the SIR has completely transitioned off of the old block signaling system? I can see the spots where the signals were located with the boxes between the tracks and i see signals near switches, but none were lit
Real neat the little speedo in the upper left, that disappeared after awhile i see...
Thank you SO MUCH for providing these views!! Lets me see things i cant do from 2k+ miles away!!
I love the stretch from tottenville to Grasmere.. 🚆🚆🚆🚆
Although the cars and stations look like a heavy rail transit system, this is still a common carrier Railroad that operates under FRA regulations.
One trivia point: the Tottenville depot is the southern most railway terminus in New York State because Tottenville is the southern most point in New York State. You can't go any further south without going into the drink.
Does St. George Terminal really need that many platforms? Maybe they can all be replaced by one wide island platform and the line can curve west and RCB Ballpark could be restored. That way, St. George can become a through-station rather than being separated with a wye like Hoboken on PATH. This is because the line could continue north of the island as it used to go there.
The Ballpark Station is literally 200 feet west of St. George Terminal and was a complete waste. Fully 95% of SI train and bus riders go through St. George. The old North Shore line is dead and ripped up in many spots and ain’t never coming back. Any $$ should go to new trains, buses and station improvements for the current MTA properties.
@@edwardp3502 Yeah, maybe you’re right. I was outraged when certain station renovations, such as the ESI lacked accessibility upgrades. I guess restoring any abandoned line, such as the Rockaway Beach Branch can wait.
Just amazing
Possibly @NYCTA Railfan at 17:55 lol
Yup thats Ben
@@nah_144 Nice lol
Pretty cool we both went to the SIR same day and time then
Great camera placement
Dope video!
thanks! Appreciate the support
i love trains
Someone passed away subway surfing on this station.
The train to nowhere !
Imagine if these clowns actually finished the subway connection 4th avenue subway in the 1920's and then again the IND second system ?
BTW. retired motorman 'B' division. Operated the R44s on the A line , loved them....
Yeah it would've been awesome if all 5 boroughs were all connected as one system. This line seems redundant considering all of the bus lines all over staten island, and that's awesome that you were once a motormen! In the near future I might apply to become one
What was the one line you hated working on? Also, thank you for your years of service and sacrifice 🙏
They could have easily designed the Verrazano to handle trains but Moses didn't want the connection. Amazingly stupid not to.
Seems like the motors in the lead carriage are not taking power, hence the slow acceleration and lack of motor noise.
Yeah it seems like the propulsion is dead D: I got unlucky in regards of that. If only I got a set with 𝗵𝗼𝘄𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 motors now that would've been nice
example Here ua-cam.com/video/j9uWbPv37gU/v-deo.html
Can i ask if any of these stations on this line are step free access for disabled passengers?
Yes there are 5 stations that are accessible on this line.
1. St.george terminal
2. Dongan Hill
3. Great Kills
4. Arthur Kill
5. Tottenville
Is it me, but I don't notice handicapped entrances to the trains .
If you look closely you could actually see them, but its just ramps going towards the platform on each side so no elevators. You can't see Tottenvilles or St. Georges ramp in this video though so only 3/5. In total there's only 5 accessible stations on the whole line: Tottenville, Arthur Kill, Great Kills, Dongan Hills, and St. George. I don't think they care enough to add more accessible stations XD
I sincerely doubt that is legal -- just a few stations. And if you want to go to another station??
@@morganlimes They're going to add elevators at New Dorp, Clifton, and Huguenot - they're only working on New Dorp as of yet
Considering all the "budget shortfalls" this line appears to be beautifully run and maintained. A real treasure for the NY Transit thanks to the B&O RR for its construction. One question what was that black super rusted iron plate at the bottom of the pictures?
Yeah this line almost never has delays. The rusted part is a small floor the train has at the front. Its the yellow painted part of the train @ 2:44
Diamond toe-plate on top the Anti-Climber
To this day, if the MTR was really that broke, they should have all stations on this railway with fare turnstiles. Just don't make them pay while exiting.
Why does there appear to be a small platform on the front of this car? The front of these cars doesn't seem to have any kind of a step such as this
There is a small plate at the front of these trains but the reason it's showing is because I placed the camera a bit too much towards the back of the plate. In My recent video of the SIR I placed it at a better angle
@@morganlimes OK! Great video (s) by the way.
This is cool
Thanks :)
@@morganlimes np
Great video, do you plan on doing one of these in the summer?
Yeah I'll probably do the tottenville express in the summer or maybe even sooner than that
What Do They Do If A Passenger Is In A Wheelchair Or Have A Disability
I guess take the train at one of the few ADA accessible stations
26:00 What's in those small buildings over the track at some stations?
Those buildings are the station houses that passengers use to get from the overpass down to the train station
How was the ride quality? when I rode it in 2018 it was crappy. Looking at the video it look better other than a couple of spots when it was swaying. Too bad no horn tho.
It was just OKAY. There was actually alot of swinging side to side in many parts of the ride like you mentioned, but it does run at decent speeds.
BTW there is horn at 10:24 and 41:12
How did you place your camera out side of the train it’s impressive how you can do that
Why can't the Staten Island Railway be converted into a New York City Subway and a new connection between Staten Island and Brooklyn, or even between Staten island and Manhattan?
That work was started almost 100 years ago actually but it got cancelled due to it being too expensive. An alternate universe probably has all 5 boroughs united as one superior transit system but sadly we're not in that and we're stuck by using buses or a boat to get into staten island. They should really reconsider it :(
limes ☹Pity! I still do think the MTA should try making a NYC subway route in Staten Island and connect between there and Brooklyn or Manhattan, or even connect all three boroughs at the same time.
@@dvnrhillary They were in the process of building an underground tunnel, but you can guess what happened. Truth is, Staten Island is far too isolated and economically unbeneficial. That's partially why it's not very dense as Brooklyn or Queens
@@armorpro573 Ye I was like thinking a train line connecting Queens, Brooklyn and SI. But the tunnel from SI and Brooklyn is pretty the same length of the bridge and yet that length is long so it will be expensive.
@@spiceyroses No wonder people call it the “forgotten brother” of NYC
The other trains all seem to be modern ones but the floor platform on this one looks to be quite old. Do theyuse one old train for nostalgia. Never been on the SIRT.
It's mostly R44s, which were made back in the 70s. They're planning on replacing with the R211s
They say it takes a certain type of person to be a (good) bus driver. Does the occupation of subway train conductor attract a certain type(s) of employee?
I am not sure about that one chief
Do you think we need new cars
37:12 - Is there a connection here to the RTD A train?
...
(J/K)
This thing still uses the B&O-style signals? With all the bus routes on SI, I continually fail to understand why this Toonerville Trolley is still in operation,
Yup you got a great point. Some stations are in horrible shape and all, but they dont have plans anytime soon to shut this railway down because these R44s will get replaced in the next few coming years with the r211s. I think that's a waste
Lighted Aspect Signals at interlocking only. Cab signal for the rest of the line.
Good stuff. St George seems out of scale! Doubles as the depot, perhaps?
it is because there used a few other train lines before they were abandoned and tore down. Now there's only this line left and they only utilize 4 tracks maximum even though there is around 12 lol
@@morganlimesthe north shore and south shore branches
To me those stations need to be redone to become handicapped accessible unless I just didn't see that they are.
They recently completed an ADA project. They'll do more in the near future
great video!
whats the app name for that speedometer?
Thanks man! Its called digihud speedometer. Usually works fine but it was a bit inaccurate here for some reason. I'm not sure if its on iPhone (If you even have an iphone)
It looks like some real heavy duty rail rehab is going to be going on with all the rail and ties laying on the sides.
Well the R211s are coming soon
Thank.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SUBWAY CONNECTION BETWEEN BROOKLYN AND STATEN ISLAND?
No such thing.
It got cancelled way long ago
Has been discussed about
for a Century
still has not happened 😕
Is this train a pile of rust or is it just an optical illusion?
It's rust alright
Great video how did you get that view
I used a grabber tool and placed the camera on the front floor of the train :)
@@morganlimes nice my dad worked for the NYCTA for 36 years operating the D line it’s cool being in the front and seeing what it’s like
Crazy that the train is free in staten island. It still is right?
Yes 99% of the line is free but at St. George Terminal you gotta pay to ride the train
@@morganlimes love your videos keep up the great work
@@morganlimes can you say the L train is the fastest line on the MTA ?
How did you get this vantage point?
hey, I just placed my camera on the edge of the train when the Crew wasn't around
@@morganlimes How did you retrieve it? Surprised how most people did not notice the camera.
Wow i havent it from this vantage point. Not exactly fast is it?
It has pretty decent speeds in some parts and I think it topped out at 40 but its a very wobbly and shaky ride though. Hope you enjoyed the View
@@morganlimes yeah its was fun video to watch for sure.
Is this an r46 or r44?
R44 which is exclusive to Staten island
Wow, never been to Staten Island. No garbage no graffiti. Is this still considered “the city”?
Staten Island is pretty lightly populated. Most of it is dense woodland with a couple of suburbs running through
I visit SI since my dads side of the family lives there so we go there for visits and to be honest, such a quiet and peaceful borough, worth to live if you want to buy a big house , and also if you have a car since there are more bus routes than this one train line
When I lived there a century ago, if you were heading from SI to another boro, you were going to "the city." Reverse course, you're heading back to "the island." So, in that sense, it wasn't "the city," even though it's one of the 5 boroughs of NYC.
Que ruido que hace ese tren! Parecen los de argentina! 😂 De dónde es el tren?
lol 😆
Staten Island Nueva York
@@morganlimes new York tienen esas porquerías de trenes?! 🤨 Son de primer mundo ustedes! Me parece raro! I've new York! 🇺🇲❤️
@@pablodanielgramma Por ahora si amigo, En unos 2-3 años estos Trenes de staten island seran reemplazados 👍
@@morganlimes ah los cambian rápido! En argentina 50 años tardan en cambiar! Por ahora tenemos trenes nuevos chinos . Jaja lol !! En unos años voy a ir a visitar en navidad Nueva York! Saludos desde (ciudad de Buenos Aires).
Why don’t they blow there horn at the station
They do occasionally