Honda CRF300L Yoshimura RS4 exhaust system Side by side comparison stock exhaust pipe
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- Honda CRF300L Yoshimura RS-4 exhaust system, what dual sport exhaust do you use?
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From my memory, Yoshimura has been making Great stuff since the '70s.
Either way I love the sound of the single cylinder 4 stroke (even wth the stock pipe), surely the Yoshimura is more of a baritone growl, good choice as soundtrack since while filming with an helmet camera it tends to pick up more the mechanical noise than the exhaust. Great video, enjoyed it!
Had the rs4 yoshimura on my 2017 250l.
It cleaned up the flat spot on the 2017-2020 models in lower rpms. Some other brands of exhaust add more to the top rev range but not enough back pressure to help with low end.
Sounds nice. I actually like how quiet mine is. I’m always in ninja mode as I creep through the woods. Now if I was commuting in the city I’d make it louder. I don’t mind the weight loss though.
Thanks
Completely agree. I want mine to stay quiet.
Stock exhaust actually sounds great.
I'm my opinion I didn't like it. And it was super heavy.
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Ah I thought those sandy tracks and roads looked familiar! I grew up in central/southern NJ but I’ve been living out west for a few years. I do miss riding around in the pine barrens
Wow I can't believe how expensive that Yoshi system is, way too much to justify for me. No doubt it looks good, but think it would be too loud for our trails in the UK.
I went for the Moto X from Bikerbits £200 for a complete stainless system, not too loud but sounds much better than stock system, is about 3.5 to 4kg lighter and great quality.
Same $600 is a bit ridiculous when you can get moto x and a brand new flashed ecu for less than a yoshi
All the exhausts were way too loud on the CRF250L, even the FMF Q4, which is supposed to be quiet. Is this Yoshi still as loud as it was on the 250L, my guess is yes since it's just a punched out version of the same motor. Wish somebody made something a bit quieter for woods riding. My WR250R with FMF Q4 was a lot quieter than the 250L with same muffler.
Leave ur stock muffler on if u don't want power or noise duh
This has to be the best sounding pipe
Man I love it, sounds so nice and deep. So worth the money for that a weight loss alone.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad ok i got the same pipe now 😄
I'll be rewatching when I make a purchase in a couple months
Did you end up getting the 300L yet?
I have had a lot of Yoshis in the past, but the way the Akrapovic sound on the 300 sounds really good. May be time to change it up.
Looks and Sounds Great!!! Perhaps upgrade air intake, DNA air filter?
Just set up my 450RL with Yosh full system, Vortex ECU and Twin Air filter with back screen removal and Love it. I am blown away, different bike.
Hey, thanks for the comment. Since the video I have a DNA intake, and a ECU to match the upgrades and for 91 octane. I posted a video about it last week. Thanks again.
I have a 2013 CRF250L. I put the FMF megabomb header and the Q4 on it. It did help the power but it is very loud. Even with the Q4 it's still too loud. I wouldn't mind having the 300L, but I would leave it stock. Now that comms are a thing, and they are nice to have, a loud exhaust is a detriment.
I agree. Not sure why nobody makes a quiet exhaust for the bike. FMF Q4 is their quiet series muffler, but it's still very loud on the 250L and will be on a 300 as well. By contrast, the CRF450RL with a Q4 muffler is barely louder than stock, and the Yoshi is just a bit louder. Neither is as loud as the 250L though. Can't figure out why, other than maybe they had to make the muffler shorter to clear the stock turn signals.
Completely agree
Love the way it sounds. Is there an exhaust that can stay quiet or sound like this? Almost like an exhaust cutout on a car? I'd like the bike quiet if I am ever riding somewhere I am not supposed to be.
Any chance you could test the Db of the Yoshi exhaust? If you don't have the correct equipment I think you can use an app on your phone. Would be much appreciated maybe in the next video. You could do it at idle, at like 4k and at like 8k for example.
Thanks,
Yeah maybe I can do that. Let me look into it. Tho I'm going on a riding trip this weekend I may not be able to do it straight away.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad All good, Just trying to compare between the motox and the Yoshi
I’d appreciate this too. I like the deeper sound but I don’t want something really loud.
@@jasonhall10 ok I have a DB tester on order to check for you guys.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Thanks man 👍, I look forward to the video
Yeah bro the exhaust can make a huge difference
Not without a chip.... in fact, it runs hotter without a chip.
Great product, really. I would like to know : you noticed a "lengthening" of the gears and/OR more speed in rising engine RPM ? it is a complete system without a catalyst, so the engine should heat up less ... have you seen this? //// The engine should be much more ready when you open the throttle...correct ? Last question please : it's easier to keep a higher gear ratio now ? Can you travel in 4th gear instead the 3th in slow single track ???? (engine elasticity in low gears ) // sorry for my english - THX ( Luca from Milan Italy ) enjoy your awesome DUAL CRF300L !
There won’t be much more power without a tune, the engine actually runs hotter with an exhaust like this because of the air/fuel mixture which is fixed with a tune. It isn’t a ton of power, nothing like you’re mentioning but it does make it a little faster
@@snaxgalore5764 Ok thx, I wanted to know if you have more elasticity and more thrust in the first gears (1th 2th 3^th ....in off road use.) I am not interested if the "YOSHI" are best in max speed . OKAY Thank you ....
/// NO RAPID BIKE ecu needed ?
@@lukestringer2177 the gear ratio stays the same, just a mild power difference. And yes you should get a EJK tuner
@@lukestringer2177 Ciao Luca! Did you buy the yoshi exhaust? I'm curious if you've tuned the ECU
@@florynake93 Ciao . no I've changed handleguard bars / skidplate / rear rack / rims Tagasako Excel Gold with TUBELESS system inside with Bridgestone Adventurecross AX41 / Rear Shock YSS and I'm waiting for front YSS CARTRIDGE delivery...so I will work at full exhaust system without catalist ( BRAND choose) I bought 5lt Adv fuelbag and soft bags without frames / Kriega and Enduristan brand. CIAO!
Can’t wait for my bike to come in brother it’s thanks to you and your videos. You should put a link up and make a partnership with the seller so you can get a percent.
Haha awesome! I think you would love it, and the price is good too. Then if you want it doesnt take much in upgrades to take it from a good platform to a beast of a bike.
I just picked up my 300L ..suspension is really soft so once u sit it drops significantly Im a short rider as well 5.5 its real easy to ride I would like to know what is the decibel reading I ride to work and leave at 2am not sure if yoshi pipe will be to loud for neighborhood
Yosh is the best exhaust. I gotta hustle up some green pronto. I need new tires too.
I just took the spark arrester thing out cut 2 inches of bolted it back on. Sounds the same as that yoshi pipe but free
Well there is no way the sound is the same. Maybe you feel it is better but you are still pushing air through the cat and 18lbs of exhaust.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad Stop exaggerating. The stock system only weighs 12.3 lbs, and the Yoshimura RS-4 exhaust system weighs 9.5 lbs.. I had more than that for lunch! And you paid over $650 for 1.5 more horsepower. At the cost of introducing an added lean condition to an already lean running bike. Plus you'll have to get a $150 ECU flash to correct your mistake and bring it back within factory specs.
@@moemuggy4971 I got a whole ECU for free to go with this exhaust
@@moemuggy4971 tons more power and throttle response too. It is awesome.
What ECU you goin to get - putting a hold fee on a CRF300L tomorrow and like to know the mods not finding much online.
Thanx for the video, my Yoshimura is on back order for my 2021 xr650l,,can’t wait
650l that's a big bike. How do you like it?
@@MotorcyclesOffroad I love it,,but making a Supermoto conversion so it won’t be so tall lol
@@breakdownbill1 haha yeah they are tall. I'm only 5'10" it's a bit tall for me. I prefer a 35" seat height.
I did the Yoshi and a jd ecu. Sounds great and looks great. Only rode it around the block but the check engine light is on. Is this temporary unil computer adjusts? Also did the smog delete, Thanks for your help and your videos
Yep just ordered it for my Honda 300 coming in it's pretty pricey I mean I bought a stainless steel Cat-Back Gibson exhaust for my Dodge Ram V10 and it was actually cheaper than this Yoshi pipe but who cares it sounds cool
Great job on the video. And your 300 sounds even better in person, with the yoshi!
Beautifully presented video, great videography and editing Subscribed just in case I go the 300 L way for remote moto
Sounds great, man! Looks good. Glad to hear you have more plans! Also. Glad to hear your 5'2" can ride this thing. I am 5'7" and now feel a little more confident! Still waiting on mine to be shipped.. i guess.. now saying January! Smh... thanks for the great vids
It's pretty tall isn't it? lol. I do have the suspension as high as it will go but I'm right at 6 foot and can't really flat foot with both feet. I'm 210lbs. I'm used to a Harley so the 300 is very tall for me.
Did you end up getting the bike yet?
I cranked mine up as well. I am 5'10"
Man I’ve dropped mine like 4 times due to not being on level ground when I come to a stop lol. The Acerbis handguards bend everytime it falls over. Even if it doesn’t fall hard. Caused my throttle to get stuck and about turned into an even worse situation
Your review is awesome
Do the intake box mod. That wakes it up
Hi Andrew
Can I ask what the spark arrestor use for
I'm in Australia and not sure what its for
By he way your videos are getting heaps better with every video
regards
Marcio
Thanks for the vid. You don't have a link to the spart arrestor you used do you ? perhaps add to the show notes ? sometimes the smallest difference can get you a different sound/result with this stuff.
I had a 1970 Honda SL 100 back in the day that I sawed the steel muffler w/guard off of and put a Bassani aluminum silencer on with a wire mesh screen clamped on the outlet . Saved about 20lbs of weight and cost about $20. It sounded just like "Pops" muffler does now !
Haha that is awesome!
Hey bro putting mine on today do I need to put any special sealant or anything on the threads for the O2 sensor? Thank you ahead of time
Where'd you get it for that cheap? Im seeing in the 700s
I bought this from Yoshimura.
The pipe looks good on that bike
Thank you, it completely changed how the bike feels.
Sweet just ordered mine
Who has this in stock? I have been seeing shipping early September or about?
Ebay does
I bought this from Yoshimura.
Shiza, I pre ordered it from RevZ. Hopefully it ships soon
I ordered from Yoshimura last week, arrived by ground (free option) just yesterday. I think it’s the slip-on that is back ordered, I have the full ($619)
sound great, good looks, i love this one its beautiful
It really is an awesome pipe.
Sounds pretty darn good.
Thanks! I'm loving the deep sounds this bike makes.
Just got my pipe yesterday waiting on the spark arrestor and the actual bike lol did you reuse the exhaust donut from Honda or did you buy a new one?
I called Yoshi and asked if it needed an ECU adjustments, whatever the acronyms are, I am not a mechanic, and they told me there are some issues with overheating and fuel adjustments needed. Said a device is needed that was not cheap will correct the problem. Yes I called Yoshimura USA, hopefully the person on the phone was ill advised. I have the slip on ordered and concerned.
So with some items what can happen is your bike can run more "lean" which means more air to fuel, and in doing so will make it run hot. Usually this is only possible of you have more air going in as well. So like a K&N filter ect. It can't run lean if your bottleneck is the snorkel on the air box.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad got ya. Definitely looking forward to getting the Yoshi. Had one on my DRZ, Part of why I missed that bike.
The bike will definitely need an EFI controller or something if you're going to run it with a full pipe. Otherwise you're just making more noise, and it can also make the bike run worse. It usually will make it run hotter too. I'd never run a full pipe on any of these bikes unless I tuned it also. It's sort alike running a carbureted bike with a full pipe and not re-jetting the carb. Take a look at your header pipe when the bike gets hot.... I've seen poorly tuned bikes with glowing/red purple header pipes.
@@johnridesadv2512 So you are right It could make you run leaner is some cases. But you also have to consider that you have an O2 sensor unlike a carb bike. If you keep the same intake it will also bottleneck the air from running leaning. with a different exhaust and the same intake a lot of times the bike will adjust as if it would a higher elevation. Also I do have a ECU flashed for high octane, intake and this exhaust, I just didnt make a video about it yet.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad looking forward to more info on this, cheers fella!
Nice job! Thankyou No music!)
Lol so many people comment on music in videos. I dont use it a lot but my newest video is like a highlight with music lmao.
Great Vid! Just bought the crf 300l which handlebar do you have?👌
I have a video up of all the mods. But the Protaper CRhigh in red is my favorite
That sounds mint. I'm getting one ASAP
It is definitely an awesome pipe!
@@MotorcyclesOffroad on order as of yesterday, stoked.
That single track at the beginning looks so smooth and flowy, is that a public riding area?
Sounds great can we hear it with out the baffle
What hand guards did you get for the pro taper handlebars. I got the 7/8 pro taper handlebars and my zeta hand guards and jet bark busters don’t fit? Any recommendations? I don’t like riding off-road without the hand guards so my off-road riding has stopped for now
Hey man, most of my upgrades are in this video: ua-cam.com/video/e4Vb8ks54s0/v-deo.html
@@MotorcyclesOffroad thanks!
how does the plug look when running the Yoshimura exhaust on a factory ecu?
sounds good and theirs no poping . can you do a video of pulling the plug and checking it
Well I didn't have fac ECU for long. But I haven't checked.
Great video. Can you tell me what rear fender kit you use?
... .58 seconds. Thank you.
Background music (unneeded noise) is annoying 99% of the time anyway.
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How’s the heat off of the pipe? Particularly right in front of the silencer. The cat on the stock pipe is baking my right thigh.
I haven't noticed anything really. I wear knee guards too, so that might be cutting some of the heat down.
Does the yosh header eliminate the catalytic converter? (does it "de-smog" the bike).
Does the engine run hotter now?
Have you done a ECU remap to get the bike running less lean?
Did you take the baffle out of the slip-on? It sounds pretty loud.
Thanks! 👍🙏
Do they make a heat sheild for this? The Yoshi site only shows the RALLY model, where the header is under a panel. I can see a nice tatoo from this on my right thigh.
I also have a nice burn from all my years of riding lol. Well there is aftermarket shields you can use.
The Yoshi on my V-strom doesn't get any hotter than the heat shield on the CRF 300, so I'm thinking that the outer body of the Yoshi is its own heat shield.
The kit does have directions you have to download it on their website
Yeah I did see that later but you don't really need them. It is straight forward.
I know I did it their way anyway I was super pissed though because one of the nuts holding the stock exhaust on the header was fingertight so pissed somebody didn't do a good PTI on my bike good thing I hadn't ridden it anything more than in my backyard so far
Pdi
How did You to hide.the wire on screen, sorry My english
I m also want to have this sounds;) Looks also perfect
Now that's music to my ears , ahh .
I love the sound of this bike. It sounds even better when I let friends ride it, so I can really hear it.
Cant find a replacement air filter. You?
Honda. I'm in Australia though cost me $18 Aud. Genuine air filter. Most plastics also but I've been waiting a couple of months. Either way finally I can make it look newish again lol
Anyone know when they are going to be in stock again?
Keep looking for this exhaust. Not in stock. Any clues would be helpful.
I have no idea, I bought it from them directly when I first got the bike.
Does the Yoshi pipe have any pops on decel like the drz400 has?
Not that I notice.
Can you use the stock heat shield with the Yoshimura exhaust?
I dont imagine so, but there is heat shields you can buy that will work.
does it drone on highway?
Sweet!!
Hello good info. Did it give you more power or speed?
No, it won't. Needs a chip to have negligible difference.
I just don't get why anyone would want to buy one of these? For sound? The performance is negligible at best.... usually a placebo effect, especially with no chip. Sure weight reduction can help, but maybe lose the weight elsewhere if you catch my drift.
The performance is huge with an aftermarket ECU and intake like I have.
Have you had any issues since installing
Nope, I dont even have the bike anymore lol. I now have a Rally with a black widow exhaust. Im going to be doing a Side by side of stock, black widow, and Yoshi. I sold the 300L to a close friend.
Where are the before after dyno graphs?
ON Yoshimura's website. It would be hard to tell because I also have a DNA intake as well as a an ECU mapped for the upgrades and 91 octane. So mine is performing a bit better then the Yoshi numbers.
I like the sound but I live in a building apartment with 100 neighbors, shit
Did the 5k rattle stop after putting on the new exhaust?
I don't think I ever had the "5k" rattle.
You know the pipe material? Nice bike
I do not, But I do have a PMI machine lol so If I still had it I could have tested the pipe.
does the slip on add more torque than a full system?
No, lol.
Do yall ride with this exhaust on the road?
I don't ride this bike on the road much at all.
Does the yoshi vibrate the seat very badly??
I feel nothing on the seat, tho I do riding standing a ton.
Sounds like the Yoshi is about to stall
It's not. It never stalls.
it seems that it inereases engine power,isn't it?
What range does this thing get per tank ?
2.1 gallons on the 300L, 3.4 gallons on the Rally and 74miles per Gallon.
Is the Yoshi any lighter?
6lbs or so I believe.
Nice
Thanks, I am very happy with it.
Wow that is crazy expensive.. Here in Thailand you can buy that for $100
I heard the ones in Thailand are fake, this one literally just released. Ok I just check the Yoshimura-RD company is here in the us. I did see some "fake" pro circuit pipes on Ebay when I just got the bike. People said they were fake but I dont know because I have never seen them in person.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad How can you know if they are fake? Are they made in plastic?
For me I dont know if they are fake or not. I was told that the ones on ebay from Thailand were fake but idk for sure. But I dont think you have the Yoshimura pipes there is what I was saying. But yeah it does cost a lot, but sounds good and seems to have giving more performance already without a new ECU.
Hi Dee-Shaya, can you share a link to buy it?
Any gain in power?
Not until it's chipped. Then negligible at best.
A little too loud for me. For as often as you’re at heavy throttle on these bikes. It has a bit of a Harley effect. A lot of noise that doesn’t move on quickly. Pretty annoying for pedestrians and neighbors. Gets tiresome to ride with as well. The Q4 would be a bit quieter.
Arrow has a full or slip on exhaust for the 300l that is de-cat but homologated for noise (ECE).
And still you'll shave off 3kg or so
I read that if you get the Thailand mapping on the ECU it helps with any over heating or lean condition.
Right now I am working on getting anew ECU. I havent noticed it heating more or running lean. I think mainly because I have kept the intake the same. So it cant draw extra air in despite it being more open in the exhaust.
That yoshi actually sounds more like the delkivic that i really like
I love it, to me it never sounds to loud on the bike.
Fuel economy???
At that point it didnt change that I noticed but now im sure I lost some with my ECU.
Fools are soon separated from their money, all this exhaust tubing together would be less than 50 bucks.
You are not paying for the tubing, you seem to be the fool of you don't realize you pay for the R&D to make more performance. Not one single person can make something comparable for $50. If you want to be negative then just keep the comments to yourself.
Do you have any backfire?
None at all, at the end of the video there was backfire from the bike Infront of me.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad is it bad for the bike to backfire? Sorry it’s my first bike
@@hectorponce1448 well it's bad because you are not running 100%. It means fuel is burning outside the engine in the exhaust.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad ok thank you. I’m having a hard time trying to buy parts at my loco bike dealership and the stock exhaust has to go. I really do appreciate you answering my questions.
You know when you fill your tank you're getting about a liter and 1/2 of whatever grade gas the last person filled up with. That's what's left in the hose, it doesn't back flush. Feel free to look this up. So you're not really running 91 octane, just paying for it.
Contact me if you want your stock ECU flashed.
I was in contact with someone but we had talked about a whole new ECU fitting my exact criteria. Exchange for, I was going to make a video for it to throw business their way.
Anything anti CCP is good!
$1000 and no burn guard on the pipe.😂😂😂
What do you mean, what is $1,000?
After studying these single cylinder engines and the way they work with exhaust systems….
NEVER change your exhaust system. It can destroy your engine many years earlier.
Well we always buy exhaust from reputable sources like Yoshimura. They spend time on R&D for the system.
Don’t be that guy, motocross has been swapping pipes for years. Over 20k miles on a drz with full yoshi. Those are chances I’m willing to take to not suffocate the motor and sound awful while doing it
@@loganclark312 yes, you can swap exhaust systems, but it doesn’t help power, only makes more noise, and likely reduces power. These single cylinder engines do not work at all like a four stroke motor. The exhaust is designed by the motor manufacturer to bring the fuel into the cylinder using the reflected energy from the exhaust.
It takes quit a bit of engineering to get it to work just right. Throwing a different exhaust on a single cylinder bike is a bad idea. It might work… but it is just as likely, in fact more likely not to work as designed.
@@thatguy6207 Are you describing a two stroke? This is a single cylinder four stroke engine. Even on a two stroke, aftermarket exhausts work very well, as long as they are as you say engineered to work just right. Which, from manufacturers like Yoshimura and Akarapovic, they are.
Way overpriced for what you get.,
I love it, I mean I also have the ECU to match it. You are really paying for the R&D.
Junk exhaust .. get a black widow
... Please explain why. I am searching a full exhaust for a 2021 CRF 300 Rally. I have not modified the air box or did an ECU flash. If I do that, it would be later.
Will it melt the turn signal?
hello. good video. I have a question. you did not have to do any adaptation to install the exhaust pipe? And if you can send me the links from where you ordered the exhaust pipe. thank you in advance
Will this 300 pull my 6'2" 260lbs ?
I'm sure I'll need to buy stiffer springs.
No problems at all :) Im 255 and I have no issues with the springs.
Hello, I am 230lbs. They are definitely soft. You can adjust preload but for heavy off-road anyway you look at it over 200lbs you are going to need suspension on 99% of bikes out there.
@@MotorcyclesOffroad havent rode for quite a few years. what rider weight do you think the suspension is ok for and wouldn't need a new shock? did you adjust your preload?
@@2012theraven the suspension is made for someone 160lbs or less but still works fine if you’re heavier. Very smooth on the road, off-road at high speeds you will probably want to consider a new suspension but that goes for most dualsports from the factory.