GOLF - HOW TO HIT YOUR IRONS STRAIGHT and LONG
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I have always been obsessed with creating a huge amount of lag and then having a lot of shaft lean at impact. The problem was that the harder I try to retain the lag and lean the shaft at impact the more I would throw it away! So annoying!
Even worse, wheni would feel that my lag was really good and I was compressing the ball nicely, BAM. A case of the shanks would him me like a bitch slap to the face.
I had a golf lesson with Monte Scheinblum the other day and I was finally able to retain the lag and have great shaft lean at impact without cheating it by lungeing my head towards the target and I did it all by changing my swing intention to the polar opposite of what I had been doing!!!
Monte had me only take the club back with a no shoulder turn wrist set and then from the top, only feel like I was dumping the lag as hard as possible, just flipping my rigt wrist to a bowed condition. So I gave it a shot, it was simple to do but it feel different, gross feeling really.
But the proof was in the slow mo and OMG I was retaining more lag by trying to dump all of it than I ever had by trying to sustain it.
The key is that trying to flip it speeds up the right hand to keep up and in front of your body. Yes, the hips go first but that will happen naturally.
I made my swing shallower (which I desparately needed) and my 7 iron flew oly about 20 yards further with a smoother feeling swing.
A game changer for me!
Since the lesson I have been to the range 4 time and I am proud to say I have been disciplined enough to not let myself take 1 single "old swing" every swing was with this new feel of "flipping" on the way down.
There is still a lot of work to do, especially when it comes to direction control and the driver but the good shots are so much better than my good shots from before so I know I'm onto something.
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My coach has been telling me to "throw" my right hand at the ball for 3 seasons of golf and I never understood. I was too busy doing what Brandon was doing....trying to copy the pros swing without having all the components. I got up from my chair and did this drill... Just concentrating on "flipping the wrists and the strike was everything I've been looking for. Maybe it took this long to be ready to understand or maybe it was seeing the before and after of Brandon's swings to believe that doing or should I say thinking of doing what I've read NOT TO DO could actually getting me to a better impact. Thank you.
Kathleen Grehlinger Awesome. Thanks. Let me know how it works on the range.
Monte is a genius. I thought this drill was stupid, but then I tried it. It really works. Thanks for putting this out there!
Great program. I have subscribed. Now spend $10.00 for a good windscreen for the microphone!
Monte your great, Brendon you should quiet down and listen to Monte.
Watched this video and it Changed my LIFE! Monte has really helped me turn the "lightbulb" on with this. It makes so much since now. I went to the range and hit the ball more consistently, with more distance, better contact, more draw....I not only impressed myself but was asked to hold a mini clinic for some guys at the range. I didn't tell them I've only been playing for 3 months lol. I was dead on at 100 yards. Surgical with with pitching wedge. 5 iron was hitting the back of the net. Driver was sending balls over net into the neighborhood for sure. Confidence is through the roof. BEST VIDEO ON THE INTERNET. PERIOD. This needs a million hits like yesterday. I can't wait to go to the course with my new and improved swing. This concept of "intent" is the freakin holy grail of golf lessons. Thank you!
David Young Thanks! Please spread the word. lets see a video of your new move.
0% chance they want you to hold a "clinic" after only golfing for 6 months but good try
Is it just me or is Brandon really hard to watch? He reminds me of the other brother in Step Brothers. I want to watch the video because Monte is so damn good but Brandon makes it really hard. Stop talking, stop with all the weird movements, listen and let Monte be the star.
Such a fantastic golf instructor, Monte Scheinblum! One of the best golf lessons on youtube!!
Thank you so much Monte. I was practicing this drill in my room at 1am last night. Today I went and shot my lowest score ever a 93. 5 pars, the most I've ever shot in a round, and generally just hitting the ball so clean. I maybe only duffed or shanked one every now and again, but I was around 8/10 iron shots being really great shots, and this is after about an hr of practicing this drill. This drill really worked for me and the change was unbelievable. Can't wait to see what results more hrs of practice bring me. Thank you so much I've subscribed to your channel and have started watching some of your other clips.
yesterday I watched, practised with my 53deg wedge. Then played 9 holes @ Royal Durban Golf Course with my friends. I am a 9 Handicap. Hit 8 GIR but 3 Putted twice and took the money. Definitely the best Golf Tip I have ever had. Thank You.
I like Monte...
Brendon, you are a smart student and got yourself a great teacher. I do teach but at different field hence encounter similar condition of clients who need adjustment and or proper instructions. To me, convincing many of students to follow the instructions to make them better can get tough especially when they already have built incorrect muscle memory and info but caring teachers never give up and Monty hasn't gave up on you ; ). Monty, I have watched many videos on youtube and read many books for few years to figure out my flaws on long game but almost none of them were useless except this one although recently I found myself extra few yards by tinkering this and that. This video instruction particularly, similar to fly casting, that I never tried and will apply to my golf swing next time. You guys a great pair to making better golf for everyone!
+Andy Kim (The Trout Vacuum) Thanks Andy
Watched the video a few days ago, have been working on it ever since. I have a few questions; how much are you rotating your forearms? I have a flat shoulder plane, how will this effect my shots? Wish I lived in Cali, nothing beats in person. Thanks for posting
Jared Fawson Not much forearm rotation. thanks for watching.
"El hosel." lmao
I also did this drill and completely was floored by video results. Just try made a backswing without turning (feels like I set wrist and lift arms)and on downswing I just try to throw my right wrist angle at the ball. Incredible results. Monte, I live in Orlando and have followed your videos for a couple of years. I tried to go to the 2-3 day school you did in Tampa last year or the year before cause I liked your style and you seem to be teaching very differently to all the other instructors I've gone too. You give me hope that I can become a good golfer. I've learned since that the faster I swing my arms the more unlikely I will flip and instead the more likely I will hit the ball to the right. If you come back to Florida, please let us know. I can't repay you enough for your help and if you come to Orlando would love to meet you. Your the best!!
Scott
+Scott Clark Yeah, swing them fast, make speed your friend
Monte havn't you Really taught him how to release the club propally. Release so underestimated part of the golf swing. Like the video.
Brendan you look like the main agent from the matrix
Watched this video along with the No Turn drill applied what I learned and took it to the range. My impact with the golf ball changed tremendously!!! Will continue to practice and implement these principles thanks for sharing!!!
Keep at it. Let us know if you have success taking it to the course.
Hit my first bucket of balls this method today. I'M A BELIEVER. Much more to come in this breakthrough golf swing. Put a book out PLEASE. This could be the swing that saves golf.
+Ira Shoff You got it, thanks a lot!
wow every golf video on you tube should just link to this one, this has to be the best golf video and channel out.
Thanks RB. It is A VERY different way of thinking that I never would have gotten to on my own and I think it's pretty revolutionary. Let me know your results when you try this out
I watched this video then went to play golf. And Omg! !!!! My best score ever!!!!!
My handicap is 20 so i average 88 to 93 on my local course. Today i just got 82!!!!!!
What else have you got for me ? I wanna get to single figures now! I'm feeling confident!
Congrats, keep that good feeling going. New videos every Wednesday and one for the driver in just 3 days
I am 49 years old and have been playing since i was around 25 or so. I have read tons of books and wasted tons of money on lessons and purchased videos. I am constantly thinking about my golf swing. (Or was) I spent a lot of time trying to swing like the pros. I was trying my damnedest to become a swinger(left sided ). I could do it and I got really good power, but I really had to concentrate on every swing. I have an es12 at home. Not quite a flight scope,but It does give ball speed and distance. I was averaging about 120 mph ball speed swinging that way. But like I said, a lot of concentration had to be put on my swing. I decided it was time I went back to becoming a hitter because it didn't require nearly as much concentration for me. I start out with a little lean , and let my hands set at about my halfway point. The only thing I try to do is throw from my trigger finger on my right hand. Takes a little timing, but the power I get from it is effortless . It may not look effortless , but to me it is. I can get the ball speed with my seven iron between 128 and 132 ,mph. I think what I am doing is what your drill has you doing. Keep up the good work.
Can't believe this was 6 years ago already....
Was hoping Mr. Devore would be a pro by now
Brandon, in 2020 I think this is still one of the best, most important videos you've made. Would love to see you sit down with Monte and review your current swing and what he'd recommend. Are you still stuck on shaft lean at impact? Do you do it? How did you get there, Monte's drill or something else?
Hi. Well you were as good as your word and took on my suggestion to film a golf lesson with Monte. The results speak for themselves. Well done on the video and the improvements in your swing.
Brian Devitt I now give you title of consulting producer to this show, keep the ideas coming.
Had watched this when it first came out and thought it was interesting but had kind of forgot about it. Had a little breakdown in the swing recently and was rerunning some of your vids and hit this one again. Tried it on the range. It worked for me. Then took it to the course. It seriously works. Made a huge difference to clean solid strikes with seemingly less efforts than trying to "hold lag." Probably the best counter intuitive piece of golf swing info I've ever watched that actually worked.
Thanks Monte and Brendon!
Awesome
I don't think he's got a proper take away , his wrist sets on the upswing which i was taught to keep the handle pointed toward my belly button. This alows for a more consistant take away in my opinion.
This is really interesting. I think I understand a big part of golf is what you feel you are doing is not what is happening in reality. Hence why golf instructors do drills to exaggerate a movement to condition the body to feel a certain way. However, when Monte ask you to set your wrist early...isn’t this counter intuitive to all the instructions on creating width and setting your wrist late? Are you setting your wrist early as part of this “exaggerated” move but in reality your wrist was set at the perfect time even though you feel it is early? When I look a the slow motion, i feel your swing looks pretty narrow...
I just unsubscribed to about 15 golf channels , the only 2 I have now are impact zone golf and this one.
I didn't know William H Macy played golf...
+JChills Is the instructor Will Farrell!!!
I so wish I was told long ago it's all hands the rest automatic systematic. Sense I applied this wrist move results are amazing..
Love you guys. Say, check this out and see what you think?
This slow motion: ua-cam.com/video/6dG9hb3_blo/v-deo.html shows something quite different than how golf is taught. All the instructors almost to a man or woman insist you strike irons down, covering the ball first and then take shallow divot. A friend of mine (he's a scratch) showed me last summer, insisted that I hit before the ball by an inch to 1.5 inches to begin skimming the grass, then hit the side of the ball. I humored him and it worked, but when he was gone, I laughed and went back to a descending blow. Tonight I looked at this video above and it shows conclusively that my friend was right. I went out to my mat in the garage and hit every club like a pro into my net, clean, explosive shots! Trust me, this is for real!
I've never felt so similar to a player in my life. For 2 years I've been working on this, I have a great fluid swing and I look at it face on and it makes me sick. The obsession with getting the lower half moving forward leaves the hands behind (lagging) completely wrong. I care more about forward shaft lean than scores and I can still shoot pretty well. If I can get proper impact, who knows what can happen. I'm going to try this today...
My swing looks a whole lot like the "before" swing. Tried this on the range today with pretty good results. The most noticeable thing was that it felt easier to hit good shots. I didn't have to sync my lower body with my shoulders and hands like I used to. As long as I swing my right hand/arm out toward the ball (so I don't pull it), I don't have to worry about anything else to make solid contact and hit the ball straight.
Yeah, it limits the swing thoughts, for be the flip feeling drives the whole swing.
@@BEBETTERGOLF So true. Scores will drop because of limited swing thoughts alone.
Side note. Nicklaus shifted then "hit from the top" My point" what's shifting got to do with it? The ball don't know what foot you're on. hahaha.
Can you comment about throwing the right hand. It has worked for me but seemed to shallow out my long irons strikes too much???
I'm a 6 marker and have been trying to get shaft lean at impact to improve my consistency but with mixed success. I tried Montie's "No Turn and Cast Drill" on the range and I was hitting bullets. This is a revelation and really works. Huge!!
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Just tried this at the range for shits and giggles and could not believe how solid and consistent my shots were. For me this was a great tip!
no turn, early wrist set, wrist flip with body turn... this intention really made a LOT of sense!!! this will definitely help a lot of folks like me... Thanks for a great golf lesson...
***** Let Us Know how it goes!
***** It's really been working for me. My shanks have been absent since I have implemented this method. It's way better than Steve Elkington's hold the downswing until the hip fires... or until your back hurts...
That a great way to be a stuck flipper, he was and is a great player, I wouldn't take a lesson from him though, the lesson he did with trent dilfer the QB was hilarious, Trent's head was spinning.
The counterintuitive commentary at the end of the video is the holy grail of golf instruction.
Here is a much better explanation of why you have a faster clubhead speed and shallower clubhead attack angle in your "after" swing compared to your "before" swing.
See post #2 in my NGI golf forum thread.
newtongolfinstitute.proboards.com/thread/567/monte-scheinblum-video
Jeff.
+Jeffrey Mann Thanks jeff, you did a lot of good work on this subject.
I dont expect anybody to believe but yesterday I played my best iron game ever. I didnt even had a chance to "flip burgers" on the driving range. I just went ahead and "flip burgers" on my game and my partner said my iron shots look like I had been taking secret lessons. I cant figure this out yet but the "flipping burgers" work!! I am puzzled !! keep up the good work Monte!!
You are speeding up that right arm. Good job!
One of your best instructions yet, thanks Monty, well explained.
Did the no turn cast drill for one range bucket and then took it to the course. Count me among the lucky ones, I put up one of my best scores ever thanks in large part to three birdies, all of which were direct results of drastically improved ball striking with mid irons and wedges.
Still pretty flabbergasted that deliberately trying to flip with the right wrist on the down swing through impact yields such great results.
JMT970 That's awesome! What did you shoot?
Nice video Monte. You've learned a lot from me !! CS
Interesting question. "Is this a medical case?" Haha!!
Wow!
You've come a long way since then. 👍
Sorry Monte it didn't work for me, wish it had it's Captain's day on Saturday then the club championship the weekend after!
Richard Edwards That's too bad. Let us know how you do.
your impact position at the beginning is almost exactly like mine currently, really enjoying these vids and super excited about putting some of these things into practise
spriggo786 Thanks. I'm so happy that crappy impact position is a thing of the past.
my ball flight has come down only a little bit. but i'm now able to play a lower ball flighted shot when i want to now and my consistancy of strike is a million times better!
Another great video, keep them coming.
Thanks
Still the best swing you ever had
Shot 82 at Trent Park Golf Club. shotzoom.com/rounds/38384624-704d-4563-8a7a-bffc1e8cdbc1
Lawrence G awesome
I would kill for your "bad" swing.
Extremely interesting points. Looking forward to having a run at this.
oliver gilmartin Go for it. Let us know how it works out.
I have the same issue with too long of a backswing, too much turn, not enough wrist hinge. This instruction is so brilliant, so glad I found your videos. Monte's the man!
Have you taken it to the range yet?
BE BETTER GOLF Yep tried for the first time yesterday at the range and it was enlightening. Ive played golf my whole life and recently had a swing analysis at Golf Tec which was very helpful and I learned how I was working way too hard with very similar faults as yours. Monte basically gets you into the correct position with much easier swing thoughts. Its going to take work for me to really just concentrate on just hinging my wrists to prevent overturning and getting too long but thats what I need most. Doing lots of 1/2 to 3/4 shots before hitting 100% helps a lot
The best lesson I've heard ever.
I think that there is a rational TGM/biomechanical explanation as to why an "attempt" to use an active right wrist flipping action actually increases forward shaft lean impact.
See - newtongolfinstitute.proboards.com/thread/567/monte-scheinblum-video
Jeff.
Jeffrey Mann Thanks for the thought you put into this, I am checking it out.
B
Jeffrey Mann btw I think people confuse the flip feeling in this video with rolling and can hit pulls, you have some thoughts on the difference?
BE BETTER GOLF I don't think that the flip "feeling" phenomenon predisposes to rolling through impact (which is non-DH hand release action) while you are seemingly using a drive-hold (DH) hand release action through impact.
See my review paper on hand-release actions.
perfectgolfswingreview.net/HandRelease.htm
We could have a Skype video conversation if you are interested.
jeffmanngolfer@gmail.com
I also have the problem of sliding forward on the downswing and flipping at the Bottom similar to what you had "before". I tried this "no turn- cast" drill and I'm now sliding less (about two inches at my shoulder level) but I am still flipping at the bottom. Could you make a suggestion that would eliminate the flip and produce forward shaft lean instead? Thanks in advance...
Rrracket You need to speed up the right hand. Take a shorter backswing and on the way down think head back arms forward with an aggressive cast. Give it a shot.
BE BETTER GOLF Okay, well I decided to toss out all the tips I have seen on UA-cam and start over. I went to the range yesterday and my only swing thoughts were 'balance' and 'loose grip', which I think Monte stresses as basics to key on. Also I slowed my swing down. I managed to get back all the distance I had lost these past few weeks. Was hitting my 5 iron 200 yds, which is good for me as it was 165- 170 just last week. Even so I booked some lessons with Monte to get his feedback. Thanks Brandon and everyone else for posting your tips.
Rrracket
200 yard 5 iron is good for anybody (minus about .000000001% of golfers. Way to go
Great video! I too have been using the float load method over the last year to increase my lag and have struggled with distance control. Using what Monte showed you during this lesson I went out and shot my best round of the year! Looking forward to more of your videos!
Kevin Craft Thank Kev, what is your handicap and what did you shoot?
BE BETTER GOLF I am an 8 handicap and shot 77....hit a bunch more greens in regulation.
Perfect video for me. I have been working hard at ball first and then divot contact. Could not keep my head from going forward either. I found my way to setting my hands by my self and hit a lot of better shots but my bad misses would be shanks. It felt like I could not release, The idea of the release in this video was the magic key. Results were straight shots and 18 yards more distance per club. BTW the head moves down slightly and back slighly at impact. It was a great lesson for me.
Thanks
Doug Morrison You saying I should feel my head move slightly down and backwards at impact?
BE BETTER GOLF No, I am saying that I am seeing my head staying inside the box but moving about an inch backwards and about 2 inches down. The ball flight is a tad higher but considerably longer, I have been using this for a week and the video is similar to your results.
Gotcha, Great
Monte is a genius.
Is this Tony Finaus swing?
I'm not so sure yet about this "No Turn Cast Drill." I've tried it indoors and while the Trackman numbers are better than with my normal "pretty" swing, slow motion video shows that I'm still unhinging my wrists too early in the downswing. I've been fighting this malady for years and while I score well (6 hdc'p) my iron distances are lacking so I've bookmarked this video and will watch it again and again to see if I missed something. Maybe the thing about moving the arms through? Or is it my transition? I dunno...this is such a hard game!
Great video!
I tried this in my game on Thursday. Set the wrist and try to cast the right hand as fast as possible. Despite 1 quad & 5 doubles, still managed to shoot my best score since April 2019. Also my spinout disappeared and proper weight transfer resulted. Best ball contact for a very long time. Looking forward to future improvement as I become more used to this swing routine.
This could have been a lesson for me! I'm a 4 handicap with the same swing flaws outlined hear, and I was shocked with monte's advice.....then I went to the range and tried it!!! I couldn't believe the results! Shallowed out my divots and strike was more consistent . . . . however, I still get chunky contact sometimes which shakes my confidence in the no turn cast drill as, I agree, it is totally counter intuitive to most golf instruction . . . . any additional insight or advice to buoy my resolve? Thanks for a great show....love the vids!
Tried this. No help. I have officially quit. Clubs are gone. Frustration and anger won. Instruction is obscenely expensive and will no longer water any of my time.
But it's a c*** all talk no action
I always wondered why some of my best shots at the practice range were coming during my first few "warm-up" swings. This video clearly shows that I was closer to the ideal position at the top using what felt like a half-swing than my full swing. Then I added the "flip" Monty talked about on the downswing and felt even more solid contact. Because there is little excess body or hand movement everything is in balance and the swing is easy to reproduce. One of your best videos, Monty, and look forward to more practical advice like this!
It looks like to achieve the 'new' swing, you aren't taking as full of a swing as you're 'old' swing. Did the ball go as far? Straight?
It's hard to believe that he hit a 7 iron 194 yards. The average tour pro hits a 7 iron about 175 yards. Even factoring in a tail wind, that doesn't seem likely.
Question for you Monte and Brendan. If this is a drill. How do you implement this into a full swing? Or is this a feel for how a full swing should feel like? Maybe I am getting confused on the "drill" part. This is great stuff.
Tried this on the range today. Shocked to see amazing results. Completely different feel what impact was so much better. Hitting an eight iron 160 plus yards. Are you kidding me. Lol Question is your grip strong or neutral ? I've experienced so many problems in getting stuck with my right elbow on the downswing with my right hip. This eliminated all of my swing thoughts. The important part for me was on the way down letting the hands go. Thank you so much for sharing.
Chris Koumas Neutral grip maybe even slightly weak for me
Ok great thank you. Going to keep working on it. The swing feels so much different than before. Thanks again
Chris Koumas an 8 iron 160+ is pretty standard among decent hitters. Not trying to be rude but I hit my PW 150.
I have the same right hip issue, I saw Monte yesterday and he gave me a great drill to keep the right hip back longer. Video up soon. Thx for watching!
@@gingerbeef2667 No you don't
I've seen your lessons with Mike and now also with Monte. Just wondering what methods/principals you are currently using Mike or Monte's as they are considerably different particularly where the hands go on the way down as Mike wants them in tight to the body and Monte want them more forward out in front of you. Love to get your thoughts.
Brendon - it's amazing how much better your swing is today. You are getting "better", no doubt. If Bobby saw your offsides move in this video he may have a heart attack.
You really will put all golf coaches out of business if you promote this lesson more it's just how amateur golfers will enjoy the game finally broke the code sorted
Brendon watched this video a long time ago and really did not focus on it. I was way to into trying to get more distance with lag. BINGO now I'm realizing how much this lesson might have been the moment things started to change for you. This has made a big difference in my ball striking as well.
golf nerd....check.
By far the most single helpful golf video on the planet ever! Transformed swing in 10 minutes after hacking for years.
I watched the video twice this morning before my 10:30 tee time. I got in a groove on number five, and finished the entire round "hitting" it the best I ever have!!! I even managed to get a great height on my driver, normally a low bullet hook...
Big golf nurd am i
So how do you incorporate this into the full swing? Do you still so the bump? Or do you start the downswing with this right hand cast
Of course, I should have known. Golf is a game of contradictions.
Good stuff! I'll definitely give this a try. Is this just for irons? How about for a driver?
thank the lord above for Monte... went to the range today a did this and it took a bit but it came around and I was hitting decent shots..will keep practicing this.
At what point would Monte or any coach look at your equipment and make suggestions on shaft or irons?
I don't know if I am in the right impact position buy I am hitting it pretty good after watching this video. I think Marty is on to something.
Damn, now that's some of the best results in a short period of time I've ever seen as far as a swing change.
The "No Turn and Cast Drill" drill can be useful to isolate upper and lower body, but eventually they will and should work as an unit.
Yep, it's a specific fault fix
I've been an even worse flipper than Brendan forever. Can't wait to take this advice to the range
I just curious what happened during the 20 min. off camera.
Been trying this recently and keep hooking the ball. Any idea where i could be going wrong?
Interesting that I have found it easier to implement this with driver then shorter irons killing driver. Still a little fat with short irons
I enjoy most of your videos. However on many of them the audio is very poor.
So is it a throw motion (lateral hinge) or a flip motion (rolling wrists over)?
intent...club to ball to target, makes sense to me. gonna work towards that.
So we dont focus on a 1 piece takeaway at all then? Will that create inconsistency down the line?
Does this swing work with all clubs including driver and wedges??
The "no turn" drill almost turns his swing into something like Lee Trevino.
Omg.....this is what I have been trying to find to improve my game. Thank you!!
Richard Le You're welcome!
amazing results... does this apply to woods and driver?