Kia e-Soul charging on Ionity vs 50 kW
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
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Bjorn may be the most "real" UA-camr right now! At least for EVs and the interesting crowds they draw
That KiaBjørn 👕! Awesome 😎
Being a tall person, the Soul has always been one of my favorite cars. Now that this new 64 kWh version has come out, I'm seriously thinking about getting one. Provided they make them available in my area...
The spreadsheet was very informative, very good thinking
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Looking forward to the video Bjorn & thanks for posting this video.
Great breakdown, Bjorn.
Your chart starting at 6:41 also applies to the Ampera-E/Bolt EV, but the difference between 50 kW and 100 kW up to 60% is only about 10 minutes.
It would be awesome to see this same comparison between Model 3 SR+ and LR
not in the same category - unfair comparison on battery size and charging technology. But you can do it for yourself by looking at bjorns m3 charging time elapsed video in one window and this in another.
Waiting for the new Ioniq ev testdrive !
Very useful video, thx Bjorn
Have a nice trip, uncle Kiabjørn!
Very useful. I'll aim at 75% from now on 👍
We love the front, but the back.... Uhhh sheeeet ⚡🔙 Thanks for the comparison Bjorn!
There is a company in Canada called GBatteries, which claims they have AI charger that can charge a Chevy volt or battery pack of the same size in 15 mins. It would be awesome if you could get a interview with them. They say they are working with car companies get this into newer EVs
Charge table at 6:45. Charge time 10-80% is the "full charge" time useful for comparing with other cars.
back in the days, but(t) the result are the same stopp charging before 70% and drive to the next charger
It's great comparison.
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I'm not going that way. But thanks for the trip.
Same table for old and new Ioniq (when the new one will be out) please..
100 Kw would have been really sweet, the tapering is just too aggressive on the e-soul.
This is why I still love my 2017 94 Ah i3 Rex, I don't have to spend any time charging at all until I get to my destination, in Ireland we have quite a lot of 3 Phase 22 Kw AC chargers, each charge point has 2 X 22 Kw outlets so I can charge my i3 @11 Kw and it makes a big difference. Use the Rex at 120-130 Km/hr and use 11 Kw AC when I get to my destination or I can use DC but the Rex is just so convenient I would find it difficult to let go. Perhaps the VW id.3 might have decent 100 KW charging and not have such aggressive tapering + it's Rear Wheel Drive and that makes a big difference.
By the way the battery life on the i3 94 ah is amazing, after nearly 3 years and almost 80,000 Kms I still have 29-29.2 Kwh from 29.6 Kwh new !
nice video
Nice reference to Braindead/Dead Alive there :)
Hope to see you in Rødekro Denmark:-)
We are waiting for the trip :) Are you ever going to test Toyota Mirai and Hyundai Nexo?
Nice livestream 👍 tomorrow
So it boils down to how much time you have and how you value it. Also what does the faster charging do to battery and cooling system amortization relative to the slower one.
Hi Bjorn, looks like Kia reduced the KW delivered on the 2021 Soul (64KWH model) maybe worth checking out, I thought they would have improved the charging rate on the new model, might want to test it out before the cold weather hits! 10-80% is now spec'ed at 47 minutes verses 44 minutes on the 2020 (on 100KW DC charger)
12:07 lmao that dirty joke xD
It would be interesting to do this same test where they charge by the minute instead of kWh, especially where the choice is 50kw or 150kw, presuming the 150 kw charger will charge at least 2x per minute more than the 50 kw charger.
In this video it shows the car was almost made for a 50 kw charger, except for needing a higher voltage battery pack to get more out of the 125A limit of the charger like I PACE did. You are using 90% of the charger full capabilities the entire time, except for a short period at the end for battery conditioning. I like that it throttles at 77% and gives the battery time to cool using power from the charger on the way to 80%.
The Chevy Bolt can’t even do this because it tapers even on a 50 kw charger, so you end up taking a long time PLUS wasting a lot of money if paying by the minute.
Also in the US where it’s common to charge by the minute, fossil fuel prices are low, so it’s very easy for an EV to actually cost more per mile than a gasoline car, especially a self-charging Prius getting 50 mpg.
And while it’s not a lot more expensive, it’s the principle of the matter which upsets people because they can’t tell that lie about how much cheaper it is to drive their EV on trips. They normally have to say how cheap it is to plug in at home, but there are millions of people who have no way to charge at home, some already own EVs, and those are the ones that need more convincing to buy an EV because it’s not as convenient.
Fortum charges 2.5 NOK/min for 50 kW and 3.5 NOK/min for 100+ kW.
Bjørn Nyland, interesting. So for this car, either of the two chargers cost the same to charge? Did you happen to record the final price to charge using the 50kw and 100kw? I think this will be of interest to prospective buyers.
Clearly the Bolt/Amperage-e would pay more charging to 80% on the 100kw charger. So the cost to charge on each station would be interesting.
I think the e tron is going to be very cheap per kWh.
And when you test the new Ioniq with 320v battery, that’s going to Jack the cost per kWh up pretty high.
I know it’s not easy to compare cost per kWh using a standard test like 10%-80% charge because each car has a different charging profile, and you may charge only to 70% or 50% to avoid the high priced kWh at the end.
Perhaps along with your trademark time lapse you can put the cost per kWh at each taper so people can see that the price actually tripled by time the soul reached 80% on the 100 kw charger.
@@imho7250 Each network has its own prices, it wouldn't be relevant for him to include the price he paid. You have to do your own maths with the info provided. Maybe he could ad how much kWh he charged if the charger shows it.
Kévin Lind, it’s all data, and if Bjorn collects it, it always gives him something to make content on. He can compare networks against each other, as well as each car on various chargers.
Bjorn is Asian, he doesn’t need the real time cost to be displayed on the charger. He knows the Ancient art of math, long forgotten by western civilization.
And so far, nobody has really done a deep dive on this. It’s something that apartment dwellers need to at least get a basic foundation on so they can check prices in their area at the local chargers.
Real time pricing... like on gas stations? Interesting.
Try the 175 kw charger at Löddeköpinge
what would happen if u charge e soul with circle k' s 150kw chargers? Can e soul handle or charge faster?
Not sure if this is a Niro Ev manual glitch, but the charging screen for the driver dash shows the car charging at 200kw, does the soul's manual show this error too? If I could attach a picture on here I would.
I was wondering for a trip of around 1000km. Is it better to go charge more often from 10% to 55% (which costs 25min) or to charge less but longer: from 10% to 78% (which costs 45min)
My guess would be to charge more often and reach your destination earlier, but i do not have any experience in this. Can anyone, who might have already done this, explain which option is better.
(i understand that it depends on the amount of chargers at those ranges, but lets assume that there is a charger at the calculated distances for both scenario's)
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huge difference between 50 KW DC and 100 kW DC...
Does the 2020 e-Niro (UK version) have CCS2?
We finally got some @electrifyamerica 350kw DC fast charge stations, on CCS would this still top off at 76kw?
It would because the Kia EVs are limited to 77 kW charge speed (peak).
I've tested charging my Kona 64kW and on a 50kW charger, under 50 percent I had 48kW but above 50 it's dropping to 35 and by 60 to 20-something. Is something wrong with my car or was that a shitty charger?
*64 kWh
@@bjornnyland yes, correct I dropped the h. But this speed isn't correct I suppose?
The faster you charge a battery, the faster it will reach its max voltage which will trigger the decrease of amps.
The 39 kWh Version is slower than a eGolf 😫
Very informative! Thx!
Help me count, will travelling with an Ioniq 28 kWh and charging on Ionity be faster than with the (Kia/Hyundai) triplets?
Video title is missing a "100". 😉
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@@nicholasmcneill2763 You can edit comments, but since You commented "First" You probably don't know that.
@@ZillionPrey - your point worth caring about, is what?
So almost no difference ;) tesla rules...