Recreating Famous Katz Deli Sandwiches but Made from PLANTS

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  • Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
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  • @tamcon72
    @tamcon72 19 днів тому +45

    Holy Cow! {no cows were harmed in the making of this video} You lucked out with that meat slab! What an amazing thing to experiment with! The results look delicious and authentic. I also really loved your soliloquy to sandwich sauces. It was touching in a very Midwestern nostalgia way. Thanks for posting 🙂

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +7

      It was WILD!!! I had a good idea it was going to come out pretty great but I was still just floored with the results.

    • @mediaconnector
      @mediaconnector 19 днів тому

      @@SauceStache Frist of all, I am not a vegan (and not intend to go that way) but I really do enjoy your videos and hat down to the creativity behind this livestyle! I do really like to broaden my horizon and intrigued to taste couple of your recipes just to compare… here is my question, you always do the tastecheck with Monica at the end of the video, how do you know how a real piece of meat will taste when you are fully vegan? You know that real pastrami recipes are also deleviping, it sure is not the same as it was like 5-10 years ago. Sorry about my English, not my first language :) cheers from Cologne/Germany

    • @KarenAlexandrite-aka-PinkRose
      @KarenAlexandrite-aka-PinkRose 19 днів тому +2

      ​@@mediaconnectorLike many vegans/vegetarians, both Mark and Monica grew up eating meat, so they know what it tastes like. It's nice to know that, although you aren't one yourself, you're open to trying animal-free food. And your English is fine! 😊

    • @dianew7058
      @dianew7058 2 дні тому

      @@mediaconnector he isn't vegan...

  • @wanderleyceschim2881
    @wanderleyceschim2881 19 днів тому +42

    This looks great, except... what's the point of this video if I can't buy the Chunk Foods products myself?

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому +6

      Apply the brine idea to some other fake meat.
      Or buy their product.

    • @theorthodoxapologeticschan9378
      @theorthodoxapologeticschan9378 19 днів тому +12

      My guess is that they're building hype for a B2C release

    • @ssatva
      @ssatva 19 днів тому +4

      I think most of the 'restaurant only' products want the cache of being featured by chefs, then expect to launch a consumer product.
      They want to overcome resistance in restaurants, and offering them an exclusive product first is one way to get them interested.
      And this all goes to making these products more accepted in general.
      If I understand the strategy! It's been a while since the few articles I read on this... >_

    • @GS-lq2is
      @GS-lq2is 18 днів тому +1

      @@theorthodoxapologeticschan9378 B2C?

    • @Rat__Wife
      @Rat__Wife 18 днів тому +1

      I can’t even figure out what restaurants serve it

  • @caspianprince
    @caspianprince 19 днів тому +35

    ...sits in the UK, staring wistfully over the sea wondering when it will arrive here...

    • @emmahallard1949
      @emmahallard1949 19 днів тому

      Yes!😂

    • @dianeyhb
      @dianeyhb 18 днів тому +2

      I’ve had 3D printed vegan meat in London that’s probably just as good as this! It was the closest thing to steak I’ve ever had! I’ve also found a vegan steak in supermarkets there that tasted like corned beef. The UK has great vegan meat options!

    • @ThonyVezbe
      @ThonyVezbe 18 днів тому +2

      Have you tried Juicy Marbles products? They look quite similar and can be found in the UK

    • @TheKang0000
      @TheKang0000 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@emmahallard1949, Chunk's factory is actually in Israel (that's also where they do their R&D). So maybe they'll export to the UK sooner than later, given that it's actually closer.

    • @cerbzzz7147
      @cerbzzz7147 9 днів тому

      You guys have redefine meat steak there while we don't 😅

  • @JTMusicbox
    @JTMusicbox 19 днів тому +13

    That’s awesome! From slab to finished product it held up and looked convincingly like meat the entire time!

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +3

      Thank you!! I knew it was going to be impressive but I still had little doubts about how far it would really go. Even in the end pulling it out and seeing the texture, then how juicy it was. I was just shocked.

  • @patriciavazquez3047
    @patriciavazquez3047 19 днів тому +4

    Where can you buy the chunk food slab?

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому

      There’s a site called Google that pulls up some possible results.

  • @julie3865
    @julie3865 19 днів тому +18

    Thank you for all your creativity! Is is highly appriciated. 😄

  • @hollyferay8131
    @hollyferay8131 19 днів тому +8

    What is the Veef slab made from? Mushroom, banana flours, pea protien? Is it gluten free?

    • @sarzootashoota351
      @sarzootashoota351 7 днів тому

      Not gluten free. Chunk is made with water, cultured soy protein (defatted soy flour, soy protein isolate, gluten), coconut oil, natural flavors, beet juice concentrate color, iron, salt, vitamin B12.

    • @hollyferay8131
      @hollyferay8131 7 днів тому

      @sarzootashoota351 I just looked up soy protein isolate . Which according to the internet search says spI is Gf. Those natural flavors are the only thing I question as a possible hidden gluten mask.

    • @sarzootashoota351
      @sarzootashoota351 7 днів тому

      @@hollyferay8131 I am just copying and pasting the ingredients from their website.

  • @AngelicaSecondLife
    @AngelicaSecondLife 19 днів тому +10

    Oh my goodness! Among the things I miss is pastrami ❤ I want to come to your house for lunch 😂 I’m so envious… I am SO impressed with how much plant based is coming on, I have some seitan in the fridge I started making 2 days ago, it was meant to be beefy looking but it’s more chik-n-y, you are a true inspiration, thank you.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +4

      It's just crazy how far plant based meats have come, this is even more impressive than I could have imagined, really was.
      Thank you so much and good luck with your beefy seitan! ( sometimes its ok to just pivot, ive been surprised with textures when I was going for something else)

    • @AngelicaSecondLife
      @AngelicaSecondLife 19 днів тому +2

      @@SauceStache thanks ☺️ Im going to try to get hold of some already done gluten for my future experiments 😂 I hate mess and WTF method is too messy for me! It seems that’s the way people are going now, just need to source it here in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @mrbbqcraig
    @mrbbqcraig День тому

    Maaaan that looks so frikin' deeeelish ‼️🤟✨
    I live in Japan and it's such a battle to find anything remotely close to something like that ‼️‼️

  • @susielecompte2017
    @susielecompte2017 19 днів тому +2

    Nice! How did you learn so much about cooking? Culinary school?

  • @k9kroz
    @k9kroz 19 днів тому +7

    We need an affiliate link for Chunk

    • @bmorlan35able
      @bmorlan35able 18 днів тому +2

      Right now they are only selling to restaurants. Maybe one day consumers will get it.

  • @corbanx0809
    @corbanx0809 19 днів тому +3

    I'm sooo jealous :) It will take forever until this is available in the EU/Germany. And I miss steak so much.

    • @LJay205
      @LJay205 19 днів тому +2

      Green Mountain Steak is pretty good, I think Edeka might have it

    • @corbanx0809
      @corbanx0809 19 днів тому

      @@LJay205 Yeah, it's decent. Even the steak from Aldi is ok. But it's still far away from a good medium rare ribeye...roastbeef.. or tenderloin.

  • @Bray_TheVibe_
    @Bray_TheVibe_ 19 днів тому +4

    Wow - that looks delicious!
    Ps.
    I’m also from Youngstown, Ohio. Born and Raised.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +1

      Thank you!!
      Love Youngstown! Will always be a home to me!

    • @Bray_TheVibe_
      @Bray_TheVibe_ 19 днів тому

      You’re welcome! I’ll have to give this sauce a try!
      🤘🏾

  • @dianew7058
    @dianew7058 17 днів тому

    Chunk steaks are available at Webstaurant right now

  • @TigerGreene
    @TigerGreene 19 днів тому +8

    Hey Mark, is there a way to enter this contest without needing to create an Instagram account? I've deliberately avoided making one because I do not want to support Meta, and non members are blocked from seeing your page. But I definitely DO want to support you. (love your cookbook btw!)

  • @maddieadams75
    @maddieadams75 19 днів тому +2

    The chunk meat looks very nice. ❤ looks yummy

  • @bigmoneyv9977
    @bigmoneyv9977 16 днів тому

    I like the fact that the sauce is low sodium.

  • @bleutitanium6513
    @bleutitanium6513 19 днів тому +7

    I'm not Vegan, but I do meatless meals... this looks absolutely delicious. It really does look like meat. And from your other video on Plant Basics chunks, I just ordered a multi pack and some seasonings. You are very inspirational ! Thanks for the great videos. Even us non-vegans love your content !!!

  • @connysgenusswelt
    @connysgenusswelt 17 днів тому

    Oh, wow, very delicious

  • @dereakcolumbus3603
    @dereakcolumbus3603 13 днів тому

    Super impressive

  • @r.m8146
    @r.m8146 14 днів тому

    awesome

  • @BrandiRLove
    @BrandiRLove 8 днів тому

    Where do they sell chunk?

  • @bobogliddabrun
    @bobogliddabrun 16 днів тому

    Do you think you will be attempting to recreate your own version of this steak? I looked the company up and it appears they only sell to restaurants

  • @the0neskater
    @the0neskater 16 днів тому

    Doees that first brine/marinade actually do anything? There was no acid so it wouldn't penetrate, and you washed it after soaking it over night which seems like it would just wash it all off? I'd love to see a comparison with and without honestly.

  • @emilystjacques5238
    @emilystjacques5238 18 днів тому

    As a vegetarian, you asking Monica her opinion always feels like you have her at gunpoint 😂

  • @KevinMasonJr
    @KevinMasonJr 18 днів тому +1

    Didn’t know you were from Ohio. That’s awesome!!! I’m in Columbus Ohio!!!

  • @ada5141
    @ada5141 18 днів тому

    Where is the recipe?? Your blog post doesn’t have it

  • @optomal7
    @optomal7 18 днів тому

    Not steak sauce sounds like a product I would buy at Omega Mart.

  • @jaymayhoi
    @jaymayhoi 16 днів тому

    oh man! pls adopt me into your household

  • @K-MHamm
    @K-MHamm 17 днів тому

    I bet this would work great in a Reuben Sandwich as well!

  • @octoberandreasbejan8931
    @octoberandreasbejan8931 18 днів тому

    Lol 😂 the slab looks like the spell book from hocus pocus

  • @DiannaUrbigkit-kr4yf
    @DiannaUrbigkit-kr4yf 14 днів тому

    Can you buy this already prepared.

  • @margarett_b
    @margarett_b 19 днів тому +2

    Oh I am so so glad they decided to partner up with you! It's absolutely amazing to be highlighting brands like this and wow, you made many of us want these in the supermarkets at some point :D

  • @thespiritualistoslo
    @thespiritualistoslo 19 днів тому

    I live in Norway - don't think the sauce or the 'meat' will get here 🤣

  • @Taliamama
    @Taliamama 2 дні тому

    how can I get this is CANADA !!!???

  • @GS-lq2is
    @GS-lq2is 18 днів тому +6

    Come on Chunk - start selling in grocery stores!

  • @tmntaddict
    @tmntaddict 18 днів тому

    Have you previously made your own pastrami?

  • @josemangual9818
    @josemangual9818 19 днів тому

    Needs Cole slaw

  • @Nicol-ioli-oh
    @Nicol-ioli-oh 19 днів тому

    Oh to have a vegan pastrami sandwich

  • @erikaorrrealtor4241
    @erikaorrrealtor4241 19 днів тому +4

    What is this chunk vegan meet made of? Is there any soy in it?

    • @Cleaner-World
      @Cleaner-World 19 днів тому

      Chunk is made with water, cultured soy protein (defatted soy flour, soy protein isolate, gluten), coconut oil, natural flavors, beet juice concentrate color, iron, salt, vitamin B12.

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому

      😂

    • @erikaorrrealtor4241
      @erikaorrrealtor4241 19 днів тому +1

      @@ericmalitz it's not funny. Soy makes me sick. So I really need to know.

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому

      @@erikaorrrealtor4241
      You’re specifically allergic? If not, I doubt it makes you sick.
      I’m sure Google will pretty easily bring up the ingredients list.

    • @sc5475
      @sc5475 16 днів тому

      Yes, it's made from naturally fermented soy protein.

  • @tommj4365
    @tommj4365 18 днів тому

    I like when vegans tell me I wouldn't tell this apart from real meat.

  • @beverlyodom-jackson2329
    @beverlyodom-jackson2329 19 днів тому +1

    Where can I buy this vegan meat

  • @thekell
    @thekell 19 днів тому +2

    Vestrami

  • @jimmygreeson160
    @jimmygreeson160 17 днів тому

    I wonder if you could cook this in a smoker to add that extra meaty kick?

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  17 днів тому +1

      You totally could, I did actually smoke this, not in a dedicated smoker but using a very common smoking technique!

  • @AntonioMerulla
    @AntonioMerulla 16 днів тому

    Why don't you ship your sauce to EU? 😞 I'd like to try it....

  • @bethanynichols7097
    @bethanynichols7097 19 днів тому

    This sounded like and looks like corned beef! Is there much of a difference?

  • @cristianbordeanu1353
    @cristianbordeanu1353 19 днів тому +1

    dude...

  • @bigpete5486
    @bigpete5486 17 днів тому

    Those are wood chips not chunks. Better to use larger pieces of wood and don’t soak as that just adds steam rather than smoke.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  17 днів тому

      yeah! I used chunk wood charcoal and topped them with the soaked wood chips!

  • @DiaboloMaster95
    @DiaboloMaster95 19 днів тому

    I should call her

  • @Edge2177
    @Edge2177 19 днів тому +4

    Awesome coverage thanks

  • @Jesus.the.Christ
    @Jesus.the.Christ 19 днів тому

    You need to show off that beautiful dog.

  • @shadoeedl
    @shadoeedl 19 днів тому +1

    sauce srache home of the slopy joe guaranteed to to make a the sauciest of sauce staches also when is chunk going o sale to the public caus when i saw the thumbnail i thought you had gone back to meat lol ithoght we would get the sandwhich that made you go back to meat

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому

      hahah maybe one day there will be a sauce Stache sloppy Joe spot! I still dream of it!!! and I know right? It BLEW my mind.

  • @vasiovasio
    @vasiovasio 17 днів тому +1

    Great video!
    Just a note - you lose so much weight!
    I even play few of your videos from 2-3 years ago to be sure it is you!
    Congratulations and keep going! 🥦🥑😊

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  17 днів тому

      Thank you so much!!! It's been a lot of work and a long journey!!!

  • @andrewwashere82
    @andrewwashere82 19 днів тому

    Doesn't pastrami sandwiches come with Swiss cheese and/or sauerkraut?
    I'm pretty sure you made a vegan swiss cheese once upon a time on this channel.

  • @hollyferay8131
    @hollyferay8131 19 днів тому +3

    Please tell me the veef slab is gluten free😮

    • @sarzootashoota351
      @sarzootashoota351 7 днів тому

      Chunk is made with water, cultured soy protein (defatted soy flour, soy protein isolate, gluten), coconut oil, natural flavors, beet juice concentrate color, iron, salt, vitamin B12.

  • @TUG657
    @TUG657 19 днів тому

    Wow! This is truly mind blowing! Congratulations!

  • @uncle_shoo
    @uncle_shoo 19 днів тому +1

    Great video!!! Looks absolutely delicious, where can I get that meat from.

  • @IvanRSaldias
    @IvanRSaldias 19 днів тому

    😢no overseas love😢

  • @micheleparadis2808
    @micheleparadis2808 19 днів тому

    Oh. my. deliciousness!

  • @MsSharondenadel
    @MsSharondenadel 2 дні тому

    Good effort, but i prefer the real one.

  • @peterweston6588
    @peterweston6588 14 днів тому

    What in the hell would you have to do to salt to make it non-vegan? Whatever it is, it would drive up costs. I can't imagine there is a premium market for adulterated salt.

  • @ViaAngeles-ve5uj
    @ViaAngeles-ve5uj 19 днів тому

    Good luck with the sauce!

  • @Peejay1966
    @Peejay1966 16 днів тому +2

    Oh man, that looks great. Get that over to Scotland... NOW!

  • @samuraikaoss1455
    @samuraikaoss1455 19 днів тому +1

    I grew up watching Mike Hammer. I started eating pastrami because of him. I want the vegan one.

  • @Britbabe53
    @Britbabe53 19 днів тому

    Kind of unaffordable tho :(

  • @TXRhody
    @TXRhody 19 днів тому +1

    That chunk steak looks great, but I don't trust companies that require me to sign up for spam and subscriptions before they show me their prices.

    • @dannimays7325
      @dannimays7325 19 днів тому +1

      also they're based in tel aviv ... not a good time to be giving those folks your information

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому

      @@dannimays7325why not?

  • @jkgmember
    @jkgmember 8 днів тому +1

    I ordered the Not Steak Sauce and it was Amazing! Highly Recommend!!! Also, Cant believe I won the giveaway! Going to be trying them out for 4th of July!

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  7 днів тому

      YESSS!!! Thank you so much for ordering and I am soooo stoked for you to try your steaks!!! Enjoy!!!

  • @KentHiday
    @KentHiday 18 днів тому +1

    Any chance you could try this with Juicy Marbles? At least we can all buy that.

  • @injunsun
    @injunsun 19 днів тому +1

    @SauceStache, @5:15 or so in, you said, "ground coriander or cumin." Those are SO not the same, so which did you mean? I found most of what you put into the marinade just nasty. I hate cinnamon and ginger and what-not in my savoury foods, which explains why I never liked brisket, I just never understood why it tasted so nasty. That's like everybody putting maple syrup in fake bacon recipes. Bacon isn't supposed to be sweet, and maple makes it nasty. I hate maple syrup touching anything savoury on my breakfast plate, especially eggs, when I ate eggs, because it ruined everything. Anyway, this fake meat looks amazing, but I will definitely not be trying this recipe.

    • @TigerGreene
      @TigerGreene 19 днів тому

      I also noticed that and was a bit confused. Coriander and cumin are very different flavors.

  • @fragendesauge9687
    @fragendesauge9687 13 днів тому +1

    Hope you will make your own Version. I hate it to see food i could never get here in europe

  • @taylregene
    @taylregene 19 днів тому +1

    I just want to be able to buy the chunk foods meat 😭whyyyy must you tempt us like this

  • @Niaaal
    @Niaaal 19 днів тому +1

    Make a video on how to replicate it please!

  • @KasuniSubasinghe
    @KasuniSubasinghe 3 дні тому

    You are amazing !! Keep it up:)

  • @hiso..4531
    @hiso..4531 16 днів тому

    YUMMMMMMM. I'm so jealous lol

  • @HarveyHirdHarmonics
    @HarveyHirdHarmonics 19 днів тому +8

    Why use curing salt? It's used to make meat to not spoil and I don't think it's needed for vegan meat. There's no decaying carcass here. Curing salt contains sodium nitrite which when heated creates carcinogenic nitrosamines. Which is probably one reason why processed meat is so bad for you, worse than processed vegan meat which usually never contains sodium nitrite.

    • @josephpotter5766
      @josephpotter5766 19 днів тому +4

      It's a detectable flavour element, in that the flavour of cured meats comes in part from the chemical interactions of the curing salt. So if you're replicating the flavour, you probably have to use the same salts. The very lack of nitrites is one reason why vegan substitutions are often deficient in their simulation of the original article. Good replication of meat lowers the bar to entry to the vegan lifestyle for former carnivores, which it ideal, since the objective is getting people off of meat. Even a nitrosamine rich vegan diet is omitting meat, and once someone is eating vegan and has ways of moderating the withdrawl from meat, they can then work on expanding their diet.

    • @MikeGuerrero
      @MikeGuerrero 19 днів тому

      This is what confuses me about some of Stache's videos. At times he treats meat analogues and substitutes as if they're the real thing. Part of the reason curing salt is used in cooking is to impart a reddish color when the nitrite interacts with the myoglobin in the meat... And unless I'm wildly mistaken, there shouldn't be any in that slab.

    • @tommj4365
      @tommj4365 18 днів тому

      He's probably just following a typical recipe to see how well it can be an easy substitute for everyone

  • @sebastianarielburd3119
    @sebastianarielburd3119 17 днів тому +1

    really? I expected to learn how to make vegan pastrami from scratch, not just learning how to cook it ? i didnt expect that

  • @jgduvenhage
    @jgduvenhage 17 днів тому

    just like in the wine and champagne business you should get sued for calling it 'meat'

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  17 днів тому +1

      hahahaha its wild how mad people get over the dumbest things.
      MEAT is defined as a few things. In the English language words can have multiple usages and different definitions. Are you telling me you are an adult and have never in your life heard someone calling something the "meat" of something? Like the "meat" of a grapefruit?
      If I was SELLING this, which I'm not and I was calling this pastrami on the label without any other defining wording then use it would be mislabeling and I agree with you, but its always super common to see this labeled as vegan meat, plant based meat, or soy or gluten meat, if you are too stupid to understand what that means thats your fault not mine.
      Grow up. You should get sued for being so easily triggered by a video

  • @bill2461
    @bill2461 9 днів тому

    You should of stated in title ,you cant buy it, I wouldn't have wasted time watching! Thumbs Down!

  • @F1nal12
    @F1nal12 18 днів тому

    eating a cow while watching this, 10/10 would recommend

  • @PonyCraft
    @PonyCraft 19 днів тому

    Vegans cope. Man, i like your food because i like vegetarian foods. But a lot of these dont taste or feel similar to the foods you try to replicate. I think your videos would do a lot better(And vegan foods in general) if you stopped trying to emulate meat.

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +9

      Yeah try this and come back and tell me how this doesn’t taste exactly like meat.
      Look it up, find a restaurant that sells this and prove me wrong
      Also I don’t care what you think would do better.
      I’m doing what I want and what I enjoy. 😉

    • @ericmalitz
      @ericmalitz 19 днів тому +1

      Bogus comment; apparently you haven’t tried much of what he does. Or you’re just playing ignorant.

  • @GarudaLegends
    @GarudaLegends 18 днів тому

    what the heck is that nosense? that is nothing close to pastrami. ROTF. gross

  • @Unmasking_Viandalisme
    @Unmasking_Viandalisme 19 днів тому

    Chunk steak: water, cultured soy protein (defatted soy flour, soy protein isolate, gluten), coconut oil, natural flavors, beet juice concentrate color, iron, salt, vitamin B12.
    Such ersatz emptiness may be appropriate during worwa3 but, until the shtf, I'll stick with rodding flesch, thanks. Atheists.🙄

  • @naturallydunn3325
    @naturallydunn3325 19 днів тому +1

    Team Youngstown 🙋🏽‍♀️
    East Side
    Ursuline High School c/o 88 🍀

  • @bretcrooks4207
    @bretcrooks4207 19 днів тому +5

    The only thing you forgot was the pickle spears on the sandwich

    • @SauceStache
      @SauceStache  19 днів тому +3

      Ugh I knoww!!!!

    • @bretcrooks4207
      @bretcrooks4207 19 днів тому

      @@SauceStache still that’s an amazing looking sandwich let’s hope they will start making their vegan steak available to anyone n everyone who wants to buy it as i think it would be a huge missed opportunity if they don’t. Been vegan 10 years and while lions mane mushrooms make a really good steak I’d love to try this n if it’s as good as you say it is which I’m not doubting you I’d want to be able to continually purchase it. I wish the very good butchers were still around as i think they had some of the best vegan meats