Who Was The REAL MVP Against Sukuna? | The Honored Ones Podcast Episode

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @xx-demon-akitsuha-xx
    @xx-demon-akitsuha-xx 3 місяці тому +50

    TIMESTAMPS
    01:17 - Superchats
    03:40 - Sakamoto Days 182 (part 1)
    06:54 - More superchats and Hakari slander (yay)
    16:30 - Sakamoto Days 182 (part 2)
    19:42 - Blue Lock 275 (Wasn't discussed last week due to no podcast that week)
    31:33 More superchats
    34:47 - Kagurabachi 49
    47:07 - Other Shonen Jump manga discussion
    52:34 - Honored Ones Book Club: Naruto 001-181 (Land of Waves, Chunin Exams, Konoha Crush, Search For Tsunade Discussion)
    2:19:06 - Jujutsu Kaisen 269

  • @AllOutGreatness
    @AllOutGreatness 3 місяці тому +4

    How can you watch kakashi copy another man’s random jutsu at the same time and finish it before him and think the glaze is undeserved 😭 kakashi is and always will be him

    • @unrecognizably
      @unrecognizably 2 місяці тому +1

      people act like kakashi wasn’t offing people left and right from other villages, people been knew kakashi was him

  • @atpr3241
    @atpr3241 3 місяці тому +32

    I fall in the camp of ppl who've been willing to overlook Gege's unorthodox writing choices because I believed he always had some grander story/message to tell. But tbh, I'm not mad about these chapters. I'm just sad at how disinterested I've become over the story being told. Like, If Gege doesn't wanna put effort into this finale, that's cool... I'm just vibing atp

    • @Wavedashnoir
      @Wavedashnoir 3 місяці тому +4

      How is he not putting effort? Lmaooo

    • @atpr3241
      @atpr3241 3 місяці тому +15

      @Wavedashnoir Because someone as talented as Gege has made better work than this. These chapters leave a lot to be desired but feel free to disagree.

    • @Wavedashnoir
      @Wavedashnoir 3 місяці тому +5

      @@atpr3241 hard disagree lmaoooo

    • @noahjackson5099
      @noahjackson5099 3 місяці тому +10

      @@atpr3241hard agreee

    • @bdagamingx7128
      @bdagamingx7128 3 місяці тому +8

      I honestly hear it but I'd rather judge his story on what is presented rather than my expectations because that's what his writing has accustomed me to

  • @kvngslatt_
    @kvngslatt_ 3 місяці тому +3

    Gojo is undoubtedly the mvp. they literally have ZERO chance if he didn’t fight sukuna first. even yuta himself says they would’ve been killed before they had a chance to use rct

  • @TheGreatKingChiba
    @TheGreatKingChiba 3 місяці тому +8

    Yuji is probably the easiest character to put the MVP tag on because he was definitely the one who spent the most combined time throwing hands with Sukuna.... but I think the sleeper pick is Ui Ui cause that dude saved multiple lives, setup multiple counterattacks and was the basis of the switch training that provided crucial powering up for the fight in the first place.
    Honorable mention to Maki for the hand removal that limited his actions for a ton of the fight and giving him a hole in his heart that he never really got to heal and was having to waste focus and energy dealing with or it would have killed him.

    • @CerotheDemon
      @CerotheDemon 3 місяці тому +1

      Hand and heart removal at that! She did her job

    • @zirotsero6951
      @zirotsero6951 3 місяці тому

      Idk man, gojo was such an mvp that he literally fought while he died

  • @KyngD469
    @KyngD469 3 місяці тому +3

    Gege could have at least drew Rika using RCT on Yuta when he got cut in half, when he was on the operating table, when she was holding him. But no, we just get a sentence about her knowing how to use it I guess...
    Despite being a Cursed Spirit/ Shikigami I guess? How are we just now finding out Yuta's already busted bag of hacks has 2 RCT pools in it. 3 chapters left btw.
    Disney Kaisen tbh.
    Higoruma's death. something something curses get stronger after death? Went no where.
    Boogie Woogie wont work on Maki because no cursed energy. Immediately uses Boogie Woogie on Maki despite no Cursed energy.
    Is it because she was touching Miwa? Since when does that work, did Miwa imbue Maki with CE during furnace?
    Unlimited Void made Megumi hazy, where do we even start with that? Did it affect his brain or Sukuna's brain? Did it hit his soul? So Sukuna can just redirect AOE invisible data dump attacks to a person's soul? If it hit his soul and not his brain, why is he hazy?
    Wasn't he lucid when he spoke to Yuji 3 different times during the fight post 15 minutes worth of Unlimited void.
    The amount of writing the audience has to fill in for Gege is unsatisfactory. Too many what-if theories to even make it interesting, we're finishing the group project at this point tbh.
    It was just crash outs and poor explanations.

    • @domino3861
      @domino3861 3 місяці тому +1

      We already knew Shikigami can use RCT (Mahoraga and Round deer can output it) so current Rika using it isn’t a stretch. Although I do think it should’ve been shown a bit sooner.
      Higuruma’s technique not getting stronger after he “died” and instead just disappearing was probably a way of showing us that he wasn’t actually dead.
      Miwa says she was worried that Todo’s technique might just work on her and might not register Maki so her imbuing CE into Maki who was holding onto her is the logical conclusion since we’ve seen Todo imbue inanimate objects with CE to use Boogie woogie on them before.
      I’ll give you the unlimited void point. Although I doubt he took a full 15 minutes worth of unlimited void since Sukuna was physically fighting Gojo inside the domain meaning he was using amplification and that means Mahoraga’s wheel wouldn’t have been active. He might’ve just exposed Megumi’s soul to Unlimited Void for split seconds every domain clash time before switching back to amplification and continuing to fight Gojo.

    • @CerotheDemon
      @CerotheDemon 3 місяці тому

      Rika is a Shikigami, she’s literally described as a “guardian spirit”, guess what Shikigami means lmao
      Secondly, ITS STATED ON PANEL IT HIT HIS SOUL. Bro has a clear case of CTE. We see it hit both Sukuna AND Megumi. Also SUKUNA FUCKING PUT THE BURDEN OF ADAPTATION ON MEGUMI using Mahoraga’s wheel.

    • @mrprotoman154
      @mrprotoman154 3 місяці тому

      My interpretation was Rika learned to use RCT on the spot. In a similar fashion to Yuta in vol 0.

    • @KyngD469
      @KyngD469 3 місяці тому

      @@CerotheDemon 1st guardian spirit in the history of the manga ever. in some throw away line nobody remembers, nor does it indicate anywhere guardian spirits can copy CT, use RCT or how they come about.
      Get off Gege's lap gang. he doesn't like you like that fr.
      Lastly, fair enough. It did hit Megumi's soul.
      So how did Sukuna choose which soul to shift an entire domain expansion to? I know at the time nobody really cared. I guess the King of curses is smart like that, and that's fine. Honestly.
      But how does hitting the soul make someone hazy. Like does that mean if Yuji hit's you with a soul cleave, you geta paper cut? Its inconsistent.
      Does Jogo's volcano hitting your soul give you a little sunburn?

    • @leonglitch
      @leonglitch 3 місяці тому

      ​@@KyngD469 He didn't shift the domains target to megumi's soul he head megumi's adapt to it.

  • @theSageofFire
    @theSageofFire 3 місяці тому

    We need the Naruto section to be twice to three times as long!! It was so good

  • @user_miike
    @user_miike 3 місяці тому +7

    naruto section was fun as fuck. i hope kreams reads tokyo ghoul at some point

  • @notimportant0000
    @notimportant0000 3 місяці тому +9

    The training timeskip was the worst thing Gege has ever done. A lot of this shit could've and should've been addressed back then in an actual mini arc instead of doing it all through flashbacks and exposition.

    • @Wavedashnoir
      @Wavedashnoir 3 місяці тому

      @@notimportant0000 nah

    • @bekimmehmedi2905
      @bekimmehmedi2905 3 місяці тому +1

      100% disagree on that

    • @zefem
      @zefem 3 місяці тому

      Yeo no other manga would get away with that bullshit and look at where we are now. Lmao. They just on denial

  • @TheOneAndOnly.X
    @TheOneAndOnly.X 3 місяці тому

    It would be funny if the last chapter went like this. The culling games end once all players die and we get a cut 80 years later to see the last member of the culling games die naturally yuuji which leads to the merger. I know this is impossible and highly unlikely but it would be a funny end

  • @maxmustermann9058
    @maxmustermann9058 3 місяці тому +3

    Orochimaru had planned to use Gaara for sure, but 90% of his plan was just him, the edo 1rst and 2nd Hokage, plus Manda steamrolling through the bulk of the village. He can stomp Kakashi-level guys and aside from Jiraiya whom he had not expected to be there, the biggest threats would be the likes of Ino-Shika-Cho or Kakashi/Guy. Not a unwinnable situation and even if Konoha still wins if it is too weakened it would just get annexed by other nations.

  • @koolblu92
    @koolblu92 3 місяці тому

    What if yuta really dead and we find out even kenny is surprised that he survived (nobody ever ate his brain before) he takes over yuta body then boom kenny CT is revealed

  • @R89iv
    @R89iv 3 місяці тому +7

    Konaha Kreams & Reiatsu Ronin.

  • @Nyota0677
    @Nyota0677 3 місяці тому

    This should be an interesting one and also can't wait for the nauto section.

  • @cooldude427
    @cooldude427 3 місяці тому +1

    Let's hope mappa takes some liberties to make this last ark better

  • @SasukeUchiha-vb2vy
    @SasukeUchiha-vb2vy 3 місяці тому

    Disney Kaisen

  • @zirotsero6951
    @zirotsero6951 3 місяці тому

    Gojo coming back in jjk2 would break the internet harder than ever before, and obliterate it even further if he got a power up. it’s the only context I’m on for Gojo returning

  • @CertainlyCynical
    @CertainlyCynical 3 місяці тому +17

    Disney kaisen just isn't for me

    • @SoulofFinality
      @SoulofFinality 3 місяці тому +2

      Same man

    • @jaystargamelover8785
      @jaystargamelover8785 3 місяці тому +16

      Why do people just say Disney kaisen how is that a criticism it just seems like some meat head thing you would see on Twitter

    • @UltimatePower01
      @UltimatePower01 3 місяці тому +1

      @@jaystargamelover8785it’s twitter and tiktok brainrot, it’s easy to just ignore it

    • @Wavedashnoir
      @Wavedashnoir 3 місяці тому +2

      You didn't read the manga so that's ok

    • @ice1638
      @ice1638 3 місяці тому

      ​@@jaystargamelover8785probably yuuta and higuruma just out of nowhere got resurected

  • @CerotheDemon
    @CerotheDemon 3 місяці тому +1

    Tbf to Hakari….most people would’ve gotten one-shotted by Uraume but I don’t think we ready for that conversation.(not Uraume, they just have a broken ass technique)

  • @robcarlton2341
    @robcarlton2341 3 місяці тому

    Two-Jutsu Kaisen otw i think

  • @ElbowStrikesSn
    @ElbowStrikesSn 3 місяці тому

    But without Hakari, Maki and others would've been frozen like she did in the culling game.

    • @CerotheDemon
      @CerotheDemon 3 місяці тому

      Ehhh but we know Maki could break out of it quicker than everyone else. Secondly they caught Maki and Yuji off guard and it took MAXIMUM OUTPUT to freeze Maki alone

    • @Zelldic27
      @Zelldic27 3 місяці тому

      ​@@CerotheDemon bro is Sukuna, getting frozen for even like 0.5 seconds still really bad.

  • @Ace-qx3mb
    @Ace-qx3mb 3 місяці тому

    I just want Gojo back man

  • @IsraelWokoh
    @IsraelWokoh 3 місяці тому

    Ui Ui, closely followed by Maki. Easy.