Just got it today, and gotta say, i'm super satisfied with my choice. It was so easy and comforty to play with it, and i've never even touched a 7 or 8 string before in my life, just two hours of random practicing and i got the handle of it. I JUST LOVED THE GUITAR, I RECCOMAND IT TO EVERYBODY!!!!!
I did some research the Legator falls on it's Ass bad but it was a 7 string reveiw and the dude fogged it bad. He said he has the potential when you have to put all kinds of money and adjustments to it brand new. He had to shim neck, Adjust rods, do an Intunation, and Something else. He said he was really disappointed on the Legator for the price. He said way over priced for the adjustments and tweaks. Agile pretty much same but he said for price and some tweaks he said he was able to turn it into a solid ax. The Jackson and Ibanez were the best and he said Ibanez had the least amount of tweaks to it brand new. He said the Jackson was little ruff at first but when he dialed it in he said it was a beast. This was same dude on all reveiws with focus on 1guitar per video. Pretty Much the Ibanez and Jackson was the best out of those 4. I didn't see him do schecktor I think. I know on different video between Ibanez and Schecktor. He said he like the Ibanez wizard necks better but like the rhythm tone on Schecktor more. I have been watching them alot cause my next ax is 8 string multi scale and I was pumped about the Legator but it's was getting dogged. To their Defense I haven't seen the Legator 8 string ghost multi scale reveiw I am interested in. They could of worked the bugs out like I said it was a 7 string multi scale Legator and It was a review from about year and half ago. I want to see what Ola's Solar 8 string us like as well. It seems solid and has an Everytime bridge with locking machine heads as well. Plus it looks like a Beasty AX. I've been pretty much IBANEZ, ESP, JACKSON , my top 3 but want to check out Solar and Legator for myself. I am biased towards the Ibanez wizard necks plus they are coming out with those new active pickups in them that sound kick-ass. I am sure I'll be getting an IBANEZ when it's all said and done. It's to sketchy for me to order a Legator for that money and all the shit dude had to put into it just to get it going right. Well hope that helped you lil bub. I've been doing my research on the 8 strings and take it for what it's worth I'm little Ibanez biased due to wizard necks.
Brilliant, strong review! Have been tossing up between waiting to see what Neko's headless fanned 8 will end up like or getting one of these; you've sold me!
You're amazing man, extreme diverse skills, and entirely logical descriptions of everything to do with guitar! Nice one. I think I want to buy that guitar.
I actually really appreciated your jazz demo section! Thanks!
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Very nice review, thanks! I really think that's the way to go, fanned frets, its the most logical evolution. Im just curious about how it actually feels in the hand, and doing trickier chord positions, or even simple power chords in the top. And of course you can play jazz with this! Hear that tone at 10:30, just nice and warm. I had an emg 808 loaded guitar and played lots of bossa nova and jazzy stuff, very detailed and warm with lots of presence. Actually i kind of miss that big sound of the 808's, i have now the Sentient and Pegasus pups, and although i really love them for their versatility and more classic "paf-like" tone, i kind of miss the 808's tone and power sometimes. The dynamics of passives really brings more versatile, "feeling" and classic "hazyness", but still one can get great clean tone out of active or "metal orientated" pickups. I mean, if Mike Stern or Bill Frisell play jazz with a Telecaster and Allan Holdsworth with only a bridge pickup... With what guitar can you not play jazz and get an interesting tone? Would be fun to see some great jazz guitarist playing a pointy metal basswood 8 string guitar with the hottest bridge active pickup available and really nailing some jazzy goodness.
Regarding the complaint about the nut height: Manufacturers usually make the hight to be a little higher than necessary so that it can be adjusted to the user's taste without swapping it
This is the first video of yours I have ever scene. I love your review especially since it isn't biased at all. One question though; do you do reviews of basses as well or no?
@ForViewingOnly My Tipp: Get one and let a local Luthier put in Fretmarkers like on a Strandberg Boden. They are the best for seeing where you are. Shouldn't cost a lot. Planning on doing that on mine too.
I truly appreciate your well thought out review and opinions. Many channels could learn a great deal from this video. I also would like to compliment you on using an 8 string instrument from the top to the bottom strings. Tasty licks, runs and chords. Consider me subscribed :)
+German Guitarguy would you recommend this guitar over a traditional seven strings iron label rg? because I really want one, but with the normal fretboard.
The best review of this guitar so far, thank you. What do you think of the fan - 12th fret perpendicular is a bit strange layout for a FF I think. How is the playability towards the headstock?
Do you think the price is a bit much, considering that it is made in Indonesia and other Iron Series guitars are considerably cheaper? I love the idea, REALLY would like to own a fanned fret 8, but I just don't know if its worth it.
+Bernd Kiltz I was hoping you would say that its not worth it, now I have to wait for them to release this bastard. Also, what do you think about the idea of putting the straight fret as the 12th, instead of, say, the 7th or the 5th? Doesn't this hinder your playing at the end of the fretboard, like reaching the first fret of the F# string?
"EMGs which are not that liked by the community" Actually, the EMG X pickups are being incredibly well-received, in my experience, especially compared to the regular EMG pickups. From your demo, I can say they sound incredible. I installed a Seymour Duncan Nazgul in my plain-jane RG8 and I wish it sounded this tight!
This is a great review. Very professional, very comprehensive, very well spoken and organized. I have wanted to buy this guitar for some time now and this review only furthers my interest in purchasing it. Thank you. If I was an instrument manufacturer, I would want you to demo my products. Awesome!
Excellent review! Also, it is very possible to set up a coil split with active pickups. I'm surprised Ibanez did not build this guitar with a five-way pickup selector to have those single coil options.
Great review Bernd, thanks for sharing! I'm curious if you still own and like the Tam10 you did a review for earlier, despite your preference for fanned frets on the 8 sting guitars?
Hello. Can it tweak to sound like Classical Nylon string ? I mean, want to play Bach in real key. And I mean without the Axefx2. So is the clean sound pleasant ? I like concept of guitar (fanned frets) never played this kind of. It seems easier to play at first position or... ?
so I am really on the fence between the 7 string version of this and the rgdix. I generally prefer passive pickups and the bevels, cut and finish on the rgdix are all beautiful. that being said, it's not fanned fret. I unfortunately don't have the ability to go play a fanned fret and never have before so I'm wondering, in terms of ease of playability, is there a noticeable difference? I like the look and sound of both guitars but it's really coming down to the fanned frets and what matters most to me is playability and longevity since I want this to be my main rig for a while. I've heard that this has nickel frets which tend to wear out quicker with heavier gauge strings. thoughts?? thank you for the excellent review and playing btw!!
fanned frets have a little adjustment period (like half an hour) but it's generally agreed that fanned frets are more comfortable than traditional frets. A guitarist in a band I played with had an agile 8 string and it was the best guitar I've ever had the chance to play
+Dylan Simon I actually got the rgif7 and I love it! playing it now haha. but yes it's very comfortable and the only thing that really threw me off was looking at the first couple of frets while playing but now it's a breeze! bars are a liiiitle bit harder on the lower part of the neck but it's nothing impossible, overall I love it!
+Colin Myers ughhhh I've looked at that so many times lol but I'm trying to move to Vegas from a small town and I'm super worried about cash x.x I think yes though yoy convinced me lol. one question though. Does it djent? O.o
I bet you could get Jazz tone if you used flat wound strings and did the 18 volt or 24 volt mod, that adds a lot of warmth and mids to the sound of most active pickups.
I would like so see some different Pickups in there, something like the DiMarzio Ionizers or something comparable. I wonder if clean stuff like Animals as Leaders used to play a lot would sound great on that guitar?
is the 27 scale length enough for the lower string on a standard tuning to sound clear and not muffled like a bass? i've tried some 8 string guitars at local shops and the 8th string is too floppy or has little to no definition( note clarity) for a standard guage string set. I saw a 30 scale length one with good lower string note clarity but have yet to find a fanned version.
Wouldn't 30" to 25.5" fanning be way too radical? Agile has (or maybe had) a model with a 30" scale length, but with regular frets. The higher strings would probably be a pain.
Really good video! I would like to ask you about pickups. Are those pickups any special in comparison to pickups on normal scale guitars? Is this "slanting" position important in some reason or is it just about how it looks? Thank you very much!
+Jiri Masin These are the EMG 909 X series, which has a different preamp than a traditional EMG 81/85/707, etc. design. They use a longer pickup(these are 9 string pickups) because at that angle the 8 string design might come up a little short. IMO these are outstanding pickups and I wouldn't bother spending the money to put passives in(especially overpriced Bareknuckles) these do a good job of finding the middle ground between the passive and active sound. Now only if Ibanez would get their head out of their ass and make sure any guitar they offer above let's say, 700$ came with locking tuners stock....
I'm going to have one of those to go with my SRFF806, but I want the flat walnut finish. I saw one somewhere. Brilliant demo dude. I however wouldn't place any limitations on the style of music that axe can handle.
Lovely looking guitar and very good playing! Is going up to 8 strings from a 6 string a massive step? I'm considering a new electric guitar in a couple of months but I wonder if a 7 string is a more sensible step? You can see my playstyle in my videos. Thanks in advance.
you mentioned Tosin Abasi Signature TAM100 which is my dream guitar but way out of my price range. Can you tell me more how these 2 compare? Also- is it possible to swap pickups for example for Ionizers in this guitar or they won'f fit? It looks like classic 8-string pickup tilted
+Tomasz Gutka They are 9-string pickups, that's the case with all 8 string fanned fret guitars I've seen as far as I know. Kind of unfortunate since there's not as many aftermarket options out there just yet, but by the time I get a fanned fret 9 string guitar and have the money for new pickups, hopefully there will be some from Lundgren and/or Bare Knuckle(which BK does/did have the Canines which were 9 string pickups). I think he said TAM10 which is the much less expensive model, still spendy though. I really wanna get the Agile Pendulum Pro 92528, it's a fanned fret 9 string but uses 9 string pickups too, figure if I must get fanned fret and at least 8 string, may as well go 9 since they both use 9 string pickups lol(quarter inch wider neck though). And the Agile 9 string doesn't use EMG's, the passive Cepheus 10/11 bar pickups are probably better, they're $160 each where other Cepheus pickups are $80-100 and even those are on par with the EMG's. I'm thinking I'll tune it like an 8 string with a string higher actually, would be pretty amazing for djent and shred lol. Oh almost forgot, was also going to mention have you seen the GNG Shen or the Skervesen SkerveTEN? Multi-scale 10 strings, kind of extreme lol, but while the scale range of the SkerveTEN is 27" - 31" which would be great for 4 low strings, it's a bit much for me. The GNG Shen is 22.5" - 29.5" which would be amazing for tuning 2 lower and 2 higher strings, I think that's my ultimate dream guitar. The SkerveTEN is absolutely beautiful though, definitely looks better.
+Tomasz Gutka Oh, I think there is a way you could install 8 string pickups on it though with a modification, but the poles wouldn't quite line up right. Might still work okay though, something from Lundgren or Bare Knuckle even with poles not quite lining up right would probably still be better than the EMG 909's, I kinda doubt poles on the 9 string pickups line up right either but I guess maybe EMG's aren't designed with poles. The Agile Cepheus 10/11 pickups don't have poles though and would work as another option(not 100% sure dimensions are the same), it's hard to find anything about how they sound though but would probably be an upgrade over the EMG's. Depends some on taste and musical style though of course. www.rondomusic.com/cepheuspassive10stg.html
This has been on my wish list for a long time! One question: I have a RG8 and addition to have to change pickups and rewire i had to shim the neck. Do you see any need for that on this one? I know that the RG8 is a real cheap guitar but i was surprised how bad it needed it.
If the Kiesel FFs are also running from 800+ it will be a hard choice. And I wonder if, with the amount of budget fanns coming out, Bare Knuckle Pus will release some 9 String sized market models, considering 8 Strings wont fit neither in this nor (probably) the Kiesel and other affordable version (if thats what one wants to call Carvin / Kiesel)
+Matthias Ahlswede BK do offer 9 string pups, but with only one voicing specific to the 9 string guitar thus far! I'm in the process of ordering a custom Lefty angled pup from them :)
+Matthias Ahlswede Bareknuckles does slanted pickups that fit any fan you have on a guitar. The problem is they are expensive. People complain that these "budget", or mass-produced, multiscale guitars have EMGs when EMGs are literally the cheapest option to keep costs as low as possible. They have a bar magnet already, so slanting them makes it no issue for multiscales. Having to make custom slanted pickups that fit the fan of every single guitar that they produce is not cost effective.
I think I agree, seems like it would make it have a much better more balanced tone. Plus this guitar is much sexier than the 2228. Not sure if you do, but would you happen to know how much it migt cost to have a trem system installed on this if I got it?
the RGIF8 is a slightly better than the RG2228, I mean the Prestige series u got the Team J building unique style, that's awesome, but the RGIF8 came with EMG909X pickup, n for Extended-Range, the multiscale system is just gorgeous. I would suggest to u, if u buy the Rgif8, to acquire that Kahler 7228 bridge, so u have more creative possibilities with the "multiscale tremolo"
I would love this guitar but I want a guitar to this exact spec accept I want the cut away beveled out so to get my big hands further up the neck for lead any suggestions?
Great videos man! Do you think the low notes would be as defined as a M80M? I want a guitar I can tune in a drop F# tuning on an 8 string meaning my highest string would also be F# so wonder if this is a better option as they are similarly priced guitars. Also it's active vs passive pickups so debating which to get...
I'm getting the RGIF8 at the end of the month. Will wait until there are more 9 string pups on the market to switch out the bridge EMG when the time comes.
Congrats! Ordering it on Friday :D Due to the fan and the way it is slanted you need a larger pickup to ensure the pickups cover all the strings. So it has to be a larger 9 string pickup. They are EMG's 909x. I think it's made in Indonesia.
Great review, thanks for sharing. I played a few Ibanez 8 strings and was going to buy one. I just didn't like the active pickups or the action on them (too much string buzz - maybe the guitars weren't set up properly) so ended up buying a Schecter Omen 8 and love it. The only thing I don't like about the Schecter Omen 8 is that you can't use heavier gauge strings than what it comes with (they just won't go through the tuning key). I'm not sure about Ibanez though...
+CarnivorousRoach Considering the broad neck I would even say it is relatively lite - I don't think you can build an 8-String much liter. Exept Strandberg Boden 8 of course... I would say it is a little over 3 kilos.
+TheKris7string Depends entirely on what you play. If you play much clean stuff, get the tam 10. If you tune down the low string a lot and mostly play heavy riffs, get the RGIF8.
Bernd: The 10:30 mark is what "makes the point". Every single 8 string and 10 string guitar demo film up on You Tube is by someone who plays heavily distorted "metal" (music ?) and plays from the low string to the high string and it is always the same note. There is not a single change of pitch in their distorted sound. The 10:30 mark PROVES the point that a dark smooth, jazz guitar sound can be acquired from this excellent and inexpensive instrument...by simply turning down the volume VERY low, turning the tone knobs down, possible turning off the bridge pick up, for only a neck pick jazz guitar sound and......most importantly using 10 or 11 gauge flat wound strings. And after all of the above, all we need to do is use a Boss GT - 001 Effects Processor and get that very, very soft, smooth jazz guitar sound like Johnny Smith and Joe Pass. :) Is all of the above....correct ? Thank you very much for proving a nice sound can come out of tis guitar. :). Antoine
Hey, can anyone tell me what pickups are there? Are those one's the emg 808x or 909x? The official ibanez site says that "EMG808X and EMG909X pickups fit the bill perfectly-not only in size, but also in sound". I am looking forward to buy a cheaper version the ibanez rgms8, and want to change pickups as soon as i buy it, but dont know for which size i should look for. Since it's multiscale, the 909X might fit better, cause of the angle, but still i dont know for sure, can i buy, for example, a standard seymour duncan blackouts, the 8 string version, and will they fit it well, or they gonna be too small
Hey nice vid man. I was very pleasantly surprised to see Ibanez Put the EMG X series pickups in this! Nice guitar, really dumb they didn't include locking tuners on this stock though
Great review! I would buy one of these if it had fret markers. I've had guitars without fret markers and I'm more likely to make a mistake if I'm quickly jumping from one end of the fretboard to the other on a dark stage. Hopefully Ibanez will sort this out in 2017 with a prestige model... nothing fancy at the 12th fret please Ibanez... maybe similar markers to the SRFF805 bass.
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25.5 - 27 inch :( ... i wished for 27-30inch that way it would be perfect ... like a middleway between the meshuggah 8 string and the normal ones ...
Thanks for the review, I have a Schecter Damien Platinum 8, I do enjoy playing it, but I have to be honest it can be hard to play. I been looking at the RGSM8 and this video has pushed me over the edge. Thank you!
Through a compressor and an eq in the mix and you could play awesome jazz on that guitar. I love that guitar it looks amazing with the open grain ash body, I think an ebony fingerboard would look great on it as well. Nice video.
sehr geile gitarre!! ich finde die fanned frets auch sehr sinnvoll und neben dieser super gitarre (die ich mir noch nicht leisten kann) steht auch noch der srff806 bass im raum, den ich einfach unbedingt mal testen möchte. beides zwar noch etwas außerhalb meiner finanziellen mittel, aber das sollte sich in naher zukunft ändern und dann sind das die beiden instrumente, die ich auf jeden fall als erstes testen möchte. tolles reviewvideo auf jeden fall
You can split EMGs, the Schecter Hellraiser series always offers that option! Schöne Review! Wenn Ibanez da jetzt noch einen ihrer verbesserten Floyd Roses dran gebaut hätten (ZR / Edge Zero), würde ich wahrscheinlich sofort zuschlagen. So aber schwanke ich noch zwischen der Hellraiser C-8 mit Floyd Rose oder eben der RG-8... 😕
You talk about how the guitar with these particular PUs wouldn't be suitable for certain styles of music. You also got the guitar in your hands just in front of you. Why don't you demonstrate it? That would make a lot of sense in a guitar review.
He's so calm, and then he plays brutal metal... I love it
Germans for ya hahaha
lol that’s heavy metal at most
Just got it today, and gotta say, i'm super satisfied with my choice. It was so easy and comforty to play with it, and i've never even touched a 7 or 8 string before in my life, just two hours of random practicing and i got the handle of it. I JUST LOVED THE GUITAR, I RECCOMAND IT TO EVERYBODY!!!!!
May the force be strong with you, young Skywalker, always!
You know what would be great? A fanned frets guitars comparison. Like, Agile, Legator, Jackson, and this one.
I did some research the Legator falls on it's Ass bad but it was a 7 string reveiw and the dude fogged it bad. He said he has the potential when you have to put all kinds of money and adjustments to it brand new. He had to shim neck, Adjust rods, do an Intunation, and Something else. He said he was really disappointed on the Legator for the price. He said way over priced for the adjustments and tweaks. Agile pretty much same but he said for price and some tweaks he said he was able to turn it into a solid ax. The Jackson and Ibanez were the best and he said Ibanez had the least amount of tweaks to it brand new. He said the Jackson was little ruff at first but when he dialed it in he said it was a beast. This was same dude on all reveiws with focus on 1guitar per video. Pretty Much the Ibanez and Jackson was the best out of those 4. I didn't see him do schecktor I think. I know on different video between Ibanez and Schecktor. He said he like the Ibanez wizard necks better but like the rhythm tone on Schecktor more. I have been watching them alot cause my next ax is 8 string multi scale and I was pumped about the Legator but it's was getting dogged. To their Defense I haven't seen the Legator 8 string ghost multi scale reveiw I am interested in. They could of worked the bugs out like I said it was a 7 string multi scale Legator and It was a review from about year and half ago. I want to see what Ola's Solar 8 string us like as well. It seems solid and has an Everytime bridge with locking machine heads as well. Plus it looks like a Beasty AX. I've been pretty much IBANEZ, ESP, JACKSON , my top 3 but want to check out Solar and Legator for myself. I am biased towards the Ibanez wizard necks plus they are coming out with those new active pickups in them that sound kick-ass. I am sure I'll be getting an IBANEZ when it's all said and done. It's to sketchy for me to order a Legator for that money and all the shit dude had to put into it just to get it going right. Well hope that helped you lil bub. I've been doing my research on the 8 strings and take it for what it's worth I'm little Ibanez biased due to wizard necks.
This guy looks like Luke Skywalker!
+keaulana1 Thank you. But are you sure I am not Kylo Ren?
I was actually thinking Jeremy Renner
thank you, that is a compliment :-)
And he has his fanned fret lightsaber!
He even says that you have to "use a lot of force" in the video.
EMG's were originally made for jazz, but were adopted by metal players. the pick-ups are still the same so they're good for both. not just metal
Metal formed from the blues jazz area. Back Sabbath the band that made metal possible use to be a blues band called Earth.
Brilliant, strong review! Have been tossing up between waiting to see what Neko's headless fanned 8 will end up like or getting one of these; you've sold me!
You're amazing man, extreme diverse skills, and entirely logical descriptions of everything to do with guitar! Nice one. I think I want to buy that guitar.
Excellent review. The perfect combination of playing and informative conversation.
I actually really appreciated your jazz demo section! Thanks!
Very nice review, thanks! I really think that's the way to go, fanned frets, its the most logical evolution. Im just curious about how it actually feels in the hand, and doing trickier chord positions, or even simple power chords in the top. And of course you can play jazz with this! Hear that tone at 10:30, just nice and warm. I had an emg 808 loaded guitar and played lots of bossa nova and jazzy stuff, very detailed and warm with lots of presence. Actually i kind of miss that big sound of the 808's, i have now the Sentient and Pegasus pups, and although i really love them for their versatility and more classic "paf-like" tone, i kind of miss the 808's tone and power sometimes. The dynamics of passives really brings more versatile, "feeling" and classic "hazyness", but still one can get great clean tone out of active or "metal orientated" pickups. I mean, if Mike Stern or Bill Frisell play jazz with a Telecaster and Allan Holdsworth with only a bridge pickup... With what guitar can you not play jazz and get an interesting tone? Would be fun to see some great jazz guitarist playing a pointy metal basswood 8 string guitar with the hottest bridge active pickup available and really nailing some jazzy goodness.
Excellent review...thank you.
Regarding the complaint about the nut height: Manufacturers usually make the hight to be a little higher than necessary so that it can be adjusted to the user's taste without swapping it
Mark Hamill?
This is the first video of yours I have ever scene. I love your review especially since it isn't biased at all. One question though; do you do reviews of basses as well or no?
+Adam M Maybe I'll do one for the IBZ fanned fret bass. But i am a guitar player. so dont expect expert talk here ;)
@ForViewingOnly My Tipp: Get one and let a local Luthier put in Fretmarkers like on a Strandberg Boden. They are the best for seeing where you are. Shouldn't cost a lot. Planning on doing that on mine too.
7:26 - Phrygian Dominant scale?
This review really shows how the scale length changes the tone of each string, definitely opens doors for more expression.
I truly appreciate your well thought out review and opinions. Many channels could learn a great deal from this video. I also would like to compliment you on using an 8 string instrument from the top to the bottom strings. Tasty licks, runs and chords. Consider me subscribed :)
Would love to see more reviews and demos from you
Excellent review! Ordered the guitar yesterday. So siked!
Very nice review! thank you
+German Guitarguy would you recommend this guitar over a traditional seven strings iron label rg? because I really want one, but with the normal fretboard.
+markart157 RGIT27
+markart157 yes
Your reviews are awesome man, super useful.
los trastes están para abajo eso no molesta al tocar cierto?
Hi man great demo! Do you now if the guitart would work fine stringed with a higher string instead of the lower one?
Hallo Hans! When will u put hier another fantastisch video?
The best review of this guitar so far, thank you. What do you think of the fan - 12th fret perpendicular is a bit strange layout for a FF I think. How is the playability towards the headstock?
Do you think the price is a bit much, considering that it is made in Indonesia and other Iron Series guitars are considerably cheaper? I love the idea, REALLY would like to own a fanned fret 8, but I just don't know if its worth it.
+shatalg It is totally worth it - where do you get a fanned fret 8-string for that price??
+Bernd Kiltz I was hoping you would say that its not worth it, now I have to wait for them to release this bastard. Also, what do you think about the idea of putting the straight fret as the 12th, instead of, say, the 7th or the 5th? Doesn't this hinder your playing at the end of the fretboard, like reaching the first fret of the F# string?
+shatalg Get in on the Ormsby GTR production runs - the HypeGTR 8 strings are about $1700 AUD I think.
+Bernd Kiltz agile, got my ten string multi scale for 899
excellent review. and great playing skills. are you a recording artist?
+John Reardon I am in the process of recording a solo album right now... but I am a perfectionist, so it will take some more time :) Thank you :)
"EMGs which are not that liked by the community"
Actually, the EMG X pickups are being incredibly well-received, in my experience, especially compared to the regular EMG pickups. From your demo, I can say they sound incredible. I installed a Seymour Duncan Nazgul in my plain-jane RG8 and I wish it sounded this tight!
I have only one question.. Where can I get one of these?
This is a great review. Very professional, very comprehensive, very well spoken and organized. I have wanted to buy this guitar for some time now and this review only furthers my interest in purchasing it. Thank you. If I was an instrument manufacturer, I would want you to demo my products. Awesome!
what´s the scale you used for jazz please
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Excellent review! Also, it is very possible to set up a coil split with active pickups. I'm surprised Ibanez did not build this guitar with a five-way pickup selector to have those single coil options.
+Thomas „Skippy“ Ryan Yeah, that would be great, maybe on the next model.
Do you still have this guitar or have you sold it?
What do you think about Ibanez RGIM8? It have different body wood and slightly different pickups. Did you have it in your hands maybe?
siggi braun in the background? great guitars! I played one at guitar candy, it played and sounded wonderful
Great review Bernd, thanks for sharing! I'm curious if you still own and like the Tam10 you did a review for earlier, despite your preference for fanned frets on the 8 sting guitars?
How does this model stack up against the TAM10?
Hello. Can it tweak to sound like Classical Nylon string ? I mean, want to play Bach in real key. And I mean without the Axefx2.
So is the clean sound pleasant ? I like concept of guitar (fanned frets) never played this kind of. It seems easier to play at first position or... ?
so I am really on the fence between the 7 string version of this and the rgdix. I generally prefer passive pickups and the bevels, cut and finish on the rgdix are all beautiful. that being said, it's not fanned fret. I unfortunately don't have the ability to go play a fanned fret and never have before so I'm wondering, in terms of ease of playability, is there a noticeable difference? I like the look and sound of both guitars but it's really coming down to the fanned frets and what matters most to me is playability and longevity since I want this to be my main rig for a while. I've heard that this has nickel frets which tend to wear out quicker with heavier gauge strings. thoughts?? thank you for the excellent review and playing btw!!
fanned frets have a little adjustment period (like half an hour) but it's generally agreed that fanned frets are more comfortable than traditional frets. A guitarist in a band I played with had an agile 8 string and it was the best guitar I've ever had the chance to play
+Dylan Simon I actually got the rgif7 and I love it! playing it now haha. but yes it's very comfortable and the only thing that really threw me off was looking at the first couple of frets while playing but now it's a breeze! bars are a liiiitle bit harder on the lower part of the neck but it's nothing impossible, overall I love it!
I'm infinitely jealous :p I wanna play some old 7 string intervals
+Dylan Simon check out zzsounds.com man! I'm paying $80 a month for mine and they ship it to you after your first payment, really awesome company!
+Colin Myers ughhhh I've looked at that so many times lol but I'm trying to move to Vegas from a small town and I'm super worried about cash x.x I think yes though yoy convinced me lol. one question though. Does it djent? O.o
I bet you could get Jazz tone if you used flat wound strings and did the 18 volt or 24 volt mod, that adds a lot of warmth and mids to the sound of most active pickups.
I would like so see some different Pickups in there, something like the DiMarzio Ionizers or something comparable. I wonder if clean stuff like Animals as Leaders used to play a lot would sound great on that guitar?
is the 27 scale length enough for the lower string on a standard tuning to sound clear and not muffled like a bass? i've tried some 8 string guitars at local shops and the 8th string is too floppy or has little to no definition( note clarity) for a standard guage string set. I saw a 30 scale length one with good lower string note clarity but have yet to find a fanned version.
Wouldn't 30" to 25.5" fanning be way too radical?
Agile has (or maybe had) a model with a 30" scale length, but with regular frets. The higher strings would probably be a pain.
Really good video! I would like to ask you about pickups. Are those pickups any special in comparison to pickups on normal scale guitars? Is this "slanting" position important in some reason or is it just about how it looks? Thank you very much!
+Jiri Masin These are the EMG 909 X series, which has a different preamp than a traditional EMG 81/85/707, etc. design.
They use a longer pickup(these are 9 string pickups) because at that angle the 8 string design might come up a little short.
IMO these are outstanding pickups and I wouldn't bother spending the money to put passives in(especially overpriced Bareknuckles)
these do a good job of finding the middle ground between the passive and active sound.
Now only if Ibanez would get their head out of their ass and make sure any guitar they offer above let's say, 700$
came with locking tuners stock....
I'm going to have one of those to go with my SRFF806, but I want the flat walnut finish. I saw one somewhere.
Brilliant demo dude. I however wouldn't place any limitations on the style of music that axe can handle.
That guitar into a Rivera Jazz Suprema 115! OMG!
Can anyone please tell me what drop F tuning would be for an 8 string?
+Tech Tweaks Low to high: F, C, F, A#, D#, G#, C, F
the 8 string tuning for drop F would be from highest to lowest D# A# F# C# G# D# A# F.
No it isn't.
Any recommendations on what brand/gauge strings work well on this guitar?
Lovely looking guitar and very good playing! Is going up to 8 strings from a 6 string a massive step? I'm considering a new electric guitar in a couple of months but I wonder if a 7 string is a more sensible step? You can see my playstyle in my videos. Thanks in advance.
you mentioned Tosin Abasi Signature TAM100 which is my dream guitar but way out of my price range. Can you tell me more how these 2 compare? Also- is it possible to swap pickups for example for Ionizers in this guitar or they won'f fit? It looks like classic 8-string pickup tilted
+Tomasz Gutka is it true that those are 9-string pickups?
+Tomasz Gutka They are 9-string pickups, that's the case with all 8 string fanned fret guitars I've seen as far as I know. Kind of unfortunate since there's not as many aftermarket options out there just yet, but by the time I get a fanned fret 9 string guitar and have the money for new pickups, hopefully there will be some from Lundgren and/or Bare Knuckle(which BK does/did have the Canines which were 9 string pickups).
I think he said TAM10 which is the much less expensive model, still spendy though. I really wanna get the Agile Pendulum Pro 92528, it's a fanned fret 9 string but uses 9 string pickups too, figure if I must get fanned fret and at least 8 string, may as well go 9 since they both use 9 string pickups lol(quarter inch wider neck though). And the Agile 9 string doesn't use EMG's, the passive Cepheus 10/11 bar pickups are probably better, they're $160 each where other Cepheus pickups are $80-100 and even those are on par with the EMG's. I'm thinking I'll tune it like an 8 string with a string higher actually, would be pretty amazing for djent and shred lol.
Oh almost forgot, was also going to mention have you seen the GNG Shen or the Skervesen SkerveTEN? Multi-scale 10 strings, kind of extreme lol, but while the scale range of the SkerveTEN is 27" - 31" which would be great for 4 low strings, it's a bit much for me. The GNG Shen is 22.5" - 29.5" which would be amazing for tuning 2 lower and 2 higher strings, I think that's my ultimate dream guitar. The SkerveTEN is absolutely beautiful though, definitely looks better.
+Tomasz Gutka Oh, I think there is a way you could install 8 string pickups on it though with a modification, but the poles wouldn't quite line up right. Might still work okay though, something from Lundgren or Bare Knuckle even with poles not quite lining up right would probably still be better than the EMG 909's, I kinda doubt poles on the 9 string pickups line up right either but I guess maybe EMG's aren't designed with poles.
The Agile Cepheus 10/11 pickups don't have poles though and would work as another option(not 100% sure dimensions are the same), it's hard to find anything about how they sound though but would probably be an upgrade over the EMG's. Depends some on taste and musical style though of course.
www.rondomusic.com/cepheuspassive10stg.html
This has been on my wish list for a long time! One question: I have a RG8 and addition to have to change pickups and rewire i had to shim the neck. Do you see any need for that on this one? I know that the RG8 is a real cheap guitar but i was surprised how bad it needed it.
hey! :) do you prefer this one or the tam 10 ?
Really helpful video man. Straight to the point, super chill, no douchebaggery. And your playing is phenomenal!
N problem man, good players deserve recognition :D
is the the truss rod two way on these?
I cant tell
Nice review, would this guitar be suitable for slapping stuff like Tosin Abasi style ?
Yup. Why not?
How much does it cost ?
can i install a floyd tremolo on this guitar?
ty mate
If the Kiesel FFs are also running from 800+ it will be a hard choice. And I wonder if, with the amount of budget fanns coming out, Bare Knuckle Pus will release some 9 String sized market models, considering 8 Strings wont fit neither in this nor (probably) the Kiesel and other affordable version (if thats what one wants to call Carvin / Kiesel)
+Matthias Ahlswede BK do offer 9 string pups, but with only one voicing specific to the 9 string guitar thus far! I'm in the process of ordering a custom Lefty angled pup from them :)
+Matthias Ahlswede Bareknuckles does slanted pickups that fit any fan you have on a guitar.
The problem is they are expensive. People complain that these "budget", or mass-produced, multiscale guitars have EMGs when EMGs are literally the cheapest option to keep costs as low as possible. They have a bar magnet already, so slanting them makes it no issue for multiscales. Having to make custom slanted pickups that fit the fan of every single guitar that they produce is not cost effective.
The cleans were better than I was expecting
Question, should I get this or the 2228?
Both good guitars - but I am convinced that an 8-string ist better off with fanned frets.
I think I agree, seems like it would make it have a much better more balanced tone. Plus this guitar is much sexier than the 2228. Not sure if you do, but would you happen to know how much it migt cost to have a trem system installed on this if I got it?
There is only one Trem-System I know for Fanned Guitars, and Strandberg makes those. It is impossible to put a normal trem on a fanned fret guitar...
the RGIF8 is a slightly better than the RG2228, I mean the Prestige series u got the Team J building unique style, that's awesome, but the RGIF8 came with EMG909X pickup, n for Extended-Range, the multiscale system is just gorgeous. I would suggest to u, if u buy the Rgif8, to acquire that Kahler 7228 bridge, so u have more creative possibilities with the "multiscale tremolo"
Bernd Kiltz khaler makes a multiscale trem for 8s
I would love this guitar but I want a guitar to this exact spec accept I want the cut away beveled out so to get my big hands further up the neck for lead any suggestions?
Great videos man! Do you think the low notes would be as defined as a M80M? I want a guitar I can tune in a drop F# tuning on an 8 string meaning my highest string would also be F# so wonder if this is a better option as they are similarly priced guitars. Also it's active vs passive pickups so debating which to get...
I'm getting the RGIF8 at the end of the month. Will wait until there are more 9 string pups on the market to switch out the bridge EMG when the time comes.
Awesome! :)
The 8 string fan fretted Kiesel seems to be a good if not better choice but I found a good price for this one here in the UK.
Congrats! Ordering it on Friday :D Due to the fan and the way it is slanted you need a larger pickup to ensure the pickups cover all the strings. So it has to be a larger 9 string pickup. They are EMG's 909x. I think it's made in Indonesia.
Excellent review and great playing \m/
Excellent review man. Look forward to more.
Great review, thanks for sharing. I played a few Ibanez 8 strings and was going to buy one. I just didn't like the active pickups or the action on them (too much string buzz - maybe the guitars weren't set up properly) so ended up buying a Schecter Omen 8 and love it.
The only thing I don't like about the Schecter Omen 8 is that you can't use heavier gauge strings than what it comes with (they just won't go through the tuning key). I'm not sure about Ibanez though...
is it a heavy guitar? i am asking because heavy guitars usually take a toll on my back.
+CarnivorousRoach Considering the broad neck I would even say it is relatively lite - I don't think you can build an 8-String much liter. Exept Strandberg Boden 8 of course... I would say it is a little over 3 kilos.
+Bernd Kiltz Thanks for the info, how about this guitar compare to rg8?
Jim Breuer is great, and very good guitar player.
Is this better for the money than tha tam10? Which would you pick for the only guitar you could buy?
+TheKris7string Depends entirely on what you play. If you play much clean stuff, get the tam 10. If you tune down the low string a lot and mostly play heavy riffs, get the RGIF8.
Thanks for the demo! Nice work
Great review dude!
love the review. your videos are clear and well constructed. great player and very informative
Bernd: The 10:30 mark is what "makes the point". Every single 8 string and 10 string guitar demo film up on You Tube is by someone who plays heavily distorted "metal" (music ?)
and plays from the low string to the high string and it is always the same note. There is not a single change of pitch in their distorted sound.
The 10:30 mark PROVES the point that a dark smooth, jazz guitar sound can be acquired from this excellent and inexpensive instrument...by simply turning down the volume VERY low, turning the tone knobs down, possible turning off the bridge pick up, for only a neck pick jazz guitar sound and......most importantly using 10 or 11 gauge flat wound strings.
And after all of the above, all we need to do is use a Boss GT - 001 Effects Processor and get that very, very soft, smooth jazz guitar sound like Johnny Smith and Joe Pass. :)
Is all of the above....correct ? Thank you very much for proving a nice sound can come out of tis guitar. :). Antoine
Nice vid man! Very professional clear and to the points of interest. Wicked playing too! 😃
A well thought out review along with good playing. 10/10!
Compare it with ibanez RGMS 8 please
Hey, can anyone tell me what pickups are there? Are those one's the emg 808x or 909x? The official ibanez site says that "EMG808X and EMG909X pickups fit the bill perfectly-not only in size, but also in sound". I am looking forward to buy a cheaper version the ibanez rgms8, and want to change pickups as soon as i buy it, but dont know for which size i should look for. Since it's multiscale, the 909X might fit better, cause of the angle, but still i dont know for sure, can i buy, for example, a standard seymour duncan blackouts, the 8 string version, and will they fit it well, or they gonna be too small
Impeccable playing! Nice job!
Can´t decide: Between this Ibanez, or the TAM10 :(
Biggest issue I got, is that I don´t like the optics of the TAM10 at all ...
He had an old school metal tone. It would sound a lot better with a tone made for the active pickups. Especially if he has an axe fx
DAMN that sounds so crunchy. Thank you for the review!!! I'm ordering one in a couple days!
I wouldn't pay $20 for fine-tuning the saddle, becose it's easy and I think everybody CAN do it.
Hey nice vid man. I was very pleasantly surprised to see Ibanez Put the EMG X series pickups in this!
Nice guitar, really dumb they didn't include locking tuners on this stock though
I love your playing! Excellent review, please make a million more the same!
Great review! I would buy one of these if it had fret markers. I've had guitars without fret markers and I'm more likely to make a mistake if I'm quickly jumping from one end of the fretboard to the other on a dark stage. Hopefully Ibanez will sort this out in 2017 with a prestige model... nothing fancy at the 12th fret please Ibanez... maybe similar markers to the SRFF805 bass.
25.5 - 27 inch :( ... i wished for 27-30inch that way it would be perfect ... like a middleway between the meshuggah 8 string and the normal ones ...
Thanks for the review, I have a Schecter Damien Platinum 8, I do enjoy playing it, but I have to be honest it can be hard to play. I been looking at the RGSM8 and this video has pushed me over the edge. Thank you!
Through a compressor and an eq in the mix and you could play awesome jazz on that guitar. I love that guitar it looks amazing with the open grain ash body, I think an ebony fingerboard would look great on it as well. Nice video.
Good review.
I'm not a fan of the EMG's but the guitar seems fun to play
sehr geile gitarre!!
ich finde die fanned frets auch sehr sinnvoll und neben dieser super gitarre (die ich mir noch nicht leisten kann) steht auch noch der srff806 bass im raum, den ich einfach unbedingt mal testen möchte.
beides zwar noch etwas außerhalb meiner finanziellen mittel, aber das sollte sich in naher zukunft ändern und dann sind das die beiden instrumente, die ich auf jeden fall als erstes testen möchte.
tolles reviewvideo auf jeden fall
Great demo my man ,I'm a Jazz Fusion player ,so thanks for the jazzy Phrasing
I imagine barre is easier to do on a fanned guitar due to the angle of the lower frets
***** I guess not harder is one way to put it.
I imagine a seven string is somewhere in the middle regarding difficulty in terms of barre, no?
Nice chops dude!
Great playing and great review.
Nice review! I like your info and style. Subscribed.
great guitar and nice tone but personally i dont find the lows appealing nor the highs for the tone im looking for :(
i always love your reviews. You're looking especially James Bond in this video.
+German Guitarguy More of a Daniel Craig look than Roger Moore 😛
You can split EMGs, the Schecter Hellraiser series always offers that option!
Schöne Review! Wenn Ibanez da jetzt noch einen ihrer verbesserten Floyd Roses dran gebaut hätten (ZR / Edge Zero), würde ich wahrscheinlich sofort zuschlagen. So aber schwanke ich noch zwischen der Hellraiser C-8 mit Floyd Rose oder eben der RG-8... 😕
Willkommen im Club! :)) Ein Floyd Rose an dem Teil und sofort kaufen. Suche auchnach 15 Jahren Ersatz für meine Rg7620.
You talk about how the guitar with these particular PUs wouldn't be suitable for certain styles of music. You also got the guitar in your hands just in front of you. Why don't you demonstrate it? That would make a lot of sense in a guitar review.
great review !
I like the guitar