You are probably well aware of this, but I think it's worth pointing out that the build quality of Shure's headphones needs to be proven with this new series, given how very well known it is that the SRH940 and related non-A models experience frequent headband breaks.
All except the SRH840, it looks to me like that one probably came out _unintentionally_ more durable. Not the best in its class, but far better than every other full-sized can they make that isn't SRH1440 and 1540.
@@metal571 440 not breaking? I'm impressed, actually, I used to see broken ones on eBay pretty often, and I've been told they are fragile I bought a broken one just to get acquainted with the sound at a big discount some years back, then I later removed the drivers and installed them in a broken Creative Aurvana Live! that I couldn't repair, the CAL! had a dead driver. Fun little project, I still have that "Shure Aurvana Live!", it sounds really good.
@@tsurugi12 their frequency response tuning is very lackluster compared to what's available on the market today at the same price points, as crin has stated as well
awesome review. i've heard a lot of fellow electronic music listeners using shures because of the good bass. ive been looking for closed headphones with actual subbass for affordable money (no more than $200). the 840s definitely are definitely in my wheelhouse
I got the 840a recently and like it a lot. I did change the pads to Dekoni Velour Shure-specific pads, which cut the high treble a bit and are more comfortable, plus the timbre improved. I love the lack of grain in the treble at this price. I do have the K371 as a reference. The 840a is very basic headphone, but very good at this price, but I think only with the pad swap would I for "SHURE" recommend it.
@@_sunfish The K371. I also ended up getting the new Dekoni K371 pads (choice suede) which are far better than the weird stock AKG pads and somehow don't change the frequency response.
@@onepieceatatime thanks for the quick update, can you tell me why did you prefer the akg ? I just ordered both, I'm waiting for them but I want the shure to be better because I put the amazon protection plan on it but not the akg, also the shures are prettier at least in pictures. Also which one is more comfortable ?
@@_sunfish I felt the K371 has better bass tonality, specifically a sub bass emphasis rather than a mid bass emphasis, which I found overall to be cleaner to my ears. I like pretty much everything else about the Shure, though, including comfort and build.
I decided to give these a shot after this review for gaming because I wanted the audio quality and don’t chat during my gaming sessions. With my sound blaster AE-7 these things sing. There’s plenty of bass without being overwhelming. And the mids and highs are in full force too. I’m love the V shape sound. These might be the best I’ve own. I think Shure put the focus where it belongs in the drivers. Not that the comfort is lacking they feel good. But I take great sound with plastic any day as long as it holds up. Sound is subjective. But I would try these you might like them.
The 840a is my new favorite headphone. I use it over my 6xx, 1990pro, and Sundara, for monitoring and mixing my music. I don’t like the AKG 371. The treble response is dull and uneven.
I also just tried these with the ZMF Universe Solid Hybrid pads. They fit around the outside of the cups, but fit well that way. With the ZMFs, the mid-bass is reduced, but the sub-bass is maintained. Still V-shaped, but a "wider" V-shape. Wish I had a measurement rig, but anyway, unless you're completely averse to bass, I think these headphones are worth experimenting with, particularly because the treble has no grain or sibilance. And, they are almost certainly going to be more rugged than the K371. Hard to pad roll on the K371 as well. Overall I'm happy with the purchase.
What about the older, "non-A" SRH-440? Crinacle described it as "the closest thing to Harman thus far" and metal571 described it as neutral and flat. So I'm surprised DMS finds the SRH440A so "boomy" and V-shaped. Are the two models so different? It's also almost twice cheaper than the SRH-440A for now.
Ill tell you right now , rode has a marketing team surfing the comment sections and half these reviewers are flat out lieing about them. They are a horrible headset to listen to , the bass crackles when turned up and the treble is horrible , flat and no life to it. I was expecting a fun sounding headphone but what I got was something much harder to drive and was absolutely worst experience ever , was nothing I expected. Many others have exact same problem.
It's "objectively" good in the treble but many people will find it too warm for their tastes. The warmth overshadows the treble. It's gonna be a toss up. Half of people will love it, half will hate it.
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt While I agree with the general sentiment that it's not that great, I HIGHLY doubt that RODE is in the comments section of our videos hahah. We haven't even done a video on it yet.
@@DMS3TV I bought a NTH-100 on a whim before al the BS in the reviews. I have to say I quite like mine. I also like my DT-700 Pro Xs too. I like a bit of a chesty upper bass and lower midrange.
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt I like them, finally a headphone that doesn't make me flinch on "s" and "t" sounds and I really like the timbre of vocals on them. I think the warmth in the lower mids is about 1, maybe 2 dBs too high in volume for my taste to be perfect, but it's otherwise really enjoyable and also fun in the bass. Never had mine "crackle" when listening and they are not hard to drive.
DMS isn't that type of guy lol I work with a guy that deepens his voice every time he greets someone or meets someone. It's really weird. He also constantly flexes his arms while standing still. He's tiny. You get the idea lol.
I mean that is what it's called but the cause of it is not following the 1/2 shutter speed rule for video making. Basically whatever frame rate you are filming at, your shutter speed should be double that frame rate (30fps=1/60 shutter speed). In this case DMS had his shutter speed too slow, resulting in more motion blur than we're used to seeing
@@DMS3TV I honestly was kinda surprised when I saw it because I know you're experienced in video production. The motion blur does seem a little intense on this video tho, do you have any idea what the cause is? I'm mostly just curious at this point lol
Well I just went to Guitar Center knowing nothing about headphones and listened to a lot of them under $200 and the 440A was FIRE. Sounded miles better than the others was also in better physical condition (holding up to wear better) the AT’s were trashed AND the fit was heavenly. Bought them on the spot.
Would you guys consider doing a headphone round up/comparison within a certain price range of use case? For example you could do closed back headphones around £50 - £150 for enjoyment or professional use or open backs around £300 - £400. I know logistics and the time/effort would make it a harder video to make but it would be interesting to see the comparison of popular or hidden gems with a similar price bracket and use case.
As for mixing and recording SRH440As were pretty good, but the AKG k371 was completely useless. I'm a mixing engineer at a mid-size recording studio fyi.
Interesting reviews so far this year. Maybe you can get your hands on Kennerton stuff like the GH50 or Magni. The Austrian Audio X-60, I think, sounds more natural than the X-65 you reviewed, could be interesting. Personally I liked the TH900 Pearl White a lot for modern music when I auditioned it, but it's probably too v-shaped for you, could probably try the TH610 pads with it though to fix that.
Yeah first found out about the original 440 and 840 through Crinacle's ranking and was hoping the new A models would either improve on the sound or the build quality...both we don't get in the end
@@Jason75913 Omg, exactly! My srh440 broke and I saw they have released 440a so I thought it will be the same just with upgraded build quality and design. Now I will have to order srh440 again I guess. I cant find something with very similar sound but better build quality :( I guess there is no other option for me if I like srh440 sound balance, right?
@@Jason75913 Those are some nice tips! Anyway Koss Pro4S I dont see even available somewhere here. And also I cant find rtings tests for those. I have found out that their 'Raw Frequency Response' pretty corresponds with what I hear. (not 'Sound Profile' that's saying nothing) But for example if I compare srh 440 vs mdr-7506 on rtings it is really like that, sony almost v shaped in comparison to srh 440. So I tested this sony, I tested K361 and I have watched many reviews and tests online about other headphones. And I am starting to have enough of that :( Also those which you are suggesting are more expensive and I am not sure if really better, cant say. SRH840 well... I had to have some reasons I chosed srh440 before. Probably based on some reviewer who fitted with my sound taste. And also tests maybe. But they have same build like 440 dont they? SRH 940 are a little bit different. But for both I dont know if they are worth those money. I finally have to order some so I have to go for 440 again :D :X Which did you chose and are you satisfied?
I’ve got a set of 1540s coming from a friend and am very curious about them. I used a pair recently for a short period in a studio environment and thought they sounded great for closed backs but need more testing :)
This might be the right headphone for me. I am looking for a headphone to plug into my bass guitar when I am practicing at home. I need it to be biased toward the bass so the bass lines in practice tracks are more pronounced, even exaggerated. It looks like this headphone may do the trick. Do you have any other headphone suggestions that might work for this purpose? I have Beyerdynamic Pro DT-770, but the heavy coiled cord is bothersome. They would be fine if they only had a replaceable cable.
The old 840 does everything right and not much wrong, has a great tone to them but hell they are heavy as, i call them my Bruce lee headphone nunbchucks
If the older version of these is B+ (no closed back makes it to A) and 3star price to performance , these new ones are basically one of the best closed back headphones in the world. For a $150... I think there's major 840A denial around the internet.. Lash on the stereo widener and youve certainly got electronic music drivers of the upper tier territory that you can move around the outsode world with light as a feather on your head.. Like, i am now seriously nervous about ever trying to have fun buying things like Noires in the future if these 150usd cans arent far behind.
My old 440s are a creaky, heavy plastic mess. They sound alright, but everything else about them is just ugh. Did they ditch the giant piece of rubber on the headband?
I put some brainwavz on the 840A and use it for casual gaming. The pads also make the highs less harsh for music. Biggest flaw is you only get 1 long ass cable.
kinda ridiculous.. anyone who is really a headphone connaisour knows how colored this review is by the headphones look and feel.. because very few in this world into headphones would say that they sound anything less than great. Especially the srh840s
haha i guess i am a basshead! but honestly i don’t think flat bass is accurate bass at least not with the music i listen too. For example just saw billie eilish and the weekend at coachella and shure 840a is the only headphones whose lows sound accurate to what i heard vs my hd58x sounds quite lacking in comparison
E-Mu Teak, Denon AH-D5200, probably the Rode headphones are an upgrade but let's wait for the review.. he has some reviews praising the Aeons a lot (you probably checked em out allready)
@@jackjack3874 I've already checked NTH-100s reviews from Joshua Valour he said if u want somethin more fun then go to 371/361 ..so that line = deal breaker for me who still need some fun (a lil bit bass boost).
K371 can be pretty fun with the right pads, but I would not know what to recommend, I use Brainwavz HM5 v1 pads (they lack memory foam), which may not be easy to find these days. Still, if you want fun, it is hard to beat Ultrasone Pro900i and Signature DXP.
The much applauded k361/k371 is not even close to neutral either. The treble is all over the place with a massive dip around 3-4 and a weird spike further up that, I presume, is why the low mid sounds extremely hollow making the whole can sound thin and weak. It sounds analytical, but not good. The only neutral part of it is the bass. It's probably good for checking a specific range but definitely not good for mixing either. The shure is a monitoring can where the airiness makes sense. It's not meant to be a can worn at the desk. It's for tracking. There's nothing wrong with a V shaped sound signature in professional use, that's a misconception. DT770 is V shaped and everyone and their mom wears them. HD600 doesn't have low bass whatsoever yet it's a classic because it does other things well. It's a matter of knowing your headphones. There is no headphone that you should use as a reference. The reference is in your head and you use reference tracks for that.
I brought the Shure 440a and I must say that the build quality is really bad. I broke mine because of my big head after around 1.5 months of using the headphone. Considering the price it was not really a good deal but maybe for smaller head it will better.
I hear you repeatedly saying "Shure has been making headphones for a LONG time" (emphasis yours). I'm having trouble finding any kind of factual information about how long Shure Bros have been making headphones. I was in the Hollywood studios in the 60s and 70s and I have never seen a pair of Shure headphones on any engineer's (or talent's) head. Do you have any kind of reference to that cites the history of Shure cans?
Not bad. Personally, removing mid bass (200Hz to 125-ish) and treble (4k and up) bloat by 4-5 dB reduction kills the life in music. 2-3 dB of said regions might be enough apart from the need to knock sub down by 5 dB.
The problem with DMS here is what causes most people to flock to certain brands because some popular person uses it or recommend it, without the people really looking at the reality. Everybody raving about HD600 but here is the problem, when it comes to mixing, which is the greatest speakers of all times, is it not the Yamaha NS10?, yes but they were not even studio monitors. and were not flat at all. But all the mixes done on it translate greatly. Now with HD600 which many praise as the God of reference. the SRH has the exact same frequency, but where the HD 600 falls off without just there The SRH 840A kind of corrected it, raised. Also where it rolls off the treble, and there the 840A raised them.mmmmm Now that is perfect, but people have these folly that is must be flat to be for studio use, without realizing what we do in studios. We look for stuffs to fix and stuffs to beautify. Now if you mix with a headphone with little or roll off bass, you will be tempted to add more till you feel the bass, but you hear that mix in most speakers, it will turn out too much...hmmmm so go your theoritcal flat reference monitor. Also in the high frequency if there was a slight sibilance in a vocal, a slightly harsh shakers, it would sound fine, but maybe other speaker system which rarely roll off highs like that, it will be harsh like a bad recording. So you see why practicality beats just theoritical speaking. if it has enough bass yes you better off having not too much, and not too much high because your monitors system almost maxed out in the high, yes you could have mix less bright but that is better than mix too bright. So you need to know what happens during mixing, than just saying...studio need a flat response. studios maybe a reference monitoring system to check something if everything is neutral as it really is, if you have over done or under done something. That is why you check in other system or even use reference tracks. To me if only there was a little more mid range would be perfect with the 840A but none these headphone are perfect, in the a flat response ruler flat is actually wrong in real life. hence the Haman s curve is the natural neutral but its never flat. This is why music gets worse and bad today, still till now their are 10 headphones better than 20 years headphone because people dont look at reality, they look at specs or fluff response and theory that little bearing with reality. To me this is best headphone SRH80 and I can learn its sound easy. all these sound stage people talk about will make what you hear a little distance which will mask what you want to hear clearly and adjust things or add effects the perfect way if it was close. Use cross feed left to right and vice verse to get a speaker like experience and a closeback headphone is great enough. No open back gonna give you a speaker like listenning experience. The world is full of folly of people when it comes to what is good, they all just follow a crowd. Look at the sony mdr 1706 many say they are horrible, but just because sheeple see it every studio he automatical think it must be wonderful. This is how we all been lied to that Earth is a ball water and land flting through space and also spinning at the time like right now, 666 thousand miles per hour. And I believed it, till I did serious research and behold, what a big fat huge lie. People living in lies and illusions and really thinking they live in reality of truth. How come there is no headphone that perfect, why is it so hard to make.....with all the technology.....only the older things are till better. Nuff said. wake up people wake up
No, no, and no. This is the newer production run. You get the NON-A older version. I assume they added the " A " for a reason. This is tuned differently and you're led to believe that this is the same headphones as the original run. It's not judging from your description alone.
Dude, they're reviewing the A because it's a new headphone that just came out and there are no other reviews on it. Why would they review the non-A versions which everyone knows about, which there are plenty of reviews and is decades old, he's basically implying that the non-A version is still better. It doesn't mean you can't review a new headphone that sounds worse. We want to know.
@@miks_w8945 Shure should've named it differently. Just look at what Sony did with the MDR-7506 and the MDR-CD900ST. Essentially the same, but sold differently because of the difference in tuning. These A ones destroy the reputation of the SRH 840. I guess Shure thought the A would suffice. But Shure Should have approached it differently. DMS on his part should have also had a non-A version with him. I'm SHURE glad as hell I didn't do a blind buy to replace my aging SRH840
@@JStefanA the 840A is the better headphone. I have both (and 20 other different pairs from the usual suspects). The 840A is pound for pound, the best headphone for the money, and beats out many that are way more expensive.
Ultrasone, Audio-technica, Grados, T90, and DT990 are the way to go for V-shape, not DT770, lol 770's V-shape isn't worth writing home about, especially next to DT990 as far as Beyers go.
@@AliUguz 440a has more mid bass bloat and 840a has more subbass and wonky mids. the og 440 and 840 were way more well tuned, although it does sacrifice sooo much comfort.
![[Eng Sub] SHURE SRH440A vs. PROEL EIKON H1000. Choose headphones depending on the style of music](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R_6m0IQa3po/mqdefault.jpg)
You are probably well aware of this, but I think it's worth pointing out that the build quality of Shure's headphones needs to be proven with this new series, given how very well known it is that the SRH940 and related non-A models experience frequent headband breaks.
All except the SRH840, it looks to me like that one probably came out _unintentionally_ more durable. Not the best in its class, but far better than every other full-sized can they make that isn't SRH1440 and 1540.
My 440 I used to use as a daily ages ago didn't break either, but the 940 was particularly notorious
@@metal571 440 not breaking? I'm impressed, actually, I used to see broken ones on eBay pretty often, and I've been told they are fragile
I bought a broken one just to get acquainted with the sound at a big discount some years back, then I later removed the drivers and installed them in a broken Creative Aurvana Live! that I couldn't repair, the CAL! had a dead driver. Fun little project, I still have that "Shure Aurvana Live!", it sounds really good.
I was wondering, is the Equalizing for the iems from Shure shitty or why are so many people trashing them so often?
@@tsurugi12 their frequency response tuning is very lackluster compared to what's available on the market today at the same price points, as crin has stated as well
awesome review. i've heard a lot of fellow electronic music listeners using shures because of the good bass. ive been looking for closed headphones with actual subbass for affordable money (no more than $200). the 840s definitely are definitely in my wheelhouse
I got the 840a recently and like it a lot. I did change the pads to Dekoni Velour Shure-specific pads, which cut the high treble a bit and are more comfortable, plus the timbre improved. I love the lack of grain in the treble at this price. I do have the K371 as a reference. The 840a is very basic headphone, but very good at this price, but I think only with the pad swap would I for "SHURE" recommend it.
Update ? Which one of these two do you prefer ?
@@_sunfish The K371. I also ended up getting the new Dekoni K371 pads (choice suede) which are far better than the weird stock AKG pads and somehow don't change the frequency response.
@@onepieceatatime thanks for the quick update, can you tell me why did you prefer the akg ? I just ordered both, I'm waiting for them but I want the shure to be better because I put the amazon protection plan on it but not the akg, also the shures are prettier at least in pictures. Also which one is more comfortable ?
@@_sunfish I felt the K371 has better bass tonality, specifically a sub bass emphasis rather than a mid bass emphasis, which I found overall to be cleaner to my ears. I like pretty much everything else about the Shure, though, including comfort and build.
@@onepieceatatime including while both have dekoni pads, the shure with dekonis is more comfortable than k371 with dekonis ?
I decided to give these a shot after this review for gaming because I wanted the audio quality and don’t chat during my gaming sessions. With my sound blaster AE-7 these things sing. There’s plenty of bass without being overwhelming. And the mids and highs are in full force too. I’m love the V shape sound. These might be the best I’ve own. I think Shure put the focus where it belongs in the drivers. Not that the comfort is lacking they feel good. But I take great sound with plastic any day as long as it holds up. Sound is subjective. But I would try these you might like them.
The 840a is my new favorite headphone. I use it over my 6xx, 1990pro, and Sundara, for monitoring and mixing my music. I don’t like the AKG 371. The treble response is dull and uneven.
I completely agree with you about the k371... I really don't get what all the hype was about, completely useless for any analytical work.
very true. Everything else was good but the treble was veiled and lifeless.
I have here the srh440A .... for mix my tracks. The srh840A is better ? thank you.
Lol Shure 840a is best kept a secret man. These are $s saving brilliant cans
Just jumping on the 371 hate. Perhaps the most overhyped terrible headphones out there. Really disappointed with them.
I'm very glad that you're switching to raw measurements compared to the 6XX
I also just tried these with the ZMF Universe Solid Hybrid pads. They fit around the outside of the cups, but fit well that way. With the ZMFs, the mid-bass is reduced, but the sub-bass is maintained. Still V-shaped, but a "wider" V-shape. Wish I had a measurement rig, but anyway, unless you're completely averse to bass, I think these headphones are worth experimenting with, particularly because the treble has no grain or sibilance. And, they are almost certainly going to be more rugged than the K371. Hard to pad roll on the K371 as well. Overall I'm happy with the purchase.
Had my OG 440's 12 years and still going strong.
Hey mind if i ask, hows the vocal sound in this headphone ?
i had these pair with Senn GSX 1000 for gaming & music.
What about the older, "non-A" SRH-440? Crinacle described it as "the closest thing to Harman thus far" and metal571 described it as neutral and flat. So I'm surprised DMS finds the SRH440A so "boomy" and V-shaped. Are the two models so different?
It's also almost twice cheaper than the SRH-440A for now.
The 440a is way more bassy. They added some extra sub bass in the 840a and added considerable mid bass bloat in the 440a.
I have SRH1840 and I love it. Everyone should try them if they have the chance.
I want to hear DMSs take on the Rode NTH-100.
Ill tell you right now , rode has a marketing team surfing the comment sections and half these reviewers are flat out lieing about them. They are a horrible headset to listen to , the bass crackles when turned up and the treble is horrible , flat and no life to it. I was expecting a fun sounding headphone but what I got was something much harder to drive and was absolutely worst experience ever , was nothing I expected. Many others have exact same problem.
It's "objectively" good in the treble but many people will find it too warm for their tastes. The warmth overshadows the treble. It's gonna be a toss up. Half of people will love it, half will hate it.
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt While I agree with the general sentiment that it's not that great, I HIGHLY doubt that RODE is in the comments section of our videos hahah. We haven't even done a video on it yet.
@@DMS3TV I bought a NTH-100 on a whim before al the BS in the reviews. I have to say I quite like mine. I also like my DT-700 Pro Xs too. I like a bit of a chesty upper bass and lower midrange.
@@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt I like them, finally a headphone that doesn't make me flinch on "s" and "t" sounds and I really like the timbre of vocals on them. I think the warmth in the lower mids is about 1, maybe 2 dBs too high in volume for my taste to be perfect, but it's otherwise really enjoyable and also fun in the bass. Never had mine "crackle" when listening and they are not hard to drive.
DMS is either sick or he's trying to deepen his voice haha
Love you DMS
I heard he was sick recently and his voice hasn't quite recovered yet.
I prefer this version of DMS a bit more actually lol
DMS isn't that type of guy lol
I work with a guy that deepens his voice every time he greets someone or meets someone. It's really weird. He also constantly flexes his arms while standing still. He's tiny. You get the idea lol.
Hope DMS feel better. One of my faves 🇬🇧💯
is there more motion blur than usual in this video? (I know it's probably called something else)
I mean that is what it's called but the cause of it is not following the 1/2 shutter speed rule for video making. Basically whatever frame rate you are filming at, your shutter speed should be double that frame rate (30fps=1/60 shutter speed). In this case DMS had his shutter speed too slow, resulting in more motion blur than we're used to seeing
@@SuLu_B Nope. I have the camera locked at 180 degrees. In this case it would be 1/48 at 24fps.
@@DMS3TV I honestly was kinda surprised when I saw it because I know you're experienced in video production. The motion blur does seem a little intense on this video tho, do you have any idea what the cause is? I'm mostly just curious at this point lol
I thought it was my phone screen's bad response time, lol
As a pun lover, 4:00 was my favorite part of the video.
Edit: 11:54 too
Well I just went to Guitar Center knowing nothing about headphones and listened to a lot of them under $200 and the 440A was FIRE. Sounded miles better than the others was also in better physical condition (holding up to wear better) the AT’s were trashed AND the fit was heavenly. Bought them on the spot.
Would you guys consider doing a headphone round up/comparison within a certain price range of use case?
For example you could do closed back headphones around £50 - £150 for enjoyment or professional use or open backs around £300 - £400.
I know logistics and the time/effort would make it a harder video to make but it would be interesting to see the comparison of popular or hidden gems with a similar price bracket and use case.
As for mixing and recording SRH440As were pretty good, but the AKG k371 was completely useless. I'm a mixing engineer at a mid-size recording studio fyi.
My SRH440 gen 1 are my mixing headphone and the band just broke. U think I should buy another gen 1 or this new version?
@@dannydevito5859 New version all the way. The head band is much more durable and comfortable.
Interesting reviews so far this year. Maybe you can get your hands on Kennerton stuff like the GH50 or Magni. The Austrian Audio X-60, I think, sounds more natural than the X-65 you reviewed, could be interesting. Personally I liked the TH900 Pearl White a lot for modern music when I auditioned it, but it's probably too v-shaped for you, could probably try the TH610 pads with it though to fix that.
That's interesting, in a nother review I saw with headphones under 100 these came out on top for build quality
I was hoping for a much improved build and slightly revised tuning, especially as SRH440 was tuned close to Harman, guess we got neither.
Yeah first found out about the original 440 and 840 through Crinacle's ranking and was hoping the new A models would either improve on the sound or the build quality...both we don't get in the end
SRH440 is quite nice, I wish they hadn't skimped out on the build quality.
@@Jason75913 Omg, exactly! My srh440 broke and I saw they have released 440a so I thought it will be the same just with upgraded build quality and design. Now I will have to order srh440 again I guess. I cant find something with very similar sound but better build quality :(
I guess there is no other option for me if I like srh440 sound balance, right?
@@PecikCZ Tried the Koss Pro4S or Sennheiser HD300pro? They have exceptional midrange and treble balance.
You didn't like SRH840?
@@Jason75913 Those are some nice tips! Anyway Koss Pro4S I dont see even available somewhere here. And also I cant find rtings tests for those. I have found out that their 'Raw Frequency Response' pretty corresponds with what I hear. (not 'Sound Profile' that's saying nothing) But for example if I compare srh 440 vs mdr-7506 on rtings it is really like that, sony almost v shaped in comparison to srh 440. So I tested this sony, I tested K361 and I have watched many reviews and tests online about other headphones. And I am starting to have enough of that :( Also those which you are suggesting are more expensive and I am not sure if really better, cant say. SRH840 well... I had to have some reasons I chosed srh440 before. Probably based on some reviewer who fitted with my sound taste. And also tests maybe. But they have same build like 440 dont they? SRH 940 are a little bit different. But for both I dont know if they are worth those money. I finally have to order some so I have to go for 440 again :D :X
Which did you chose and are you satisfied?
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Shure 1840 or 1540.
I’ve got a set of 1540s coming from a friend and am very curious about them. I used a pair recently for a short period in a studio environment and thought they sounded great for closed backs but need more testing :)
Is the isolation on the 840a notably better than the k371?
This might be the right headphone for me. I am looking for a headphone to plug into my bass guitar when I am practicing at home. I need it to be biased toward the bass so the bass lines in practice tracks are more pronounced, even exaggerated. It looks like this headphone may do the trick. Do you have any other headphone suggestions that might work for this purpose? I have Beyerdynamic Pro DT-770, but the heavy coiled cord is bothersome. They would be fine if they only had a replaceable cable.
ok not related (great video by the way) but that watch is a killer. Mind sharing the model and brand? Thanks
3:19 i hear that snipe at Andrew. (^:
Would be curious about more opinions between the 840 and the more modern Rode nth100 as well
hahah I totally didn't even catch that. Yeah as everyone knows my hat is fused to the top of my head and is worn at all times.
The old 840 does everything right and not much wrong, has a great tone to them but hell they are heavy as, i call them my Bruce lee headphone nunbchucks
Heavy? 840? How?
lol
@@Jason75913 Well at 390gm that makes it heavy compared to a HD600 at 260gm that's how . LOL
If the older version of these is B+ (no closed back makes it to A) and 3star price to performance , these new ones are basically one of the best closed back headphones in the world. For a $150... I think there's major 840A denial around the internet.. Lash on the stereo widener and youve certainly got electronic music drivers of the upper tier territory that you can move around the outsode world with light as a feather on your head.. Like, i am now seriously nervous about ever trying to have fun buying things like Noires in the future if these 150usd cans arent far behind.
Are you using these for electronic music yourself, or summarizing the general opinion?
My old 440s are a creaky, heavy plastic mess. They sound alright, but everything else about them is just ugh. Did they ditch the giant piece of rubber on the headband?
Did the rubber piece on the headband of your old 440s go rotten, cracked or gooey?
@@chargv no, I ripped it off long before it could. It was just a big, heavy useless piece of rubber. I replaced it with a Sennheiser cushion.
I put some brainwavz on the 840A and use it for casual gaming. The pads also make the highs less harsh for music. Biggest flaw is you only get 1 long ass cable.
I HATE the cable. If i keep therse after testing the k371 im going to order the coil cable as i loved the heavy coil cable that the dt990 pros had.
Great vid. What do you think of these compared to the Skullcandy Skullcrushers? Just so I have an extreme reference 😉
If you don't twist the twist lock the jack can be pulled out if someone trips on the cable.
kinda ridiculous.. anyone who is really a headphone connaisour knows how colored this review is by the headphones look and feel.. because very few in this world into headphones would say that they sound anything less than great. Especially the srh840s
i mix with the 840s and my mixes sound great.
These sound friggin amazing! These are the best sounding studio headphones I’ve used under $200. Better than any ANC headphone I’ve used for sure.
haha i guess i am a basshead! but honestly i don’t think flat bass is accurate bass at least not with the music i listen too. For example just saw billie eilish and the weekend at coachella and shure 840a is the only headphones whose lows sound accurate to what i heard vs my hd58x sounds quite lacking in comparison
Did they revise the tuning with the new A models?
I pad rolled my non-A 440s with brainwavz and they sound and feel much better. Althought I still find the m20x a better value.
If I want to upgrade from my K371 which one I should go next ??? (maybe somethin like AEON close ?)
E-Mu Teak, Denon AH-D5200, probably the Rode headphones are an upgrade but let's wait for the review.. he has some reviews praising the Aeons a lot (you probably checked em out allready)
@@jackjack3874 the rodes are trash . returned them already. they are the biggest scam of hype and marketing
@@jackjack3874 I've already checked NTH-100s reviews from Joshua Valour he said if u want somethin more fun then go to 371/361 ..so that line = deal breaker for me who still need some fun (a lil bit bass boost).
Noire
K371 can be pretty fun with the right pads, but I would not know what to recommend, I use Brainwavz HM5 v1 pads (they lack memory foam), which may not be easy to find these days.
Still, if you want fun, it is hard to beat Ultrasone Pro900i and Signature DXP.
Can we see what the Audix monitoring headphones are like? Headphones & Iems made by a microphone, professionals, and measurements company.
The much applauded k361/k371 is not even close to neutral either. The treble is all over the place with a massive dip around 3-4 and a weird spike further up that, I presume, is why the low mid sounds extremely hollow making the whole can sound thin and weak. It sounds analytical, but not good. The only neutral part of it is the bass. It's probably good for checking a specific range but definitely not good for mixing either.
The shure is a monitoring can where the airiness makes sense. It's not meant to be a can worn at the desk. It's for tracking.
There's nothing wrong with a V shaped sound signature in professional use, that's a misconception. DT770 is V shaped and everyone and their mom wears them. HD600 doesn't have low bass whatsoever yet it's a classic because it does other things well. It's a matter of knowing your headphones. There is no headphone that you should use as a reference. The reference is in your head and you use reference tracks for that.
Are you still going to update your ranking list, DMS?
I like the original SRH840, I’m disappointed that these two don’t seem like they are very good.
I got these two days ago. I dont think ill bother pay 600 euros for the planned cans. These are like the closed bacl version of IE600.
I wait 940a for years now😊 best sound bad build quality. I will wait
great video. here is engagement
These 440a aren’t bad I just got mine 2 days ago
I brought the Shure 440a and I must say that the build quality is really bad. I broke mine because of my big head after around 1.5 months of using the headphone. Considering the price it was not really a good deal but maybe for smaller head it will better.
Honestly thats sadly normal for headphones, they only start getting better durability in the 150 up price range
Is DMS Spiderman ?
@Element 115 I knew it! Peter Parker claimed it was him but he wasn’t convincing.
I hear you repeatedly saying "Shure has been making headphones for a LONG time" (emphasis yours). I'm having trouble finding any kind of factual information about how long Shure Bros have been making headphones. I was in the Hollywood studios in the 60s and 70s and I have never seen a pair of Shure headphones on any engineer's (or talent's) head. Do you have any kind of reference to that cites the history of Shure cans?
What about EQ ? How it responds ?
Not bad. Personally, removing mid bass (200Hz to 125-ish) and treble (4k and up) bloat by 4-5 dB reduction kills the life in music.
2-3 dB of said regions might be enough apart from the need to knock sub down by 5 dB.
SRH1540 next?
resonance fest, enough said, lol, not for folks unwilling/uninterested in modifying their headphones (that's 99% of people)
The problem with DMS here is what causes most people to flock to certain brands because some popular person uses it or recommend it, without the people really looking at the reality.
Everybody raving about HD600 but here is the problem, when it comes to mixing, which is the greatest speakers of all times, is it not the Yamaha NS10?, yes but they were not even studio monitors. and were not flat at all.
But all the mixes done on it translate greatly.
Now with HD600 which many praise as the God of reference.
the SRH has the exact same frequency, but where the HD 600 falls off without just there The SRH 840A kind of corrected it, raised.
Also where it rolls off the treble, and there the 840A raised them.mmmmm
Now that is perfect, but people have these folly that is must be flat to be for studio use, without realizing what we do in studios.
We look for stuffs to fix and stuffs to beautify.
Now if you mix with a headphone with little or roll off bass, you will be tempted to add more till you feel the bass, but you hear that mix in most speakers, it will turn out too much...hmmmm so go your theoritcal flat reference monitor.
Also in the high frequency if there was a slight sibilance in a vocal, a slightly harsh shakers, it would sound fine, but maybe other speaker system which rarely roll off highs like that, it will be harsh like a bad recording.
So you see why practicality beats just theoritical speaking.
if it has enough bass yes you better off having not too much, and not too much high because your monitors system almost maxed out in the high, yes you could have mix less bright but that is better than mix too bright.
So you need to know what happens during mixing, than just saying...studio need a flat response.
studios maybe a reference monitoring system to check something if everything is neutral as it really is, if you have over done or under done something.
That is why you check in other system or even use reference tracks.
To me if only there was a little more mid range would be perfect with the 840A but none these headphone are perfect, in the a flat response ruler flat is actually wrong in real life. hence the Haman s curve is the natural neutral but its never flat.
This is why music gets worse and bad today, still till now their are 10 headphones better than 20 years headphone because people dont look at reality, they look at specs or fluff response and theory that little bearing with reality.
To me this is best headphone SRH80 and I can learn its sound easy.
all these sound stage people talk about will make what you hear a little distance which will mask what you want to hear clearly and adjust things or add effects the perfect way if it was close.
Use cross feed left to right and vice verse to get a speaker like experience and a closeback headphone is great enough.
No open back gonna give you a speaker like listenning experience.
The world is full of folly of people when it comes to what is good, they all just follow a crowd.
Look at the sony mdr 1706 many say they are horrible, but just because sheeple see it every studio he automatical think it must be wonderful.
This is how we all been lied to that Earth is a ball water and land flting through space and also spinning at the time like right now, 666 thousand miles per hour.
And I believed it, till I did serious research and behold, what a big fat huge lie.
People living in lies and illusions and really thinking they live in reality of truth.
How come there is no headphone that perfect, why is it so hard to make.....with all the technology.....only the older things are till better.
Nuff said. wake up people wake up
No, no, and no. This is the newer production run. You get the NON-A older version.
I assume they added the " A " for a reason. This is tuned differently and you're led to believe that this is the same headphones as the original run. It's not judging from your description alone.
Dude, they're reviewing the A because it's a new headphone that just came out and there are no other reviews on it. Why would they review the non-A versions which everyone knows about, which there are plenty of reviews and is decades old, he's basically implying that the non-A version is still better. It doesn't mean you can't review a new headphone that sounds worse. We want to know.
@@miks_w8945 Shure should've named it differently.
Just look at what Sony did with the MDR-7506 and the MDR-CD900ST.
Essentially the same, but sold differently because of the difference in tuning. These A ones destroy the reputation of the SRH 840. I guess Shure thought the A would suffice. But Shure Should have approached it differently.
DMS on his part should have also had a non-A version with him.
I'm SHURE glad as hell I didn't do a blind buy to replace my aging SRH840
@@JStefanA the 840A is the better headphone. I have both (and 20 other different pairs from the usual suspects). The 840A is pound for pound, the best headphone for the money, and beats out many that are way more expensive.
@@JohnSmith-oe4bw preference.
No competition for a modded original 440 then 😉
3:03 отож, кажеш, що для зими це саме те, що треба! 😄 А як на рахунок порівняння звуку зі старою 840 моделлю?
For that price I rather get the Philips Fidelio, so comfy
Very disappointing to hear, I’m a big fan of the original 840, it’s my best or my favorite studio monitor under $200
Atrium video when?
OH he said the rode NTH 100s , yeah returned those . They are trash for sound , thats a fact.
if you like v shape just get DT 770
Ultrasone, Audio-technica, Grados, T90, and DT990 are the way to go for V-shape, not DT770, lol
770's V-shape isn't worth writing home about, especially next to DT990 as far as Beyers go.
@@Jason75913 i’m just talking in the realm of closed monitors. why would you subject yourself to DT 990 in ANY situation it’s just pain lol
Which studio headphones under 100 would you recommend for home studio recordings? Thanks!
The build is SO BAD on the 440A… I couldn’t get past it…
Crinacle literally gave these 3 stars on his tier list and this guy isn't impressed. Really goes to show how opinion based headphones are
@@rush-zh5dc Really? I haven’t seen anyone say they sound different tho. Is it really that much different?
@@AliUguz 440a has more mid bass bloat and 840a has more subbass and wonky mids. the og 440 and 840 were way more well tuned, although it does sacrifice sooo much comfort.
I do not understand why people is so obsessed with bass.They want bass, super bass, hiperbass, megabass
I don't understand why you don't understand. It's just preference.
Bass carries a lot of emotion in the music plus excitement hence why people love bass.
why would anyone be wearing a cap with HPs. or in general for that matter :D
First I guess lol
Wow