i used to romance Yukiko, then she said something stupid on twitter several times. needless to say, i am not thrilled. thankfully Rise were there for me every weekend.
There were details about her SL that I only realized when I played the game a number of times. She wasn't rude as people made her out to be, she was just awkward in interacting with the main characters. Like an alien trying to get a custom in a strange world. Could she have been implemented better in the overall main story? Absolutely. But I still enjoyed seeing her interact with the Investigation Team. Yes, her poetries are bad but that's the point. She's trying to awkwardly figure herself out and the only means she has are through her poems. I also think her choosing to create memories within the present and the future moving forward over the past (which she has been adamant in trying to discover for herself) was a strong turning point for the character. Idk... while I understand why many didn't like her, yet I feel she's a character that was hated on for the wrong reasons.
While I understand her attitude because she lost her memories, it could’ve been better and her social link could be much better , the proof ? Teddie , Teddie doesn’t remember anything yet his character was so much fun , when he went out to the real world , i was smiling when he wanted to learn something ( even if it looked stupid or “pervy”) and his social link was perfect, you can see how important he is and his memories to him by playing normally ( character development) , while marie.... she seemed forced .... her social link was alright but it felt unimportant as it is ( the last segment in her SL was good and can be a good conclusion for her ) but the game made her more important than ever to get the true ending so you have to spend time with her only for her to disappear, then when you learn her backstory , you will realize that if you fail to save her NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN but ofc the main character will help her ( and the player will help to get the true ending ). TL;DR : her social link was forced and was worse compared to teddie ( made the character unimportant) and her attitude was alright but can hated .
Josuke: "is this like in movies, where once the bad guy´s defeated, his evil fortress self-destructs!?" literally every dungeon in Perosna 5 be like: I´m gonna do whats called a "pro-gamer move"
Marie will be a suitable rival for rise They are same adorable, talented in stage (being able to be a news reporter is a kind of acting skills too) and cute but I still like rise more
Yeah I like rivals that get on each other’s nerves but they still respect and care about each other. Like frenemies, I feel like that dynamic is a lot of fun.
Yes, I haven't even played a persona before, I'm about to play persona 4, so I have been watching some videos. And she is so unique. What I mean is she stands out between all the girls. Is something I'm starting to predict that persona 5 will lack, I have seen some videos of persona 5, I have seen their girls, and even if they are all beautiful, good personality, good and original style that makes them different from one another... Not even one is like Marie, I'm not saying that should have another Marie in p5, I'm saying that it seems It lacks a girl with the main character vibes that Marie has 😅.
I'm probably the only one thinking that we should have an accurate forecaster like Marie lmaooo. The sun's gonna be out, it rains. Its gonna be a white Christmas, it's sunny.
Marie ain’t the pinnacle of excellent character writing but I think people do misunderstand her characterization. Her rude demeanor hides her true feelings. She does care about her friends but she doesn’t want to admit these feelings outright, as shown in her boss fight in the Hollow Forest. Marie also doesn’t know her place in the world as she lacked her memories throughout most of the story, and until you came along, she lacked any form of bond with another person. The game makes a point how without bonds, life is hard for individuals. You see this with your teammates, social links, and the true culprit. Marie is no different but on top of lacking a bond, she has no memories of herself. Even Marie being a “Mary Sue” is explained by her being a deliberate parallel to you, the player/Yu Narukami. She’s literally the Izanami to your Izanagi. That doesn’t mean you can’t dislike her for whatever reason. Disliking characters is what makes these waifu wars fun. By the way, Naoto is best girl. You can’t dispute that.
Yeah I think Marie is an alright character I don’t understand why people hate her..... Also I respect your best girl since Naoto is adorable but Rise is better
fun fact: Rise's Seiyuu Kugimiya Rie voiced many tsundere character,known as tsundere queen while Marie Seiyuu Hanazawa Kana voiced many dere character.but, in p4 case this seiyuu switch their role here LoL...well,we all know,tsundere chara is so strong that many of them successfully pull protag from their dream girl.is it also applicable here??LoL
Funny coming from you Mr. I don't care Nah just joking, meh, everyone have their taste, i like Marie but i don't think she is above chie, Naoto or yukiko, etc, i guess it's just hard for me to dislike a character
@@renamamiya5997 oh, so it doesn't matter why Kanji is a delinquent then. Also doesn't matter why Naoto is a childish brat then. Seriously, the game is literally about facing oneself, accepting one's weakness and asserting the ignorance and assumption of the mass, and this is how the fan of the game act ?
This is a bit of a time skip. In that time period, he drops the delinquent act, no longer dyeing his hair and I guess wearing glasses that he probably always needed lol.
I don't like Marie's character, literally an insufferable tsundere. "B-but she doesn't know how to express her fweelings" -- I don't care. She still isn't interesting to me, nor to the general public (always bottom on the list in every persona poll btw kek), even with her lore and all. Best girl is still Chie, tied with Naoto; they're far more entertaining than Marie. Good thing Atlus learned from their mistake and made Sumi.
Rise: Isnt that too long for a hug?
Marie: Shut up Rise
“Is this the lady who decides the weather?”
“Well in this case, yes.”
0:51 Marie sounds like she's in an ad.
She’s mocking Rise, using her own ad against her
"I'm tired of diets, enough with the gym, good thing there's something even I can handle"
It’s the Maru-Q soda commercial from the start of the game, modified! :)
Since I romanced Rise in every one of my playthroughs this was a lot funnier
I romance her on my first playthough by accident she quickly became best girl
@@rawrdino7046 you must felt bad and decided to hug her. Yeah, happens to a lot of people.
i used to romance Yukiko, then she said something stupid on twitter several times.
needless to say, i am not thrilled. thankfully Rise were there for me every weekend.
Do you need to max rise out to romance her
@@azizabdul8914 bro what ?
There were details about her SL that I only realized when I played the game a number of times. She wasn't rude as people made her out to be, she was just awkward in interacting with the main characters. Like an alien trying to get a custom in a strange world. Could she have been implemented better in the overall main story? Absolutely. But I still enjoyed seeing her interact with the Investigation Team. Yes, her poetries are bad but that's the point. She's trying to awkwardly figure herself out and the only means she has are through her poems.
I also think her choosing to create memories within the present and the future moving forward over the past (which she has been adamant in trying to discover for herself) was a strong turning point for the character.
Idk... while I understand why many didn't like her, yet I feel she's a character that was hated on for the wrong reasons.
While I understand her attitude because she lost her memories, it could’ve been better and her social link could be much better , the proof ? Teddie , Teddie doesn’t remember anything yet his character was so much fun , when he went out to the real world , i was smiling when he wanted to learn something ( even if it looked stupid or “pervy”) and his social link was perfect, you can see how important he is and his memories to him by playing normally ( character development) , while marie.... she seemed forced .... her social link was alright but it felt unimportant as it is ( the last segment in her SL was good and can be a good conclusion for her ) but the game made her more important than ever to get the true ending so you have to spend time with her only for her to disappear, then when you learn her backstory , you will realize that if you fail to save her NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN but ofc the main character will help her ( and the player will help to get the true ending ).
TL;DR : her social link was forced and was worse compared to teddie ( made the character unimportant) and her attitude was alright but can hated .
We, in the anime community call that, a "tsundere"
yep. the english dub isn't very good at expressing that nuance, but it's very clear in the japanese dub
@@defectivecumshit2588 whoa whoa easy there buddy
Marie: What is this?!
3:16 The way Marie confessed to Yu on public tv was both funny and cute
OG palace collapse
P5 foreshadowing
Josuke: "is this like in movies, where once the bad guy´s defeated, his evil fortress self-destructs!?"
literally every dungeon in Perosna 5 be like: I´m gonna do whats called a "pro-gamer move"
Wow, I didn't know Josuke Higashikata was in Persona 4.
Dude, P4 is literally Jojo's part 4
@@Marin_Karin there are quite a few similarities indeed
@@Marin_Karin Kamoshida from Persona 5 have the same English VA as Yoshikage Kira
@@ikilledcaptainalex666 Josuke's English VA voiced Maruki in Persona 5 Royal.
Techniquelly she said his name "love Yu"
Thats not Just technicaly thats most definitly what she said
1:19 P5 Palaces in a nutshell.
Lol Marie imitating Rise was totally one of the best lines in the whole game. And so unexpected from her too. 😂
Marie will be a suitable rival for rise
They are same adorable, talented in stage (being able to be a news reporter is a kind of acting skills too) and cute but I still like rise more
Yeah I like rivals that get on each other’s nerves but they still respect and care about each other. Like frenemies, I feel like that dynamic is a lot of fun.
In Japan News Reporters are a type of idol as well.
There was a whole Persona Q mission based off of Rise and Marie
And it was awesome
Marie exists as if people were immediately meant to like her over everyone else.
@Makoto Yuki Kasumi is dead
Yes, I haven't even played a persona before, I'm about to play persona 4, so I have been watching some videos. And she is so unique. What I mean is she stands out between all the girls.
Is something I'm starting to predict that persona 5 will lack, I have seen some videos of persona 5, I have seen their girls, and even if they are all beautiful, good personality, good and original style that makes them different from one another... Not even one is like Marie, I'm not saying that should have another Marie in p5, I'm saying that it seems It lacks a girl with the main character vibes that Marie has 😅.
Well, I did like her over everyone else. ^^
@Makoto Yuki But Marie came before Sumire though.
@Makoto Yuki I still prefer makoto but kazumi is on par
I love how Marie just flat out denied Rise(nope)
Rise still my favorite cause Laura Bailey is the best voice actress
I wish I was like Yu... have a lot of girls in high school like me including a pop idol.
Sorry to crush your dreams man but they will never come true
Just be like yu be kind and calm
You need massive amount of Chad energy to do it
yep, a lowkey yandere.
Rise: *Jealous of Marie*
Me: I don’t give a f**k!
I'm probably the only one thinking that we should have an accurate forecaster like Marie lmaooo. The sun's gonna be out, it rains. Its gonna be a white Christmas, it's sunny.
Not only sunny, but 90°, because f*ck you, this is the Midwest
Yeah we totally should get us a goddess who can control weather to our likings
I can feel the rage in that "WHAT!?
I love how he just skips Teddie's dialogue
SAME 😂 Literally me also
We’re gonna die!
WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!
Dang, Marie really snuck in Rise's soda commercial in there. Legend.
*Laughs in any girl that isn't these two*
Marie ain’t the pinnacle of excellent character writing but I think people do misunderstand her characterization. Her rude demeanor hides her true feelings. She does care about her friends but she doesn’t want to admit these feelings outright, as shown in her boss fight in the Hollow Forest. Marie also doesn’t know her place in the world as she lacked her memories throughout most of the story, and until you came along, she lacked any form of bond with another person.
The game makes a point how without bonds, life is hard for individuals. You see this with your teammates, social links, and the true culprit. Marie is no different but on top of lacking a bond, she has no memories of herself.
Even Marie being a “Mary Sue” is explained by her being a deliberate parallel to you, the player/Yu Narukami. She’s literally the Izanami to your Izanagi. That doesn’t mean you can’t dislike her for whatever reason. Disliking characters is what makes these waifu wars fun. By the way, Naoto is best girl. You can’t dispute that.
Fight me! *gets out dueling spork*
I agree. I kinda like Marie, despite her character problems
JC Corbes I don’t
Yeah I think Marie is an alright character I don’t understand why people hate her.....
Also I respect your best girl since Naoto is adorable but Rise is better
Chie is better sorry
Meanwhile, while they argue, I’m over here with Naoto.
I can never betray my boy Kanji like that
@@dipo7502 As much as I love Naoto, I went with Chie because Naoto fits WAY MORE with Kanji than Yu, let's be honest
Fuck kanji i bought the game i cuck whoever i want
@@LatchinOnI did yukiko
Thats called being toxic my guy
Remember, the more you put in, the more you get out.
fun fact:
Rise's Seiyuu Kugimiya Rie voiced many tsundere character,known as tsundere queen while
Marie Seiyuu Hanazawa Kana voiced many dere character.but, in p4 case this seiyuu switch their role here LoL...well,we all know,tsundere chara is so strong that many of them successfully pull protag from their dream girl.is it also applicable here??LoL
Rise’s reactions are funny asf bro🤣
Man, Marie just replied Rise with that line that Risette says in those commercials, a clear declaration of war.. which is pretty funny and cute.
Luckily marie has rise for rival, cant say otherwisw if yukiko join in
1:18 for some reason I remembered some sagas of capcom that actually this kinda thing happens LOL
Relax ladies, there's enough hero seed for both
Naah. He will use his seeds to all female companions in his investigation team.
Teddie just casually motorboating at the beginning
I love Rise. She is the best!! i WISH Persona 4 was on PS4!!! I dont remember if i still have my Ps2!!!
you can play the pc version its pretty good
It’s on its way
It's coming to Switch next month, alongside Persona 3 Portable.
I’m NGL I don’t really get the appeal of Marie. She’s really rude, but not in a funny or interesting way.
Funny coming from you Mr. I don't care
Nah just joking, meh, everyone have their taste, i like Marie but i don't think she is above chie, Naoto or yukiko, etc, i guess it's just hard for me to dislike a character
It’s basically Caroline but with none of the joking lines, she’s a bad Tsundere.
@@jstyxx4110 she was fucking hilarious in Persona Q though
But she's the best with jpn va, I prefer q2 Marie because it's fully voiced.
fsteak
Who here is surprised?
Why yall hate marie she isnt that rude tho its because she didnt know how to talk to people
It doesn’t matter why she was rude, she was still rude and unbearable.
@@renamamiya5997 ah unBEARable
@@jackofthejones9996 Fur real, dude?
@@renamamiya5997 oh, so it doesn't matter why Kanji is a delinquent then. Also doesn't matter why Naoto is a childish brat then.
Seriously, the game is literally about facing oneself, accepting one's weakness and asserting the ignorance and assumption of the mass, and this is how the fan of the game act ?
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Can you test the max dmg rebelion blade can do on lavenza in p5r?
F for Rise
Waifu wars eh?
Marie is best girl in p4g imho, there, i said it. no joke
Damit, where’s Mona when you need him 😂
3:35
Does he know?
WHEN DOES THIS HAPPEN i need this ending NOW
Max Marie social link before 23th december and u will get it but man, the dungeon is hard. It drains your SP after every battle
Can u do unused content for persona 4 vanilla?
Wait the game account's if his name is Yu!??!!? Nice
When does this happen??
Hello there,.
I'm sorry I'm a bit new to persona 4 golden, the hell happened to kanji?! 2:46
This is a bit of a time skip. In that time period, he drops the delinquent act, no longer dyeing his hair and I guess wearing glasses that he probably always needed lol.
@@Ero_327 oh, thanks I was really confused for a bit there lol.
I like rise than marie
I am thou
Thou art a bitch
Persona 5 is not coming to the Nintendo Switch
Well it is now
it did lmao
Honestly, Rise and Marie are both equally annoying.
Rise flat
Marie thick
They both annoying. I wish Yu had good girlfriend who isn't too clingy and simp to him.
I don't like Marie's character, literally an insufferable tsundere. "B-but she doesn't know how to express her fweelings" -- I don't care. She still isn't interesting to me, nor to the general public (always bottom on the list in every persona poll btw kek), even with her lore and all. Best girl is still Chie, tied with Naoto; they're far more entertaining than Marie. Good thing Atlus learned from their mistake and made Sumi.
Sumi who is shoehorned in every scene and has the most ridiculous moments like the Sailor Moon transformation?
Marie and Kasumi was same, they from uncanon spinoff, too pushes in the game, being canon love interested with the protagonist.
God, the english dub is insufferable. I'm sorry for all you guys who had to play that before the PC release
As someone who plays almost everything in Jp audio, this dub is good so save your sorry
Really stop making people do jap great you prefer jap but some dont mind eng dub
Insufferable are Teddie and Rise voices in JP.