Is the travel distance for the stick identical to the original controller? I've seen people complain of a large deadzone in the middle, but it also just seems like the original controller is like that. I've never used the original, but I do own a Neo Geo Pocket. That thing has a super short distance to actuation and I think some people were expecting something more like that.
REALLY happy this turned out good... I'm waiting on 2 black ones I ordered... The Neo CD pads and Pocket Color stick are just PERFECT for classic games and fighters...
The pocket really does have the best feel but I think that one is on a league of it's own 😅 But compare to the OG NG pad, this one's pretty decent! Thanks for watching and the comment!
Hey brotha @Satumaru. I hope all is well for you and brotha Jesse! It’s great to see you in a new video. I grabbed a couple of these for my Neo Geo ASP and my AES. I found out the Bluetooth adapter they sell on Stone Age Gamer for the AES works with these. Confirmed by the creator of the adapter. I am so happy about these. I hope to see you two soon.
Oh snap it's Mark Smith! I know it's been a while since I've done s proper video 😅😅 Also, that's great that they work with that Bluetooth adapter! I wonder where else they sell those? I hear that the stock at Stone Age Gamer is sold out 😮 Thanks for watching Mark! Good to see you here 😃😃😃
@@Sarumaru, Scarlet Sprites actiually found out for me. I now follow the creator of them on "X". He goes by @humblebazooka. He says he is about to do another production run of them as they sold out fast.
Got my Mai edition yesterday which surprised me because I forgot it was coming out that time. My standard Neo Geo still hasn't shipped. I got these for my Retropie but I haven't tried to use it yet. 8Bitdo gets enough of my money but obviously I needed these. Anyhow my favorite KOF team depends on the game the only 100% sure thing that it includes King and Yuri. I'm not actually a big fan of Mai. In 97 I'll replace her normally with Chizuru.
I wanted the Mai one and a base color pad but neither of them would get to me until later in the month so Kyo it was 😅 As far as your KOF team goes, and this is gonna sound crazy, but Yuri and King are always in my main team (except for the times King wasn't playable 😢). Thanks for watching and the comment!!
Hey there! So I did try it out for you on the Genesis mini and it did not work, sadly. But, I will order the 8bitdo do glen and see if it works with that and I'll let you know if it works. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 😃
I’ve noticed the new controller has a square gate on the stick, I know the NG pocket had a circle gate. Did original CD pads have a square or circle gate? I seem to remember them being circle gates… Pretty unfortunate if they got that wrong…
Original pads use the same square gate. You can see in a disassembly of that version here: ua-cam.com/video/e1bXjuCGOyY/v-deo.html As far as the joystick mechanism goes (from what I can tell with video evidence), this one's nearly a 1:1 exact replica of the original; the main differences are the switches themselves (originals are a long out-of-date set proprietary to SNK, but these look similarly custom made) and the plungers that actuates the switch has a slightly thinner end to accommodate the different switch design. You can see that on the new controllers here: ua-cam.com/video/uBW2gKrPbfI/v-deo.html TBH I was under the impression that they would've redesigned the mechanism housing to use more off-the-shelf tact switches, but 8bitdo seemingly went out of their way to make new switches themselves (or at least use new switches in the same weird up-sized form factor). I wonder if it's for improved durability...
@@ThatOneSeong the gate on the mechanism is a square for sure, same with the pocket, but with the pocket- the neck of the thumb stick actually acts as the limiter to make the stick only move in a circle. I thought that’s how it was with the CD pad too. Admittedly I’m not SO familiar with the CD controller that it’ll bug me if it’s wrong. (Evidently because I don’t remember) It still certainly feels good AF And also, there’s nothing stopping one from 3D printing a stick head with a wider neck to get a circle movement. Which I might do regardless of if that were the original. I think it feels a good bit nicer under the thumb
@@glombomklibblegorf It was news to me for sure, since I've owned a pocket for quite some time now and I kind of assumed intuitively that they were built similarly. To be fair, the CD pad was the first iteration of this clicky stick design; the Pocket was just a descendant of it, made for a handheld device, and 8bitdo is just pulling inspiration from the initial design. So I don't blame them for making that call to remain faithful to the original. Speaking of joystick mods, the video does also raise a pretty good point about the tact switches "not feeling/sounding as good." It might be a stretch because the plungers used aren't quite the same thickness, but I wonder how it might feel/sound if one could install different tactile switches - much like the Laser Bear Industries replacement kit for original CD pads. It would be mildly interesting to compare, for sure. Regardless I could hardly complain about having more/active stock of NG CD pads. Certainly better than spending more to find originals to restore, or jerryrigging microswitches into whatever the fuck the Neogeo Mini was trying to pass off as pads...
Not sure about the Neo Geo Pocket, but the original for sure has a square gate as seen in that video posted by @ThatOneSeong . And although this doesn't feel as satisfying as the original in terms of it's micro switch clicking, it does still feel pretty decent. My concern with it though is durability. I'm hoping 6 months or a year down the road it doesn't start crapping out on me. Time will tell I suppose. Thanks for the comments everyone!
I'm using the Polymega console itself. The base unit has the ability to play CDs and the Neo-Geo CD loading times are completely gone in most games. Here's I video I made on the loading time on the Last Blade. One of the NGCDs biggest offenders when it comes to loading 😅 the caveat is that the Polymega is an emulation console but it I love the no loading times for the NGCD. Thanks for the comment! Loading times on Polymega NGCD: ua-cam.com/video/F5WCWlmh7zc/v-deo.html
Wait, it's not?? That seems like it would be such a miss if that's really the case! Is it just not recognized by the stick?? 😮 Thanks for the watch and the info!
@@Sarumarucome on tell everyone why you felt the need to stalk someone's family and his girlfriend early this year who once supported your overrated channel? Then you and your "pals" from PCEngineFX felt the need to post addresses and other confidential documents on Kiwi Farms. I'm glad you admitted you have ongoing kidney issues. Safe to say I'll definitely out live you.
@@DMIAFH Yeah not a UA-cam panhandler, manchild going on 50 that still plays Pokemon and licks Switch carts on camera, weirdo stalker who hides at Discord with other PC Engine/Neo Geo community paedos, extremely obese with bad kidneys, can never buy anything without his brain dead cult giving him pity cash for games and trips, put out one very bad video game, can't draw anything that is not super deformed. I think Happy Console Gamer, Madlittlepixel, Destiny Fomo, KidShoryuken all pity him because he sucks at everything and only paedos are loyal to him. What a total W.
The original uses completely proprietary tactile switches (that have a larger housing compared to most small form factor tact switches today), so that's hardly a surprise tbh. Though it seems 8bitdo did make custom switches to the same size/shape of the original, but the button itself is different (as well as the side of the plunger that actuates looks slightly thinner). The originals seem to have a bad habit of failing quickly, so I'm wondering if these new switch designs are more durable...? Guess it's only a matter of time to know, lol. Still, looks mighty yummy. Definitely want to get one for myself to try.
Haha yaaasss! I also originally ordered the black one but said it was coming later in the month so I switched it to Kyo (Ioribwas the only other choice that would arrive today so Kyo won!) And I was really surprised! Than for watching Moonjellies!
My favorite teams are URI, Roy, and Terry or swap Terry for either Kyo or Iori. If Mr. Karate is a playable character dependent upon which edition we’re playing he’s on the list as well.
Yuri? Hell yeahhhh I lover her. Kyo and Iori are cool too! I kinda suck with Terry though. Funny thing is that even though I'm good with Yuri I seem to play like as§ with Ryo or Robert considering they play ver similarly 😅 go figure!
@@Sarumaru, Ryo and Robert are my SNK Ken & Ryu equivalents. Terry Bogard is the first SNK fighting game character I became good with playing the original Fatal Fury back in the 90's when my friend got NEo Geo for Christmas. We played the hell out of it lol. Yuri is just a cute little badass!
¡ @h0laPlaneta saludos! Un gusto verte por aquí 😃 Y es más, si tengo un canal en español jeje. Y justo también tengo un vídeo sobre el Neo-Geo CD aqui ua-cam.com/video/vBeKqE2eMgw/v-deo.html Gracias por ver el vídeo dejarme me este gran comentario 😃👍 ¡Y si me sigues en mi nuevo canal en español sería genial! ❤ Abrazotes 🫂
Thanks! Let me know how you like it after you use it 😃 The monitor is the next one up I think? The Asus VG259Q. It's great! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Someone in the comments earlier said it didn't work? I'm not for certain since I don't have one of those to try it out with 😅 If I find out anything, I'll come back here and let you know!
Yeah it's pretty neat! At first I wasn't too crazy about the art but I guess it's alright lol. I would prefer s plain black one though. I'll have to get one of those later 😅 Thanks for watching Gizmo!!
I think that seeing you, who knows how to rock a KOF game, speaks honest volumes on how good or not this is. Freakin awesome Sarumaru-san! BTW, whats better in your opinion - an MVS, AES, or CD library? (and why)
Thanks for the great comment! I appreciate it. Now, answering your about which library is better... that's a hard one! The Neo-Geo arcade is always something that was a part of my life growing up as a kid who spent so much of my in the arcades up until my adult years. So you would think I'd say MVS. However, the Neo-Geo CD is my favorite (even with it's limited library and horrible load times!). Actually, I have a complete Japanese set of Neo-Geo CD games. The MVS though is amazing and I want to get more MVS carts! I play those on an OMVS. Of course, when it comes to collecting Neo, AES is king. But, many games cost many that only a long could afford 😜. Hopefully that gives you a little insight on my overall thoughts about the Neo-Geo. I am making more Neo-Geo related content soon. Thanks again!
Yes! I wanted to know your opinion on this since hearing about it. So I haven't had an original controller but I did love the micro switches on the neo geo pocket. Not the same feel kinda sucks and the sound even sounds different from your video. this is the review I was looking for! I'm for sure still getting one. Awesome job on this review! I love it! Saruuuzzz!!!!
Trustiubbbubbb!! The Neo-Geo Pocket definitely feels best, but comparing it to that might be unfair on my part. But just comparing to the OG NG pad, it feels pretty good, although not AS good. I'm just hoping it stays responsive for as long as possible! Thanks for the love Trustyburger! ❤
Hey! I hear some people in the comments are saying it works with that Bluetooth dongle that Stone Age Gamer is selling for the Neo Geo controllers?? 😳 If it does, that would be awesome! BUT ñ they're sold out womp womp :( I'll have to check back and hotel I can snag one. Thanks for the comment! 😃👍
Nice to see a company get the layout of the neo geo controller right and put an effort to have micro switches in the control stick when SNK said it was hard is nice to see. I have mixed feelings about the artwork on the controller. I love the artwork itself but it looks like something I worry about about wearing off over time. Here's some bacon. 🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓
Right! And it feels real good too which is a huge plus. Especially when. You compare it to the garbage Neo Geo mini controller 😖 and yeah, the artwork isn't something I'm crazy about but it was one that delivered within a day. The plain one was two weeks out yet 😅 Now feed me pork strips!
Haha! Yeaaaahhh the pixelated fire is a bad look. The texel density between Kyo and the flame is just jarring. Then others features being printerd at different resolutions, I could have gone without the blocky flames lol
@@Sarumaruthat Neo Geo Mini controller has much more value than FX Unit Yuki, your terrible attempts at anime art, and your existence. Sandra should have broke your Turbo Grafx-16 and your Pokemon games when you were a teen. She's just as bad as a mother as Barbara Chandler 😂
@@HollowRick I think the Original controller I have has 3rd party springs, as you only need to go 85-90% of the way to diagonal for it to register rather than thr 95-100% the 8bitdo one does. I've honestly been shopping around for replacement springs to get it closer to those.
Nice video, Saru, as always. And it's a nice follow up to the one Ron did the other day. Looks like this controller will definitely be in my future. I personally don't have any familiarity with the original Neo Geo CD controller, but the next best things I DO have is the Neo Geo USB pad for the PS3/PC and my faithful Camo Blue Neo Geo Pocket Color. The USB pad has a nice 6-button layout and L & R triggers and was hoping they could have brought that layout back, but I'll take what I can get. I'm going to nab 2 of the regular controller varients, although they'll be for other people who stop by and as a backup should this PS3 controller decide to not work for some reason. That controller (and the PS2 equivalent) go for some mucho $s & ¥ now a days @_@
Ceruleon! Thanks for the comment and support as always 😃 You know, I never really played with any of those PS2 or PC variants of the NGCD pad but I did hear that they were flimsy. Was that true? Does yours still work? 😲
@@Sarumaru To be honest, there was SOME truth to that. For a time I thought my pad was broken, but after opening it up one day and not seeing anything wrong, it performed as good as new ever since, haha!
The Pope blesses your new Controllers. I love 8bitdo but the 2: controllers I had from them just sort of died on me. Both cases the battery draining killed their ability to sync with anything. I hope this is something they've fixed. They are otherwise fantastic controllers.
A Pope blessing!! Things are looking up again ❤ thank you sir 😃 Man that sucks to hear. I had a similar issue with two of my RetroBit controllers (both Saturn, one wired and one wireless) randomly dying on me and the third wired one I have is starting to fail now as well. I wonder if sometimes it's just the luck of the draw with some defective controllers. Thankfully, none of my 8BitDo controllers have crapped out on me! *Knocks on wood* 😅
I was trying to get the video out in a timely manner but I may do a latest with a tool. I'm sure times will differ between BT and 2.4ghz modes. Thanks for watching!
@@SarumaruDoes Sandra know her son tried to dox a stranger's girlfriend on Kiwi Farms and has a clique full of closet paedos on Discord? What about your sister Vanessa who you and Jesse go to K-Pop concerts with? Does she know her own brother is an internet creep?
Great review. Got the black one coming in soon. Does the slightly cheaper feel affect performance compared to the OG controller, or is it just a matter of adapting? I am not expecting good durability at all, but the M30 and modded joysticks are more my primary controllers for emulated games (or old style modern games). I will use this one heavily when I get it to test durability though. Normally its more of a specialised controller that I love for certain games, especially fighters with fireball type motions (nothing with double taps like MK, or running moves in beat em ups). Reason I said I dont expect this controller to last long is because I kept purchasing the PS2 SNK controller version and the OG controller (with an adapter) and none of them lasted more than a few months. They were pre-owned but I havent had that issue with membrane pad controllers that I also bought pre-owned. The stick just becomes mushy and you dont feel the distinct clicks anymore, rendering it as trash. When I was buying these controllers I was paying 100-120 a pop then re-selling them as broken and buying another. This got old and expensive to maintain, so I gave up on them. The Versus fighting pad by PDP also tried this, but those controllers were shit. The rubber was melting off all of them and the stick felt extremely imprecise. Loved the dpad/stick on the SNK ones though. Its too bad they didnt incorporate the 6 face buttons of the PS2 version, but the inclusion of turbo is awesome and something I always wanted on this controller. Id be willing to pay 35 dollars every 6 months if the controller lasts atleast that long, but time will tell. Maybe a new one will last slightly longer than the used ones I got. I doubt they fixed the original quality issues. I saw a tear down and it looked identical to the OG insides.
So your comment addresses one of my major concerns about this pad and that is the longevity factor. I feel that in terms of the micro switches, I feel like they'll become worn with use. But I'm hoping that it takes it at least more than a year of regular use before it gets to that point! Maybe I am being to hopeful but like you said, time will tell. Not, the pad itself does feel like a downgrade in terms of quality compare to the original pad, but not to the point where I am noticing it during gameplay. I'll be playing it side by side with my original on the MiSTer (using the SNAC USB adapter) to see how they compare. By the way, thanks so much for this engaging comment and for watching the video. I appreciate it!
@@Sarumaru Appreciate the detailed response. No Problem, really enjoy the breakdown you gave. Thats good to read atleast. Performance would be my main concern, though its always nice to have that nice feel too. Sounds like the controller still has a nice clickiness and feel, just not quite as substantial as the OG controller. Maybe the click isnt as pronounced. Ill really have to test it in fighters with fireball motions, as that was where the controller really blew me away. Loved it on some platformers too. For shooters and some other types of games I felt I was faster with a pad like the M30 or a modded stick, so it wasnt my main pad, but the most enjoyable pad to use, feel wise. I found myself using it even when it wasnt optimal for certain games, for me. For 35 bucks Im willing to replace them if I can get atleast 6 months of on and off use. Still kind of shitty, but I might be willing if it feels close enough to the original feel. Be nice if it actually lasts longer. One of my M30s lasted me about 2 years and probably over 500 games beaten, before the pad was basically crushed in with very undefined responses. So they are pretty durable too. Still waiting for Saturn support on the Mister, but definately interested in checking it out. Too much input lag on Saturn emulation, especially for shooters.
@@theconsolekiller7113 I sure hope that it lasts longer than 6 months! The M30 has lasted me over 2 years and it's still going good with it. Hopefully it doesn't die on me anytime soon. Good Saturn emulation on the MiSTer is something that I hope happens soon! That's one of the main reasons I keep going back to the Polymega (that, and the excellent Neo Geo CD emulation). Hopefully that's something that happens for the MiSTer sooner than later.
Nice. Hopefully it lasts you longer but atleast the M30 is cheap for a few years of use. When I was playing newer consoles heavily Id be lucky to get a year out of these analog controllers before getting stick drift. I started embracing emulation heavily around 1999-2000. Sold all my old consoles and games when emulation was up to my standard. At the time I was hooking a PC with video out to a CRT and my stereo, though at the start I had a shitty PC and played some games on the CRT monitor with no sound, or running them too slow and using a very shitty gravis game pad. Things improved pretty quickly though. By 1999-2000 emulation for alot of older consoles was quite good, even PS1. So when it comes to the old games emulation is really the only method for me, as my collection is gone. Saturn is really the only thing that seems to have that input lag, for some reason. @@Sarumaru
@@theconsolekiller7113 Nice! I never dabbled in any PC emulation in the past. I was always a pretty hardcore console guy here. But nowadays that's changed with the Advent of tmsome new emulation consoles like the Evercade, Polymega, the Miyoo mini RetroPie and things like the MiSTer. And it's not because I was a purist or anything like that, it's just that I didn't like to tinker with stuff but now it's been made so easy. The only time in the past I really played the crap out of emulation was with the first Xbox which was an emulation powerhouse for the time! Ahhh those were good times :)
Look, I've had plenty of trips around the sun, and I was playing Neo-Geo games in an actual arcade, in the actual 1990s. Here's what I wanna know... is that clicky stick as good as the one on the Neo-Geo Pocket? Because that thing was checkmate in an argument about high quality controls on a portable. I'd like to play Neo-Geo Pocket again, but I can't do that on my Switch Lite because the D-pad is such a lost cause. If the Neo-Geo Pocket had a controller that was absolutely perfect for fighting games, the Switch Lite has a controller that's absolutely miserable for everything. It sucks for fighting games, it sucks for arcade games, it sucks for VISUAL NOVELS, it sucks for every genre of video game currently in existence. It sucks so bad it even sucks for touchscreen games.
I'm not sure why I found your dismay for the Switch D-pad so humorous 😆 But yes. It sucks as§. And no, the micro switches in this are definitely not as good as the ones you would find on a Neo Geo pocket and no where near as satisfying to use. With that said, it's still pretty solid. BUT, the Neo Geo mini pad set the bar SO LOW that I feel that even the smallest improvement is celebrated 😅 I do like this pad though and still recommend it even though it isn't as satisfying to use as the OG controller or NGP.
@@Sarumaru I just got one of these from Woot. It's all right, but the throw is massive... you can push the click stick a few millimeters in any direction and not have it actuate. This was not the case with the Neo-Geo Pocket, which was much more sensitive.
If anyone wants to buy the same controller I got here here on Amazon. amzn.to/3Zi1BV9
Is the travel distance for the stick identical to the original controller? I've seen people complain of a large deadzone in the middle, but it also just seems like the original controller is like that. I've never used the original, but I do own a Neo Geo Pocket. That thing has a super short distance to actuation and I think some people were expecting something more like that.
REALLY happy this turned out good... I'm waiting on 2 black ones I ordered... The Neo CD pads and Pocket Color stick are just PERFECT for classic games and fighters...
The pocket really does have the best feel but I think that one is on a league of it's own 😅 But compare to the OG NG pad, this one's pretty decent! Thanks for watching and the comment!
"You can input good." Solid review. ' v'
INPUT SO HARD!!
Thanks for the review! You convinced me to pick this up for my MiSTer.
Awesome! And thank you for watching my video and commenting 😃
getting the plain ones around September here. Great review, mate!
I'm definitely gonna try and get a plain one. I sure hope they add real Neo Geo support somehow though. Thanks for watching Inus! 😊
I love how it worked with the Mister out the gate. I’m going to play through the Metal Slug games with this controller. Awesome vid. Saru.
Hey brotha @Satumaru. I hope all is well for you and brotha Jesse! It’s great to see you in a new video. I grabbed a couple of these for my Neo Geo ASP and my AES. I found out the Bluetooth adapter they sell on Stone Age Gamer for the AES works with these. Confirmed by the creator of the adapter. I am so happy about these. I hope to see you two soon.
Oh snap it's Mark Smith! I know it's been a while since I've done s proper video 😅😅 Also, that's great that they work with that Bluetooth adapter! I wonder where else they sell those? I hear that the stock at Stone Age Gamer is sold out 😮 Thanks for watching Mark! Good to see you here 😃😃😃
@@Sarumaru, Scarlet Sprites actiually found out for me. I now follow the creator of them on "X". He goes by @humblebazooka. He says he is about to do another production run of them as they sold out fast.
Excellent!
Any eight button controllers with this type of thumb stick?
I think these look awesome. Im defo gonna get a couple of them
Yeah man. I was quite surprised it 😃
A dongle would be great, but BlueRetro does make NeoGeo CD BT dongles, but unfortunately they are currently sold out on Stone Age Gamer.
Aww man I needs’ta git it! Thanks for the info! And more importantly, thanks for watching 😃
Got my Mai edition yesterday which surprised me because I forgot it was coming out that time. My standard Neo Geo still hasn't shipped. I got these for my Retropie but I haven't tried to use it yet. 8Bitdo gets enough of my money but obviously I needed these. Anyhow my favorite KOF team depends on the game the only 100% sure thing that it includes King and Yuri. I'm not actually a big fan of Mai. In 97 I'll replace her normally with Chizuru.
I wanted the Mai one and a base color pad but neither of them would get to me until later in the month so Kyo it was 😅
As far as your KOF team goes, and this is gonna sound crazy, but Yuri and King are always in my main team (except for the times King wasn't playable 😢). Thanks for watching and the comment!!
I got mine today, it's wonderful.
It's pretty great! I just hope it lasts. I'm gonna try it with some other stuff when I get time. Thanks for the comment!
I wonder if you can swap microswitches inside for something from the top shelf...
btw. banggood has this white 2.4g m30 for super cheap
I got a couple on order arriving soon. Do you know if it works with the genesis mini?
Hey there! So I did try it out for you on the Genesis mini and it did not work, sadly. But, I will order the 8bitdo do glen and see if it works with that and I'll let you know if it works. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! 😃
@@Sarumaru thank you for your response. I hope it does work.
If you think so well, the white one that you have it is so similar to joystick flouent movement
..yes
I’ve noticed the new controller has a square gate on the stick, I know the NG pocket had a circle gate. Did original CD pads have a square or circle gate? I seem to remember them being circle gates…
Pretty unfortunate if they got that wrong…
Original pads use the same square gate. You can see in a disassembly of that version here: ua-cam.com/video/e1bXjuCGOyY/v-deo.html
As far as the joystick mechanism goes (from what I can tell with video evidence), this one's nearly a 1:1 exact replica of the original; the main differences are the switches themselves (originals are a long out-of-date set proprietary to SNK, but these look similarly custom made) and the plungers that actuates the switch has a slightly thinner end to accommodate the different switch design. You can see that on the new controllers here: ua-cam.com/video/uBW2gKrPbfI/v-deo.html
TBH I was under the impression that they would've redesigned the mechanism housing to use more off-the-shelf tact switches, but 8bitdo seemingly went out of their way to make new switches themselves (or at least use new switches in the same weird up-sized form factor). I wonder if it's for improved durability...
@@ThatOneSeong the gate on the mechanism is a square for sure, same with the pocket, but with the pocket- the neck of the thumb stick actually acts as the limiter to make the stick only move in a circle.
I thought that’s how it was with the CD pad too.
Admittedly I’m not SO familiar with the CD controller that it’ll bug me if it’s wrong. (Evidently because I don’t remember)
It still certainly feels good AF
And also, there’s nothing stopping one from 3D printing a stick head with a wider neck to get a circle movement. Which I might do regardless of if that were the original. I think it feels a good bit nicer under the thumb
@@glombomklibblegorf It was news to me for sure, since I've owned a pocket for quite some time now and I kind of assumed intuitively that they were built similarly.
To be fair, the CD pad was the first iteration of this clicky stick design; the Pocket was just a descendant of it, made for a handheld device, and 8bitdo is just pulling inspiration from the initial design. So I don't blame them for making that call to remain faithful to the original.
Speaking of joystick mods, the video does also raise a pretty good point about the tact switches "not feeling/sounding as good." It might be a stretch because the plungers used aren't quite the same thickness, but I wonder how it might feel/sound if one could install different tactile switches - much like the Laser Bear Industries replacement kit for original CD pads. It would be mildly interesting to compare, for sure.
Regardless I could hardly complain about having more/active stock of NG CD pads. Certainly better than spending more to find originals to restore, or jerryrigging microswitches into whatever the fuck the Neogeo Mini was trying to pass off as pads...
Not sure about the Neo Geo Pocket, but the original for sure has a square gate as seen in that video posted by @ThatOneSeong . And although this doesn't feel as satisfying as the original in terms of it's micro switch clicking, it does still feel pretty decent. My concern with it though is durability. I'm hoping 6 months or a year down the road it doesn't start crapping out on me. Time will tell I suppose. Thanks for the comments everyone!
Which polymega product are you using specifically to get your full neo cd set playing? Is there no loading at all?
I'm using the Polymega console itself. The base unit has the ability to play CDs and the Neo-Geo CD loading times are completely gone in most games. Here's I video I made on the loading time on the Last Blade. One of the NGCDs biggest offenders when it comes to loading 😅 the caveat is that the Polymega is an emulation console but it I love the no loading times for the NGCD. Thanks for the comment!
Loading times on Polymega NGCD:
ua-cam.com/video/F5WCWlmh7zc/v-deo.html
My favorite King of fighters team is Felicia, Chun Li and Rogue from Mortal Kombat 2. :P
Lol wat!
I really wanted one of these specifically for my Arcade Stick Pro, I was sad at the realization that they aren't actually compatible.
Wait, it's not?? That seems like it would be such a miss if that's really the case! Is it just not recognized by the stick?? 😮 Thanks for the watch and the info!
@@Sarumaruthey will fix it in a firmware update
Amazing video as always, glad to see micro switches back and not that awful neo geo mini controller
Matthew! YES! It's awesome to have microswitches back 😁 Thanks for watching!!
The first guy on here that actually shows an unboxing after clicking a dozen youtube videos that didn’t show it
Lol wat. Are folks just talking about it and not showing the actual controller? 😅
@@Sarumarucome on tell everyone why you felt the need to stalk someone's family and his girlfriend early this year who once supported your overrated channel? Then you and your "pals" from PCEngineFX felt the need to post addresses and other confidential documents on Kiwi Farms. I'm glad you admitted you have ongoing kidney issues. Safe to say I'll definitely out live you.
@@Gouts_Are_Awesome Sarumaru will die happy knowing he never turned out like Nintega, which is the biggest W.
@@DMIAFH Yeah not a UA-cam panhandler, manchild going on 50 that still plays Pokemon and licks Switch carts on camera, weirdo stalker who hides at Discord with other PC Engine/Neo Geo community paedos, extremely obese with bad kidneys, can never buy anything without his brain dead cult giving him pity cash for games and trips, put out one very bad video game, can't draw anything that is not super deformed. I think Happy Console Gamer, Madlittlepixel, Destiny Fomo, KidShoryuken all pity him because he sucks at everything and only paedos are loyal to him. What a total W.
@@DMIAFHHi again Kevin. When was the last time you and Susie got laid? 10 years ago? Tell her you're gay already and file a divorce you sicko.
I guess it's hard to replicate the exact same microswitches as the original. But glad to hear it works great!
Indeed! I'm just happy that there are micro switches at all 😅 Thanks for watching!
The original uses completely proprietary tactile switches (that have a larger housing compared to most small form factor tact switches today), so that's hardly a surprise tbh.
Though it seems 8bitdo did make custom switches to the same size/shape of the original, but the button itself is different (as well as the side of the plunger that actuates looks slightly thinner). The originals seem to have a bad habit of failing quickly, so I'm wondering if these new switch designs are more durable...? Guess it's only a matter of time to know, lol.
Still, looks mighty yummy. Definitely want to get one for myself to try.
Ahhh makes sense. Thanks again for the info!
DOES IT HAVE THE CLICKY DPAD!?!?!? I NEED
It has CLICKY!! 😁
@@Sarumaru got the Terry one 🙌 Are You Ok? Busta Wolf!
BUSTAA WURUFUFUFUFFF 💥💥😆
😢😢I'm still waiting for mine to come in
Oh noes! Did you get the Mai controller??
11:25 First try, baby!!
I can't wait for mine to come it. I got the plain black one.
Haha yaaasss!
I also originally ordered the black one but said it was coming later in the month so I switched it to Kyo (Ioribwas the only other choice that would arrive today so Kyo won!) And I was really surprised! Than for watching Moonjellies!
My favorite teams are URI, Roy, and Terry or swap Terry for either Kyo or Iori. If Mr. Karate is a playable character dependent upon which edition we’re playing he’s on the list as well.
Yuri? Hell yeahhhh I lover her. Kyo and Iori are cool too! I kinda suck with Terry though. Funny thing is that even though I'm good with Yuri I seem to play like as§ with Ryo or Robert considering they play ver similarly 😅 go figure!
@@Sarumaru, Ryo and Robert are my SNK Ken & Ryu equivalents. Terry Bogard is the first SNK fighting game character I became good with playing the original Fatal Fury back in the 90's when my friend got NEo Geo for Christmas. We played the hell out of it lol. Yuri is just a cute little badass!
I dont have a neo geo cd but that controller looks cool!
Well, it doesn't work on a Neo Geo CD anyway haha 😆 but hopefully they will make it so it does work on an NGCD eventually 😃
Great review! Pulling of DP moves on it with ease is important for me when it comes to snk fighters. Just ordered 2 😂
Oye Saru, gran video. ¿Has pensado en hacer otro canal hermano pero con contenido en español? El mismo video pero para la banda.
¡ @h0laPlaneta saludos! Un gusto verte por aquí 😃 Y es más, si tengo un canal en español jeje. Y justo también tengo un vídeo sobre el Neo-Geo CD aqui
ua-cam.com/video/vBeKqE2eMgw/v-deo.html
Gracias por ver el vídeo dejarme me este gran comentario 😃👍 ¡Y si me sigues en mi nuevo canal en español sería genial! ❤ Abrazotes 🫂
Your og cd controller thumb pad is upside down the dot is supposed to face north
It sure is! 😆
Great review! just ordered one of these. Also, is that an ASUS VG275Q? friggin AWESOME monitor for retro gaming and emulation in particular.
Thanks! Let me know how you like it after you use it 😃 The monitor is the next one up I think? The Asus VG259Q. It's great! Thanks for watching and for the comment!
Very good comparison/review.
So many controller reviews are so surface level and useless. Yours is one of the good one. Nice work. Thank you!
Thanks so much! I appreciate reading comments like this and am very glad liked the video 😃
Can anyone confirm getting it to work with a Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro?
Someone in the comments earlier said it didn't work? I'm not for certain since I don't have one of those to try it out with 😅 If I find out anything, I'll come back here and let you know!
that's also works out of the box with blueretro, it means neogeo
This is great information! Thanks for the tip and the comment 😃👍
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Excellent! Thank you!! 😃😃😃
The graphic looks really good on that controller 👍
Yeah it's pretty neat! At first I wasn't too crazy about the art but I guess it's alright lol. I would prefer s plain black one though. I'll have to get one of those later 😅 Thanks for watching Gizmo!!
I think that seeing you, who knows how to rock a KOF game, speaks honest volumes on how good or not this is. Freakin awesome Sarumaru-san! BTW, whats better in your opinion - an MVS, AES, or CD library? (and why)
Thanks for the great comment! I appreciate it. Now, answering your about which library is better... that's a hard one! The Neo-Geo arcade is always something that was a part of my life growing up as a kid who spent so much of my in the arcades up until my adult years. So you would think I'd say MVS. However, the Neo-Geo CD is my favorite (even with it's limited library and horrible load times!). Actually, I have a complete Japanese set of Neo-Geo CD games. The MVS though is amazing and I want to get more MVS carts! I play those on an OMVS. Of course, when it comes to collecting Neo, AES is king. But, many games cost many that only a long could afford 😜. Hopefully that gives you a little insight on my overall thoughts about the Neo-Geo. I am making more Neo-Geo related content soon. Thanks again!
Yes! I wanted to know your opinion on this since hearing about it. So I haven't had an original controller but I did love the micro switches on the neo geo pocket. Not the same feel kinda sucks and the sound even sounds different from your video. this is the review I was looking for! I'm for sure still getting one. Awesome job on this review! I love it! Saruuuzzz!!!!
Trustiubbbubbb!! The Neo-Geo Pocket definitely feels best, but comparing it to that might be unfair on my part. But just comparing to the OG NG pad, it feels pretty good, although not AS good. I'm just hoping it stays responsive for as long as possible! Thanks for the love Trustyburger! ❤
Es compatible por Bluetooth en steam deck??
I won't hold my breath but hoping they release a Neo Geo dongle.
Hey! I hear some people in the comments are saying it works with that Bluetooth dongle that Stone Age Gamer is selling for the Neo Geo controllers?? 😳 If it does, that would be awesome! BUT ñ they're sold out womp womp :( I'll have to check back and hotel I can snag one. Thanks for the comment! 😃👍
I bet it'd work great with the C64 core
But Mark, does it have enough buttons to play Ghost Chaser?! 😮😮😮
Nice to see a company get the layout of the neo geo controller right and put an effort to have micro switches in the control stick when SNK said it was hard is nice to see. I have mixed feelings about the artwork on the controller. I love the artwork itself but it looks like something I worry about about wearing off over time. Here's some bacon. 🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓🥓
Right! And it feels real good too which is a huge plus. Especially when. You compare it to the garbage Neo Geo mini controller 😖 and yeah, the artwork isn't something I'm crazy about but it was one that delivered within a day. The plain one was two weeks out yet 😅
Now feed me pork strips!
Was excited about the artwork till I looked further. Looks kinda more stretched than I liked and not thrilled with the quality.
Haha! Yeaaaahhh the pixelated fire is a bad look. The texel density between Kyo and the flame is just jarring. Then others features being printerd at different resolutions, I could have gone without the blocky flames lol
@@Sarumaruthat Neo Geo Mini controller has much more value than FX Unit Yuki, your terrible attempts at anime art, and your existence. Sandra should have broke your Turbo Grafx-16 and your Pokemon games when you were a teen. She's just as bad as a mother as Barbara Chandler 😂
The biggest issue with the 8bitdo controller is the weak springs leading to poor diagonal windows and long throws being necessary.
The original also has a long throw It's just part of the original controller design
It was the pocket that has the shorter throw
@@HollowRick I think the Original controller I have has 3rd party springs, as you only need to go 85-90% of the way to diagonal for it to register rather than thr 95-100% the 8bitdo one does.
I've honestly been shopping around for replacement springs to get it closer to those.
Nice video, Saru, as always. And it's a nice follow up to the one Ron did the other day. Looks like this controller will definitely be in my future. I personally don't have any familiarity with the original Neo Geo CD controller, but the next best things I DO have is the Neo Geo USB pad for the PS3/PC and my faithful Camo Blue Neo Geo Pocket Color. The USB pad has a nice 6-button layout and L & R triggers and was hoping they could have brought that layout back, but I'll take what I can get. I'm going to nab 2 of the regular controller varients, although they'll be for other people who stop by and as a backup should this PS3 controller decide to not work for some reason. That controller (and the PS2 equivalent) go for some mucho $s & ¥ now a days @_@
Ceruleon! Thanks for the comment and support as always 😃 You know, I never really played with any of those PS2 or PC variants of the NGCD pad but I did hear that they were flimsy. Was that true? Does yours still work? 😲
@@Sarumaru To be honest, there was SOME truth to that. For a time I thought my pad was broken, but after opening it up one day and not seeing anything wrong, it performed as good as new ever since, haha!
The Pope blesses your new Controllers.
I love 8bitdo but the 2: controllers I had from them just sort of died on me. Both cases the battery draining killed their ability to sync with anything. I hope this is something they've fixed. They are otherwise fantastic controllers.
A Pope blessing!! Things are looking up again ❤ thank you sir 😃
Man that sucks to hear. I had a similar issue with two of my RetroBit controllers (both Saturn, one wired and one wireless) randomly dying on me and the third wired one I have is starting to fail now as well. I wonder if sometimes it's just the luck of the draw with some defective controllers. Thankfully, none of my 8BitDo controllers have crapped out on me! *Knocks on wood* 😅
My Big 6 Retrobit will randomly pause at times. Saturn pad is still going strong.
Probably is just luck of the draw as you said.
Crossing my fingers this NG pad ends up being durable!
yeah if it lasts I might grab one myself
Qué bueno saber que valen la pena
La neta que si. Están mucho más mejor que las que lanzaron con el Neo-Geo Mini. Esos eran una c@gada 😆
Why no lag test?
I was trying to get the video out in a timely manner but I may do a latest with a tool. I'm sure times will differ between BT and 2.4ghz modes. Thanks for watching!
lets cross our fingers and hope we get that OG Neo geo dongle. that would be 10/10 lol
Hell yeah gurl I need me some dingle dongle action!! Who we gotta beat up?
@@SarumaruDoes Sandra know her son tried to dox a stranger's girlfriend on Kiwi Farms and has a clique full of closet paedos on Discord? What about your sister Vanessa who you and Jesse go to K-Pop concerts with? Does she know her own brother is an internet creep?
Is it works on switch?
Out of the box it does not work. However, you can use the 8bitdo bluetooth adapter 2 to use it on the Switch.
Thanks for the attention. 😊
Great review. Got the black one coming in soon. Does the slightly cheaper feel affect performance compared to the OG controller, or is it just a matter of adapting? I am not expecting good durability at all, but the M30 and modded joysticks are more my primary controllers for emulated games (or old style modern games). I will use this one heavily when I get it to test durability though. Normally its more of a specialised controller that I love for certain games, especially fighters with fireball type motions (nothing with double taps like MK, or running moves in beat em ups).
Reason I said I dont expect this controller to last long is because I kept purchasing the PS2 SNK controller version and the OG controller (with an adapter) and none of them lasted more than a few months. They were pre-owned but I havent had that issue with membrane pad controllers that I also bought pre-owned. The stick just becomes mushy and you dont feel the distinct clicks anymore, rendering it as trash. When I was buying these controllers I was paying 100-120 a pop then re-selling them as broken and buying another. This got old and expensive to maintain, so I gave up on them. The Versus fighting pad by PDP also tried this, but those controllers were shit. The rubber was melting off all of them and the stick felt extremely imprecise. Loved the dpad/stick on the SNK ones though. Its too bad they didnt incorporate the 6 face buttons of the PS2 version, but the inclusion of turbo is awesome and something I always wanted on this controller. Id be willing to pay 35 dollars every 6 months if the controller lasts atleast that long, but time will tell. Maybe a new one will last slightly longer than the used ones I got. I doubt they fixed the original quality issues. I saw a tear down and it looked identical to the OG insides.
So your comment addresses one of my major concerns about this pad and that is the longevity factor. I feel that in terms of the micro switches, I feel like they'll become worn with use. But I'm hoping that it takes it at least more than a year of regular use before it gets to that point! Maybe I am being to hopeful but like you said, time will tell. Not, the pad itself does feel like a downgrade in terms of quality compare to the original pad, but not to the point where I am noticing it during gameplay. I'll be playing it side by side with my original on the MiSTer (using the SNAC USB adapter) to see how they compare.
By the way, thanks so much for this engaging comment and for watching the video. I appreciate it!
@@Sarumaru Appreciate the detailed response. No Problem, really enjoy the breakdown you gave.
Thats good to read atleast. Performance would be my main concern, though its always nice to have that nice feel too. Sounds like the controller still has a nice clickiness and feel, just not quite as substantial as the OG controller. Maybe the click isnt as pronounced. Ill really have to test it in fighters with fireball motions, as that was where the controller really blew me away. Loved it on some platformers too. For shooters and some other types of games I felt I was faster with a pad like the M30 or a modded stick, so it wasnt my main pad, but the most enjoyable pad to use, feel wise. I found myself using it even when it wasnt optimal for certain games, for me.
For 35 bucks Im willing to replace them if I can get atleast 6 months of on and off use. Still kind of shitty, but I might be willing if it feels close enough to the original feel. Be nice if it actually lasts longer. One of my M30s lasted me about 2 years and probably over 500 games beaten, before the pad was basically crushed in with very undefined responses. So they are pretty durable too.
Still waiting for Saturn support on the Mister, but definately interested in checking it out. Too much input lag on Saturn emulation, especially for shooters.
@@theconsolekiller7113 I sure hope that it lasts longer than 6 months! The M30 has lasted me over 2 years and it's still going good with it. Hopefully it doesn't die on me anytime soon. Good
Saturn emulation on the MiSTer is something that I hope happens soon! That's one of the main reasons I keep going back to the Polymega (that, and the excellent Neo Geo CD emulation). Hopefully that's something that happens for the MiSTer sooner than later.
Nice. Hopefully it lasts you longer but atleast the M30 is cheap for a few years of use. When I was playing newer consoles heavily Id be lucky to get a year out of these analog controllers before getting stick drift.
I started embracing emulation heavily around 1999-2000. Sold all my old consoles and games when emulation was up to my standard. At the time I was hooking a PC with video out to a CRT and my stereo, though at the start I had a shitty PC and played some games on the CRT monitor with no sound, or running them too slow and using a very shitty gravis game pad. Things improved pretty quickly though. By 1999-2000 emulation for alot of older consoles was quite good, even PS1. So when it comes to the old games emulation is really the only method for me, as my collection is gone. Saturn is really the only thing that seems to have that input lag, for some reason. @@Sarumaru
@@theconsolekiller7113 Nice! I never dabbled in any PC emulation in the past. I was always a pretty hardcore console guy here. But nowadays that's changed with the Advent of tmsome new emulation consoles like the Evercade, Polymega, the Miyoo mini RetroPie and things like the MiSTer. And it's not because I was a purist or anything like that, it's just that I didn't like to tinker with stuff but now it's been made so easy. The only time in the past I really played the crap out of emulation was with the first Xbox which was an emulation powerhouse for the time! Ahhh those were good times :)
Look, I've had plenty of trips around the sun, and I was playing Neo-Geo games in an actual arcade, in the actual 1990s. Here's what I wanna know... is that clicky stick as good as the one on the Neo-Geo Pocket? Because that thing was checkmate in an argument about high quality controls on a portable. I'd like to play Neo-Geo Pocket again, but I can't do that on my Switch Lite because the D-pad is such a lost cause.
If the Neo-Geo Pocket had a controller that was absolutely perfect for fighting games, the Switch Lite has a controller that's absolutely miserable for everything. It sucks for fighting games, it sucks for arcade games, it sucks for VISUAL NOVELS, it sucks for every genre of video game currently in existence. It sucks so bad it even sucks for touchscreen games.
I'm not sure why I found your dismay for the Switch D-pad so humorous 😆 But yes. It sucks as§.
And no, the micro switches in this are definitely not as good as the ones you would find on a Neo Geo pocket and no where near as satisfying to use. With that said, it's still pretty solid. BUT, the Neo Geo mini pad set the bar SO LOW that I feel that even the smallest improvement is celebrated 😅 I do like this pad though and still recommend it even though it isn't as satisfying to use as the OG controller or NGP.
@@Sarumaru I just got one of these from Woot. It's all right, but the throw is massive... you can push the click stick a few millimeters in any direction and not have it actuate. This was not the case with the Neo-Geo Pocket, which was much more sensitive.
@@jessragan6714That's the difference between the pocket and the original CD controller
Love the “Korea Team” in KOF.
Nice! I LOVE Kim Kaphwan! 😊 Thanks for watching!
I wonder if it works on ps3?
Hi! It will work on PS3 but only if you have the 8bitdo bluetooth adapter 2 (20usd). It does not work with the provided adapter. Hotel that helps!
WTH
No screenfilter, scanlines or shadow mask
No 5x cropping?
Where is the NeoGeo CD core?
IKR?! What am I even doing with my life!! 😭😭😅
@@Sarumaru come on man. Get your shit together 😅
My life is in shambles! SHAMBLES I SAY