A Fair Deal In Exchange For Gnoses | Genshin Impact 3.2
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- Archon Quest Chapter III: Act V "Akasha Pulses, the Kalpa Flames Rises"
Kusanali traded her gnosis for knowledge.
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Nahida was in no position to save the gnosis' and still managed to squeeze the biggest secret of the world from this guy and force him to delete all of his smurf accounts.
What a Chad!
I wouldn’t say it’s the best biggest secret and he could also make more clones and maybe ever better ones if he decided he needed them
@@Usteo it's a massive secret known to a few that are alive currently, also he admits it's incredibly difficult to do so it stands to reason that he won't be able to do it soon, and to make them better would just take even longer
@@isdrakon9802 I don’t deny that and it is a big accomplishment
@@Usteo dottore already said it not easy and cheap to make those clone
And he also not intention to make them anymore
Smurf accounts 😂😂😂😂
I will never get tired of Dottore's English voice. It's just so fucking good. It conveys authority, danger, arrogance, and a bit of sass perfectly
Honestly it reminds me of Snape for some reasons hahahahaah
@@midorifirefly You wish for this piece of vital information? Turn to page THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY FOUR.
@@abohsukampret 😭😭
Honestly for me he kinda sound like zhongli but different
Sound like Ardyn in FFXV. And that’s guy took the stage everytime he appear
Having to give up two Gnoses sucks, but the alternative was for Nahida to futilely fight against the Second Harbinger and lose them anyway and maybe get us killed in the process. This way, not only is the Doctor's threat level severely cut due to losing all his clones for one Gnosis, but he had to give up critical information about the Descenders (and by extension, the Traveler's sibling) to get the other one.
Whether or not this was a good trade remains to be seen, but either way Nahida just did us a huge solid - and possibly more for us than the last three Archons combined. The Hydro Archon has some big shoes to fill.
honestly at this point i think all archons are lowkey supporting the tsaritsa lmao
@@atsuki18 yeah i agree, or at the very least are just not interested in really opposing her, since the archons we've seen so far don't really like Celestia either.
@@Doomfoolable yup but still think one of them would be a traitor tbh
Well it's highly difficult but not impossible, he can still create more versions of himself later if he wants, but it will surely make our future figth against him easier
I liked that Nahida brought the idea of destroying the Gnoses to bring forth a different entity and was willing to do so even as the goddess of wisdom. It peaked the Doctor's interest and seemed like it was information he hadn't heard before or confirmation by another archon.
Also Doctor erasing all the other perspectives/replicas is quite an interesting take. It can either be he actually erased all of them shown, or severed the connection between them. But it all came from the first Gnoses. There is a possibility the doctor could hide the 2nd Gnoses due to not having any peering eyes to study it as a scholar.
Lastly, It would be an interesting plot point to see one of the doctors replicas surviving perhaps having a contingency plan in case something like this occurred. Be an interesting test subject for the og Doctor to see a replica exceeding expectations.
(haven't played the story yet so all of this is just a fun take on a theory)
For someone who is the youngest archon, nahida sure is smart. She is also more helpful than other archons. Best archon
The other archon pretty much give up ruling after so long or just doing they own thing. Nahida on the other hand is JUST RELEASED from prison where's she was held there since birth. so she literally doing her best as a new archon for her people.
She is the god of wisdom for a reason
Zhongli is pretty strict about contracts w the traveller's sibling so he can't say anything about the missing sibling, he's a God of contract after all
Ei don't have any idea about the missing sibling as her attention was focus to her own sibling too. Idk about Venti but I do heard that he literally have no idea about the missing sibling and that he slept during the cataclysm or something idk, I forgot, Genshin's lore is big and I can't remember everything
We still have no f*cling clue what morax traded his gnosis for.
I want to bet that Dottore would continue to make other versions of himself and say something like "You said to only destroy them not stop making them"
I mean that's basically what he said he was going to do. Nahida just thought it'd be a fair trade because it's going to take him a lot of time and money and materials to make more
Dottore's clones were from different points in his life, younger and older. Dottore can't recreate those points in his life.
He literally said that, he believes he'll create better ones.
@@lilianne959 Not better ones, a better alternative to making himself a loophole around death. He admits making peace with himself is difficult, so he wants a way that requires less cooperation.
@@jaydraws0667 oh no, i would laugh if he choose Otto's Methods of using his clone to live and as his alternative body 🤣
As Nahida said, every Harbinger ranked 3 and onwards (Columbina, Docttore and Pierro) have power equal to that of a god, and Docttore, who have clones, means with enough resources and time he will only multiply in power. Nahida just single-handedly bought us information relating to the very essence of the world and the destruction of a god-tier enemy's greatest asset with two genosi. Judging by the fact that this is treated by many archon as less an artifacts of power and more of status and control, I think this is a very good deal.
d o c t o r r e
*Dottore
Roll the r, boys
Columbina, looks so harmless but is 3rd strongest harbinger shes so creepy and cool~!
@@helloimaperson3141 *3rd
dottore is 2nd. columbina is heavily implied to be the remaining seele who retained their beautiful form. the goddess of flower is also a seele. so its not far off to imagine columbina is equal to that of a god.
-Awaken the Heavenly Principles? Do you really think it's possible?
-Well fok around and find out, would we?
Welcome to fact or cap
Nahida just : Let me broke this Sh1t, and SEE what happen do U WANNA PLAY A GAME ARROGANT MOTHFCKER, Ja??? Mmmm what?
I can't listen to you?
Now u want negociante with a piece of cake?
Ok tea time ☕☕
@@pinakin67 throwback to 500 years ago...
💥
IM CRYINGG
We now have an established pattern for these Archon Quests.
Venti: Gets mugged and loses Gnosis
Zhongli: Trades Gnosis as a part of his retirement plan
Ei: Finds Gnosis useless and gives it to Yae, Yae gives it to Balladeer to save the Traveler, Nahida takes it from Balladeer at the end of his boss fight
Nahida: Bargaining chip to squeeze info out of Dottore and make him erase every one of his duplicates around Sumeru City, gives both her Gnosis and Ei's to Dottore
At this point, I'd be amazed if we met an Archon that actually values the damn thing aside from the Tsaritsa, of course.
Won't be surprised if hydro archon already gave hers.
@@visithk977 Since Pyro archon is God of War I think it will be different
@@captive8670 imo the pyro archon might not want it because i think. as the God of War, i think she would value her own strength and would rather rely on herself than an object that was given to her by celestia.
@@haill5541 i can see that. If she is that pridefull of a god then i can see that.
@@GGameBois_o7 most definitely, but I also think any human/deity with even a little bit of pride would be no different and rather be powerful on their own merit than rely on a gnosis/vision. Keqing is a good example of that.
This is first time we saw an event where the Traveller was out cold and only the audience can see it.
It's like Watching Yae Negotiate with Scaramouche while we were knocked out.
We witnessed Nilou’s PoV too.
U forgot about shenhe quest
I have a feeling MHY is setting us up for more of this type of situation as we near the end of Teyvat storyline
@@vermillionshadow6170 Granted. It seems Mihoyo has found a compromise hear.
Notice the Traveller was told what happened after He fell asleep. But Nahida didn't tell him about the fake skies. The same part we were cut from.
Looks like Mihoyo found a compromise between the Traveller perspective and everyone else.
Also a rare scene where we saw paimon on ground instead of floating in mid air
Dottore: Give me gnosis
Nahida: No
Dottore: Fake skies
Nahida: Okay
What? Explain the "fake skies"?
@@pappatill28barn88 the sky of Teyvat is *fake.*
@@pappatill28barn88ou know how irminsul apparently “grows upside down”, and ley lines are the roots of irminsul peaking through teyvat? Irminsul actually faces the normal way where khanreah and the abyss are while teyvat is facing upside down. The heavenly principles created a fake sky because you can’t rlly have a sky if you’re upside down 💀 the way irminsul grows is the place with the real sky. We have yet to know why they created the fake sky in the first place and why teyvat is facing upsidedown
@@Someone-dn2ivIt is because, Ishtaroth has been exhausted many years ago and reborn in the form of a seelie named Paimon. It's possible that we can revive Khaenri'ah and discover what really happened in cataclysm.
@@vladimirvladislavovichtira804Where did you get that theory from?
no one gonna talk about how paimon finally touches the ground
When you get the serenetea pot paimon says “we will finally be able to sleep somewhere other than a tent” or something like that
Probably meaning everytime you close the game, the traveler and paimon camp out and probably sleep
And if paimon needs to touch ground to sleep, then paimon touches ground everytime we close the game
@@gongerman9754 there was this quest (i think the chasm update with kuki) and she was sleeping midair (just stating, not trying to start an argument)
Also Itto was looking after her lol
@@lantatrine6486 yeah. I think paimon can sleep both in ground and in midair. Imo the float sleep might be similar to humans sleeping while standing/sitting
I was gonna say lol
In childs boss fight and his cutscene to phase 3. we see that paimon is buried under broken pieces of the floor that fell into the deeper floor. so basically paimon touches the ground allready there
Kudos to Dottore for keeping a straight face even after Nahida made him delete one of his greatest creation, the segments.
Chad dottore
Well, as hard as it is to make another segment, at least he *can make* them. However, according to Zhongli, “there is no such thing” as something that’s worth a gnosis. So trading the destruction of things that can be replaced for a 7-of-a-kind, irreplaceable artifact is always gonna benefit Dottore in the long run.
Woahhh did Nahida just threaten to destroy the gnosis?!?
Yes🤣
just my theory but with her power, i think she can trap dottore in a samsara and repeatedly try to negotiate with him so even if dottore rejects her proposal, she can always ask again in an endless loop. just my theory doe
false sky tho
@@atsuki18
So… Dottore, I’ve come to bargain?
@@atsuki18 Izanami.
Dottore gave up when Nahida threatened to destroy the Gnosis and risked waking up the Heavenly Principles......And mind you, Dottore is top 3 Harbingers, those who were speculated to have the ability to fight toe to toe against Archons. If Dottore feared waking up the Heavenly Principles.......
This means Heavenly Principles is a force too much to be handled by anyone in Teyvat. And even his/her Sustainer is too strong against full power Travelers during the opening cutscene.
I think it was the fear of disobeying his own Archon that held him back more than the Heavenly Principles.
Heavenly principles is too strong right now,. Thats why Tsaritsa is collecting 7 gnoses to face them. So the priority is to get all the gnoses no matter what,
@@edwardsparks7860 I don't think that would work either.
Don't worry bro... In the end our MC will be the New god who will rule the entire teyvat and celestia , and killed the primordial one 🤣
@@aryaa.h.9665 Celestia / Heavenly Principles are "the second who came" (second throne), not Phanes the Primordial God who created Teyvat
5:20 Nahida threating the harbinger is really so bad ass xD
It's really good character development for her. She couldn't speak up before, and she's a bit more soft spoken, but seeing her really threaten him was soo cool
well achons is more powerful than harbingers anyway.
@@lucidare Nahida said it herself that Dottore is much uptop her level
@@lucidare No, they are not.
@@lucidare the top 3 are stronger than the archons
Conversation in a nutshell:
“Heyo can I have that gnosis?”
“Over your dead bodies”
“Deal”
Let me just give another gods gnosis to the fatuu
LMFAO why is this actually true XDD
Lmaooo
Never truer words have been said
Lmfao Dottore really did ASMR on Traveler
*soft whispering*
Go to hell b**ch, I will take the two gnoses from the stupid vegetable child now
*aggresive snoring*
Actually he just makes as sleep
Not as bad La signora plans to kill us
And now he’s doing ASMR on us with his sinister voice.
@@mystery8820 fr
Venti: made fun of a harbinger
Zhongli: made a deal with a harbinger
Raiden: killed a harbinger
Nahida: played mind games with one harbinger and bluffed another harbinger
I wonder how the other archons are gonna deal with the fatui 🧐
Focalor: put them on trial
I ruined the 69 likes
focalor: jail :(
Murata : Declare war with all of the harbingers at once 😂
@@jazzandfunkequalsjunk179 Signora : Bruh. Let me rest.
At 11:36, Dottore mentions that Teyvat's skies are fake, dating back to the 'Unreconciled Stars' Event in 1.1. Did anyone else notice that?
Yes! Thank you! Finally someone else noticed that too. Plus after experiencing the dream Scaramouche said that the stars and the sky is a lie. But what does that mean? That the sky and stars managed to deceive even Mona’s scrying glass. But I do wonder: is the world either trapped by Celestia, creating a dome like place that trapped the gods and those that worshipped them at the time and what the Archon’s war truly was is: to take the Gnosis and to gain power to break free from this prison. But I dont think every god knew the purpose of the Gnosis and saw it as “to gain power and status.” But they were so wrong, doing that would cause them to continue the never ending prison.
But something else important: the Abyss. Why is the Abyss the way it is. I believe khaenri'ah was the first and last ljne of defence, aka the weak spot of the dome and as a result the gods would constantly be at war alongside the humans. But the war grew too long snd thus civilisation decided to develop their technology, intelligences to the highest level they could to create automatons. That explains the huge sizes of the 2 ruin guards we seen in Sumeru and why they are scattered throughout the world. And then the final line of defence broke down and the gods were dispatched to khaenri'ah. But as for why the Abyss is expressed the way it is: I believe that it is the only way for it to be expressed in that way. Celestia must be the mainframe from where Teyvat is being imprisoned and such it has ‘rules’ where there is stuff that can/cant happen and the Abyss aka the outside world’s energy has no choice but to be express in such a manner, plus if the Gods of Celestia are the opposite of the outside energy of the world: then that means its their weak spot.
I noticed that too and just groaned "Ugh not you too" because all it does is make me wear my tin foil hat for the rest of the Archon quests
Of coz. Too bad for players that play after 1.1 and i dun understand why that is an event story quest
@@thebakalord I was wondering that maybe the reason why Celestia destroyed Khaenriah is because they possibly realized their farce and declared war against them?
My guess is that the 2 giant ruin guards we found in Sumeru were meant to destroy the fake sky to prove their point, and Celestia basically silenced them and used the Archons as a cover.
He said far more than that
Ok but how bad is the heavenly principals/unknown god that even The Doctor with all that huburis wouldn't risk awakening her?
She is that woman from the start that cubed the twins
Powerful enough to make both venti and zhongli keep their mouth shut.
She’s the demiurge 😈
@@ianesgrecia8568 YES AND THEN IN THE FUTURE WE WILL OR NEW CHARACTERS WILL PROBS AWAKE HER TO FORCE US TO BATTLE HER :,)
heavenly principles are powerful enough to take all 7 Archons
Her alone that's how powerful is asmosday so no one dares to stand agains her.
The trade may be weird to some, but to be honest, she's the only archon that actually went her way to give us the information we've been asking for ages ago. Surprisingly, I think she's the most badass archon not in a combative way but in a clever and tactical way
True, Nahida is the only one who *REALLY* helped us 🥺🤧
The only archon that Deinslef does not dislike.
@@angelsadventure4996really?
Who wanna bet that in Fountain we are going to:
- have problems with the law and become a runaway outlaw
- meet an arcon that will have no money whatsoever
- Find and fight another new Fatui Harbenger
- See the arcon give another gnosis to the fatui on a silver plater
At this point this things have become tradition for every new nation
One of these times,
I bet their archon will actually be dead and replaced by a fake
This would be an amazing twist for the tsaritsa
Also , in the teyvat trailer the fontaine archon seems loyal to the heavenly principles so i think the "giving the gnosis in a silver platter" is a 50/50 chance
If Focalors is broke as well-
Focalors may be just absolute justice on anyone
Well, not before we meet Dainsleif and another Twin stirring up problems again.
Dottore's segments have always freaked me out, especially when it was revealed he made them from ALL of his ages and his status as the Second of the Eleven. Meaning, that they'll be able to strike from the most unsuspecting places and there are more #2 Harbingers than there are Harbingers. So Dottore removing them for the time being is a bit relieving.
I think he get nerfed so his rank become 3
@@diaochan7506 Doubtful, especially since he's going to create more segments.
@@adamtruong1759 and I think Dottore will be world boss on next region.. From 8-6-4 must be nunber 2
@@diaochan7506 Maybe, but that Fatui wheel of the Harbingers hasn't been wrong so far, which would mean that Columbina of all people would be next.
9:37 - Translations of Dottore's other segments:
SUCH AN ABSURD DECISION
YOU MUST BE IN JEST
FOOLISH CHOICE
HOW COULD I BE SHORT SIGHTED THEN
FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN EVEN BETRAY HIMSELF
WHATEVER
LETS HOPE THAT YOU ARE WORTHY OF SUCH A CHOICE
WAIT NOT LIKE THIS
THIS WILL NOT BE THE END OF IT
I SHALL SEEK REVENGE
YOU WILL REGRET THIS
i'm pretty sure i heard "you cunt!"
Thankx
If you can translate it then i guess it could be arab language or india language 🤔
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 teyvat language then to latin then to our language
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 "India language" 💀
She got information on the entire world, destroyed high value clones, stole a Harbinger, threatened a Harbinger who is far stronger than her, AND saved her nation. Nahida is the goat
So basically
Cryo : Already had it from the beginning
Anemo : Stolen
Geo : Contract
Electro : Trade
Dendro : Trade
I think for the other
Hydro : Trade/Contract since she is God of Justice
Pyro : Battle, since she is God of War
For hydro I suppose she would have been found guilty of a crime (just a guess) and her judgement is giving up the gnoses
If the Pyro one is true, we probably getting Capitano Vs Murata
Hydro Archon doesn't want to be enemies with Celestia so nope
@@catmixo Lol you think Zhongli and Nahida want to
@@Darkry_Obv no matter what happens
I just pray hoyo won't put himeko 2.0 in natlan
this guy is one of the scariest villain in the game, and Nahida was able threaten him. She's so brave.
Not only that, he was ranked 2nd in power, only behind Peirro himself. If Dottore is scary, then Peirro is gonna be a living nightmare! We already had to fight the 11th(Tartaglia), 8th(Signora) and 6th(Scaramouche) Harbingers and barely came out of those fights alive!
@@Jarock316Apparently, Signora wasn’t any trouble at all, given her words and the Traveler’s body language after the fight. I’d expect someone who barely got out of a fight alive to be unable to stand properly, let alone flex on their opponent and then immediately prepare to throw hands at a literal god
@@Jarock316this is actually surprising but pierro isn’t actually in the ranks of the harbingers, in fact he’s not even a harbinger, he’s the director of the harbingers! (proof of this is in the description of the fatui reveal teaser) leaving the 1st spot to captiano, from what lore has pointed to.
Or INCREDIBLELY STUPID.
The wisest, bravest, resourceful archon is also the tiniest
yae miko = 500 year old adult
scaramouche = 500 year old teen
nahida = 500 year old kid
Because Grandpa archon should be over 5000 years DongZong is 7000+ years he is still grandpa in eyes of Archon
scaramouche is a puppet, yae miko is a fox or something and nahida is an archon, so that's like saying that there's a 18 years old human and 118 years old vampire, they don't use the same year age due to different species
@@poppy4207 Yae Miko is the successor of the Fox God Hakushin.. Look at Yae headpiece.. It symbolic as divinity..
I feel like since the gnosis is a connection to the heavenly principles and the archons hardly care about them, the gnosis isn't exactly that important for them. However, I wonder if the same would be true to the hydro archon
I doubt archons would have fought for the 7 seats if they didnt care about the gnosis. I dont see the archons giving up power freely like that. Venti is the only sus one right now.
@@zukodude487987 the gnosis doesn't give a power boost tho or at least not a big one to the archons and other gods, described as being an amped-up vision by venti, the anemo gnosis could change the weather, the geo gnosis allowed the holder to make mora, the electro gnosis made "puppets" and the dendro gnosis created and was the only reason the akasha terminal was functional, the 7 seals were likely just dominion over each element since they archons don't need them to use their respective elements.
got me questioning who or what decides who gets a vision tho
@@mikhailabraham421 And yet even with a gnosis the archons dont dare to fight em. Besides gnosis she can summon summon magic cube tentacles and drop nails from the sky that can permanently change the environment.
@@zukodude487987 ik you're talking about the unknown god, she most likely doesn't have her own gnosis, having ties with Celestia directly besides, a situation like this follows anime logic, making all descenders, including the traveler the most powerful beings in Teyvat
but what do you mean nail from the sky they said it came from Celestia but I don't remember the game specifying the unknown god did it, could be another descender idk
@@mikhailabraham421 "the gnosis doesn't give a power boost tho or at least not a big one" Dude... Have you played the quest?
The gnosis were the only thing that gave Nahida the power to actually save everyone. The 'power' of a gnosis is not restricted to these things because an arcon chooses to do so. Just as an example, The Great Lord had her gnosis for centuries before creating the akasha and use the gnosis power to gather the dreams. Just because the grass is green don't mean that everything that is green is also grass
Dottore: give me gnosis
Nahida: no. trade.
Dottore: no. *Knife*
Nahida: *I WILL CALL GOD TO SMITE YOUR VERY FUCKING SOUL.* trade.
Dottore: Ok.
6:00 Nahida is one of the most down to earth and small character but she was still able to look down on Dottore with a cold look.This is as terrifying as Smiling Diluc
This is why you won’t win against her unless you can see through her mind games 😂
@@MysteriousFuturein short summary, outsmart her but Bro probably can see the lies fr
The most smarter character, she is still a nee child Archon but has excellent intelligence and wisdom.
Since Nahida willingly gave both the genosis, she must be indirectly supporting the tsaritsa's plan same as venti and zhongli
Venti didnt willingly give it to the fatui, they forcefully took it from him. And Nahida did kind of trade it for really crucial information and get rid of all of his clones, so even though nahida did indirectly help, she definitely did a very important thing lore wise and it will help us on our journey. I csnt say much about zhongli though because i didnt pay attention then..
@@venti2569 venti is stronger than La Signora he let her take the Gnosis
@@lordpeanut150 oh yeah my bad then
@@venti2569 in the cutscene you can see that his hair and eyes didn't glow. that is, he did not use his powers. remember that he is very appreciated by all mondstat, so his power must be tremendous
@@Luke-cb3ly ik someone else pointed it out i started genshin a while ago so i dont remember that that well sorry abt that
Nahida the whole time was just like “fuck around and find out” and I am so here for it
I don't mind her giving out her own gnosis
But what I am mad about is the fact that they didn't show the Dendro Gnosis' design and just fucking slap black screen at us 😭😭😭
one would guess that the Gnoses are similar in design: small cylindrical object with elemental symbol on top, colored with respective element...so like the Electro Gnosis, but green and with the Dendro symbol on top.
@@eternasapphiremoon81I guess what the original comment wanted to know is what chess piece the dendro gnoses represented
@@ishaanchoudhury6135 I didn't think they were chess pieces?
@@eternasapphiremoon81 yeah like Geo gnoses is the rook, electro is the knight and anemo being the queen
@@ishaanchoudhury6135 I never got that impression from the Gnoses.
Now that I think about it if Nahida did went through with destroying the gnosis then she basically subjected not just Dotore but the entirety of Sumeru to the Heavenly Principles.
Sending a little pillar down bwuahahaha
she knows, or can see limits of a Sumerian like Dottore
*Casually Approach Childe
I can't help but feel like it's just the Traveler getting their ass kicked in most cutscenes despite how the fight actually went for us. Their journey is truly a bruh moment.
Dottore be like, "Nahida, I've come to bargain."
5:58 damn how can a cute voice sounds so intimidating? kudos to the VA
The times dottore repeatedly say the "as a scholar"💀
i had to pause whenever he says that and inability to not cringe everytime
"As a scholar" - 🤓
@@Leshy_ it was not cringy at all
Despite being one of the weakest and inexperienced archon, she still managed to fend of one of the most feared Harbingers and squeeze out important intel from him. Not only that she also made him destroy all his other potentially dangerous clones and she did all that by just talking with him.
A true queen queen indeed
Yes she is still new and inexperience on battle but still can threaten Harbringer no. 2 ..
They need to remember that Nahida never go outside and do a battle..other Archon surelh can beat Dottore easily.
Everyone giving praise to nahida.
But is no one gonna talk how he managed to get both electro and dendro gnosis without even fighting
I know I'm late, but also the fact that he even anticipated there being a conversation and realized that killing her and the Traveler probably would have caused him a lot more trouble than it would ever be worth.
@@shimsokshim2995He can not kill new Dendro Archon, she will use the power of dream samsara and wake the traveler boost traveler power of wisdom to know Dottore weakness.. Because Nahida never do a battle directly so she need the help of traveler..
Is this the first time Paimon has touched the ground in a cutscene?!
Nah she touched the ground in Childe boss fight already. Fall from above down with MC
Edit: ohh and the time we first met Raiden, got our asss beaten and paimon touched ground to wake us up
9:28 remember that scene when nahida reached out to scaramouche as he recalls when he was put in a dream?
What if nahida pulled the same trick on the doctor. He is after all responsible for the cascade of events as stated in this scene. Possibly going thru 168 dream cycles as nahida extracts wisdom(knowledge) from him.
Nah he knows her powers and wouldve taken precautions. Plus in the chance that the trick doesnt work, dottore will just kill her
Bruhh u really underestimated the power from the doctor... He could have killed her if he wanted... But he put a respect on her because she is A GOD OF WISDOM
@@aryaa.h.9665 And if nahida destroys one gnosis, the whole plan of take the gnosis is completely ruined
@@mariojavier3213 I am here talking aboutr power not gnosis bruhh
@@aryaa.h.9665 Yea xd
another archon who willingly gave away their gnosis. bruh the Tsaritsa can just ask the archons at this point STOP STIRRING UP TROUBLE XD
if the heavenly principles is still active, flat-out asking for each gnosis and every archon just complying would seem extremely sus
She did. She asked Zhongli for this gnosis. And they made a contract for it
What is better, to be ruled by an oppressive and dictatorial higher beings that set absurd rules plus all things on teyvat are forbidden to seek Celestia's origin
or
Gather up 7 Gnosis, that acted as a representatives of Heavenly Principles, and invoke the wrath of the Gods so there will be another massive-scale war in order for mortals to prevail?
@@mikhailabraham421 but Nahida mentioned they had been silent for a while and they could be awakened, possibly meaning the heavenly principles might be asleep
@@ianesgrecia8568 she didn't exactly ask, but helped him to see whether Liyue is self-sustainable and made an additional contract
11:35 that is also the same thing scara said in the Unreconciled Stars event (Scaramouche: "The star, the sky... It's all a gigantic hoax. A lie.")
the reason by far why Nahida is my favorite arhon
that's not fair because they didn't show which chess piece is the DENDRO GNOSIS
"I" left Sumeru and "I" also stayed in Sumeru!
my brain: *YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT ME OFF*
i feel like the gnosis is not very important to the archons. yes, it’s a symbol of power, but if they already have the capabilities of gods what more does the gnosis provide other than status? if nahida’s hunch about the heavenly principles was correct, i wonder what the cryo archon is planning to do, or planning to unleash when she finally gets all the gnoses, and i wonder if the other archons will support her in that endeavor. they probably will since they have some sort of animosity against celestia. this is all really exciting and i think what nahida got was very valuable, we got so much more information than in the other three nations. brilliant storytelling in sumeru so far, and we’ve still got dainsleif quests too
I think Tsarista want Destroyed All Genosis on same Time, like Nahida Said Genosis is their (Heavenly Principals) Simbol they rules all Teyvat and By Destroyed all Genosis in same Time its make Heavenly Principals already not rules Teyvat, well I don't know what Damage will take by Heavenly Principals if all Genosis destroyed in same time but I think that was Tsarista plan to collection all Genosis.
Zhonglis gnosis-> Creates Mora.
Raiden's Gnosis -> Controls the weather making it thunder
Nahida's Gnosis -> Powers the Akasha system
Venti's Gnosis -> Still not sure lol.
It is a symbol of their archon status but at the same time, they all have a certain task they can fulfil.
@@luka9911 100% confirmed, Cryo Archon wanna mora, sun days and internet lol
Until Unknown God slaps her to none
@@luka9911 Zhongli can create mora without a gnosis tho. His name is literally Morax and that has been his name since even before being an archon
Fatui want to create another version of Heavenly Principles to show the true color of Teyvat since they're in underworld of Celestia.
And how would they do that?
@@Queenjeanie dottore will gather up all the power of gnosis and combine them all as one .
Why they collect gnosis
Do you think ?
If they don't think with all gnosis
Combine they rival heavenly principle's power but ithink later on
Every archon will forced to fight along side with Tsaritsa becuz
Heavenly principle slay
Also the love ones of some archons.
Such as Ei ,nahida ,zhongli ,
I doubt venti on the other hand.
The cryo archon must have some grudge against celestia
Celestial must have do something really bad about this so called Tsaritsa that she rebelled.
And create fatui harbingers.
@@Queenjeanie They create Delusion, a puppet god-tier, and one of them is Archon so for sure they have an idea on how to make a replica of Heavenly Principles since Nahida says Gnosis has the same value to call HP.
@@k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 asmoday drags
@@relaximillion archons are the weakest among the celestial gods tho and plus we have asmoday who guards celestia
Unbelievable. We got the Electro Gnosis back, just to have it given away again... Man, every time we thought we had a sure victory, the Fatui always beat us to it!
Ei has no need for it even if we had it back.
Traveler's main objective is to find his sister, not to beat Fatui and Tsaritsa. The gnosis conflict isn't our problem whatsoever. And considering how the story goes so far, we might end up helping Tsaritsa with her plan at some point.
Well considering what the fatui are doing it seems like what they r doing is right
Even zhongli and venti knows it too but they're keeping it a secret
it's dangerous to keep. Nahida does not want the electro gnosis to stay in Sumeru.
@@JemCel03 Better it to be locked away somewhere, than in the Fatui's hands.
Knowing that the top 3 Harbinger possess power equal to a God makes Columbina all the more ominous.
That, and if I'm not mistaken, this probably the first bit of concrete info we have about Asmoday since the first cutscene of the game. So apparently she's in a slumber, the gnosis, or more than one, breaking could wake her up, even the Harbingers are weary of her, and she's an isekai character like the traveler
So it's possible that Asmoday is "The Second Who Came" and Alice may be "The Third", which leaves the Traveler as the "Fourth and Final".
@@kevinkaslana9060 And who was the first one? Aloy?
No, if anything, Thanes has to be "The Primordial One", as he's the one who created Teyvat. Aloy is seen more like an outsider, even though she's able to understand most of the technology that came with Khaenri'ah.
@@kevinkaslana9060 not all otherworlder are Descender, only specific.. Alice is not Descender..
I was cheering for her all the way through during this!
I don’t care if the Doctor got the Gnosis, my little girl was also roasting the shit out of him!
Dottore: Gimme Gnosis
Nahida: Nah i'll pass
Dottore: The sky is a lie because of tree
Nahida: Holy shit, take this already
How ironic
For being the God of Wisdom, she is the avatar of the Tree that lies with the False Sky
@@afellowhuman8944And is protecting Irmin from being corrupted by the Abyss...
@@afellowhuman8944uh oh...not another 15-to-16-minute theory video with suspense background music
This whole conversation was an icing on the cake that was sumeru arc
I have a gut feeling that the fatui would create a scandal and play a victim role in the big scandal case in fontaine as to gain a gnosis from focalors in exchange of justice. And i think focalors will have to give them her gnosis cause as what we've seen so far, a lot of these archons hold their principle really strictly and focalors value absolute justice. So even if it was the fatui, i think she'll still grant the justice they "deserved"
Quote on quote “deserved”? 🤨 How sussy of an excuse I expect to hear from Focalors…
This is really interesting to read now. I wonder if having Childe imprisoned is part of their scandal case? Then again, we haven't seen Arlecchino yet, and she's supposed to play the biggest role in Fontaine. I'm hyped to see what will happen.
Wait so did all that stuff from 500 years ago happen because the people of khaenriah destroyed a gnosis?
Interesting theory.
Nahida said it was a bluff afterwards
@@BiBiren it was, but there should be some chance of that actually happening, otherwise Dottore wouldn't fall for it
Wait, isn't it confirmed that Khaenri'ah has no god? Maybe the heavenly principles destroy their nation because they didn't participate on the archon war.
Plus, the heavenly principles might be eyeing on that nation for too long and has seen that Khaenri'ah is far more advance to other nations and can possibly destroy the balance of Teyvat that's why the nation got destroyed by the Archons themselves. They see the nation as a threat.
@@BiBiren But she did say it was a 'gamble' so really the possibility is still there that even the doctor dared not to.
I nearly closed my game after hearing Nahida say that. That had me SHOOK. For the youngest god, she is extremely smart.
I really feel like the fatui is just one big red herring until the real enemy shows. Even tho some of the harbingers are just total nutcases
it must be given to him, because tsaritsa need all of gnosis for revenge to the celestia. If its not given, then the story only short walk.
now we know, venti didnt fight back after his gnosis was taken, zhongli gave his gnosis as contracted, Yae gave away Raiden's gnosis in exchange for traveler's life, and now nahida gave up 2 gnoses in exchange for info, what they all have in common is that the archons did not particularly care about the gnosis considering the gnosis is what connects them to celestia so it shoulda been important more than anything else. Also harbingers stirring trouble everywhere so at this point just gotta wait and see which harbinger will cause trouble in Fontaine hhehehe
well i think in Fontaine it'll be Dottore again (maybe boss fight). Perhaps Sandrone (Marionette) or Pulcinella will be in Fontaine too. (these two have high chance cuz Pulcinella will probably knows how to deal with lawyers and manipulate them. well, i mean i know he's a mayor of Snezhnaya but...he can visit Fontaine.) and why Sandrone? because she creates machines and puppets which kinda fits to Fontaine, because it probably have a ,,Steampunk,, topic.
@@hannavahan1652 i don’t think dottore have interest with city of justice
Justice to him could be just a stupid concept 🤷🏻♂️
@@vietcuongnguyenle8530 who knows! maybe he will appear. that depends how Hoyoverse will make it.
Venti didn't fight back because he *COULDN'T*. Reminder, they just got through curing Dvalin before the Fatui made their move, and that probably took alot out of Venti.
@@Jarock316 yea yea i get you
5:59 why am I trembling in this scene ?!!
Bro, *_I_* was shaking when she said that, too! I was like "Wait, what did she just say?!"
Nahida deserves more then shes given by this fandom frfr
They have a character nicknamed 'The Doctor' and he seeks to wield power over time itself
Interesting
Now this is a bigger deal than among the 2 other pass archon ei dont care about her gnosis. Afterall
Ok now i really wanna know how this whole genshin story gonna end like i wanna know if fatui's plan even worked and it triggers the heavenly principals... I wanna know their reaction after awakening disaster catastrophe or basically the end of teyvat at the end.
Same. But part of me is thinking what will happen to the game after the story ends? Will it become just an open world RPG with events to keep players playing? Or a new story awaits lol.
@@darvinoschannel9826 I bet new story. It would feel weird if it will ever end. And even if it will, I'll bet they'll still find something for us to do with all that world at their disposal (like helping npcs, discovering forgotten stories from the past etc).
everyone gangsta before nahida says "the data completion is almost complete"
she’s the only archon who negotiated w the fatui to give us some info on our sibling. that was really sweet of her
yea i never knew if she gave up her gnosis cause she never agreed to anything nor was it implied he just said he wanted it
The Doctor erasing his other selves is so weird. Why introduce such an amazing and weird power *just* for the sake of a minor misdirect? I mean, the only role this power played was in faking his exit from Sumeru. But the story didn't depend on that. We barely know why, but we don't know *how* at all. And it's already over. But apparently it was "extraordinarily difficult to create, requiring extremely rare resources etc", but he can just undo it with a thought? Why is it so easy for him to eliminate all his segments? What's the consequence of this? Did all his other selves just vanish? What were they doing? Did each segment actually have its own physical body or were they all just a form of (instantly treatable) split personality disorder? It's almost like one writer introduced this idea, then another writer took over and didn't know what to do with it, so just wrote it back out. Very weird.
That said, Nahida daring him to gamble on awakening the Heavenly Principles was bad arse. Also, the Doctor's voice acting is great.
He mentioned something afterwards, “Youre *temporarily* ahead of me” (to Nahida), he may be able to reproduce them a little sooner, what Nahida did was to probably cripple him for now, being he is no.2, he may do disservice to other nations as well
@@midorifirefly Yeah, maybe the writer realized they dug too deep there, having an army of the Doctor forces you as a writer to incorporate him in many future archon quests. He'll definitely rebuild another one of two.
I like how nahida was open with us and told us almost everything. Best archon as she actually helped us.
Take a shot eveytime Dottore says he's a scholar
The Doctor used Conquerors Haki 😂
Nahida writes her next book: The Art of the Deal ;O
cant believe this was 1 year ago
i like how the traveler is just asleep while they talk
5:35 nahida gives a warning to the fatui that gathering all the gnosis have consequences And there's no turning back bc they might need it to open a wormhole to the home of heavenly principals but this might also get attention to abyss order lead by the abyss princess bc after aether almost kills lumine shes badly wonded but still alive we dont here from her for awhile until the time we to sheznaya this happens ua-cam.com/video/zTmTmSS9Pr8/v-deo.htmlsi=jVcs3DkIJj0n5yf9
Abyss princess had become the alpha abyss A large snake like creature that is twice the size of beisht and cause havoc across sheznaya and have all the gnosis have gathered and abyss order are in full force and brought a massive army to teyvat and alpha abyss is powering the wormhole to bring in something is none other than herrscher of the end from ggz and brings in a massive warship to help abyss order restoration of khaneri'ah. Back in sheznaya dansleif found video in Fatui vault and that says this ua-cam.com/video/0Lxtmr7W-Pk/v-deo.html
The Fatui knew there gonna be fcked by the abyss order and not to tell the harbingers about it
So, in conclusion, this is just my speculation That Fatui already sealed their fate by gathering all the gnosis unaware this will attract attention to abyss order
I don't understand why everyone was so upset Nahida gave them away, it's literally the grand plan of the Tsaritsa, if you hope one of them can't be brought to her then might as well ask Genshin to roll the credits 🤣🤣
Not only that, but if push came to shove, and Dottore had no other choice, he would possibly take it by force, and he easily could being the 2nd Harbinger. Nahida did the right thing here, got knowledge and got Dottore to get rid of his clones. That is what makes her smarter than the other Archons.
This convo hits way different now that we have an approximate age on Dottore.
I guess that we somehow will get the Pyro Gnosis and will give it to a fatuus harbinger on purpose only in Shneznaya (if the Pyro Gnosis aren't already give to the Tsarita a long ago, wich is a plausible thing at this point)
this electro gnosis gonna have its own economy, things getting traded around like a pokemon card.
Dottore: “I’m going to kick your butt!”
Nahida: “I’m calling Mom!”
Bruh I'm wheezing 😂👌🏻
Venti: Ow, my Gnosis!
Zhongli: Here's my Gnosis. I'm retired.
Ei: Oh, that? Sure, whatever.
Nahida: Tell me what I want to know or I'll destroy it.
Focalors: Guilty.
Murata: *cracks knuckles*
Maybe Signora directly borrow Cryo Archon magic so Venti feet is frozen.. Anemo weak to Cryo.
Just as big as the deal zhongli made and he already knows what's going on and now so does nahida
Dottore: give me your gnosis
Nahida: don't be greedy
Dottore: how about the sky is fake
Nahida: source?
Dottore: Trust me bro.
Skirk: If you hold that Gnosis, then it'll cause Misfortunes on to you and your nation.
@@vladimirvladislavovichtira804she isn't wrong. We still don't know a lot about the third descender though.
I'm worried the Doctor gave Nahida some forbidden knowledge
As petty I am, I would be like: do it then cause you ain't gonna persuade me I think tf not. Its either you give me the genosis or you break and call the heavenly principles. if I'm gonna be honest I wanna see that happen or I take it myself and might break it
For some reason it feels like the Dottore segment who said “You will regret this” might be survive some how
Maybe in future, II Dottore vs Dottore..
Its crazy how they introduced something that went over all our heads.
The doctor has clones of himself in different timelines.. which means different versions of yourself can co exist in the current timeline if you know how to… which also means you can talk to yourself before and after and stuff…
Lots of things to unravel just from him telling us this
Our sibling is written in the world of teyvat- appeared in keanriah, perhaps it's a clone of us- our memories having been altered maybe?
he didn't say they were from diferent timelines, he said they are versions of his from diferent points of his life, like imagine having a clone but instead of thinking and acting like you do he thinks and acts like did ten years ago. That way he can get many diferent perspectives of things at once.
Nahida is about that life! She really was going to let sh*t happen! Bluff or not
Venti: Braids didnt glow and the gnosis got taken by Signora
Zhongli: Fr just GAVE the gnosis since there wasnt any use for it
Ei: her son took it secretly
Nahida: Add. Add. Over. Under. Accept.
💀💀💀
Zhongli was just tired tbh.
He is one of the oldest individuals of Teyvat, even older than Baal/Ei or Venti/Barbatos.He experienced wayy too many things over the course of time. And moreover he is also suffering from Erosion.
Hence it's logical for him to step down as Liyue's archon & give up the Gnosis.
Moreover the Gnosis is pretty much useless and serves just one purpose for Archons. In case of Venti, it gave him strength to build the New Mondstat, for Zhongli it was just a coin minting machine, for Ei it just let her create the puppets while for Nahida its just the fuel for Akasha terminal.
to me in hoyo they don't know yet what dottore's future will be, his last role in this story, but for sure it wont end before the last region or tsarisa
im very curious to see
Genshin story: arrive to a new nation, be an errand boy, meet the archon, the fatui arrives, hand in the gnosis to the fatui, get out of the nation, repeat
Maybe the tsaritsa collecting all of the gnosis will give her strength on par with the Unknown God(sustainer of hevaenly principles) and give her the power to defeat her....but who knows....or maybe it makes her a higher being? Or maybe it will give her the authority over Celestia? I'm gonna give myself brain damage trying to guess😮💨
I'm quite supportive of The Doctor's theory that the skies of Teyvat are fake.
Either that or the gods of Teyvat are like the ones from Love and Thunder, thinking they're safe from danger in their "heaven".
I don't know if you ever did Enkanomiya.
Vishap are original inhabitants of Teyvat.
Primordial One came and defeat the Seven Sovereign Dragons. Primordial One then build Human Civilization. After some years The Second who Came found itself in Teyvat, fought the Primordial One and won dethroned it.
The Second who Came is kinda heavily implied that is the Heavenly Principles itself.
nahida negotiating with dottore is like the courier confronting legate lanius with 100 speech and 10 charisma
im thinking its gonna be war again in pyro archon quest and the enemy is 3 highly ranked fatui its gonna be amazing and maybe the last arc is all all the archon, the twin traveler will figth together the unknown god that fatui is trying to summon, maybe the fatui need all the gnosis to achieve that or the unknown god is become angry again coz the arrogant of mankind is starting again(fatui) thats why an all out war will began , anyways its just my theory..
Dottore is slowly sounding like Albert Wesker sooner or later.
I try to hear it normally. But I can't, it feels like Albert Wesker possessed him.