It is easy to say this, but if you pull the main fuse/turn off the isolator, one can see a visual disconnect, and the temptation is to just ASSume, it's easy to judge, but sh*t happens. It's making our life more dangerous
I realised the potential consequences of unqualified work first hand the other day, when replacing a neighbours imploded light switch. For whatever reason I decided to remove the broken bits of face-plate _before_ isolating the circuit, with the inevitable result the rocker unexpectedly sprang out of the socket leaving a known live contact staring right at me. 😳 Yeah, ran right for the DB and threw the lighting circuit off at that before continuing the repair¹ and at least thought to test for zero voltage before carrying on. Still can't understand what in Thors name caused me to start _before_ isolating though, especially with my strong aversion to live working... 🤔 (¹ - Thankfully, a typical SPST switch replacement - And having _some_ confidence could not (In good conscience) leave the previous switch in such a dangerous condition when I had the tools and the means to do the job and at least make safe. Did the best I could, but neighbour's been advised to have the next visiting qualified electrician check it for safety and compliance all the same.)
Never forget a story a contractor told me years ago. When he started working he asked someone if a socket was dead to which they replied "yes." He cut the cable which then went bang. " I thought you said it was dead." He said. To which the other responded. " Rule number 1 always test first, no matter what anyone says...."
We have 5 step rule in safety in Latvia: 1. Turn off power to circuit 2. Block switches or disconnectors to prevent accidental energising. Put up informative signs on disconnectrs. 3. Test circuits for energy absence. 4. Short to ground circuits you will work ok. 5. Isolate area from unauthorised personal. So, in a normal situation, electrican would have been stopped at step 3. We also have live work regulations and certifications but we try to do as little live work as possible.
I attended a working platform course at RBAC... Years later I was installing a conduit in a wall, up scarily high and volunteered to remove an old section of flue pipe for the customer especially since it was in my way and would only take a few minutes. I underestimated its weight, slipped sideways and fell! My safety harness stopped me, no injuries but I was left dangling in space with no means of going up or down. Rang my wife and she rescued me using the ground controls. So now when up a platform I dangle a bit of thick rope to the ground so I can climb back up! They didn't teach me that on that course!
You are right to point out the danger of a bypassed isolator, obviously. A helpful reminder for anyone not yet aware is to always assume live until proven otherwise, initially by a radio or light remaining on, for example. This is especially the case since PV solar systems, etc can backfeed the circuit. A mains indicator lamp would seem a sensible feature on any consmer unit or domestic installation.
There are two points of failure here 1. People choosing to break the law 2. Horrific pricing and economical mismanagement from our government and energy providers . There is no reason as to why energy now costs so much .record profits = record prices .
We should report to the gods if they are loosing money but we are not worthy to remove a fuse to save our lives. We should have our own seals with our own member number on so that we can check and report. All seals would then be traceable and engineers safe.
Working Live is not an issue with those alrdy in the knowing & capable of doing so; the issue is that any electrician never expect the "isolated" curcuits to be indeed Live at certain circumstances, after undergoing the Safe Isolation procedure. If we know its Live, we know how to handle & mitigate the risk of electric shock, arc flash or other hazards. Worst is when we tested the installation to be dead, then at certain juncture we come into an unexpected Live conductor etc. Its shocking & may be deadly.
A proper safe isolation procedure includes a meter test between each conductor, and earth/ground. Failure to test is trusting the work of others a bit too far.
One point on the bypassed meters ...... most meters are now electronic and have a RED sign when this is detected ...... Reverse Energy Detected! Working for a DNO I have probably come across these more than most. Sometimes you have to admire the workmanship put in to it. Dumb as, but 10/10 for effort! With the price of energy this is a growing problem!
@@totherarf Ok but technically no reverse energy will flow if input and output contacts are shunted. In order to reverse current you have to swap in and out terminals not only bypass. The anti-tampering system will have to work according to another principle for sure.
@@IZ8MWG I understand your point and have not recently taken one apart to see but I seem to remember it is the differential across a very low resistor not the contacts (if there are any)
@@IZ8MWG OK. It is an indication not an accurate description, so energy may not flow backwards across the meter. Sometimes there is though. Black Boxes used to be a thing where an autotransformer would raise the output side of the meter to higher potential than the incoming, thus energy would flow back! Most houses with those have burned down now so it is not a current issue ...... but when the meters (and the protocols) were being evolved it was and so we have a legacy that is not totally accurate all the time. If something works you do not fix it. Getting an easy way for a meter reader (I did say legacy) to know a meter had been tampered with was a good thing and I believe this is even included in the infra red used on some modern meters!
Oh i have one for this lady....found one today, neutral cut and henley blocked before the meter, sneaky..... easy for customer to disconnect the neutral to the meter (i think this was accidental, but easily missed), the live...err line, was after the meter so easily missed
@TheChipmunk2008 The meter have 4 contacts 1 LINE IN, 2 NEUTRAL IN, 3 NEUTRAL OUT (2 and 3 are shorted inside the meter) 4 LINE OUT. To disconnect neutral supply of the meter you have to cut 2. But you also have disconnected neutral to your home!
I would not consider the options pictured...But I'll say this; If I lived within practical cabling distance of an electrified railway line, I'd *definitely* be considering moving my energy supplier to Network Rail... ⚡🛤👍 (Railway traction current is variable as anything - +/-50% in many cases, depending on section demands - But I would still choose that and local rectification over all of the CONsumer suppliers out there... 💸)
@@jonathanshaw6784 It depends where you are - In the UK it's generally 750v/5KA DC (SR third rail a.k.a. DCCR), or the vastly superior French 25KV/200A AC overhead system. London Underground (Spit! 🚇🇬🇧♿⛔) employs 315V+ 0V 315V- DC fourth rail electrification, and other localised systems (Mostly trams) exist here and there with local specifications. ⚡ It should be noted railway traction current is about as stable as my own mental health, so voltages given are nominal but in practice will vary by as much as 100% or more in given circumstances. Large voltage drops as trains enter section and _huge_ voltage spikes as trains leave section are part and parcel of railway electrification, so if running a house off UK DCCR your first line of rectification south of the network isolator would probably be a big-ass diode and more capacitance than you'd find in transatlantic copper cables. 🔋
The problem isn’t so much with meter bypassing, but 40 years of piss poor energy system planning by successive governments. Basing our entire energy pricing system on a locally produced resource that is priced internationally is ridiculous, that’s without even talking about the fact that we produce less and less of that product every year as the reserves start to dry up. Not to mention the fact that Ofgem are a little too close to the energy companies. Energy pricing needs to become a bit more dynamic and not tied to gas. Maybe if people could afford the electricity, they wouldn’t be doing dangerous things.
I'm a heating technician. I've been wearing disposable gloves for years when doing electrical work, just in case. Don't sparkies wear them? I get my meter out at the start, and do line to earth and line to neutral, but still wear gloves in case someone turns something on while I'm working. Got 65v from a light switch the other day, by the way, with the switch off, but not the power off to the switch. Old lady wanted a wall light fitted, and I got suckered in again! I'm 65, and I have had 10 shocks in my career - all of them, bar one, my fault. So I started wearing gloves.
The meter bypass known up here in the northwest as the Liverpool loop it is jammed in the terminals 1 and 4 very common to find there are other methods but that is the most common as it can be quickly removed if the meter man turns up
I've always thought of digging up the concrete floor in the property and tapping in to the line and having a free socket. Obviously proper sketchy as you have no protection but I'm surprised it isn't a regular thing. I don't think it would ever be found.
As a qualified and registered electrician , I have happened across two meter bypasses , I confronted both owners directly and quote "I didn’t think you would notice " was the response from one !
Only an idiot works on a circuit without testing it's dead first. Trust no one. I work with sparks that say the circuit is dead on testing it's still live .
@@Elfin4 in a new build home, it is not a requirement to add an earth fly lead from the socket to the back box if the back box has at least 1 fixed lug. Which they all do. The back box is earthed via the faceplate screws
@@mx97jb Thanks for the reply. Dont understand how the screws would earth it though? or why there is an earthing terminal on the back box if not a requirement.
@@Elfin4 If you look at a socket outlet from the back, the CPC connection is part of a metal bar along the back of the socket and forms the eyelets which the socket screws tighten up against. So the socket screws actually pull the socket tight to the wall via an earth bar. This earths the socket screws and the back box all at the same time, keeping all exposed parts to the same potential.
One of the issues with harness based protection is that the HSE rejected the existence of suspension syncope trauma and as such, the risks of dangling in a harness unconscious are not assessed let alone addressed. Any time a person is using a harness and could become unconscious in suspension, a rescue plan should be made with an objective of limiting the suspension time to a MAXIMUM of 5 minutes. but ideally 2. The second you are unconscious in a harness, you begin to store up toxic waste products in your legs because you are no longer actively maintaining open veins with your muscles. If you have been using your legs (climbing stairs for example) then the rate of metabolic waste production will be increased compared to a rested person. When the body is brought to the ground, the pressure is released, and in a similar way to releasing a tourniquet, the toxic waste is flooded into the organs of the core causing a toxic shock. This can result in organ failures days after the event, and consequently can result in delayed fatality.
So the tale tale signs of meter tampering is burning and carbonisation missed seals ? Never mind the fact that these could be a result of poorly trained installers and or bad installed meters with loose connections. The other points in the list yeah I might have think what’s been going on, but the first three points no . So the crap meter installer fecks up but the homeowner carries the can . Wonderful.
Electrician of 40+ years 1. Test multimeter on live circuit 2. disconnect electrical supply 3. TEST FOR DEAD with already tested multimeter How can you get a shock if you follow what should be your standard test prior to commencing any installation/maintenance work? With the amount of DIY work today ... no electrician should assume that any cb/rcd will isolate the circuit he wants to work on...even if it makes theoretical sense e.g. only 1 light circuit present does not mean that you disconnect at the rcd and it's all safe to work on lighting without testing. Example - I have come across a house that was stealing electricity from his neighbour to run his a/c (apparently did it while his neighbour was on holidays), so no breaker in his house would have killed the supply to that circuit......beware of this practice in shared ceiling apartment blocks. I have always practised the habit of testing any circuit that I am about to work on by hitting the exposed conductors with the back of my finger (front of finger or hand will cause you to close your hand around the cable if it is actually live)....even though I have already tested the same circuit for dead with a proven working meter prior to working on the circuit....I will never stop doing this. Having said the above, I recall a day when I made 2 mistakes within 2-3 hours of each other......I decided that my head wasn't in the game that day so went home. Book theory will not save you....staying on your game will.
@@boys7508 as a former chartered electrical engineer responsible for the isolation and issue of electrical permits in power stations, isolation and testing was always taken very seriously.
If people have to resort to bypass their leccy meters as they cannot afford energy costs anymore, I think we cannot call ourselves a first world country. Nobody would risk their life in doing so if they can afford it. 40% electricity price rise for "sustainable energy" is not worth it....
@@SeanMoore2008 actually is, we are all subsidising wind turbines that brake on a daily bases, and also, have to have gas burning generators in case there is no wind. Search for you tube video "when the wind stops". At that point electricity companies and grid in UK had to impost power from Europe at £7000+ per MW instead usual £50 per MW.....who subsidised that, certainly not National Grid or power companies Also, check the cost of electricity production for wind turbine vs nuclear vs fossil fuel per MW
Renewable energy is cheaper (in theory) however due to marginal pricing it's the same effective price as gas. With the added detriment of curtailment payments. They should be ended immediately, if they cannot profit from the marginal pricing alone then they clearly have too much renewable energy In that location (or fit some damn storage)
I'm missing something, is not the Electrical Meter 'Just A "Trip Metre" too show how much Electricity has been used' similar to the mileage on your vehicle When it comes to Electrical Safety the Meter is Just A Counter. Upon Isolation & Signage 'Don't turn on Electrician Working' Also Informing your Client the Power will be off till I've Completed my task, You should be safe
it is worth knowing regardless of how you feel about energy companies illegal bypasses are dangerous if you are going to do it there is a safe way but i will not say
Lots of people are tapping into the cable in their garden and running a piece of cable (crucially old cable, not dated after they've bought the house) in a quiet corner of the house. ''how am I supposed to know where that socket is fed from? I'm not an electrician. I've lived here 10 years and never had an issue with the electrics''.
@@Orgakoyd that is not very easy to do most of this old supply cable is paper insulated lead you need specialist skills and knowledge to strip it and often it’s concentric in such a way that it may have to be isolated to be cut to make a joint on some types the safest way would simply be connecting the consumer unit directly into the suppliers cut out but obviously I’m not advocating for it
I've found that the safest way to get free electricity is to take a whole bag of 10Ah power banks and £4,- down to your local Starbucks. Buy a Venti filter coffee, and plug all of those power banks into every USB port and wall-wart available. Drink the coffee as slowly as you can, and load up some good content on your phone in the meantime. 🎞 Voila! „Free“ electricity for the price of two filter coffees...Which in total cost _less_ than doing the same thing on your own domestic supply! 😉
@@dieseldragon6756 it is still less than your coffees cost. Also they do have restrictions and reserve the right to tell you not to use the plugs even if it simply your appliance has not been tested would be enough of our reason or something like that.
@@UKsystems Aye, that's fair (And so is a one plug/port per customer rule, too) 👍 Mind you; What's the position if the customers device bears an in-date PAT cert? 🙃
I fell for this completely my own fault I asked my friend to knock the power off and he did, but he failed to see the extra earth cable that someone had used to rig the electric gutted I was as I only had me snips for a few days and after they had a nice chunk taken out of them :(
Two words. Safe isolation. I get the issue with tampering but if electricians carried out safe isolation each and every time then instances of shock from meter tampering would not happen. Ever. That's where the more concerning issue lies.
I don't understand. Whenever I have to work on a circuit after doing all isolation I test it with a meter. THEN I never touch anything. I use insulated tools. Just in case someone has reconnected power without my knowledge. Incidentally I often have to work on electric fences that have 6000 V and I use the same tools without ever getting a shock from them. Those wires are safe but they would hurt badly. Why would an electrician PRESUME the system is safe without testing it?
Here in the United States, as a residential electrician, I work on most 120v circuits live. 240v, or anything 3 phase I shut off. Most electricians I know are the same way
@@UKsystems In the US there is a "legal" loophole....if you are self-employed, i e. a "one man shop" there are no regulatory agency penalties for that individual. However, many commercial/industrial customers would be cited/fined if they allow live work by ANYONE, regardless of who it was. When I was running my own business, I never worked live to protect my clients and myself. Working on my own properties however, there were a few times I did work live.
@@mxslick50 it’s still is not good to do it because it kind of encourages complacency because you’re working live all the time. It’s another day it’s not. I am working live I need to be very careful.
I can't see any safe rescue procedure being available as part of an operatior course. For rope access folks even that is left to the level 3 who should by then have a good few years of varied rope rigging experience, being on ropes daily. How ever many thousand logged hours with a week long practical course and theory on rope rescue. Even automatic descent systems need training before use and they don't come fitted to platforms. Suspension trauma is another thing all together. Best not to fall out the basket as you wouldn't be climbing up your screamer. You also don't get paid more for working at height..it is a means of access to then just do your job.
Och ...Sir Have We Bypassed The Meter....???Nice To Ask Before Starting the Job ........Vo if that was me ..sir Hold This Cable .....For A Sec ...Zap ...How do you like it.. not nice is it ....🤣😂
Why do you think you’re being smart at editing by moving a printed image like that, especially when it’s concerning a safety issue? It’s frankly annoying and stupid. What would you think if someone grabbed your head whilst you’re reading and thrust your nose against the page and wiped it up and down? Same thing with a screen, so is it some sort of dominance kink for UA-cam or has nobody complained before?
The only safe isolation is to pull the main sealed fuses , when some one took micc cores thro a back entry on the IS. CO. BLOCKS .DIGGER DRIVER SAID THERE ARE SPARKS COMING OFF MY BUCKET ,went for a look jump in the hole and BANG THE MI CABLE , WENT OFF LIKE A ROMAN CANDLE ,covering my glass in molten copper , on a garage fore court , near STOKE , BACK IN THE 1970'S
The sparkies getting shocked as a result of tampering can't be doing proper dead testing.
I think the phrase is “Safe Isolation”. Cannot believe the complacency in our industry regarding this.
@@MS-Patriot2 yes, i learned this the hard way.
dead testing != testing for dead... it's why they changed it to safe isolation, easy to confuse the 2
It is easy to say this, but if you pull the main fuse/turn off the isolator, one can see a visual disconnect, and the temptation is to just ASSume, it's easy to judge, but sh*t happens. It's making our life more dangerous
I realised the potential consequences of unqualified work first hand the other day, when replacing a neighbours imploded light switch. For whatever reason I decided to remove the broken bits of face-plate _before_ isolating the circuit, with the inevitable result the rocker unexpectedly sprang out of the socket leaving a known live contact staring right at me. 😳
Yeah, ran right for the DB and threw the lighting circuit off at that before continuing the repair¹ and at least thought to test for zero voltage before carrying on. Still can't understand what in Thors name caused me to start _before_ isolating though, especially with my strong aversion to live working... 🤔
(¹ - Thankfully, a typical SPST switch replacement - And having _some_ confidence could not (In good conscience) leave the previous switch in such a dangerous condition when I had the tools and the means to do the job and at least make safe. Did the best I could, but neighbour's been advised to have the next visiting qualified electrician check it for safety and compliance all the same.)
Never forget a story a contractor told me years ago. When he started working he asked someone if a socket was dead to which they replied "yes." He cut the cable which then went bang. " I thought you said it was dead." He said. To which the other responded. " Rule number 1 always test first, no matter what anyone says...."
We have 5 step rule in safety in Latvia:
1. Turn off power to circuit
2. Block switches or disconnectors to prevent accidental energising. Put up informative signs on disconnectrs.
3. Test circuits for energy absence.
4. Short to ground circuits you will work ok.
5. Isolate area from unauthorised personal.
So, in a normal situation, electrican would have been stopped at step 3.
We also have live work regulations and certifications but we try to do as little live work as possible.
Short to ground is a good idea.
I attended a working platform course at RBAC... Years later I was installing a conduit in a wall, up scarily high and volunteered to remove an old section of flue pipe for the customer especially since it was in my way and would only take a few minutes. I underestimated its weight, slipped sideways and fell! My safety harness stopped me, no injuries but I was left dangling in space with no means of going up or down. Rang my wife and she rescued me using the ground controls. So now when up a platform I dangle a bit of thick rope to the ground so I can climb back up! They didn't teach me that on that course!
You are right to point out the danger of a bypassed isolator, obviously. A helpful reminder for anyone not yet aware is to always assume live until proven otherwise, initially by a radio or light remaining on, for example. This is especially the case since PV solar systems, etc can backfeed the circuit. A mains indicator lamp would seem a sensible feature on any consmer unit or domestic installation.
There are two points of failure here
1. People choosing to break the law
2. Horrific pricing and economical mismanagement from our government and energy providers .
There is no reason as to why energy now costs so much .record profits = record prices .
We should report to the gods if they are loosing money but we are not worthy to remove a fuse to save our lives. We should have our own seals with our own member number on so that we can check and report. All seals would then be traceable and engineers safe.
That fluke kit is going to be a game changer I have wanted a test kit do it all for years - I hope its not a disappointment
Working Live is not an issue with those alrdy in the knowing & capable of doing so; the issue is that any electrician never expect the "isolated" curcuits to be indeed Live at certain circumstances, after undergoing the Safe Isolation procedure.
If we know its Live, we know how to handle & mitigate the risk of electric shock, arc flash or other hazards.
Worst is when we tested the installation to be dead, then at certain juncture we come into an unexpected Live conductor etc.
Its shocking & may be deadly.
A proper safe isolation procedure includes a meter test between each conductor, and earth/ground. Failure to test is trusting the work of others a bit too far.
One point on the bypassed meters ...... most meters are now electronic and have a RED sign when this is detected ...... Reverse Energy Detected!
Working for a DNO I have probably come across these more than most. Sometimes you have to admire the workmanship put in to it. Dumb as, but 10/10 for effort!
With the price of energy this is a growing problem!
@@totherarf Why tampering would result in a reverse energy flow?
@@IZ8MWG ...... because the meters are made to detect that and display it?
@@totherarf Ok but technically no reverse energy will flow if input and output contacts are shunted. In order to reverse current you have to swap in and out terminals not only bypass. The anti-tampering system will have to work according to another principle for sure.
@@IZ8MWG I understand your point and have not recently taken one apart to see but I seem to remember it is the differential across a very low resistor not the contacts (if there are any)
@@IZ8MWG OK.
It is an indication not an accurate description, so energy may not flow backwards across the meter. Sometimes there is though. Black Boxes used to be a thing where an autotransformer would raise the output side of the meter to higher potential than the incoming, thus energy would flow back! Most houses with those have burned down now so it is not a current issue ...... but when the meters (and the protocols) were being evolved it was and so we have a legacy that is not totally accurate all the time.
If something works you do not fix it. Getting an easy way for a meter reader (I did say legacy) to know a meter had been tampered with was a good thing and I believe this is even included in the infra red used on some modern meters!
Oh i have one for this lady....found one today, neutral cut and henley blocked before the meter, sneaky..... easy for customer to disconnect the neutral to the meter (i think this was accidental, but easily missed), the live...err line, was after the meter so easily missed
will take a picture tomorrow morning before we rejig it and notify the dno to seal their blocks
@@TheChipmunk2008 if you cut neutral how you think to supply the power? You need line and neutral to close the circuit!
@@IZ8MWG the neutral is in a connector block before the meter so it wouldn't interrupt the circuit... That's what's dodgy
@TheChipmunk2008 The meter have 4 contacts 1 LINE IN, 2 NEUTRAL IN, 3 NEUTRAL OUT (2 and 3 are shorted inside the meter) 4 LINE OUT. To disconnect neutral supply of the meter you have to cut 2. But you also have disconnected neutral to your home!
@@IZ8MWG no as I've said there's a Henley block on the N Before the meter where there shouldn't be one
thanks for the pictures, I now know how to by pass my meter using a screw and shunt! genius boys.... PS love your site and the content
I would not consider the options pictured...But I'll say this; If I lived within practical cabling distance of an electrified railway line, I'd *definitely* be considering moving my energy supplier to Network Rail... ⚡🛤👍
(Railway traction current is variable as anything - +/-50% in many cases, depending on section demands - But I would still choose that and local rectification over all of the CONsumer suppliers out there... 💸)
@@dieseldragon6756what voltage do they use?
@@jonathanshaw6784 It depends where you are - In the UK it's generally 750v/5KA DC (SR third rail a.k.a. DCCR), or the vastly superior French 25KV/200A AC overhead system. London Underground (Spit! 🚇🇬🇧♿⛔) employs 315V+ 0V 315V- DC fourth rail electrification, and other localised systems (Mostly trams) exist here and there with local specifications. ⚡
It should be noted railway traction current is about as stable as my own mental health, so voltages given are nominal but in practice will vary by as much as 100% or more in given circumstances. Large voltage drops as trains enter section and _huge_ voltage spikes as trains leave section are part and parcel of railway electrification, so if running a house off UK DCCR your first line of rectification south of the network isolator would probably be a big-ass diode and more capacitance than you'd find in transatlantic copper cables. 🔋
Joe your other channel helped me enormously to get my 2365 L2
Is it an electricians' job to learn rescue at height techniques? After all, we do pay for a highly capable fire and rescue service.
That's why you test, test and test again 🤔
I have to say, that was my first thought too.
The problem isn’t so much with meter bypassing, but 40 years of piss poor energy system planning by successive governments. Basing our entire energy pricing system on a locally produced resource that is priced internationally is ridiculous, that’s without even talking about the fact that we produce less and less of that product every year as the reserves start to dry up. Not to mention the fact that Ofgem are a little too close to the energy companies.
Energy pricing needs to become a bit more dynamic and not tied to gas. Maybe if people could afford the electricity, they wouldn’t be doing dangerous things.
In 1982 when i started my apprenticeship , first thing I was taught was Isolate and check, with check been after isolation.
Energy theft is by the energy providers due to net zero bollox
I'm a heating technician. I've been wearing disposable gloves for years when doing electrical work, just in case. Don't sparkies wear them? I get my meter out at the start, and do line to earth and line to neutral, but still wear gloves in case someone turns something on while I'm working. Got 65v from a light switch the other day, by the way, with the switch off, but not the power off to the switch. Old lady wanted a wall light fitted, and I got suckered in again! I'm 65, and I have had 10 shocks in my career - all of them, bar one, my fault. So I started wearing gloves.
The meter bypass known up here in the northwest as the Liverpool loop it is jammed in the terminals 1 and 4 very common to find there are other methods but that is the most common as it can be quickly removed if the meter man turns up
I'd forgotten it was / is called that!!
Never seen one personally.....
Regards from Liverpool 👍
I think the codename for those down here is an M25... 🛣
(That is, after all, the _London_ Loop! 😋)
I've always thought of digging up the concrete floor in the property and tapping in to the line and having a free socket. Obviously proper sketchy as you have no protection but I'm surprised it isn't a regular thing. I don't think it would ever be found.
At least as sparkies we can jump our meters safely😂😂😂😂
As a qualified and registered electrician , I have happened across two meter bypasses , I confronted both owners directly and quote "I didn’t think you would notice " was the response from one !
Only an idiot works on a circuit without testing it's dead first. Trust no one. I work with sparks that say the circuit is dead on testing it's still live .
As a non-electrician, could I ask if it is a requirement of current electrical regulations for new build homes to earth metal back boxes on sockets.
@@Elfin4 in a new build home, it is not a requirement to add an earth fly lead from the socket to the back box if the back box has at least 1 fixed lug. Which they all do. The back box is earthed via the faceplate screws
Never has been
@@mx97jb Thanks for the reply. Dont understand how the screws would earth it though? or why there is an earthing terminal on the back box if not a requirement.
Yes
@@Elfin4 If you look at a socket outlet from the back, the CPC connection is part of a metal bar along the back of the socket and forms the eyelets which the socket screws tighten up against. So the socket screws actually pull the socket tight to the wall via an earth bar. This earths the socket screws and the back box all at the same time, keeping all exposed parts to the same potential.
One of the issues with harness based protection is that the HSE rejected the existence of suspension syncope trauma and as such, the risks of dangling in a harness unconscious are not assessed let alone addressed. Any time a person is using a harness and could become unconscious in suspension, a rescue plan should be made with an objective of limiting the suspension time to a MAXIMUM of 5 minutes. but ideally 2. The second you are unconscious in a harness, you begin to store up toxic waste products in your legs because you are no longer actively maintaining open veins with your muscles. If you have been using your legs (climbing stairs for example) then the rate of metabolic waste production will be increased compared to a rested person. When the body is brought to the ground, the pressure is released, and in a similar way to releasing a tourniquet, the toxic waste is flooded into the organs of the core causing a toxic shock. This can result in organ failures days after the event, and consequently can result in delayed fatality.
with prepaid surely if you bypass the inside unit the outside unit will detect tampering?
So the tale tale signs of meter tampering is burning and carbonisation missed seals ? Never mind the fact that these could be a result of poorly trained installers and or bad installed meters with loose connections. The other points in the list yeah I might have think what’s been going on, but the first three points no . So the crap meter installer fecks up but the homeowner carries the can . Wonderful.
Sounds like fluke are trying to catch up with the Megger X1
Electrician of 40+ years
1. Test multimeter on live circuit
2. disconnect electrical supply
3. TEST FOR DEAD with already tested multimeter
How can you get a shock if you follow what should be your standard test prior to commencing any installation/maintenance work?
With the amount of DIY work today ... no electrician should assume that any cb/rcd will isolate the circuit he wants to work on...even if it makes theoretical sense e.g. only 1 light circuit present does not mean that you disconnect at the rcd and it's all safe to work on lighting without testing.
Example - I have come across a house that was stealing electricity from his neighbour to run his a/c (apparently did it while his neighbour was on holidays), so no breaker in his house would have killed the supply to that circuit......beware of this practice in shared ceiling apartment blocks.
I have always practised the habit of testing any circuit that I am about to work on by hitting the exposed conductors with the back of my finger (front of finger or hand will cause you to close your hand around the cable if it is actually live)....even though I have already tested the same circuit for dead with a proven working meter prior to working on the circuit....I will never stop doing this.
Having said the above, I recall a day when I made 2 mistakes within 2-3 hours of each other......I decided that my head wasn't in the game that day so went home.
Book theory will not save you....staying on your game will.
Lot of electricians work on live circuits just assume everything is live until a volt meter tells otherwise.
the link to the podcast page is broken, shouldn't have the word weekly in the address
You can’t be tricked into working with live electrics they’ve clearly not done any dead tests when carrying out there work
@@boys7508 as a former chartered electrical engineer responsible for the isolation and issue of electrical permits in power stations, isolation and testing was always taken very seriously.
If people have to resort to bypass their leccy meters as they cannot afford energy costs anymore, I think we cannot call ourselves a first world country. Nobody would risk their life in doing so if they can afford it. 40% electricity price rise for "sustainable energy" is not worth it....
@@donnied8127 but sustainable energy isn't the reason why electricity is so expensive
@@SeanMoore2008 actually is, we are all subsidising wind turbines that brake on a daily bases, and also, have to have gas burning generators in case there is no wind. Search for you tube video "when the wind stops". At that point electricity companies and grid in UK had to impost power from Europe at £7000+ per MW instead usual £50 per MW.....who subsidised that, certainly not National Grid or power companies
Also, check the cost of electricity production for wind turbine vs nuclear vs fossil fuel per MW
Renewable energy has been cheaper than gas fired power stations for some time
Renewable energy is cheaper (in theory) however due to marginal pricing it's the same effective price as gas. With the added detriment of curtailment payments. They should be ended immediately, if they cannot profit from the marginal pricing alone then they clearly have too much renewable energy In that location (or fit some damn storage)
Could not find the links for training courses
One loose wire bricking a whole ship.
Now that sounds fun.
You need to use at least N. 12 wood screws to bypass a meter properly. Preferably coach screws.
I believe it was a WAGO that wasn't done up properly on that ship - but Efixx won't mention that because they probably sponsored by them!
This weeks words are Worcestershire and phenomenon
I'm missing something, is not the Electrical Meter 'Just A "Trip Metre" too show how much Electricity has been used' similar to the mileage on your vehicle When it comes to Electrical Safety the Meter is Just A Counter. Upon Isolation & Signage 'Don't turn on Electrician Working' Also Informing your Client the Power will be off till I've Completed my task, You should be safe
it is worth knowing regardless of how you feel about energy companies illegal bypasses are dangerous if you are going to do it there is a safe way but i will not say
Lots of people are tapping into the cable in their garden and running a piece of cable (crucially old cable, not dated after they've bought the house) in a quiet corner of the house. ''how am I supposed to know where that socket is fed from? I'm not an electrician. I've lived here 10 years and never had an issue with the electrics''.
@@Orgakoyd that is not very easy to do most of this old supply cable is paper insulated lead you need specialist skills and knowledge to strip it and often it’s concentric in such a way that it may have to be isolated to be cut to make a joint on some types the safest way would simply be connecting the consumer unit directly into the suppliers cut out but obviously I’m not advocating for it
I've found that the safest way to get free electricity is to take a whole bag of 10Ah power banks and £4,- down to your local Starbucks. Buy a Venti filter coffee, and plug all of those power banks into every USB port and wall-wart available. Drink the coffee as slowly as you can, and load up some good content on your phone in the meantime. 🎞
Voila! „Free“ electricity for the price of two filter coffees...Which in total cost _less_ than doing the same thing on your own domestic supply! 😉
@@dieseldragon6756 it is still less than your coffees cost. Also they do have restrictions and reserve the right to tell you not to use the plugs even if it simply your appliance has not been tested would be enough of our reason or something like that.
@@UKsystems Aye, that's fair (And so is a one plug/port per customer rule, too) 👍
Mind you; What's the position if the customers device bears an in-date PAT cert? 🙃
Health and Safety are the 2 words
I fell for this completely my own fault I asked my friend to knock the power off and he did, but he failed to see the extra earth cable that someone had used to rig the electric gutted I was as I only had me snips for a few days and after they had a nice chunk taken out of them :(
Two words. Safe isolation. I get the issue with tampering but if electricians carried out safe isolation each and every time then instances of shock from meter tampering would not happen. Ever. That's where the more concerning issue lies.
I don't understand. Whenever I have to work on a circuit after doing all isolation I test it with a meter. THEN I never touch anything. I use insulated tools. Just in case someone has reconnected power without my knowledge. Incidentally I often have to work on electric fences that have 6000 V and I use the same tools without ever getting a shock from them. Those wires are safe but they would hurt badly. Why would an electrician PRESUME the system is safe without testing it?
You turn it OFF at the Consumer Unit & Signage Up "Do Not Turn On Electrician Working"
Here in the United States, as a residential electrician, I work on most 120v circuits live. 240v, or anything 3 phase I shut off. Most electricians I know are the same way
that is not allowed though
Why would you work on any circuit live? It makes your job more difficult and is dangerous to boot.
@@UKsystems In the US there is a "legal" loophole....if you are self-employed, i e. a "one man shop" there are no regulatory agency penalties for that individual.
However, many commercial/industrial customers would be cited/fined if they allow live work by ANYONE, regardless of who it was.
When I was running my own business, I never worked live to protect my clients and myself. Working on my own properties however, there were a few times I did work live.
@@mxslick50 it’s still is not good to do it because it kind of encourages complacency because you’re working live all the time. It’s another day it’s not. I am working live I need to be very careful.
@@cobalt49 in the United States is almost like a bragging right when they do it for some reason
The meter and the DP board is always live until it’s Isolated by the electrician.
It is 100% safe to work by live wires. It disipline the electricians to respect the electicity
I've watched electricians working on live cables from a chopper was it 1000's of volts on power lines between pylons.
Clear, present is my guess for your 2 words😊
I can't see any safe rescue procedure being available as part of an operatior course.
For rope access folks even that is left to the level 3 who should by then have a good few years of varied rope rigging experience, being on ropes daily. How ever many thousand logged hours with a week long practical course and theory on rope rescue.
Even automatic descent systems need training before use and they don't come fitted to platforms.
Suspension trauma is another thing all together. Best not to fall out the basket as you wouldn't be climbing up your screamer.
You also don't get paid more for working at height..it is a means of access to then just do your job.
if they're gonna bypass the meter they might as well figure out a way to sell stolen electricity back to the grid 😆
Oh mesh autodimmers...
Just wait couple of years once they find out how to hack them and create havoc.
Great idea.
Missing security seals on the meters, aren’t they all missing them? 😉😂
Oh golly...Mine must be the only still-sealed meter in Britain! 😳
The seals on my meter are very old as is the analog meter.
Custard, and Worcestershire sauce? I seem to have heard custard lmao
Are the words Worcestershire and Campari?
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Great news as always, the words are Worcester Sauce & Phenomen
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Worcestershire Sauce has to be this week's word
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i'll happily go to jail for 18 months for 56k . where can i apply for that.
Och ...Sir Have We Bypassed The Meter....???Nice To Ask Before Starting the Job ........Vo if that was me ..sir Hold This Cable .....For A Sec ...Zap ...How do you like it.. not nice is it ....🤣😂
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Probably their sauces. They're *impossibly* popular... 🍶💯😁
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if you want a few million hits just show how to bybass the meter safety 🤣
Why do you think you’re being smart at editing by moving a printed image like that, especially when it’s concerning a safety issue? It’s frankly annoying and stupid.
What would you think if someone grabbed your head whilst you’re reading and thrust your nose against the page and wiped it up and down?
Same thing with a screen, so is it some sort of dominance kink for UA-cam or has nobody complained before?
Got to be Worcestershire sauce and phenomenon for this week
Nobody know how to use a contactor 😂😂😂 if your gunna do it do it right !
Joe, change the spiel..... or 'watching at home, as you do, you sad git'
😂No judgement here, just happy people are watching.
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9:20 'Simplistic' doesn't mean what you appear to think it does.
Fluke now a pile of junk
The only safe isolation is to pull the main sealed fuses , when some one took micc cores thro a back entry on the IS. CO. BLOCKS .DIGGER DRIVER SAID THERE ARE SPARKS COMING OFF MY BUCKET ,went for a look jump in the hole and BANG THE MI CABLE , WENT OFF LIKE A ROMAN CANDLE ,covering my glass in molten copper , on a garage fore court , near STOKE , BACK IN THE 1970'S
Worcestershire and LLCoolJ. One of these days I’ll get it right! 😂
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